way to flush /var/log/message

2012-05-19 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Hello: Is there a way to flush output to /etc/log/message so a tail -f catches things when they happen rather than what I think I am seeing as a buffer hold-until-full delay? Thanks in advance, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription opti

Re: Package ode for Octave

2012-05-19 Thread antonio montagnani
Il 19/05/2012 23:11, antonio montagnani ha scritto: Where can I find the odepkg rpm for Octave. Any idea?? Tnx Just for clarification: 1) this package is a package for solving ordinary differential equations and more. 2) can't be installed from user inside octave by command pkg install 3)

Re: ssh between F16 Xfce and Cygwin

2012-05-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/20/2012 12:38 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On the telnet cygwin 22, I am getting Connection refused. And I just verified > again > that a ping works. The "telnet" operation is at the application layer. Connection refused is telling you that the "sshd" equivalent on the cygwin system is

Re: ssh between F16 Xfce and Cygwin

2012-05-19 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 5/19/2012 9:29 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: To sum things up Cygwin > via ssh to 3 X F16 systems All OK. 3 X F16 systems > Cygwin via ssh All Fail. Yes? On an F16 system telnet cygwin 22 results in "Connection refused" Yes? If that is correct, then the problem lies on y

Re: ssh between F16 Xfce and Cygwin

2012-05-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/20/2012 11:08 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Prior to 26apr12, I was able to run ssh/scp between my 2 F16 Xfce boxes, a F14 > Gnome box, and Cygwin running on an XP box. > > Today I was converting the F14 to F16 Xfce and noticed that I could no longer > ssh > into the Cygwin XP box. I checke

Re: ssh between F16 Xfce and Cygwin

2012-05-19 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 5/19/2012 8:28 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/19/2012 08:08 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Since the problem "appears" to be on the F16 side, I wanted to ask this list if anyone has any suggestions. If you can ssh from any one of the F16 boxes to any other, the issue is on the Cygwin box. Joe:

Re: audio notification from system

2012-05-19 Thread JD
On 05/19/2012 03:30 PM, Frank Cox wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:28:12 -0700 JD wrote: When I mute the speakers, the sound disappears. If it's an electrical problem that causes the speakers to crackle, i.e. hardware, muting the speakers could also make the sound go away. So you haven't elimina

Re: audio notification from system

2012-05-19 Thread JD
On 05/19/2012 02:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/20/2012 05:04 AM, JD wrote: At this point I am willing to try all good suggestions, your included. 2 ideas. 1. Create a new user and login as that user. This should eliminate a per user setting. 2. Boot a LiveCDusing the spin of the

Re: ssh between F16 Xfce and Cygwin

2012-05-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/19/2012 08:08 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Since the problem "appears" to be on the F16 side, I wanted to ask this list if anyone has any suggestions. If you can ssh from any one of the F16 boxes to any other, the issue is on the Cygwin box. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproje

Re: Fedora 16 continously rebooting

2012-05-19 Thread Armelius Cameron
On Saturday, May 19, 2012 08:42:07 PM Mark C. Allman wrote: > On Sat, 2012-05-19 at 10:55 -0400, Armelius Cameron wrote: > > On Saturday, May 19, 2012 10:00:44 am Pedro Francisco wrote: > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Armelius Cameron > > > > wrote: > > > > (...) > > > > I tried running li

ssh between F16 Xfce and Cygwin

2012-05-19 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Hello: Prior to 26apr12, I was able to run ssh/scp between my 2 F16 Xfce boxes, a F14 Gnome box, and Cygwin running on an XP box. Today I was converting the F14 to F16 Xfce and noticed that I could no longer ssh into the Cygwin XP box. I checked the other two F16 boxes and they couldn't eith

Re: Fedora 16 continously rebooting

2012-05-19 Thread Mark C. Allman
On Sat, 2012-05-19 at 10:55 -0400, Armelius Cameron wrote: > On Saturday, May 19, 2012 10:00:44 am Pedro Francisco wrote: > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Armelius Cameron > wrote: > > > (...) > > > I tried running linux rescue with F16 boot disk, chroot to the > > > installation root, update

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread Max Pyziur
On Sat, 19 May 2012, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/19/2012 01:44 PM, Max Pyziur wrote: My current dilemma is trying to rescue the upgrade on this machine. Can you help with that? I had an "upgrade" from F14 to F16 hang. Can you boot into the upgrade kernel again and let it try again? You'll prob

