There was an error installing the bootloader. The system may not be bootable

2012-10-29 Thread shailesh
I was installing fresh copy of fedora 17. I used /dev/sda, where the windows 7 exists, as bootloader drive. At the end of the installation of packages, error is coming  "There was an error installing the bootloader. The system may not be bootable" -- users mailing list users

Re: F17: Connection of a Kindle Fire HD

2012-10-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-10-29 at 09:12 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:52:35 -0430 > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > For a moment there I thought this could be the solution for connecting > > my Galaxy Nexus phone (given that it can also work as an ereader), but > > it was not to be: > >

Re: Fixing a crashed disk

2012-10-29 Thread Robert Nichols
On 10/29/2012 01:32 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: and just what the firmware should do with a full read failure of a previously unsuspected bad sector, I'm sure, has been the subject of design meetings at the various disk manufacturers. They show up in the "Current pending sector" count in the SMART re

Re: bc and built-in funcs

2012-10-29 Thread inode0
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 7:35 PM, JD wrote: > Hi all > I have: > > $ rpm -q bc > bc-1.06.95-3.fc15.i686 > > I was searching the web for bc funs to calculate cube roots > and other arbitrary roots. Almost all of the func I found > assume that bc has the built-in funcs l and e which take > a numeric

Re: bc and built-in funcs

2012-10-29 Thread JD
Nevermind. Forgot the -l to include the math lib in the script. On 10/21/2012 06:35 PM, JD wrote: Hi all I have: $ rpm -q bc bc-1.06.95-3.fc15.i686 I was searching the web for bc funs to calculate cube roots and other arbitrary roots. Almost all of the func I found assume that bc has the buil

bc and built-in funcs

2012-10-29 Thread JD
Hi all I have: $ rpm -q bc bc-1.06.95-3.fc15.i686 I was searching the web for bc funs to calculate cube roots and other arbitrary roots. Almost all of the func I found assume that bc has the built-in funcs l and e which take a numeric arg. Yet my bc has no such funcs. Is the version above bro

Re: Fedora hangs driving me nuts, in Windows it works without problems!

2012-10-29 Thread JD
On 10/29/2012 02:47 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Monday, 29. October 2012. 15.32.26 valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Most of the time I work through the day whthout hangs and leave PC running, but when I return the next day I see that monitor won't turn back on, but still hdd light blinks from

Re: Fedora hangs driving me nuts, in Windows it works without problems!

2012-10-29 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday, 29. October 2012. 15.32.26 valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > Most of the time I work through the day whthout hangs and leave PC > running, but when I return the next day I see that monitor won't turn > back on, but still hdd light blinks from time to time This likely means that the mac

Re: Fixing a crashed disk

2012-10-29 Thread Dave Ihnat
Once, long ago--actually, on Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:59:44PM CDT--Robert Nichols (rnicholsnos...@comcast.net) said: > A sector that is unreadable even after retries CANNOT be remapped until it > is written, and any attempts to read it MUST return an I/O error until > that remapping has occurred.

Re: No Music or Movies Play in F17 - Missing Gstreamer?....

2012-10-29 Thread vendor
My solution is completely empirical -- having had it work a few times in the past. Whenever I have had problems with codecs and such, I install mplayer and ffmpeg and all the files yum drags in with it. That seems to fix the problem about 90% of the time... billo On Mon, 29 Oct 2012, Vikr

Re: Fixing a crashed disk

2012-10-29 Thread Robert Nichols
On 10/29/2012 11:30 AM, Dave Ihnat wrote: However, the firmware will do remapping of sectors _it_ determines are failing, and the probability is that if you are seeing errors consistently, it's because it can't remap. A sector that is unreadable even after retries CANNOT be remapped until it

ABRT didn't detect segfaults of usb_modeswitch

2012-10-29 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi, Running updates-testing I noticed once my usb modem didn't work - caused by usb_mdoeswitch segfaulting 3 times in a row: Oct 29 18:37:27 localhost kernel: [ 23.740625] usb_modeswitch_[1374]: segfault at 7fff0251aff8 ip 00300087f434 sp 7fff0251b000 error 6 in libc-2.15.so[300080+

