On 16.12.2012, Reindl Harald wrote:
> /etc/rkhunter.conf.local is your friend
> you can not expect any intrusion detection working out of
> the box for your environment without take care to eliminate
> false positives while not step over real intrusions
Here you take for granted that I'm runni
On 12/16/2012 07:12 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
OMG!...incredible!
Why? Granted, it was back in 1968, but the computer I was working on
(IBM 1620, MOD 2) was already outdated, and nearly obsolete.
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On 12/16/2012 08:29 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/16/2012 05:15 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
Age is irrelevant when quantifying competence or skill nor should it be
(you'd feel peeved I should imagine if somebody referred to you
similarly because you first installed Linux from a floppy).
I'm not saying
On 12/16/2012 07:42 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/16/2012 04:25 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
So thenthere's not enough REWARD for anyone to even ATTEMPT
something such as this?.well I for one am glad! Makes it a little
easier to sleep at night! LoL!
There's not enough reward for most p
On 12/16/2012 06:55 PM, Tim wrote:
Tim:
You don't think some malcontent might try to set up a bogus repo, or
damage another one, just because they're an ass?
Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. sent:
I can only hope that because of the integrity of most of the people
who use / support Open Sourcethat
On 12/16/2012 06:49 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2012, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. sent:
The days of people just blindly clicking on a link.or
downloading a fileor running an app just because it comes from a
"trusted" vendor...are over!
Surely you're not serious? Do you
On 12/16/2012 06:35 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2012, François Patte sent:
And, because there exist dumb programmers, everybody must change his
mail reader, until a new stupidity comes in mind of the developpers of
the new mail reader you have chosen...
Unfortunately, that
i've just purchased a Acer Aspire V3-551-8469 NX.RZAAA.008 Notebook and
had some concerns i'd like some feedback on. First of all its my
understanding that this whole uefi situation will be resolved with
fedora 18 is this accurate? also what is the best way to ensure that all
of the hardware wi
On 12/16/2012 05:15 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
Age is irrelevant when quantifying competence or skill nor should it be
(you'd feel peeved I should imagine if somebody referred to you
similarly because you first installed Linux from a floppy).
I'm not saying that he's wrong or not competent and, in
On 12/16/2012 10:34 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/16/2012 02:10 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> http://ohjeezlinux.wordpress.com/2012/11/13/fedup-a-little-background/
>> (this link is referenced on the Fedup Wiki page).
>
> Thanx. Alas, the first paragraph contains a gross error that tells me
>
Am 17.12.2012 02:04, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.:
> I'm not sure if there's a SIMPLE problembut I remember using preUpgrade
> to go from F16 to F17 and there seemed
> to be an issue with it after the upgrade was complete. I would try to login
> after restarting and I got an error
> messag
On 12/16/2012 04:59 PM, Fedora User wrote:
What problem in preupgrade does it seek to solve and how does it solve
it?
I have read the documentation and that question doesn't seem to be
answered.
I'm not sure if there's a SIMPLE problembut I remember using
preUpgrade to go from F16 to F17 a
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 02:34:19PM -0800, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/16/2012 02:10 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >http://ohjeezlinux.wordpress.com/2012/11/13/fedup-a-little-background/
> >(this link is referenced on the Fedup Wiki page).
> Thanx. Alas, the first paragraph contains a gross error th
On 12/16/2012 04:25 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
So thenthere's not enough REWARD for anyone to even ATTEMPT
something such as this?.well I for one am glad! Makes it a little
easier to sleep at night! LoL!
There's not enough reward for most people, no. That's not to say that
it ca
On 12/16/2012 03:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/16/2012 09:12 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
the first and largest mistake in context security you can make
is to think you are secure but not have the knowledge to make
sure it is so - goodwill and hope is no base for security
OK, what do you, personall
On 12/16/2012 03:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/16/2012 09:02 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
They have to get people to use such a repo, which is going to be hard.