Re: audio notification from system

2012-05-19 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:28:12 -0700 JD wrote: > When I mute the speakers, > the sound disappears. If it's an electrical problem that causes the speakers to crackle, i.e. hardware, muting the speakers could also make the sound go away. So you haven't eliminated hardware as the issue yet. -- MELV

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread David
On 5/19/2012 4:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/19/2012 01:22 PM, David wrote: >> First. I was not trying to be nasty when I answered your comment. Your's >> would have more or less duplicated 3-4 others. > > I didn't think you were, although the way you phrased it was a tad > sarky. Not your fault

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread David
On 5/19/2012 4:44 PM, Max Pyziur wrote: > On Sat, 19 May 2012, David wrote: > >> On 5/19/2012 10:08 AM, Max Pyziur wrote: >>> >>> Greeting, >>> >>> I'm upgrading from F14 to F15 on an x64 system. (I've been doing so >>> successfully since 2007). >>> >>> However, on this go-around the screen went b

Re: audio notification from system

2012-05-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/20/2012 05:04 AM, JD wrote: > At this point I am willing to try all good suggestions, > your included. 2 ideas. 1. Create a new user and login as that user. This should eliminate a per user setting. 2. Boot a LiveCDusing the spin of the DE you are using. -- Never be afraid

Package ode for Octave

2012-05-19 Thread antonio montagnani
Where can I find the odepkg rpm for Octave. Any idea?? Tnx -- Antonio Montagnani Fedora 17 Beta Acer 5670 http://www.campingmonterosa.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mai

Re: audio notification from system

2012-05-19 Thread JD
On 05/19/2012 01:53 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/19/2012 01:28 PM, JD wrote: When I mute the speakers, the sound disappears. Open a terminal and run this command as root: tail -f /var/log/messages and see if anything pops up there at about the same time as the sound. If not, try this as yourse

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread Max Pyziur
On Sat, 19 May 2012, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/19/2012 01:44 PM, Max Pyziur wrote: My current dilemma is trying to rescue the upgrade on this machine. Can you help with that? I had an "upgrade" from F14 to F16 hang. Can you boot into the upgrade kernel again and let it try again? You'll prob

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Max Pyziur wrote: > On Sat, 19 May 2012, David wrote: > >> On 5/19/2012 10:08 AM, Max Pyziur wrote: >>> >>> >>> Greeting, >>> >>> I'm upgrading from F14 to F15 on an x64 system. (I've been doing so >>> successfully since 2007). >>> >>> However, on this go-around t

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/19/2012 01:44 PM, Max Pyziur wrote: My current dilemma is trying to rescue the upgrade on this machine. Can you help with that? I had an "upgrade" from F14 to F16 hang. Can you boot into the upgrade kernel again and let it try again? You'll probably have to do lots and lots of cleanup

Re: audio notification from system

2012-05-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/19/2012 01:28 PM, JD wrote: When I mute the speakers, the sound disappears. Open a terminal and run this command as root: tail -f /var/log/messages and see if anything pops up there at about the same time as the sound. If not, try this as yourself: tail -f ~/.xsession-errors to see

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/19/2012 01:22 PM, David wrote: First. I was not trying to be nasty when I answered your comment. Your's would have more or less duplicated 3-4 others. I didn't think you were, although the way you phrased it was a tad sarky. Not your fault, and I wasn't offended. The latter part of my

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread Max Pyziur
On Sat, 19 May 2012, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: Also: did you upgrade via preupgrade or an installation disc? If the latter, did you verify the checksum and check disc integrity before using it? I verified it. MP p...@brama.com On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Max Pyziur wrote: Greetin

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread Max Pyziur
On Sat, 19 May 2012, David wrote: On 5/19/2012 10:08 AM, Max Pyziur wrote: Greeting, I'm upgrading from F14 to F15 on an x64 system. (I've been doing so successfully since 2007). However, on this go-around the screen went blank during "clean-up" and the mouse became unresponsive. Any sugges

Re: OpenOffice vs LibreOffice

2012-05-19 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/19/2012 09:50 AM, Greg Woods wrote: So it will not be too long before LibreOffice leaves OpenOffice behind IMHO. It probably already has: http://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2012-04-26-ooo-comparison.html -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subsc

