On 16/06/12 16:46, Ankur Sinha wrote:
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 23:40 -0700, JD wrote:
Another point is that F17 release iso is not going to change
at all by waiting a few months. All the waiting will do is to
accumulate a lot more updates to be installed after installing
the release iso :) :)
Ther
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 23:40 -0700, JD wrote:
> Another point is that F17 release iso is not going to change
> at all by waiting a few months. All the waiting will do is to
> accumulate a lot more updates to be installed after installing
> the release iso :) :)
There may be updated livecds availab
On 06/15/2012 11:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 06/16/2012 02:16 PM, Roger wrote:
After all the hype, problems and dislikes with Fedora 17, I am interested to
know
is it worth fresh installing over Fedora 16 or would it be best to wait a month
or so?
That's a decision you have to make for yours
On 06/16/2012 02:16 PM, Roger wrote:
> After all the hype, problems and dislikes with Fedora 17, I am interested to
> know
> is it worth fresh installing over Fedora 16 or would it be best to wait a
> month or so?
>
That's a decision you have to make for yourself. You've read about all the
"pro
After all the hype, problems and dislikes with Fedora 17, I am
interested to know is it worth fresh installing over Fedora 16 or would
it be best to wait a month or so?
Thanks
Roger
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On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 00:02:03 -0400,
Fedora User wrote:
Pulse 2.0 was released by FDO in mid-May
The release package has become completely unstable for me
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832628). Thought I might
try the rawhide version. You never know - this might actually wor
I agree! After dealing with all the "Conform Or Die" attitudes with
Windows, and all the software vendors who only catered to Windows in the
early years, I can say that Gnome is the absolute best in keeping things
fresh and easy to do, not to mention when I show it to others who are
still sucki
On 06/15/2012 11:02 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
I wonder how the Gnome devs would respond to this: "Large numbers of
our users dislike so much that they're migrating to a
different DE. At this rate, Gnome will soon be a minor niche DE in
Fedora."
They might well just walk away from development. Th
On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 00:02 -0400, Fedora User wrote:
> Pulse 2.0 was released by FDO in mid-May
>
> The release package has become completely unstable for me
> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832628). Thought I might
> try the rawhide version. You never know - this might actually wor
On 6/16/2012 12:32 AM, Kevin Martin wrote:
> On 06/15/2012 03:19 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> I've tried a new profile and no extensions and still see the
>> weirdness with the back button.
>>
>> It may well be gtk as the button normally has a bit of
>> a fancy GUI effect when it is clicked, and no su
On 06/15/2012 03:19 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> I've tried a new profile and no extensions and still see the
> weirdness with the back button.
>
> It may well be gtk as the button normally has a bit of
> a fancy GUI effect when it is clicked, and no such
> effect shows up when it is ignoring it. When
Pulse 2.0 was released by FDO in mid-May
The release package has become completely unstable for me
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832628). Thought I might
try the rawhide version. You never know - this might actually work for a
change.
Hey, we've made some progress. At least freedes
On 06/16/2012 11:52 AM, Fedora User wrote:
> This used to be included in the fedora.repo as "development" but no
> longer. I seem to have forgotten how to configure it. Moreover, the
> servers now have development packages separated by letters of the
> alphabet.
>
If you were to do a simple google
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 12:55 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 23:32 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:18:05 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> >
> > > In F16 once I enter my login name I get a session button but in on my
> > > F17 machine I do not. I have ins
This used to be included in the fedora.repo as "development" but no
longer. I seem to have forgotten how to configure it. Moreover, the
servers now have development packages separated by letters of the
alphabet.
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On 06/16/2012 10:11 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/16/2012 09:55 AM, Jeff Gipson wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 02:13:00AM +0200, Chris wrote:
>>> 2012/6/16 Jeff Gipson :
What is the output of
rpm -q -f /etc/postfix/chroot-update
>>> rpm -q -f /etc/postfix/chroot-update
>>> error: file
On 15Jun2012 12:45, Raymond Pittigher wrote:
| Starting to use Fedora on a system or 2 instead of RHEL5 or 6 and I
| notice that on my NFSv4 mounts I get this
|
| drwx--x---. 28 4294967294 4294967294 4096 Apr 26 2011 user2
That is uid and gid -2, cast to unsigned 32-bit.
