On 09.07.2012, ny6...@gmail.com wrote:
> I've been using mutt for years as my only email client, and I can tell you
> from personal experience that mutt is _much_ faster to get around in and
> read and process mail than one with a gui. In fact, that's it's chief
> selling point.
And it has by fa
On 07/09/2012 12:27 PM, Norman Gaywood wrote:
> This sequence of commands once worked in F16 (in kernel 3.2.10-3)
>
> mkdir -p /tmp/testing
> cd /tmp/testing/
> mkdir -p foo bar
> mount -t tmpfs tmpfs foo/
> mount --move foo bar/
>
> Sometime around 3.3.0-4 and maybe before the last command above g
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 02:49:19PM +0530, magina antimage wrote:
> > it freezes for forever.
> > pressing these keys does nothingalso mouse cursor gets vanished...
>
> Ok, then I don't have any idea. Seems like maybe hardware or kernel
This sequence of commands once worked in F16 (in kernel 3.2.10-3)
mkdir -p /tmp/testing
cd /tmp/testing/
mkdir -p foo bar
mount -t tmpfs tmpfs foo/
mount --move foo bar/
Sometime around 3.3.0-4 and maybe before the last command above gives
this message:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad supe
Given that MD5 is nowadays considered unsafe
In 2004, more serious flaws were discovered in MD5, making further use
of the algorithm for security purposes questionable—specifically, a
group of researchers described how to create a pair of files that
share the same MD5 checksum.[4][5] Further
On 07/08/2012 06:07 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
(stuck trying to decide if I want to go the C, C#, C++ route...or the
Python way)!.any tips there?...
when I went to vist some people i knew from ixsystems, freebsd
foundation, netbsd project couple months ago
I brought up that i
On Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 06:27:25PM -0400, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
> On 07/08/2012 04:37 PM, Edward M wrote:
> >On 07/08/2012 01:27 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
> >>If I may?...exactly what IS "mutt"?is it something I should
> >>concern myself with?
> >
> >mutt is a text based email
On 07/08/2012 07:18 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
Once, long ago--actually, on Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 06:27:25PM -0400--Eddie
G.O'Connor Jr-I (eoconno...@gmail.com) said:
HmmmI guess it's because I've never used something like it, but
I imagine it's pretty hard to move around in if it's all text
base
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On 07/08/2012 04:09 PM, Beartooth wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Jul 2012 19:08:13 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>
> []
>> Under Gnome, if you open Advanced Settings --> Theme --> Cursor theme
>> you can select different cursor themes including different
Once, long ago--actually, on Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 06:27:25PM -0400--Eddie
G.O'Connor Jr-I (eoconno...@gmail.com) said:
> HmmmI guess it's because I've never used something like it, but
> I imagine it's pretty hard to move around in if it's all text
> based?no icons to click on for deleting
On 07/08/2012 06:37 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 09.07.2012, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
HmmmI guess it's because I've never used something like it, but I
imagine it's pretty hard to move around in if it's all text based?
It's actually quite easy, I just need my right hand and nothing else.
On 07/08/2012 06:30 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 09.07.2012, Heinz Diehl wrote:
Mutt is a console/textbased MUA, see http://www.mutt.org .
It is highly customizeable/configurable, but for the most common cases
you want to run a local mailserver and POP3-client (e.g. fetchmail)
to be able to use i
On 09.07.2012, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
> HmmmI guess it's because I've never used something like it, but I
> imagine it's pretty hard to move around in if it's all text based?
It's actually quite easy, I just need my right hand and nothing else.
This is freely configurable, you can writ
On 09.07.2012, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> Mutt is a console/textbased MUA, see http://www.mutt.org .
> It is highly customizeable/configurable, but for the most common cases
> you want to run a local mailserver and POP3-client (e.g. fetchmail)
> to be able to use it fully.
You can see three snapshots
On 07/08/2012 04:37 PM, Edward M wrote:
On 07/08/2012 01:27 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
If I may?...exactly what IS "mutt"?is it something I should
concern myself with?
mutt is a text based email client.