Re: Fixing a crashed disk

2012-10-29 Thread Dave Ihnat
Once, long ago--actually, on Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 08:57:12AM CDT--Alan Cox (a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) said: > Completely wrong. With all due respect, no it isn't. It was simplistic, because I didn't want to go into an entire tutorial on the mailing list. Go read about P-lists, G-lists, and abou

Bugzilla - Modeset - Kernel 3.4 to 3.6 upgrade no longer boots

2012-10-29 Thread Steve T
Good afternoon, I have been running my laptop on various versions of FC without a problem and am currently on FC16 running Gnome 3 in full mode. Recently the FC16 Kernel was updated from 3.4.11 to 3.6.2 and my laptop (Dell Latitude D610 ) would no longer boot - although I could go back to any 3.4

Re: Fedora hangs driving me nuts, in Windows it works without problems!

2012-10-29 Thread R. Welsh
I am not familiar with the features of Sandy Bridge architecture, but there might be a couple of things you could try. If the system runs throughout the day and you are experiencing the problem at night, are there any services you can disable or adjust to see if you can isolate the cause and maybe

Re: Fedora hangs driving me nuts, in Windows it works without problems!

2012-10-29 Thread Michael Cronenworth
valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > How can I troubleshoot intel driver further? Can you try to SSH into the box when it becomes non-responsive? It could be that your box is stuck in DPMS off mode and the video card won't wake up. The rest of the machine could be running normally and allow you to

Re: Fax to email gateway

2012-10-29 Thread Dave Ihnat
Once, long ago--actually, on Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:18:28AM CDT--Gary Stainburn (gary.stainb...@ringways.co.uk) said: > I'm looking to create a fax gateway, either fax to email or fax > to program. I've googled this but everything I've looked at it at > least 5 years old. I was wondering what pe

Re: Fedora hangs driving me nuts, in Windows it works without problems!

2012-10-29 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2012-10-29 at 12:01 +0100, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > > I don't use windows However, I recently had a series of hangs on my > > F17 box that I could not explain. Although I fixed the problem before > > installing the lm_sensors package I would recommend installing it and >

Fax to email gateway

2012-10-29 Thread Gary Stainburn
Hi folks. I'm looking to create a fax gateway, either fax to email or fax to program. I've googled this but everything I've looked at it at least 5 years old. I was wondering what people are using these days and what's good now. Gary -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsub

Re: Fixing a crashed disk

2012-10-29 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Alan Cox writes: > What really matters is whether the drive itself thinks on its smart test > whether it is likely to be failing not some joke heuristic. And even then, if the 5-year old Google numbers are still valid, you have a 1/3 chance of being surprised. "The Google team found that 36

Re: F17: Connection of a Kindle Fire HD

2012-10-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:52:35 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > For a moment there I thought this could be the solution for connecting > my Galaxy Nexus phone (given that it can also work as an ereader), but > it was not to be: > > OpenFailed: Failed to open MTPDevice(busnum=1, devnum=12, > vend

Re: Fedora hangs driving me nuts, in Windows it works without problems!

2012-10-29 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2012-10-29 at 15:32 +0100, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > >> > Few times (much less often) Fedora hangs while I'm working, but that > happened only a few times. > > How can I troubleshoot intel driver further? Any chance of putting in a different video card and see if it still freez

Re: Fedora hangs driving me nuts, in Windows it works without problems!

2012-10-29 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
>> 2. Problems with the video drivers. Since you did run the memory test, >> this >> is the most probable. What graphics card does your system have? > > > I'd bet on the drivers. I have Core i5-2500k (no additional graphics card, > just the integrated Intel HD 3000) in my home computer and used to

Re: Fedora hangs driving me nuts, in Windows it works without problems!

2012-10-29 Thread Martin Briza
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:59:27 +0100 Matthew Miller wrote: 2. Problems with the video drivers. Since you did run the memory test, this is the most probable. What graphics card does your system have? I'd bet on the drivers. I have Core i5-2500k (no additional graphics card, just the integrat

Re: LIST-MODERATION ... Re: Purge old eth1, add new nic as eth0

2012-10-29 Thread Andre Speelmans
>> On 10/16/2012 07:52 AM, David wrote: >>> I find it odd that moderators feel the need to have to apologize to >>> someone that complains about being moderated that violated the rules on >>> a fairly open list badly enough to be moderated. > On 10/16/2012 1:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> Actually, the

Re: Fedora hangs driving me nuts, in Windows it works without problems!

