Re: Fedora 17 Upgrade...FINALLY!

2012-08-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/05/2012 12:38 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > Error From Video Player: > Movie Player requires additional plugins to decode this file > The following plugins are required: MPEG-4 AAC decoder > H.264 decoder > Do you want to search fo

Re: Fedora 17 Upgrade...FINALLY!

2012-08-04 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 00:38:40 -0400 "Eddie G. O'Connor Jr." wrote: > Ok so FINALLY I've gone ahead and gotten my laptop upgraded to Fedora > 17! But I now am trying to play .mp4 / .flv/ .avi movies on it and > getting an error message telling me that there are plugins missing. I > also get erro

Fedora 17 Upgrade...FINALLY!

2012-08-04 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
Ok so FINALLY I've gone ahead and gotten my laptop upgraded to Fedora 17! But I now am trying to play .mp4 / .flv/ .avi movies on it and getting an error message telling me that there are plugins missing. I also get error messages when I try to play mp3's. Even though I get system sounds. Is th

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-08-04 Thread Richard Vickery
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 08/01/2012 12:51 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > Am I the only person who thinks that the whole idea should be dropped? > > I never, ever, heard anyone refer to Fedora-17 as Fedora Beefy Miracle > > (if that is indeed the right name). > > No,

Re: Kororaa forum problem

2012-08-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/05/2012 12:03 PM, Doug wrote: > I just hit "Post Reply" and the editor came up, and after I was finished, I > hit submit, and I got the same nasty message I got in the first place. (See > my initial inquiry here.) Let me try this one more time. Fedora Mailing List and Kororaa Forums a

Re: Kororaa forum problem

2012-08-04 Thread Doug
On 08/04/2012 11:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/05/2012 10:41 AM, Doug wrote: Well, I did ask the question here, because, a) I'm having trouble with the forum, and b) They referred their users to this list. Does anyone reading this list know a way of contacting them by email _without_ using

Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-04 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Dave Burns wrote: > Me confused. I want to try booting the FC17 install disk in lowres or > text mode. To do this, apparently I should enter "linux lowres" or > "linux text" at the "boot prompt". > > The fc17 install guide > ( > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/

Re: Kororaa forum problem

2012-08-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/05/2012 10:41 AM, Doug wrote: > Well, I did ask the question here, because, a) I'm having trouble with the > forum, and b) They referred their users to this list. Does anyone reading > this list know a way of contacting them > by email _without_ using their forum, since I can't seem to ge

Re: Kororaa forum problem

2012-08-04 Thread Doug
On 08/04/2012 09:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/05/2012 09:32 AM, Doug wrote: New to this list, and to Kororaa and its forum. I posted a q to the K forum and was answered with a q. When I tried to reply to the correspondent, (several times, several ways) i always get this: Kororaa is a remix

Re: Kororaa forum problem

2012-08-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/05/2012 09:32 AM, Doug wrote: > New to this list, and to Kororaa and its forum. I posted a q to the K forum > and was answered with a q. When I tried to reply to the correspondent, > (several times, several ways) i always get this: Kororaa is a remix of Fedora. They have their own support

Re: Linux or GNU/Linux

2012-08-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/03/2012 06:09 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: While it's technically true to call such distros "GNU/Linux", such a label ignores a large portion of the origin and richness of those distros. I don't think that's true. Linux is the kernel. GNU/Linux is the (POSIX) operating system. Fedora is the

Kororaa forum problem

2012-08-04 Thread Doug
Hi, all-- New to this list, and to Kororaa and its forum. I posted a q to the K forum and was answered with a q. When I tried to reply to the correspondent, (several times, several ways) i always get this: _

Re: fedora 16 to 17upgrade fails again

2012-08-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/05/2012 07:24 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > This is the second time that it happens: > The uograde from fedora 16 to 17 fails with the message: > The /usr merge script failed. THis is required for Fedora 17 to work. The > upgrade cannot continue. > > Then, it is impossible to boor on the pr

Re: fedora 16 to 17upgrade fails again

2012-08-04 Thread Patrick Dupre
On 2012-08-05 01:35, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 05.08.2012 01:24, schrieb Patrick Dupre: Hello, This is the second time that it happens: The uograde from fedora 16 to 17 fails with the message: The /usr merge script failed. THis is required for Fedora 17 to work. The upgrade cannot continue. Th

fedora 16 to 17upgrade fails again

2012-08-04 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, This is the second time that it happens: The uograde from fedora 16 to 17 fails with the message: The /usr merge script failed. THis is required for Fedora 17 to work. The upgrade cannot continue. Then, it is impossible to boor on the previous installation. This is a real serious bug (

Re: Firefox install-problem

2012-08-04 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 04.08.2012, James Wilkinson wrote: > Even though the build was OK, you still might want to do a memtest of > your system. I solved the problem. The culprit is prelink, which lets parts of the package clash. Didn't find the related bugreport st once, though, and spent some hours digging into t