HmmmI guess it's because I've never used something like it, but I
imag
On 09.07.2012, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
> If I may?...exactly what IS "mutt"?is it something I should concern
> myself with?
Mutt is a console/textbased MUA, see http://www.mutt.org .
It is highly customizeable/configurable, but for the most common cases
you want to run a local mailserve
On 07/08/2012 12:42 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
My 7 year old Dell Dimension 8400 is on its last legs, so I thought it
time to find something new:
07/07/2012 11:57:40AM Agent (Sagar A): "Hi Steve"
07/07/2012 11:57:42AM Agent (Sagar A): "Welcome to Dell US Chat! My name
is Sagar Andreas and I will b
rb wrote:
> I'm trying to send email, using sendmail, with authentication port 587 and
> credentials.
>
> I modified sendmail.mc as follows:
> TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`EXTERNAL DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
> define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `EXTERNAL GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN
> PLAIN')dnl
> FE
> On Sun, 2012-07-08 at 12:42 -0400, Steven Stern wrote:
> > 1) No, I don't want to assemble my own machine from parts.
In any reasonable-sized city, you should be able to find a local computer store
that specializes in customized workstations. Just come in with your specs and
brand preference
On Sun, 2012-07-08 at 12:42 -0400, Steven Stern wrote:
> My 7 year old Dell Dimension 8400 is on its last legs, so I thought it
> time to find something new:
>
> 07/07/2012 11:57:40AM Agent (Sagar A): "Hi Steve"
> 07/07/2012 11:57:42AM Agent (Sagar A): "Welcome to Dell US Chat! My name
> is Sagar
On Sat, 07 Jul 2012 19:08:13 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
[]
> Under Gnome, if you open Advanced Settings --> Theme --> Cursor theme
> you can select different cursor themes including different colors and
> sizes. The only hard part is that you do not get a preview.
Well,
On 07/08/2012 01:27 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
If I may?...exactly what IS "mutt"?is it something I should
concern myself with?
mutt is a text based email client.
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On 07/08/2012 08:47 AM, suvayu ali wrote:
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 08.07.2012, suvayu ali wrote:
However I used `\\.' instead of `\.', I believe the former
should match a literal `.' just like `\\+'?
Yes, of course. I simply overlooked the second slash here, so
Upon looking back to when I first started finding an interest in Linux,
the biggest "problem" I had?..was deciding WHICH distro to install!
There were TONS of them!from the Debian & Debian-based, to the Gnome
styles, to the KDE'sLXDE'sLXFCE etc. I finally figured out that
KDE wa
Robert Myers wrote:
And *your* mandate to tell others how to behave comes from where?
Mine comes from having moderator privileges on the list. You don't
have to like it, but this thread is now closed. It is grossly
off-topic for the list and the behavior of many participants here is
out of
On 07/08/2012 03:43 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 08.07.2012, suvayu ali wrote:
PS: If you are wondering, what I took from the thread, it's going to be
a pain if at some point the optional requirement to secure boot is
removed.
This reminds me on the past, before the mainboard/BIOS manuf
On 07/08/2012 09:42 AM, Steven Stern wrote:
Now that I'm done with Dell, I've priced out systems on Ohava, zareason,
and System76. The quotes come out with insignificant dollar differences.
Do you have any experience with these vendors?
A few comments;
1) No, I don't want to assemble my own mac
Am 07.07.2012 16:47, schrieb Frank Murphy:
> On 07/07/12 14:14, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> The tread is about _Fedora_
>>
>> you refuse to understand what i am saying
>>
>> Fedora is NOT relevant because the point is how to run
>> ANY FREE operating system (Linux, BSD, OpenSolaris, Whatever)
>
> T
On 07/08/2012 01:34 AM, rb wrote:
> I'm trying to send email, using sendmail, with authentication port 587 and
> credentials.