Re: audio notification from system

2012-05-19 Thread JD
On 05/19/2012 09:51 AM, Frank Cox wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2012 08:33:38 -0700 JD wrote: Well, it is kinda starting to sound more like a hardware issue. I suppose I've assumed you've eliminated that You can always go to /usr/share/sounds and play all that is there to find if any match. Pla

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread David
On 5/19/2012 4:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/19/2012 01:01 PM, David wrote: >> Grep the thread. > > I don't allow Thunderbird to thread my email; I read it in chronological > order and reply as I read. Thus, I may, as in this case, be adding my > comments to a thread long after it's been resolve

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/19/2012 01:01 PM, David wrote: Grep the thread. I don't allow Thunderbird to thread my email; I read it in chronological order and reply as I read. Thus, I may, as in this case, be adding my comments to a thread long after it's been resolved. This is most likely to happen in the morn

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread David
On 5/19/2012 3:53 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/19/2012 12:11 PM, David wrote: >> Why did you update from a long time EOL release of Fedora, Fedora 14, >> to another long time EOL release of Fedora, Fedora 15? > > F15 won't reach EOL until about a month after F17 comes out. Still, > going to F16 di

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread David
On 5/19/2012 3:55 PM, Edward M wrote: > On 05/19/2012 12:44 PM, David wrote: >> Fedora 17 release May 22, 2012 > >Apparently that was changed to May 29 > > > > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2012-May/000930.html > Ah. I see. I run Rawhide so I really don't

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/19/2012 12:11 PM, David wrote: Why did you update from a long time EOL release of Fedora, Fedora 14, to another long time EOL release of Fedora, Fedora 15? F15 won't reach EOL until about a month after F17 comes out. Still, going to F16 directly would probably have been better. -- user

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread Edward M
On 05/19/2012 12:44 PM, David wrote: Fedora 17 release May 22, 2012 Apparently that was changed to May 29 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2012-May/000930.html -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: ht

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread David
On 5/19/2012 3:46 PM, Edward M wrote: > On 05/19/2012 12:11 PM, David wrote: >> Why did you update from a long time EOL release of Fedora, Fedora 14, >> to another long time EOL release of Fedora, Fedora 15? > > Don't think Fedora 15 has reached EOL as of yet, until month after > Fedora 17 is r

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread Edward M
On 05/19/2012 12:11 PM, David wrote: Why did you update from a long time EOL release of Fedora, Fedora 14, to another long time EOL release of Fedora, Fedora 15? Don't think Fedora 15 has reached EOL as of yet, until month after Fedora 17 is release on May 29.: apparently from there he

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread David
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 5/19/2012 3:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 19.05.2012 21:11, schrieb David: >> Why did you update from a long time EOL release of Fedora, Fedora >> 14, to another long time EOL release of Fed

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
Also: did you upgrade via preupgrade or an installation disc? If the latter, did you verify the checksum and check disc integrity before using it? On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Max Pyziur wrote: > > Greeting, > > I'm upgrading from F14 to F15 on an x64 system. (I've been doing so > successfull

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup - followup 1

2012-05-19 Thread Edward M
On 05/19/2012 07:26 AM, Max Pyziur wrote: hen the machine begins booting, it stops with the following: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) I saw this problem mentioned in the forum. Appears user solved it with tips that were given there. htt

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
I had similar problems going F16->F17B, but I was able to resolve it after the first boot by running yum distro-sync (testing updates repository disabled). I am still using the same install, and it works very well. I am a little puzzled as to why you are trying to upgrade to F15 though, since it w

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.05.2012 21:11, schrieb David: > Why did you update from a long time EOL release of Fedora, Fedora 14, > to another long time EOL release of Fedora, Fedora 15? are you living in the future? i can not remember the realease announce of F17 guess: because he should not try upgrade from F14 di

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread David
On 5/19/2012 10:08 AM, Max Pyziur wrote: > > Greeting, > > I'm upgrading from F14 to F15 on an x64 system. (I've been doing so > successfully since 2007). > > However, on this go-around the screen went blank during "clean-up" and > the mouse became unresponsive. > > Any suggestions would be app

Re: The death of Hibernate?

2012-05-19 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/19/2012 05:48 AM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: >> >> As for desktops, it should be noted of course that the one-piece iMac >> is a very different concept than a standard case-monitor desktop. > > > But not, by any means, a new one.  To me it

Re: The death of Hibernate?