One could get away with it perhaps for a little while by showing
different data to users and to the mirror checker. And only a small
fract
On 12/16/2012 12:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 16.12.2012 18:02, schrieb Bruno Wolff III:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 19:17:50 +1030,
Tim wrote:
On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 11:18 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
Unless you think you have a chance of being singled out by a goverment
or if you don't tr
Tim:
>> You don't think some malcontent might try to set up a bogus repo, or
>> damage another one, just because they're an ass?
Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. sent:
> I can only hope that because of the integrity of most of the people
> who use / support Open Sourcethat the people who WOULD do that a
Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2012, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. sent:
> The days of people just blindly clicking on a link.or
> downloading a fileor running an app just because it comes from a
> "trusted" vendor...are over!
Surely you're not serious? Do you really think people bother to
Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2012, Frédéric Bron sent:
> 2. with xsane, I have access to the following resolutions only: 75,
> 150 300, 600, 1200, 2400, with scanimage: 75, 300, 1200, 2400.
> Why is it not the same list?
> How can I have access to more values as with the Windows tool where I
Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2012, François Patte sent:
> And, because there exist dumb programmers, everybody must change his
> mail reader, until a new stupidity comes in mind of the developpers of
> the new mail reader you have chosen...
Unfortunately, that has always been the way. Softw
On 12/16/2012 10:04 AM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
On 12/16/2012 08:47 AM, Tim wrote:
On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 11:18 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
Unless you think you have a chance of being singled out by a goverment
or if you don't trust some of the people/machines on your local
network, this isn't a s
Am 16.12.2012 23:28, schrieb Joe Zeff:
> On 12/16/2012 02:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> 98% of all attacks and spam out there are from machines where
>> the owner said "oh i do not need more security and do not care"
>>
>> 90 % of this are home-machines beeing part of a botnet and the
>> rest vs
On 12/16/2012 02:10 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
http://ohjeezlinux.wordpress.com/2012/11/13/fedup-a-little-background/
(this link is referenced on the Fedup Wiki page).
Thanx. Alas, the first paragraph contains a gross error that tells me
just how young the author is: in the beginning, you
On 12/16/2012 02:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
98% of all attacks and spam out there are from machines where
the owner said "oh i do not need more security and do not care"
90 % of this are home-machines beeing part of a botnet and the
rest vservers of users missing any admin skill but think to
ne
On 12/16/2012 03:47 AM, Tim wrote:
On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 11:18 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
Unless you think you have a chance of being singled out by a goverment
or if you don't trust some of the people/machines on your local
network, this isn't a significant risk.
You don't think some malcon
On Sun, 2012-12-16 at 16:59 -0500, Fedora User wrote:
> What problem in preupgrade does it seek to solve and how does it solve
> it?
>
> I have read the documentation and that question doesn't seem to be
> answered.
>
http://ohjeezlinux.wordpress.com/2012/11/13/fedup-a-little-background/
(this l
Am 16.12.2012 22:53, schrieb Joe Zeff:
> On 12/16/2012 12:11 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> * trying to understand everything on my systems
>>that is why i hate useless changes in fedora
>>they often force to relearn things without benefit
>> * not confirm dialogs blindly
>> * not enter my r
Am 16.12.2012 22:37, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
> On 16.12.2012, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>> * use chkrootkit and rkhunter on any machine
>
> If you really know your installation you could consider aide.
> Chkrootkit and rkhunter have produced a lot of false alarms on my
> machine...
>
> http://aide.
What problem in preupgrade does it seek to solve and how does it solve
it?
I have read the documentation and that question doesn't seem to be
answered.
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On 12/16/2012 12:11 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
* trying to understand everything on my systems
that is why i hate useless changes in fedora
they often force to relearn things without benefit
* not confirm dialogs blindly
* not enter my root-password where it is no expected to be needed
* not
On 16.12.2012, Reindl Harald wrote:
> * use chkrootkit and rkhunter on any machine
If you really know your installation you could consider aide.
