Re: focus stuck to one window

2012-11-05 Thread Javier Perez
init 4 is not working (systemd?) I am killing X and it works, but it should not be happening in the first place! On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Ranjan Maitra writes: > > On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 19:24:56 -0500 Sam Varshavchik >> wrote: >> >> > Joe Zeff writes: >> > >> > > On

Re: how do I get squid 2.7 to run?

2012-11-05 Thread Alchemist
Yes of course :) SELINUX saved my life couple of times, with allow_execheap=off and allow_execstack=off 2012/11/6 lee > Hi, > > selinux prevents squid 2.7 from running. What do I need to do to get it > to work? This selinux is really a PITA ... does it do any good at all? > -- > users mailing

how do I get squid 2.7 to run?

2012-11-05 Thread lee
Hi, selinux prevents squid 2.7 from running. What do I need to do to get it to work? This selinux is really a PITA ... does it do any good at all? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/

Clive being blocked by youtube???

2012-11-05 Thread JD
I have been getting this error for every youtube URL I pass to clive: $ clive -f best 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SEULZIHru0' Checking ...error: server response code 403 (conncode=0) $ clive -f best 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAD6Obi7Cag' Checking ...error: server response code 403 (con

Re: rights messed up after moving installation

2012-11-05 Thread lee
lee writes: > Daniel J Walsh writes: > >> On 11/05/2012 05:07 PM, lee wrote: >>> Steven Stern writes: >>> From the man page: -a, --archive archive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X) So, you need to use "--archive -X" to transfer selinux context info as

Re: emails, selinux and Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread lee
lee writes: > Daniel J Walsh writes: > >> On 11/05/2012 04:59 PM, lee wrote: >>> Daniel J Walsh writes: >>> On 11/05/2012 04:35 AM, lee wrote: > Hi, > > it seems that selinux gets in the way of my self-compiled emacs when > gnus is trying to get mails from /var/spool/mail

Re: rights messed up after moving installation

2012-11-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.11.2012 23:19, schrieb lee: > The context is that I moved the root file system and /var from one disk > to another with insufficient options to rsync. BTW: usually rsync deals really fine with doing a second run with other options like "--times --perms --owner --group..." if you did not th

Re: rights messed up after moving installation

2012-11-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.11.2012 23:19, schrieb lee: > Daniel J Walsh writes: > >> On 11/05/2012 05:07 PM, lee wrote: >>> Steven Stern writes: >>> From the man page: -a, --archive archive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X) So, you need to use "--archive -X" to transfer sel

Re: emails, selinux and Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread lee
Daniel J Walsh writes: > On 11/05/2012 04:59 PM, lee wrote: >> Daniel J Walsh writes: >> >>> On 11/05/2012 04:35 AM, lee wrote: Hi, it seems that selinux gets in the way of my self-compiled emacs when gnus is trying to get mails from /var/spool/mail/lee. Movemail isn't >>>

Re: rights messed up after moving installation

2012-11-05 Thread lee
Daniel J Walsh writes: > On 11/05/2012 05:07 PM, lee wrote: >> Steven Stern writes: >> >>> From the man page: >>> >>> -a, --archive archive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X) >>> >>> So, you need to use "--archive -X" to transfer selinux context info as >>> well as the other a

Re: rights messed up after moving installation

2012-11-05 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/05/2012 05:07 PM, lee wrote: > Steven Stern writes: > >> From the man page: >> >> -a, --archive archive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X) >> >> So, you need to use "--archive -X" to transfer selinux context info as >> well as

Re: emails, selinux and Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/05/2012 04:59 PM, lee wrote: > Daniel J Walsh writes: > >> On 11/05/2012 04:35 AM, lee wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> it seems that selinux gets in the way of my self-compiled emacs when >>> gnus is trying to get mails from /var/spool/mail/lee. Movem

Re: rights messed up after moving installation

2012-11-05 Thread lee
Steven Stern writes: > From the man page: > > -a, --archive archive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X) > > So, you need to use "--archive -X" to transfer selinux context info as > well as the other attributes. Ugh ... darn ... What do I do now? Files on /var have been modified in

Re: emails, selinux and Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread lee
Daniel J Walsh writes: > On 11/05/2012 04:35 AM, lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> it seems that selinux gets in the way of my self-compiled emacs when gnus >> is trying to get mails from /var/spool/mail/lee. Movemail isn't permitted >> to get the mail from there. I have tried to adjust the file permiss

Re: rights messed up after moving installation

2012-11-05 Thread Steven Stern
On 11/05/2012 03:46 PM, lee wrote: > Hi, > > I have experienced some trouble with moving my Fedora installation to > different partitions. For the move, I prepared the target partitions, > created file systems on them and booted the emergency.target. Then I > used "rsync --archive -H --progress