I would gue
Don't hijack threads. When you have a new topic, compose a fresh post,
don't just reply to an existing one and change the Subject line.
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On 06/16/2012 09:55 AM, Jeff Gipson wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 02:13:00AM +0200, Chris wrote:
>> 2012/6/16 Jeff Gipson :
>>> What is the output of
>>> rpm -q -f /etc/postfix/chroot-update
>>
>> rpm -q -f /etc/postfix/chroot-update
>> error: file /etc/postfix/chroot-update: No such file or di
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Olav Vitters writes:
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 05:48:28PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Having every appp implement a version of NoSquint makes so much more
> sense than gdm passing through the right option to Xorg!
Do you honestly expect anyone to respond to you? I mean, anyone who
actually bo
2012/6/16 Jeff Gipson :
> Sounds like the error message is quite accurate... that file doesn't
> exist...
>
> What about
> rpm -q -f /usr/lib/systemd/system/postfix.service look like?#
rpm -q -f /usr/lib/systemd/system/postfix.service
postfix-2.9.2-2.fc17.x86_64
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Joe Zeff wrote:
Sooner or later, all of you who are unhappy with various parts of Gnome
3 are going to have to do one of three things
When Fedora 15 just came out, I heard thousands of complaints about Gnome
3. I'm sure a large percentage of people left Gnome altogether. However, I
for o
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 02:13:00AM +0200, Chris wrote:
2012/6/16 Jeff Gipson :
What is the output of
rpm -q -f /etc/postfix/chroot-update
rpm -q -f /etc/postfix/chroot-update
error: file /etc/postfix/chroot-update: No such file or directory
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On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 23:45 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 22:35:32 +0100, John Austin wrote:
>
> > I believe this is just a repo problem
> > The i686 and x86_64 versions are now available
>
> Confirmed via a brief look at dl.fedoraproject.org
>
> However, only Fedora Relea
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:39:47AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> That however is a matter of ensuring a global disable is a feature of the
> configuration that is easy for an admin to use (easier than firewalling
> gnome.org to stop it)
I think that was planned, but I'll check as development goes on.
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 06:20:10PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> Probably by arguing that 99.99% of users who don't actually care won't
> be part of the noise. Which I think is a fair point.
Having a good user testing would be very much appreciated. Meaning:
something that Sun did a lot of years ago. A
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 10:25:44AM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/15/2012 10:20 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
> >Probably by arguing that 99.99% of users who don't actually care won't
> >be part of the noise. Which I think is a fair point.
>
> So, what you're saying is, Gnome 3 is being developed for people
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 05:48:28PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Having every appp implement a version of NoSquint makes so much more
> sense than gdm passing through the right option to Xorg!
Do you honestly expect anyone to respond to you? I mean, anyone who
actually bothers to makes changes?
On 06/15/2012 08:35 PM, Edward M wrote:
On 06/15/2012 05:11 PM, Jim wrote:
There is a website on FedoraProject explaining howto troubleshoot a
non working printer, does any know how I can find it ?
i have this bookmarked
is this it:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_printi
On 06/15/2012 05:11 PM, Jim wrote:
There is a website on FedoraProject explaining howto troubleshoot a
non working printer, does any know how I can find it ?
i have this bookmarked
is this it:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_printing_problems
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2012/6/16 Jeff Gipson :
> What is the output of
> rpm -q -f /etc/postfix/chroot-update
rpm -q -f /etc/postfix/chroot-update
error: file /etc/postfix/chroot-update: No such file or directory
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working printer, does any know how I can find it ?
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On 06/15/2012 04:24 PM, Kernel Guardian wrote:
hmmm with bluetooth device equipped I assume. :)
Sorry. My laptop has neither built-in bluetooth
nor have I attached a usb bluetooth. So, guess
my situation is not as complicated :)
Already discuss about suspending on laptops in this mail list. I
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:18:55PM +0200, Chris wrote:
2012/6/15 Jeff Gipson :
Is this F15, F16 or F17? I use postfix and have no
/etc/postfix/chroot-update. Are you using the postfix package from Fedora,
or did you go third party?