>
> I modified sendmail.mc as follows:
> TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`EXTERNAL DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
> define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `EXTERNAL GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
Am 07.07.2012 16:17, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
> On 07.07.2012, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>> do not buy the cheapest consumer crap and you are on the safe side
>> in the BUSINESS market microsoft has nothing to say, really!
>
> Here in Norway, ~99% of all institutions use Windows. Both Windows 7
> for
Quoting jackson byers :
Steven Stern wrote:
etc...
when I look at the Puget site I don't see who makes the radio. I've
had a lot of trouble with my netbook's wifi, do you know if they
specify somewhere what kind they use?
Dave
Now that I'm done with Dell, I've priced out systems on
O
On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 08:57:55PM +0100, andrea wrote:
> I cant play m4a files with amarok.
> They do not even appear in the list of files when browsing.
>
> It is configured to use gstreamer and I have the following plugins
> installed
>
[...]
> mplayer of course plays it with no problems.
>
Steven Stern wrote:
> Now that I'm done with Dell, I've priced out systems on
> Ohava, zareason, and System76.
> The quotes come out with insignificant dollar differences.
> Do you have any experience with these vendors?
> 1) No, I don't want to assemble my own machine from parts.
> 2) I plan to
On 08.07.2012, rb wrote:
> I'm trying to send email, using sendmail, with authentication port 587 and
> credentials.
[]
Save yourself from a lot of trouble, painfull configuration and even
more painfull debugging, and use postfix as your MTA. Yes, that's not
a solution to your problem, and l
> On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 09:14:51 -0700
> Joe Zeff wrote:
>
> On 07/08/2012 08:36 AM, nomnex wrote:
> > "Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do. I'm half crazy all for the
> > love of you. It won't be a stylish marriage, I can't afford a
> > carriage. But you'll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle bu
Check out Puget Systems http://www.pugetsystems.com. They have exactly
the configuration that you're looking for.
I have purchased two systems from them: a 17" laptop and an "Echo I"
that I intend to use as a DVR. Both are running Linux, needless to say.
Puget uses Linux internally, and can pro
Hi
As far as I know, Zareason has some long term quality issues, and
mostly system76 are correct in every view but expensive compared to
your wishes. I think the middle laptop after configuring will solve
your problems.
Zoltan
2012/7/8 Steven Stern :
> My 7 year old Dell Dimension 8400 is on its
My 7 year old Dell Dimension 8400 is on its last legs, so I thought it
time to find something new:
07/07/2012 11:57:40AM Agent (Sagar A): "Hi Steve"
07/07/2012 11:57:42AM Agent (Sagar A): "Welcome to Dell US Chat! My name
is Sagar Andreas and I will be your Dell.com Sales Chat Expert.I can be
reac
Il 08/07/2012 18:20, Jack Craig ha scritto:
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 9:03 AM, antonio montagnani
mailto:antonio.montagn...@alice.it>> wrote:
Mikkel L. Ellertson ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on
08/07/2012 16:57:
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On 07/08/2012 09:07 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
Well, they're the 800 lb. gorilla in the_desktop PC_ room. They're
also a large gorilla in the x86 server room, but they're more like a
small gnat in the tablet room (and maybe a large dog in the smartphone
room).
Actually it's probably more like the
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 9:03 AM, antonio montagnani <
antonio.montagn...@alice.it> wrote:
> Mikkel L. Ellertson ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on
> 08/07/2012 16:57:
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>> On 07/08/2012 01:35 AM, antonio montagnani wrote:
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Mikkel L. Ellertson ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on
08/07/2012 16:57:
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On 07/08/2012 01:35 AM, antonio montagnani wrote:
when I connect an external HD (powered) I get:
lsusb
Bus 001 Device 010: ID 045e:0728 Microsoft Corp.