Re: disabling graphical boot and shutdown in Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 05.11.2012 10:40, schrieb lee: >> Hi, >> >> how do I turn off all the graphical booting and shutting down? >> >> What I want is *not* to start any X session when I boot or shutodwn. >> When booting, I want to end up at the console, and I want to use startx >> to start

rights messed up after moving installation

2012-11-05 Thread lee
Hi, I have experienced some trouble with moving my Fedora installation to different partitions. For the move, I prepared the target partitions, created file systems on them and booted the emergency.target. Then I used "rsync --archive -H --progress -x " to copy /var and /. I thought using the

Re: disabling graphical boot and shutdown in Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread lee
Kevin Martin writes: > I'm thinking it's dumb that one can *switch* to a runlevel using > systemctl but can't *set the default runlevel* using systemctl > enable/disable. I was wondering when I changed the default.target by removing the old link and creating a new one if that is really the way w

Re: Fedora 18, future isn't too good as it seems :-

2012-11-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.11.2012 21:38, schrieb Bill Davidsen: > If it were a new version of something else, wouldn't it just be pushed off to > the next release? Other things have > been put off, sometimes amid great outcry from those wanting the latest. Why > is anaconda being forced in now, when > it will undo

Re: Fedora 18, future isn't too good as it seems :-

2012-11-05 Thread Bill Davidsen
Frank Murphy wrote: On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:45:21 +0100 Timothy Murphy wrote: Ian Malone wrote: And the move to F18 does mean a big functional change in the installer, which is what the issue is. Is there something wrong with the current Anaconda? In relation to Fedora 17, no. But dracut

Re: new NetworkManager dependencies?

2012-11-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.11.2012 21:29, schrieb Tom Horsley: > On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:51:33 -0800 > Gordon Messmer wrote: > >> Which dependency is "this?" > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862835 > > The one described in that bugzilla. Before this "fix" I had > no dependency problems uninstalling NM

Re: Fedora 18, future isn't too good as it seems :-

2012-11-05 Thread Bill Davidsen
Ian Malone wrote: On 1 November 2012 16:31, wrote: Personally, I think the problem is the obsession with regular upgrades to new versions on a rigid schedule whether an upgrade is warranted or not, not the fact that they're failing in that obsession. If I have Fedora 17 installed and things

Re: Fedora 18, future isn't too good as it seems :-

2012-11-05 Thread Bill Davidsen
Ian Malone wrote: On 1 November 2012 03:55, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: Hello, I'm seeing that Fedora 18 has been delayed 5 times already, and this post from Michael isn't looking too good either: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIxODk Distro like Ubuntu and Suse almost never

Re: new NetworkManager dependencies?

2012-11-05 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:51:33 -0800 Gordon Messmer wrote: > Which dependency is "this?" https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862835 The one described in that bugzilla. Before this "fix" I had no dependency problems uninstalling NM. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To un

Re: What are the limitations of preupgrade

2012-11-05 Thread Bill Davidsen
Gordon Messmer wrote: On 11/03/2012 10:07 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: The bottom line appears to be 13->15->17, at most two versions at a time. I don't know of any reason you can't go from 13->16. Going directly to 17 is only problematic because of the /usr merge, since anaconda needs to handle

Re: new NetworkManager dependencies?

2012-11-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/05/2012 11:27 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: This dependency wasn't added by rpmbuild noticing that a library was used, this dependency was force fed to the package to make it depend on NM despite the fact that there is no hard wired dependency. I was able to uninstall NM until these artificial dep

Re: new NetworkManager dependencies?

2012-11-05 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 10:47:28 -0800 Gordon Messmer wrote: > I don't think you understand how the dynamic linker works, or why rpm > tracks dependencies. This dependency wasn't added by rpmbuild noticing that a library was used, this dependency was force fed to the package to make it depend on NM

Re: New 64-bit Fedora Will Not Mount Similar 32-bit Filesystem

2012-11-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
Given the output you've shared of pvs and other LVM tools, it sort of looks like your older drive's LVM is in some way broken. If I were you, I'd start by rebooting the system with the old drive disconnected. This should help ensure that nothing is in an odd state due to running more or less

Re: new NetworkManager dependencies?

2012-11-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/05/2012 10:15 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: Also if there are any real dependencies on NM, they are gonna fail anyway, because NM isn't running anything on my system and anyone expecting it to be able to do things to the network is already broken. I don't think you understand how the dynamic lin

Re: new NetworkManager dependencies?