Hi,
Fedora 17 package, fresh new install with standard confi
hmmm with bluetooth device equipped I assume. :)
Already discuss about suspending on laptops in this mail list. I use
this script for suspending laptops.
It is tested against F16 on asus laptops.
== /etc/pm/sleep.d/custom-ehci-hcd =
#!/bin/sh
# inspired by http://art.ub
Am 16.06.2012 00:42, schrieb Geoffrey Leach:
> On 06/14/2012 03:25:25 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>> Where do you find a 64bit version of Adobe Reader?
>
> Not strictly an answer, but (given that the 64bit does not exist) why
> would you not use 32bit-compatibility libraries?
for viewing PDFs? jo
Thanks Aaron, but there are still "alternatives" right?I just want
to make sure I'll always have "options"!
EGO II
On 06/15/2012 11:21 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 13:57 -0400, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
Thanks so much, but now I have yet another "stoopid" quest
On 16 June 2012 00:43, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>
> Reindl Harald writes:
>
>> sounds like the same as KDE4.0 and Nvidia some years ago
>>
>> Developers: "nooo Nvidia is the problem not KDE4.0"
>> Users: "But why is KDE3.x and other Desktops working"
>> Developers: "The are doing some hacks to
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 23:32 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:18:05 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>
> > In F16 once I enter my login name I get a session button but in on my
> > F17 machine I do not. I have installed the groups XFCE Software
> > Development and xfce but no ses
On 15 June 2012 20:53, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/15/2012 11:37 AM, Kernel Guardian wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately after GNOME 3, many of them have a problems, especially
>> hardware issues, to run latest Fedora versions. Almost half of them give
>> up from Linux because hardware incompatibility or lack
On 06/15/2012 03:34 PM, Kernel Guardian wrote:
laptop or desktop? at least my 3 desktops hibernate with power off at
the end. laptops is different story.
F16 with latest updates on all comps.
seems that kernel couldn't power off some device. on laptops have
problems with usb hubs and usb device
Reindl Harald writes:
sounds like the same as KDE4.0 and Nvidia some years ago
Developers: "nooo Nvidia is the problem not KDE4.0"
Users: "But why is KDE3.x and other Desktops working"
Developers: "The are doing some hacks to work"
Users: "Why do you not the same"
Developers: "Becasue
On 06/14/2012 03:25:25 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> Where do you find a 64bit version of Adobe Reader?
Not strictly an answer, but (given that the 64bit does not exist) why
would you not use 32bit-compatibility libraries?
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laptop or desktop? at least my 3 desktops hibernate with power off at the
end. laptops is different story.
F16 with latest updates on all comps.
seems that kernel couldn't power off some device. on laptops have problems
with usb hubs and usb devices.
On 15 June 2012 23:57, JD wrote:
> f16 hiber
On 06/15/2012 03:09 PM, JD wrote:
After yum update, kernel-3.3.8-1.fc16.i686 was brought in.
When I rebooted this morning into the new kernel, kernel
panic'ed because it was unable to mount root by it's uuid.
I had opened a bug at bugzilla.redhat.com against
kernel-3.3.5-2.fc16.i686, which panic'
After yum update, kernel-3.3.8-1.fc16.i686 was brought in.
When I rebooted this morning into the new kernel, kernel
panic'ed because it was unable to mount root by it's uuid.
I had opened a bug at bugzilla.redhat.com against
kernel-3.3.5-2.fc16.i686, which panic'ed in the same way,
but that bug ha
Am 15.06.2012 23:48, schrieb Sam Varshavchik:
> Understood. It took me a while, but I was finally enlightened. I finally
> figured out why it's not really a bug –
> it's because NoSquint can be easily installed in Firefox. Looks like most
> folks affected by this have figured out
> the workaro
f16 hibernate halts the machine but
leaves it powered on.
Is there a workaround?
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Olav Vitters writes:
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 08:27:22AM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Olav Vitters writes:
>
> >You're very demanding and call people "royal highnesses". Sure seems
> >like you seem obliged that people do what you think is right (other
> >idea? wrong!) on a timeframe that you t
On 06/15/2012 05:07 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
Yep - either in with the system fonts or into ~/.fonts.
I would keep it to the ones you use as having 7000 fonts in the gimp font
dialog gets a bit unmanagable.