Chkrootkit and rkhunter have produced a lot of false alarms on my
machine...
http://aide.sourceforge.net/
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Am 16.12.2012 21:07, schrieb Joe Zeff:
> On 12/16/2012 09:12 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> the first and largest mistake in context security you can make
>> is to think you are secure but not have the knowledge to make
>> sure it is so - goodwill and hope is no base for security
>
> OK, what do yo
Am 16.12.2012 20:32, schrieb Kevin Wilson:
> Ok, I was afraid that somehow my binaries will be replaced
> by the --rebuild. Now I know that without installing the rpm
> nothing will occur to them, so it is safe and solves my problem.
and that is why i explained you NOT to build packages
as root
On 12/16/2012 09:12 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
the first and largest mistake in context security you can make
is to think you are secure but not have the knowledge to make
sure it is so - goodwill and hope is no base for security
OK, what do you, personally, do to protect your LAN from this type
On 12/16/2012 09:02 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
They have to get people to use such a repo, which is going to be hard.
One could get away with it perhaps for a little while by showing
different data to users and to the mirror checker. And only a small
fraction of people are going to end up using s
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:38:54 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> for sure, try to understand how rpmbuild works
>
> * unpack the sources
> * run configure
> * make install in the buildroot
> * pack the RPM is all files are existing and listed in the %files section
>
> and that is why running as root m
Thanks.
What do you mean by repeatable environment.?
KW
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> repeatable environment.
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On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 09:32:45PM +0200, Kevin Wilson wrote:
> Thanks a lot for this info!
> Ok, I was afraid that somehow my binaries will be replaced
> by the --rebuild. Now I know that without installing the rpm
> nothing will occur to them, so it is safe and solves my problem.
Correct. Altho
Hi
Thanks a lot for this info!
Ok, I was afraid that somehow my binaries will be replaced
by the --rebuild. Now I know that without installing the rpm
nothing will occur to them, so it is safe and solves my problem.
rgs
Kevin
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 1
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 09:24:21PM +0200, Kevin Wilson wrote:
> Last one, really:
> suppose I want to build a source rpm. I do not
> want to run make install as I do want to keep my orig binaries.
> So what should I do ?
> this is in fact the reason that I tried
> rpmbuild -bp specFile
> and the mo
Thanks!
Last one, really:
suppose I want to build a source rpm. I do not
want to run make install as I do want to keep my orig binaries.
So what should I do ?
this is in fact the reason that I tried
rpmbuild -bp specFile
and the moving to BUILD/ppp-2.4.5 and ./configure && make from there.
But with
Am 16.12.2012 19:33, schrieb Kevin Wilson:
> Thanks for the advice. I am well aware of it.
so why ignore it?
> This machine is a testing machine with very
> little which is important and it is backed up
does not matter
there is no clean buildroot guaranteed if running as root
> Forgive me m
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:06:35 +0200, Kevin Wilson wrote:
> I don't know the difference between
> "rpmbuild -bb ppp.spec" or at least
> and "rpmbuild -bc ppp.spec".
"man rpmbuild" explains these two build options.
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Hi,
Thanks for the advice. I am well aware of it. This machine is a
testing machine with very
little which is important and it is backed up and I intend to isntall
there f18 in a month anyway.
Forgive me my ignorance: quick question: does
rpmbuild --rebuild
includes running "make install"? I did no
Am 16.12.2012 19:06, schrieb Kevin Wilson:
> Hello,
> rpmbuild --rebuild ppp-2.4.5-22.fc17.src.rpm WORKED for me;
> the executables were generated under /root/rpmbuild/BUILD/ppp-2.4.5
do NOT build packages as root!
any error in the source or SPEC may overwrite files on
your running system - the
Hello,
rpmbuild --rebuild ppp-2.4.5-22.fc17.src.rpm WORKED for me;
the executables were generated under /root/rpmbuild/BUILD/ppp-2.4.5
I don't know the difference between
"rpmbuild -bb ppp.spec" or at least
and "rpmbuild -bc ppp.spec".