2012-11-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/05/2012 10:21 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: I run with NM disabled on systems where I am not using wireless and it seems to work fine. So do I. I have to because if I have NM active on this box it re-writes resolv.conf at boot, leaving out my DNS. It's either disable NM or re-enter the

Re: new NetworkManager dependencies?

2012-11-05 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 13:15:53 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 09:56:42 -0800 Gordon Messmer wrote: It's less work to simply disable NetworkManager, and less likely to cause a dependent package to fail. Not when "disable" is apparently only a mild suggestion that has no act

Re: disabling graphical boot and shutdown in Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread Sergio
On 11/05/2012 02:30 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote: On 11/05/2012 07:00 AM, sergio wrote: > When shutting down from the console, a graphical screen appears showing > the Fedora logo. That's really silly and I'd like to turn that off --- > but how? > Delete 'rghb' in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX in /etc/de

Re: new NetworkManager dependencies?

2012-11-05 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 09:56:42 -0800 Gordon Messmer wrote: > It's less work to simply disable NetworkManager, and less likely > to cause a dependent package to fail. Not when "disable" is apparently only a mild suggestion that has no actual effect :-). Apparently the word which actually means "dis

Re: disabling graphical boot and shutdown in Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread Sergio
On 11/05/2012 02:30 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote: On 11/05/2012 07:00 AM, sergio wrote: > When shutting down from the console, a graphical screen appears showing > the Fedora logo. That's really silly and I'd like to turn that off --- > but how? > Delete 'rghb' in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX in /etc/de

Re: new NetworkManager dependencies?

2012-11-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/03/2012 09:29 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: I think I've fixed it though: I now have this added to my "big hammer" yum update hooks: Isn't this more or less how Eric Raymond broke his system before he publicly stormed away from using Fedora? He forcefully removed a package that others depende

Re: What are the limitations of preupgrade

2012-11-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/03/2012 10:07 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: The bottom line appears to be 13->15->17, at most two versions at a time. I don't know of any reason you can't go from 13->16. Going directly to 17 is only problematic because of the /usr merge, since anaconda needs to handle that. And it's goi

Re: Renewing sendmail.pem, and other self-signed certs

2012-11-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
Thanks, Philip. I was guessing that the sever was having some trouble completing the TLS handshake, but that looks fine. You said in your original post that Thunderbird balks, but described only the server's behavior. What, exactly, does Thunderbird do when you try to connect? Have you tried

Re: [389-users] 389-users Digest, Vol 90, Issue 2

2012-11-05 Thread albert.solaris
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Re: disabling graphical boot and shutdown in Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 11/05/2012 07:00 AM, sergio wrote: > When shutting down from the console, a graphical screen appears showing > the Fedora logo. That's really silly and I'd like to turn that off --- > but how? > Delete 'rghb' in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX in /etc/default/grub Or just uninstall the plymouth the

Re: disabling graphical boot and shutdown in Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.11.2012 10:40, schrieb lee: > Hi, > > how do I turn off all the graphical booting and shutting down? > > What I want is *not* to start any X session when I boot or shutodwn. > When booting, I want to end up at the console, and I want to use startx > to start an X session from there after l

Re: New 64-bit Fedora Will Not Mount Similar 32-bit Filesystem

2012-11-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.11.2012 20:02, schrieb Alan Feuerbacher: > On 11/4/2012 1:33 PM, Alchemist wrote: > >> Try with lsblk -f >> > >> I did a pvscan and it came up with this: >> >> # >> PV /dev/sdb3 VG vg_alan-fedora lvm2 [2.73 TiB / 0free] >> Total: 1 [2.73 TiB] in use: 1

Re: New 64-bit Fedora Will Not Mount Similar 32-bit Filesystem

2012-11-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.11.2012 18:46, schrieb Alan Feuerbacher: > I have many files on the 32-bit disk that > I'd like to be able to access on the new 64-bit system, but so far I > have not been able to mount the old disk. I've tried various "mount" > commands with no success. I don't really understand the error

Re: F17 : installin vmware-workstation 8.0.4 takes forever with 100% cpu

2012-11-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.11.2012 15:52, schrieb Paul Smith: > On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:43 PM, mike lan wrote: >> I'm installin vmware-workstation 8.0.4 on F17 in a dell latitude laptop and >> it takes forever with 100% of cpu . >> >> though I had no problem installin it on another pc HP > > Give a try to VirtualB