Bus 001
On 07/08/2012 08:36 AM, nomnex wrote:
"Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do. I'm half crazy all for the love
of you. It won't be a stylish marriage, I can't afford a carriage. But
you'll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle built for two. "
"Donald, Donald,
Here is your answer do:
I'm not craz
Once upon a time, Dave Ihnat said:
> Once, long ago--actually, on Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 12:20:02AM +0100--Alan Cox
> (a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) said:
> > Many Android ARM based devices are already locked down. In shouting at
> > Microsoft on the ARM issue you need to point fingers at a lot of othe
have you tried http://libusbx.org/ ??
I'd slam that puppy in, crank up the debug and see what happens...
still, i want to find the traditional debug control...
just some thoughts...
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Jack Craig wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:55 AM, antonio montagnani <
>
Mikkel L. Ellertson ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on
08/07/2012 16:57:
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On 07/08/2012 01:35 AM, antonio montagnani wrote:
when I connect an external HD (powered) I get:
lsusb
Bus 001 Device 010: ID 045e:0728 Microsoft Corp.
Bus 001
Once upon a time, rb said:
> I'm trying to send email, using sendmail, with authentication port 587 and
> credentials.
>
> I modified sendmail.mc as follows:
> TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`EXTERNAL DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
> define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `EXTERNAL GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:55 AM, antonio montagnani <
antonio.montagn...@alice.it> wrote:
> Jack Craig ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 08/07/2012
> 16:33:
>
>>
>>
No Sir.
I was using udevadm to debug a new usb target and as I recall,
it was something like, cat 1 > /proc/usb?? and
Mikkel L. Ellertson ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on
08/07/2012 16:57:
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On 07/08/2012 01:35 AM, antonio montagnani wrote:
when I connect an external HD (powered) I get:
lsusb
Bus 001 Device 010: ID 045e:0728 Microsoft Corp.
Bus 001
Jack Craig ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 08/07/2012 16:33:
On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 10:56 PM, antonio montagnani
mailto:antonio.montagn...@alice.it>> wrote:
Il 08/07/2012 01:48, Mikkel L. Ellertson ha scritto:
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On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 11:34 PM, rb wrote:
> I'm trying to send email, using sendmail, with authentication port 587 and
> credentials.
>
> I modified sendmail.mc as follows:
> TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`EXTERNAL DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
> define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `EXTERNAL GSSAPI DIGEST-MD
> On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 11:04:37 -0400
> Robert Myers wrote:
>
> >
> There is apparently an unlimited supply of fruit-cakes here who feel
> they have a right to the last word and/or that anyone at all would
> listen to their direction.
"Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do. I'm half crazy all for t
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:35 AM, nomnex wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 07:52:40 -0400
>> Robert Myers wrote:
>>
>>
>> Robert Myers, Fedora Oddity
>
> Ground control to Dr trololo-Meyer, Take your protein pills and put your
> helmet on (Ten) Ground control (Nine) to Dr trololo-Meyer (Eight)
> (Seven
On 08.07.2012, suvayu ali wrote:
> Thanks a lot for the confirmation! I am liking mutt a lot. I think
> I'll fiddle some more. :)
You're welcome! Mutt has served me as a mail client over a long time,
and though I've looked at other clients as well, none could really
convince me. When I need acce
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On 07/08/2012 01:35 AM, antonio montagnani wrote:
>
> when I connect an external HD (powered) I get:
>
>> lsusb
>> Bus 001 Device 010: ID 045e:0728 Microsoft Corp.
>> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1a40:0101 TERMINUS TECHNOLOGY INC. USB-2.0
4-Port HUB
>> Bus
> On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 07:52:40 -0400
> Robert Myers wrote:
>
>
> Robert Myers, Fedora Oddity
Ground control to Dr trololo-Meyer, Take your protein pills and put your
helmet on (Ten) Ground control (Nine) to Dr trololo-Meyer (Eight)
(Seven, six) Commencing countdown (Five), engines on (Four)
(Thre
On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 10:56 PM, antonio montagnani <
antonio.montagn...@alice.it> wrote:
> Il 08/07/2012 01:48, Mikkel L. Ellertson ha scritto:
>
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>> On 07/07/2012 12:06 PM, antonio montagnani wrote:
>>
>>> I installed a cheap USB hub and mu
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 08.07.2012, suvayu ali wrote:
>
>> However I used `\\.' instead of `\.', I believe the former
>> should match a literal `.' just like `\\+'?