rgs
Kevin
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Michael Schwendt
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 18:12:13 +0100,
Reindl Harald wrote:
nothing easier as to point you to another repo with /etc/hosts
if something goes wrong on your machine - it is enough if you
are ONE TIME ente your root-password in the wrong dialog and
after pointing you to a modified repo you get
Am 16.12.2012 18:02, schrieb Bruno Wolff III:
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 19:17:50 +1030,
> Tim wrote:
>> On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 11:18 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>>> Unless you think you have a chance of being singled out by a goverment
>>> or if you don't trust some of the people/machines on
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 19:17:50 +1030,
Tim wrote:
On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 11:18 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
Unless you think you have a chance of being singled out by a goverment
or if you don't trust some of the people/machines on your local
network, this isn't a significant risk.
You don
Just did a disk image using dd and compression, and noted that it
popped up with a few soft i/o errors. Later ran fsck on the
partitions, and got no errors. What would be the best tool to repair
these soft errors, or does this mean to replace the disk. I've seen
no other issues with the disk, a
On 12/16/2012 10:08 AM, yotestalker wrote:
On 12/16/2012 09:53 AM, Martin Airs wrote:
On Sunday 16 Dec 2012 09:17:55 yotestalker wrote:
Hi,
Would that be 00-nvidia.conf by any chance? It contained the correct
lines minus the font line, which I added to no avail.
xorg.conf itself only contain
On 12/16/2012 09:53 AM, Martin Airs wrote:
On Sunday 16 Dec 2012 09:17:55 yotestalker wrote:
Hi,
Would that be 00-nvidia.conf by any chance? It contained the correct
lines minus the font line, which I added to no avail.
xorg.conf itself only contains these lines:
# RPM Fusion - nvidia-xorg.c
On 12/16/2012 08:47 AM, Tim wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 11:18 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>> Unless you think you have a chance of being singled out by a goverment
>> or if you don't trust some of the people/machines on your local
>> network, this isn't a significant risk.
>
> You don't thin
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:27:15 +0100, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 16.12.2012, Kevin Wilson wrote:
>
> > But wasn't the process of installing the src rpm as I did
> > was supposed to look for it? isn't the src.rpm is the origin when
> > preparing rpm in the Fedora project release process ?
>
> Yes, I
On Sunday 16 Dec 2012 14:55:15 Martin Airs wrote:
>
> also you can see in your log that
>
> [ 434.009] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules"
>
> which is not what is in the 00-nvidia.conf
>
> Martin
my xorg log says.
ModulePath set to "/usr/lib64/nvidia/xorg,/usr/lib64/xo
On Sunday 16 Dec 2012 14:53:15 Martin Airs wrote:
> On Sunday 16 Dec 2012 09:17:55 yotestalker wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Would that be 00-nvidia.conf by any chance? It contained the correct
> > lines minus the font line, which I added to no avail.
> >
> > xorg.conf itself only contains these lines:
On Sunday 16 Dec 2012 09:17:55 yotestalker wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Would that be 00-nvidia.conf by any chance? It contained the correct
> lines minus the font line, which I added to no avail.
>
> xorg.conf itself only contains these lines:
>
> # RPM Fusion - nvidia-xorg.conf
> #
> Section "Device"
>
On 12/15/2012 10:17 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
I d/loaded a 12.10 ubuntu CD and it installed with the full
19:6 resolution on my dell 3010. so =somebody has hacked the
driver code for my graphics card. ubuntu is causing me some
grief--things I had forgotten since I
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:13:35AM +0200, Kevin Wilson wrote:
> Hello,
> I did the following on x86_64 fedora machine:
> - downloaded ppp-2.4.5-22.fc17.src.rpm
> ran: rpm -ivh ppp-2.4.5-22.fc17.src.rpm
> then
> rpmbuild -bp --target=x86_64 /root/rpmbuild/SPECS/ppp.spec
It's possible there's someth
On 16.12.2012, Kevin Wilson wrote:
> But wasn't the process of installing the src rpm as I did
> was supposed to look for it? isn't the src.rpm is the origin when
> preparing rpm in the Fedora project release process ?