Re: Firefox install-problem

2012-08-04 Thread James Wilkinson
Heinz Diehl wrote: > Firefox, built from .srpm from F17-updates repository, fails to install: > This is the error-message which shows up: > > "Unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/lib64/firefox/firefox;501bceec: > cpio: Digest mismatch" > > The package is original Fedora and not altered in a

Re: Linux or GNU/Linux

2012-08-04 Thread Alan Cox
> work with the Program" and I was just speaking about what I heard and > read about "delisenced kernel headers" in android. Which is rubbish - beware of junk spouted by PR people involved in lawsuits. The are paid to dissemble, deceived and damage. > unfortunately I disagree with you, there migh

failed f16 preupgrade, now stuck in grub2 rescue, can't exit

2012-08-04 Thread jackson byers
I am now stuck in an unresponsive grub2: ] grub rescue > it responds to a few commands, such as 'ls' but in particular it fails on exit which is supposed to quit, instead says unknown command 'exit'. I was attempting a preupgrade from one of my two f14 installs, both of which worked, pri

Re: Linux or GNU/Linux

2012-08-04 Thread Shibi
I must confess that I really am much less informed than you about the matter, I didn't know about "Mere aggregation of another independent work with the Program" and I was just speaking about what I heard and read about "delisenced kernel headers" in android. > Free software is a good thirty years

Re: Linux or GNU/Linux

2012-08-04 Thread Alan Cox
> Suggested naming convention was invented by pioneers of Free Software > to show the role of GNU and free software philosophy in creation of a > free community-based "Operating System". they want to show OS (not > kernel) as a representer of Free Software. Free software is a good thirty years old

Re: Linux or GNU/Linux

2012-08-04 Thread Shibi
> However, a significant portion of the development of gcc and glibc > (among many other GNU projects) over the last 20 years has come from the > Linux community. Without Linux, gcc and glibc would be very different > than they are today. Does that mean they should be renamed to Linux/GNU > CC an

Re: Linux or GNU/Linux

2012-08-04 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Shibi said: > in my opinion Linux couldn't and still cannot exist without certain > parts of gnu project including software and licenses, especially gcc, > glibc However, a significant portion of the development of gcc and glibc (among many other GNU projects) over the last 20 y

Re: Does Spamassassin junk processing work for anyone under evolution?

2012-08-04 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 22:37 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 15:08 -0400, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 14:37 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > > On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 10:34 -0400, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 21:23 -0400, Matthew Salt

Re: Does Spamassassin junk processing work for anyone under evolution?

2012-08-04 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sat, 2012-08-04 at 07:11 -0400, Tim wrote: > On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 14:37 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > Ah. The answer is, yes. It works on my Exchange EWS account and on > > my POP3 account. For some definition of "works". Some junk is not > > caught and some non-junk is caught. There

RE: Linux or GNU/Linux

2012-08-04 Thread Junayeed Ahnaf
Why GNU/Linux? Why not GNU Linux // GNU && Linux // GNU-Linux etc? GNU/Linux implies either GNU or Linux, right? Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 13:13:59 +0100 Subject: Re: Linux or GNU/Linux From: discordia...@gmail.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org I call it Linux/Gnu. Without the kernel it wou

Re: Linux or GNU/Linux

2012-08-04 Thread Alan Cox
> in my opinion Linux couldn't and still cannot exist without certain > parts of gnu project including software and licenses, especially gcc, > glibc, gpl and lgpl. and that's true for android too, unless it uses > kernel header's without gpl licensing instead of glibc. At the time Linux was creat

RE: Linux or GNU/Linux

2012-08-04 Thread Junayeed Ahnaf
Why GNU/Linux? Why not GNU Linux // GNU && Linux // GNU-Linux etc? GNU/Linux implies either GNU or Linux, right? Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 13:13:59 +0100 Subject: Re: Linux or GNU/Linux From: discordia...@gmail.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org I call it Linux/Gnu. Without the kernel it wouldn

Re: Linux or GNU/Linux

2012-08-04 Thread Clive Hills
I call it Linux/Gnu. Without the kernel it wouldn't even boot. -- Clive -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have

Re: kernel-headers downgrade failure

2012-08-04 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > so until someone knows what is going wrong in 3.5 the > right decision would have been build 3.4.7 for F17 too > instead psuh blindly 3.5 out - and after such decisions > someone is wondering why people start ranting? If there's one thing I k

Re: Does Spamassassin junk processing work for anyone under evolution?

2012-08-04 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 14:37 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > Ah. The answer is, yes. It works on my Exchange EWS account and on > my POP3 account. For some definition of "works". Some junk is not > caught and some non-junk is caught. There is no junk in my Gmail > account, but I don't get much

Re: kernel-headers downgrade failure

2012-08-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 15:16:31 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > my point was that i am testing many fedora-packages often long > before updates-testing is seeing them and it doe snot help > much if maintainers say "hm bugreport, however i push to stable" > > and YES the 3.5.x currently in F17 stable i

Re: Linux or GNU/Linux

2012-08-04 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 14:36 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > In some cases - by code volume the FSF is not the biggest contributor, > even when you include (as they like to) all the third party code they > took and labelled GNU. In the case of the largest and most common > Linux > distribution today there