>
> Yes, of course. I simply overlooked the second slash here, sorry!
> If the expression only shoul
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Ed Gurski wrote:
>
>
> Heil Doctor Art Brush -- That's what you used to be known as. Doctor of
> WHAT? Time has not changed you in the least! You're still as arrogant as
> you've always been --- bullying your way around and then whinnying that
> people have no respe
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Richard Vickery
wrote:
> Since when did you get the insane idea that you could somehow control
> others, much less how we address you? Newsflash: that's not how this
> Hobbesian state of nature that we live in works. Me thinks you need some
> more education - this
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Christopher Svanefalk <
christopher.svanef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Ed Gurski wrote:
>
>>
>> > Not to worry. Just as soon as you stop talking about me, I'll
>> > disappear. If you want to refer to someone by their last name, it is
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Ed Gurski wrote:
>
> > Not to worry. Just as soon as you stop talking about me, I'll
> > disappear. If you want to refer to someone by their last name, it is
> > customary to use the appropriate honorific, the last name by itself
> > being taken as rude. In my c
> Not to worry. Just as soon as you stop talking about me, I'll
> disappear. If you want to refer to someone by their last name, it is
> customary to use the appropriate honorific, the last name by itself
> being taken as rude. In my case, the appropriate honorific would be
> Dr. So address me
On 08.07.2012, suvayu ali wrote:
> However I used `\\.' instead of `\.', I believe the former
> should match a literal `.' just like `\\+'?
Yes, of course. I simply overlooked the second slash here, sorry!
If the expression only should match on a single point, you have to
double-escape the "." h
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> reply-hook '~h "Delivered-To: +mygmailid\\+keyword@gmail\.com"''my_hdr From:
> emai...@otherdomain.com'
This works! However I used `\\.' instead of `\.', I believe the former
should match a literal `.' just like `\\+'?
Thanks a lot!
--
Suv
On 08/07/12 19:09, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 08.07.2012, Roger wrote:
Microsoft caused Linux to happen.
Linus Torvalds caused Linux to happen, as a hobby and being
disappointed with minix..
Although, I reckon what came as a result of Linus Torvalds work happened
through devs getting together whi
On 08/07/12 19:09, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 08.07.2012, Roger wrote:
Microsoft caused Linux to happen.
Linus Torvalds caused Linux to happen, as a hobby and being
disappointed with minix..
Oops. Soribouthat.
Roger
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On 08.07.2012, Roger wrote:
> Microsoft caused Linux to happen.
Linus Torvalds caused Linux to happen, as a hobby and being
disappointed with minix..
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On 08.07.2012, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
> This is why I consider Linux the "better" technology!not many other
> vendors of software would ALLOW you to hack away at their code just for your
> own personal achievement!
Jupp! Using Wind*ws and Endnote (which my University provides gratis),
On 08.07.2012, suvayu ali wrote:
> This is what I have tried:
>
> reply-hook "~h 'Delivered-To: mygmailid+keyword@gmail\.com'" \
>"set from = 'emai...@otherdomain.com'"
It's the other way 'round (look at your ' and "):
reply-hook '~h "Delivered-To: +mygmailid\\+keyword@gmail\.com
On 08/07/12 15:52, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
On 07/08/2012 01:13 AM, Roger wrote:
My opinion.
so NO microsoft is not in any position to control the x86 market
I have been watching this thread with interest.
Conversation to date raises, for me, a number of points.
1. None of this would be
On 08.07.2012, suvayu ali wrote:
> PS: If you are wondering, what I took from the thread, it's going to be
> a pain if at some point the optional requirement to secure boot is
> removed.
This reminds me on the past, before the mainboard/BIOS manufacturers
picked it up as an sales-idea: p
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