On 06/15/2012 05:05 PM, ratboy666 wrote:
Yes, you can
Try
cd ~
mkdir .fonts
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 22:35:32 +0100, John Austin wrote:
> I believe this is just a repo problem
> The i686 and x86_64 versions are now available
Confirmed via a brief look at dl.fedoraproject.org
However, only Fedora Release Engineering could explain what has happened
in this particular case and
I believe this is just a repo problem
The i686 and x86_64 versions are now available
ja@avon ~ 1$ rpm -qa|grep redhat-lsb
redhat-lsb-core-4.1-4.fc17.i686
redhat-lsb-cxx-4.1-4.fc17.i686
redhat-lsb-submod-multimedia-4.1-4.fc17.x86_64
redhat-lsb-languages-4.1-4.fc17.x86_64
redhat-lsb-4.1-4.fc17.i686
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:18:05 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> In F16 once I enter my login name I get a session button but in on my
> F17 machine I do not. I have installed the groups XFCE Software
> Development and xfce but no session choice button appears. How can this
> be fixed?
Can't reproduce.
On 06/15/2012 03:41 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
I would recommend installing the MS Core fonts anyway
I can do that.
if you tend to use them a lot but that's only a few fonts, no where
near 7000. Additionally I'm not sure you'd want to install all 7000,
that could slow things down a bit.
I only
I think that in some place into the gnome desktop you can configure the
multisession option
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2012/6/15 Jeff Gipson :
> Is this F15, F16 or F17? I use postfix and have no
> /etc/postfix/chroot-update. Are you using the postfix package from Fedora,
> or did you go third party?
Hi,
Fedora 17 package, fresh new install with standard config.
# rpm -qi postfix
Name: postfix
Epoch
On 06/16/2012 12:45 AM, Raymond Pittigher wrote:
>
>
>
> Starting to use Fedora on a system or 2 instead of RHEL5 or 6 and I
> notice that on my NFSv4 mounts I get this
>
> drwx--x---. 28 4294967294 4294967294 4096 Apr 26 2011 user2
> drwx--x---. 39 users1 user14096 Apr 26
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 15:05 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Aaron Konstam said:
> > Has any one else noticed that the server of 64 bit rpms is essentially
> > "dead inn the water"? Everyone and his first cousin must be downloading
> > 64 bit rpms.
>
> Not sure what you mean. First
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:01:18 -0700 (PDT), ratboy666 wrote:
> Jonathon
>
> You have the Google Chrome Browser installed.
What a weird theory!
The problem has nothing to do with that browser at all!
The multilib update conflicts affects anyone who has redhat-lsb.i686 *and*
redhat-lsb.x86_64 insta
Yes, you can
Try
cd ~
mkdir .fonts
Now, you just have to copy the fonts to ~/.fonts (~ is your home directory,
say /home/fred/.fonts)
Any fonts copied there are immediately usable.
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:31:57 -0400
NRL wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> This is more than likely a dumb question but I have to ask. I just moved
> from Windows to Fedora a few months ago so I'm a newbie here. My stupid
> question is this, can I use Windows TTF fonts in Fedora? I have about
> 7,000 fonts
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 09:20:12PM +0200, Chris wrote:
Hi,
I get this error with postfix and systemd:
systemd[809]: Failed at step EXEC spawning /etc/postfix/chroot-update:
No such file or directory
# service postfix status | grep chroot-update
Redirecting to /bin/systemctl status postfix.ser
Jonathon
You have the Google Chrome Browser installed. Please uninstall it:
sudo yum erase google-chrome
then, update your system
sudo yum update
(which will update redhat-lsb). After the update completes, you can
reinstall Chrome
sudo yum install google-chrome
Please note that y
I am struggling to get redmine 2.0.2 (http://www.redmine.org/) working
on a Fedora 17 box with selinux turned on. I know there is a
long-standing review request for rubygem-passenger
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470696), but it is hung up
over a licensing issue. Is there a sel
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:15:33 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> Yum upgrade reports that redhat-lsb needs to be updated, but can't
> because of a an error, to wit:
> > Protected multilib versions: redhat-lsb-4.1-4.fc17.x86_64 !=
> > redhat-lsb-4.0-11.fc17.i686
> What's going on? Can I fix it, or m
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 13:57 -0400, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
> Thanks so much, but now I have yet another "stoopid" question: How do I
> "update" my system to F17 without losing all of my files, folders,
> applications etc? I've amassed quite a bit of "fluff" using Fedora and
> I'd hate to h
I've tried a new profile and no extensions and still see the
weirdness with the back button.