2012-05-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/19/2012 05:48 AM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: As for desktops, it should be noted of course that the one-piece iMac is a very different concept than a standard case-monitor desktop. But not, by any means, a new one. To me it looks like a modern version of a typical CP/M machine of the

Re: OpenOffice vs LibreOffice

2012-05-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/19/2012 11:00 PM, Edward M wrote: > On 05/19/2012 09:50 AM, Greg Woods wrote: >> but since Apache projects cannot use GPL-licensed code, the >> reverse is not true. So it will not be too long before LibreOffice >> leaves OpenOffice behind IMHO. > > I thought Apache license 2 was compati

Re: OpenOffice vs LibreOffice

2012-05-19 Thread Edward M
On 05/19/2012 10:30 AM, Edward M wrote: On 05/19/2012 09:50 AM, Greg Woods wrote: but since Apache projects cannot use GPL-licensed code, the reverse is not true. So it will not be too long before LibreOffice leaves OpenOffice behind IMHO. I thought Apache license 2 was compatible with GP

Re: OpenOffice vs LibreOffice

2012-05-19 Thread Edward M
On 05/19/2012 09:50 AM, Greg Woods wrote: but since Apache projects cannot use GPL-licensed code, the reverse is not true. So it will not be too long before LibreOffice leaves OpenOffice behind IMHO. I thought Apache license 2 was compatible with GPLv3. According to wikipedia libreof

Re: audio notification from system

2012-05-19 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 19 May 2012 08:33:38 -0700 JD wrote: > > Well, it is kinda starting to sound more like a hardware issue. I suppose > > I've assumed you've eliminated that > > > > You can always go to /usr/share/sounds and play all that is there to find > > if any match. > > > Played all of them in 5

Re: OpenOffice vs LibreOffice

2012-05-19 Thread Greg Woods
On Fri, 2012-05-18 at 22:17 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 18/05/12 20:32, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >> Alan Cox wrote: > >> OpenOffice then got given to Apache in > >> what a lot of people consider a face saving exercise. > > > > I guess what puzzles me is why Apache took it. > > Does it have a di

Consider donating some CPU cycles to Alzheimer research

2012-05-19 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
Many of you have probably already heard about the Folding@Home research initiative by Stanford University: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/HomePage I set it up on my F17 desktop today, and it works well so far. Unfortunately the visualizer and GUI do not work due to a Python problem (ticket e

Re: audio notification from system

2012-05-19 Thread JD
On 05/19/2012 02:16 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/19/2012 04:50 PM, JD wrote: No, I played the sound file you mention. The rattle I hear is like RRR It is kind of faint, and fades quickly to silence - has that rattle I am trying to express with the sound of the letter R as the Scots roll their

Re: Tasque Dependency Failure

2012-05-19 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:04:41 -0400, RH (Richard) wrote: > > Try to install tasque I get: > > /home/rgheck/ > sudo yum install tasque > [snip] > --> Running transaction check > ---> Package mono-extras.x86_64 0:2.10.5-1.fc16 will be installed > ---> Package mono-winforms.x86_64 0:2.10.5-1.fc16 w

Re: audio notification from system

2012-05-19 Thread JD
On 05/19/2012 02:10 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/19/2012 01:50 AM, JD wrote: While typing this message, I laptop made that sound 3 times. frikin' thing is annoying! Mute your system sounds. If you still hear it, it's hardware. I have done that. It is an audio sound. -- users mailing list use

Tasque Dependency Failure

2012-05-19 Thread Richard Heck
Try to install tasque I get: /home/rgheck/ > sudo yum install tasque [snip] --> Running transaction check ---> Package mono-extras.x86_64 0:2.10.5-1.fc16 will be installed ---> Package mono-winforms.x86_64 0:2.10.5-1.fc16 will be installed ---> Package mono-winfx.x86_64 0:2.10.5-1.fc16 will be

Re: Fedora 16 continously rebooting

2012-05-19 Thread Armelius Cameron
On Saturday, May 19, 2012 10:00:44 am Pedro Francisco wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Armelius Cameron wrote: > > (...) > > I tried running linux rescue with F16 boot disk, chroot to the > > installation root, updated the system, and reboot. And this continuous > > rebooting happens aga