Re: F17 : installin vmware-workstation 8.0.4 takes forever with 100% cpu

2012-11-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.11.2012 15:52, schrieb Paul Smith: > On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:43 PM, mike lan wrote: >> I'm installin vmware-workstation 8.0.4 on F17 in a dell latitude laptop and >> it takes forever with 100% of cpu . >> >> though I had no problem installin it on another pc HP > > Give a try to VirtualB

Re: disabling graphical boot and shutdown in Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread Kevin Martin
On 11/05/12 08:45, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/05/2012 10:17 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 08:05:02 -0600, >> Kevin Martin wrote: >>> >>> Wouldn't "systemctl disable graphical.target" and "systemctl enable >>> multi-user.target" do the same thing? >> >> I do not believe so

Re: disabling graphical boot and shutdown in Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/05/2012 10:17 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 08:05:02 -0600, > Kevin Martin wrote: >> >> Wouldn't "systemctl disable graphical.target" and "systemctl enable >> multi-user.target" do the same thing? > > I do not believe so. Because the default target gets run and it i

Re: disabling graphical boot and shutdown in Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 08:05:02 -0600, Kevin Martin wrote: Wouldn't "systemctl disable graphical.target" and "systemctl enable multi-user.target" do the same thing? I do not believe so. Because the default target gets run and it is going to use the config it is linked to. Enable and disa

Re: disabling graphical boot and shutdown in Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread Kevin Martin
On 11/05/12 07:22, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 10:40:33 +0100, > lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> how do I turn off all the graphical booting and shutting down? >> >> What I want is *not* to start any X session when I boot or shutodwn. >> When booting, I want to end up at the console

A wallet mystery

2012-11-05 Thread Timothy Murphy
First of all, KWalletManager does not seem to do anything on my Fedora-17/KDE laptop; I mean nothing seems to appear, or is listed in "top". So I don't know how to add an item to my wallet. I should say that I have never understood how the wallet scheme works. I understand its general purpose, bu

Re: emails, selinux and Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/05/2012 04:35 AM, lee wrote: > Hi, > > it seems that selinux gets in the way of my self-compiled emacs when gnus > is trying to get mails from /var/spool/mail/lee. Movemail isn't permitted > to get the mail from there. I have tried to adjust t

Re: disabling graphical boot and shutdown in Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 10:40:33 +0100, lee wrote: Hi, how do I turn off all the graphical booting and shutting down? What I want is *not* to start any X session when I boot or shutodwn. When booting, I want to end up at the console, and I want to use startx to start an X session from there

Re: Anyone doing UPNP on Fedora ? (Partially solved)

2012-11-05 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/03/2012 12:17 PM, Steve wrote: > On 11/02/2012 04:23 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: >>> I'll take another stab at getting it going later tonight. >> >> If you find something interesting, please post here! > > The problem was SELinux. I totally di

KMail folder not appearing

2012-11-05 Thread Timothy Murphy
I'm running KMail on my Fedora-17/KDE laptop, collecting email from an dovecot/IMAP server on a remote CentOS-6.3 machine that I control. I created a new KMail folder "MathProblems" by going to File=>New=>Add Folder on my laptop, and I verified that this created a folder ~/Mathdir/.MathProblems o

Re: Fedora 18, future isn't too good as it seems :-

2012-11-05 Thread Vikram Goyal
On Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 02:55:28PM +1100, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: > Hello, > > > I'm seeing that Fedora 18 has been delayed 5 times already, and this post > from Michael isn't looking too good either: > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIxODk > > > Distro like Ubuntu and Suse

Re: disabling graphical boot and shutdown in Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread Sergio
When shutting down from the console, a graphical screen appears showing the Fedora logo. That's really silly and I'd like to turn that off --- but how? Delete 'rghb' in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX in /etc/default/grub Or just uninstall the plymouth theme then you won't have that logo at shutdown and

Re: disabling graphical boot and shutdown in Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 10:40:33 +0100 lee wrote: > Hi, > > how do I turn off all the graphical booting and shutting down? > > What I want is *not* to start any X session when I boot or shutodwn. > When booting, I want to end up at the console, and I want to use > startx to start an X session from

emails, selinux and Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread lee
Hi, it seems that selinux gets in the way of my self-compiled emacs when gnus is trying to get mails from /var/spool/mail/lee. Movemail isn't permitted to get the mail from there. I have tried to adjust the file permissions on movemail, and it's like this now: -bash-4.2$ ls -laZ /usr/local/li

disabling graphical boot and shutdown in Fedora 17

2012-11-05 Thread lee
Hi, how do I turn off all the graphical booting and shutting down? What I want is *not* to start any X session when I boot or shutodwn. When booting, I want to end up at the console, and I want to use startx to start an X session from there after logging in. When shutting down from the console,