It may well be gtk as the button normally has a bit of
a fancy GUI effect when it is clicked, and no such
effect shows up when it is ignoring it. When it finally
does react to the button, I see both the bu
In F16 once I enter my login name I get a session button but in on my
F17 machine I do not. I have installed the groups XFCE Software
Development and xfce but no session choice button appears. How can this
be fixed?
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Yum upgrade reports that redhat-lsb needs to be updated, but can't
because of a an error, to wit:
> Protected multilib versions: redhat-lsb-4.1-4.fc17.x86_64 !=
> redhat-lsb-4.0-11.fc17.i686
What's going on? Can I fix it, or must I wait on the repo managers? If
the repo managers, when will a fix
On 15/06/12 15:02, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 14.06.2012, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
Two items I can't get to work are logging and saving the log
information, and filtering access restrictions. Denial of access
appears to work but not the filter function.
You could install
F17-KDE , Fresh Install
Using Nvidia card with Nouveau driver.
The highest resolution I can get is 1024x768 that doesn't help for full
Horzontal deflection on my Monitor.
I need at least a 1280x768.
I had this problem in F15 also, except for one kernal I had installed, I
could get the 1280x
Once upon a time, Aaron Konstam said:
> Has any one else noticed that the server of 64 bit rpms is essentially
> "dead inn the water"? Everyone and his first cousin must be downloading
> 64 bit rpms.
Not sure what you mean. First, there's a whole network of mirrors, so
"the mirror" is pretty mea
Has any one else noticed that the server of 64 bit rpms is essentially
"dead inn the water"? Everyone and his first cousin must be downloading
64 bit rpms.
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On 06/15/2012 06:52 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
Are we gonna go out there in a massive protest we want shutdown natively in
GNOME, we want shutdown in GNOME without alt, ..., etc? seems unlikely. Now
Mr. Obama may lock us up for disturbing the peace and detain us indefinitely
using NDAA :
I have a Dell XPS laptop which worked fine under Fedora 16. I recently
upgraded to Fedora 17 and the wireless network performance has
degraded significantly. It seems to work well when first started up,
but once I've transferred a reasonable amount of data, the throughput
drops to a trickle until i
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>
> Have you guys tried safe mode? New profile? The new "reset"
> functionality in 13? (the mode that is meant to troubleshoot "My FF is
> broken!" posts like this)
I can't find the reset feature on my FF 13 (from the repos). I looked
in
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 2:31 PM, NRL wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> This is more than likely a dumb question but I have to ask. I just moved
> from Windows to Fedora a few months ago so I'm a newbie here. My stupid
> question is this, can I use Windows TTF fonts in Fedora? I have about 7,000
> fonts to choos
Hi,
This is more than likely a dumb question but I have to ask. I just moved
from Windows to Fedora a few months ago so I'm a newbie here. My stupid
question is this, can I use Windows TTF fonts in Fedora? I have about
7,000 fonts to choose from on a DVD. Can I just drag and drop a font
int
Hi,
I get this error with postfix and systemd:
systemd[809]: Failed at step EXEC spawning /etc/postfix/chroot-update:
No such file or directory
# service postfix status | grep chroot-update
Redirecting to /bin/systemctl status postfix.service
Process: 809 ExecStartPre=/etc/postfix/chro
I'm running firefox-13.0-1.fc17.x86_64 and does not confirm this problem.
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On 14.06.2012, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
>Two items I can't get to work are logging and saving the log
>information, and filtering access restrictions. Denial of access
>appears to work but not the filter function.
You could install Tomato 1.28, where all this works..