2012-10-29 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:39:09AM +0100, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > My work Fedora 17 64bit box gangs without reason, and I can't track > down issue causing it! When I reboot into Windows 7 32bit it works for > days without any hangs. There's several likely culprits: 1. Bad memory. Windo

Re: Fixing a crashed disk

2012-10-29 Thread Alan Cox
> So... Am I OK or an Deep S**t? Reallocated Sector Count is 0. Good? You are fine. Ask the drive to be absolutely sure. But not by looking at SMART numbers and pretending to understand them but by asking the drive its health report smartctl --health /dev/whatever -- users mailing list users@

Re: Fixing a crashed disk

2012-10-29 Thread Alan Cox
> Beg to differ. Remember, drives have reserved storage to remap bad sectors > *before* you ever see a bad sector at the interface. So, by the time you > think you're seeing only 8 bad sectors, you've actually burned through > the reserved sectors--many more have failed than you realize. Complet

Re: Fixing a crashed disk

2012-10-29 Thread Steven Stern
On 10/29/2012 07:53 AM, Dave Ihnat wrote: > Once, long ago--actually, on Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 06:19:59AM CDT--Alan Cox > (a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) said: >> Rubbish. > > Beg to differ. Remember, drives have reserved storage to remap bad sectors > *before* you ever see a bad sector at the interfa

Re: Fixing a crashed disk

2012-10-29 Thread Dave Ihnat
Once, long ago--actually, on Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 06:19:59AM CDT--Alan Cox (a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) said: > Rubbish. Beg to differ. Remember, drives have reserved storage to remap bad sectors *before* you ever see a bad sector at the interface. So, by the time you think you're seeing only 8 b

Re: Architectural CAD

2012-10-29 Thread Alan Cox
I do almost all my CAD work these days using OpenSCAD/ImplicitCAD etc. However if you are not coming from a programming background they will I suspect throw you completely. It's possible to use blender for this kind of stuff, particularly visuals but it's not really good for doing the actual desi

Re: Architectural CAD

2012-10-29 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 10/28/2012 01:56 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: Can anyone suggest an architectural CAD package comparable to AutoCAD for use in preparing layered drawings for residential remodeling? No FOSS package approaches AutoCAD, unfortunately, although I've used QCad for minor household renovatio

RE: Architectural CAD

2012-10-29 Thread Errol Mangwiro
AutoCAD WS?? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/autocad-ws/dcjeclnkejmbepoibfnamioojinoopln From: Robert G. (Doc) Savage Sent: ‎29‎ ‎October‎ ‎2012 ‎3‎:‎35‎ ‎AM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: Architectural CAD On Sun, 2012-10-28 at 16:33 -0400, Doug wrote:

Re: Fedora hangs driving me nuts, in Windows it works without problems!

2012-10-29 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 29.10.2012, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > Because screen goes off I'm starting to think that it could be i915 > driver fault maybe? Is anybody else having issues like these and has > i915 driver with Sandybridge gpu? Is there anything showing up in the logs? You could compile a kernel wi

Re: Fixing a crashed disk

2012-10-29 Thread Alan Cox
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:33:55 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 27.10.2012 01:29, schrieb Steven Stern: > > Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 8 Offline uncorrectable sectors > > Smartctl tells me the problem is at LBA 2014551336 (this is a 2TB disk) > > sounds bad > > > Here's the question: If I just

Re: Fedora hangs driving me nuts, in Windows it works without problems!

2012-10-29 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
> I don't use windows However, I recently had a series of hangs on my F17 > box that I could not explain. Although I fixed the problem before installing > the lm_sensors package I would recommend installing it and checking your CPU > temps. > Neither do I, just use them as troubleshooting

Re: Fedora hangs driving me nuts, in Windows it works without problems!

2012-10-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/29/2012 05:39 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > My work Fedora 17 64bit box gangs without reason, and I can't track > down issue causing it! When I reboot into Windows 7 32bit it works for > days without any hangs. > > This is a company PC so IT installed Windows 7, but I don't use it, >