Yes, I see your point, and I'm thinking the same.
This raises the question ho
On 12/16/2012 03:14 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 23:37:57 -0500 yotestalker
wrote:
Recently, whenever I launched a video with totem, my screen would go
black and I'd end up back at the FC17 login screen. I was using the
akmod-nvidia and kmod-nvidia drivers. I switched over to
On 12/16/2012 08:24 AM, Martin Airs wrote:
On Saturday 15 Dec 2012 23:37:57 yotestalker wrote:
Hi,
Recently, whenever I launched a video with totem, my screen would go
black and I'd end up back at the FC17 login screen. I was using the
akmod-nvidia and kmod-nvidia drivers. I switched over to VL
Hi,
Thanks, I thought so.
But wasn't the process of installing the src rpm as I did
was supposed to look for it? isn't the src.rpm is the origin when
preparing rpm in the Fedora project release process ?
Let met rephrase my question: When I take any src.rpm,
can't I rely on preparing an rpm out of
On Sunday 16 Dec 2012 13:24:49 Martin Airs wrote:
> On Saturday 15 Dec 2012 23:37:57 yotestalker wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Recently, whenever I launched a video with totem, my screen would go
> > black and I'd end up back at the FC17 login screen. I was using the
> > akmod-nvidia and kmod-nvidia driv
Am 16.12.2012 11:31, schrieb François Patte:
> And, because there exist dumb programmers, everybody must change his mail
> reader, until a new stupidity comes in mind of the developpers of the
> new mail reader you have chosen...
+1
> I moved from gnome to xfce because of gnome3, I'll move from
On Saturday 15 Dec 2012 23:37:57 yotestalker wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Recently, whenever I launched a video with totem, my screen would go
> black and I'd end up back at the FC17 login screen. I was using the
> akmod-nvidia and kmod-nvidia drivers. I switched over to VLC as my
> default video player and t
On 16.12.2012, Kevin Wilson wrote:
> make[1]: Entering directory `/root/rpmbuild/BUILD/ppp-2.4.5/chat'
> cc -c -DTERMIOS -DSIGTYPE=void
> -UNO_SLEEP
> -DFNDELAY=O_NDELAY -o chat.o chat.c
> cc -pie -o chat chat.o
> /bin/ld:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Le 14/12/2012 10:40, Maurizio Marini a écrit :
>> I installed f-17 and wanted to set my mail with
>> thunderbird.
> if u don't need extra search, i suggest u claws After evolution and
> kmail for years, i have solved all my trouble, at last, wi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Le 14/12/2012 08:57, Ed Greshko a écrit :
> On 12/14/2012 03:35 PM, François Patte wrote:
>> Le 14/12/2012 01:39, Steven Stern a écrit :
>>> On 12/13/2012 01:37 AM, François Patte wrote:
Bonjour,
I installed f-17 and wanted to set my mai
Hello,
I did the following on x86_64 fedora machine:
- downloaded ppp-2.4.5-22.fc17.src.rpm
ran: rpm -ivh ppp-2.4.5-22.fc17.src.rpm
then
rpmbuild -bp --target=x86_64 /root/rpmbuild/SPECS/ppp.spec
then
cd /root/rpmbuild/BUILD/ppp-2.4.5
./configure
make
got this error:
d chat; make all
make[1]: En
On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 11:18 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> Unless you think you have a chance of being singled out by a goverment
> or if you don't trust some of the people/machines on your local
> network, this isn't a significant risk.
You don't think some malcontent might try to set up a bogus
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 23:37:57 -0500 yotestalker
wrote:
> Recently, whenever I launched a video with totem, my screen would go
> black and I'd end up back at the FC17 login screen. I was using the
> akmod-nvidia and kmod-nvidia drivers. I switched over to VLC as my
> default video player and the
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