Re: Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup - followup 1

2012-05-19 Thread Max Pyziur
On Sat, 19 May 2012, Max Pyziur wrote: Greeting, I'm upgrading from F14 to F15 on an x64 system. (I've been doing so successfully since 2007). However, on this go-around the screen went blank during "clean-up" and the mouse became unresponsive. Any suggestions would be appreciated. To

Upgrading F14->F15 on x64 - system freezes during cleanup

2012-05-19 Thread Max Pyziur
Greeting, I'm upgrading from F14 to F15 on an x64 system. (I've been doing so successfully since 2007). However, on this go-around the screen went blank during "clean-up" and the mouse became unresponsive. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- users m

Re: Fedora 16 continously rebooting

2012-05-19 Thread Pedro Francisco
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Armelius Cameron wrote: > (...) > I tried running linux rescue with F16 boot disk, chroot to the installation > root, updated the system, and reboot. And this continuous rebooting happens > again. Is Yum working properly? No complaining of bad database state? I wa

Re: The death of Hibernate?

2012-05-19 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 19.05.2012 13:47, schrieb Dave Ihnat: >> Actually, there's a bit of misconception here.  Yes, you can find machines >> with marginal configurations that may have the same processor as a Macbook >> Pro that appear to be very much cheape

Re: Fedora 16 continously rebooting

2012-05-19 Thread Armelius Cameron
On Saturday, May 19, 2012 08:07:20 am Alan Cox wrote: > > This is where the strangeness started. I was able to boot it back, but > > then it keeps rebooting after the boot process is done. > > First thing I would do is boot the live CD image<...> > > Also see how stable the box i running the live

Re: The death of Hibernate?

2012-05-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.05.2012 13:47, schrieb Dave Ihnat: > Actually, there's a bit of misconception here. Yes, you can find machines > with marginal configurations that may have the same processor as a Macbook > Pro that appear to be very much cheaper. > > But they have less or slower memory, less capable/slow

Re: Fedora 16 continously rebooting

2012-05-19 Thread Alan Cox
> This is where the strangeness started. I was able to boot it back, but then > it > keeps rebooting after the boot process is done. It would get to the state > where I need to log in, and within several second, it would reboot itself. > This happens over and over. First thing I would do is bo

Re: The death of Hibernate?

2012-05-19 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:34:31AM +0200, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > Seems to me Apple has been doing this masterfully for years now. How > much better is a $2000 Macbook Pro as opposed to a HP laptop with the > same processor? Actually, there's a bit of misconception here. Yes, you can find

Re: Fedora 16 continously rebooting

2012-05-19 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 19.05.2012, Armelius Cameron wrote: > I am running out of ideas. The only thing left is to completely re-install, > and I don't really want to do that right now as I have lots of stuff there > already. So, any help would be greatly appreciated. A shot in the dark, because this solved a simi

Re: audio notification from system

2012-05-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/19/2012 04:50 PM, JD wrote: > No, I played the sound file you mention. > The rattle I hear is like RRR > It is kind of faint, and fades quickly to silence - has that > rattle I am trying to express with the sound of the letter > R as the Scots roll their R's. > In school, we uses to use o

Re: audio notification from system

2012-05-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/19/2012 01:50 AM, JD wrote: While typing this message, I laptop made that sound 3 times. frikin' thing is annoying! Mute your system sounds. If you still hear it, it's hardware. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://a

Re: audio notification from system

2012-05-19 Thread JD
On 05/18/2012 07:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/19/2012 09:37 AM, JD wrote: I looked at Settings->Appearance->Settings->Event Sounds It is not checked. I continue to get this rattle sound being played many times while system is up and running. I checked thunderbird, and it has all it's even noti

Re: The death of Hibernate?

2012-05-19 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 19.05.2012, James Wilkinson wrote: > >> I bet that Asus netbook is based on an Atom processor and an Intel >> chipset, and whatever else you might say about Intel (and who doesn’t?), >> they still (mostly) remember the twenty-year-old Pentiu

Re: The death of Hibernate?

2012-05-19 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 19.05.2012, James Wilkinson wrote: > I bet that Asus netbook is based on an Atom processor and an Intel > chipset, and whatever else you might say about Intel (and who doesn’t?), > they still (mostly) remember the twenty-year-old Pentium lesson that if > it’s got their name on it, it ought to