Oh I KNOW.I was just telling someone that same thing. I have been a
Windows Admin for quite some years, as a matter of fat I had been using
it since Windows 3."X" and through all it's variations,
'95.'98.2K.XPVista (what a piece of junk THAT was!( and
most recently 7. I just
On 06/15/2012 11:37 AM, Kernel Guardian wrote:
Unfortunately after GNOME 3, many of them have a problems, especially
hardware issues, to run latest Fedora versions. Almost half of them give
up from Linux because hardware incompatibility or lack of technical
skills to make GUI usable and user frie
On 06/15/2012 10:50 AM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
And I hope they leave Gnome alone! This stuff ROCKS!LoL! (Can you
tell I'm still a noobie in regards to Linux in general!?) :o)
I'm very pleased to see that you're happy with the way Gnome currently
works. Clearly, you're part of their
Thank you for bugzilla link.
Maybe it would be good for Fedora (and other Linux distributions) to help
Mint developers in advancement Cinnamon as gnome-shell replacement in GNOME
3 environment.
Since it is impossible to influence the development of gnome-shell it would
be nice to have some replacem
On 06/15/2012 10:40 AM, Mike Wohlgemuth wrote:
On 06/15/2012 01:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
I wonder how the Gnome devs would respond to this: "Large numbers of
our users dislike so much that they're migrating to a
different DE. At this rate, Gnome will soon be a minor niche DE in
Fedora."
If you h
Cool! Thanx again Jayson! I'll check out the link and let you know how
it goes!!
EGO II
On 06/15/2012 02:02 PM, Jayson Rowe wrote:
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I
wrote:
Thanks so much, but now I have yet another "stoopid" question:
There is no such thing as 'stupid
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I
wrote:
> Thanks so much, but now I have yet another "stoopid" question:
There is no such thing as 'stupid questions' :)
> How do I "update" my system to F17 without losing all of my files, folders,
> applications etc? I've amassed quite a b
Thanks so much, but now I have yet another "stoopid" question: How do I
"update" my system to F17 without losing all of my files, folders,
applications etc? I've amassed quite a bit of "fluff" using Fedora and
I'd hate to have to try and search them out again. Also I read somewhere
that Adobe i
I hope that NEVER happens! I'm coming from a Windows shop, and I've been
"stuck" with Microsoft's opinion of what I would like from what I
WOULDN'T like for SO long now (since Windows 3.1!!), that Fedora is a
breath of fresh air! Everything is new, different, and interesting.
Granted there are
On 06/15/2012 01:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
I wonder how the Gnome devs would respond to this: "Large numbers of
our users dislike so much that they're migrating to a
different DE. At this rate, Gnome will soon be a minor niche DE in
Fedora."
If you have any hard data about that, I'd love to see
As I see it, Fedora is head & shoulders above "Windows "X" crowd! It
might not be pretty, or as effective as something that's existed before,
but for the money (NONE!..LoL!) Fedora is AWESOME! I too had to get used
to the Gnome 3 desktop environment, but I now LOVE it! I move around in
it intu
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:36:27 -0500
Aaron Konstam wrote:
> I installed XFCE but I can't see where you can choose it when you
> login.
Select your username first, then there should be a 'sessions' menu
where you can choose Xfce.
kevin
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I installed XFCE but I can't see where you can choose it when you login.
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On 06/15/2012 10:20 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
Probably by arguing that 99.99% of users who don't actually care won't
be part of the noise. Which I think is a fair point.
So, what you're saying is, Gnome 3 is being developed for people who
don't care what the devs do and will accept any changes they
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I
wrote:
> I just tried the yum install, AND the link given, when I tried yu,m it said
> it couldn;t find the repository at .../fedora.gimp, and when I went to the
> link there's a banner at the top of my browser saying that I'd have to
> update
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:07:22 -0700
Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/15/2012 06:21 AM, Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan wrote:
> > "Our users are unhappy with " would not seem to be a
> > persuasive argument to them.
>
> I wonder how the Gnome devs would respond to this: "Large numbers of our
> users dislike so m
I just tried the yum install, AND the link given, when I tried yu,m it
said it couldn;t find the repository at .../fedora.gimp, and when I went
to the link there's a banner at the top of my browser saying that I'd
have to update to the latest version of Gnome3, my question is, I'm
running Fedor
On 06/15/2012 06:21 AM, Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan wrote:
"Our users are unhappy with " would not seem to be a
persuasive argument to them.
I wonder how the Gnome devs would respond to this: "Large numbers of our
users dislike so much that they're migrating to a different
DE. At this rate, Gnom
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