On 05/09/2012 01:11 PM, JD wrote:
> $ pulseaudio --start
> E: main.c: Daemon startup failed.
Also, pulseaudio should throw entries in /var/log/messages which may clue you
in
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On 05/09/2012 01:27 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 05/09/2012 01:11 PM, JD wrote:
>> I can get audio when I play videos on firefox (youtube, ...etc).
>> But vlc and mplayer issue this message into ~/.xsession-error
>>
>> Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_r300.so: cannot open shared object
>> fil
On 05/09/2012 01:11 PM, JD wrote:
> I can get audio when I play videos on firefox (youtube, ...etc).
> But vlc and mplayer issue this message into ~/.xsession-error
>
> Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_r300.so: cannot open shared object file:
> No such file or directory
> Running DIL (3.6.0)
I can get audio when I play videos on firefox (youtube, ...etc).
But vlc and mplayer issue this message into ~/.xsession-error
Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_r300.so: cannot open shared object
file:
No such file or directory
Running DIL (3.6.0) Version
DtsDeviceOpen: Opening HW in mode
On 05/08/2012 08:59 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 05/09/2012 11:42 AM, John Wendel wrote:
F16 with latest updates - Dell smart card reader keyboard
Problem: I can't get smart card login working
I'm pretty sure I have all the pieces installed. The card can be read by several
command line utilities (
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 16:02 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> As I tried to explain, rewriting a couple of apps is not going to hack
> it. The apps don't *know* they're using a networked filesystem,
> they're just accessing files. They could find out and try to take
> measures, but then what abou
On 05/09/2012 11:42 AM, John Wendel wrote:
> F16 with latest updates - Dell smart card reader keyboard
>
> Problem: I can't get smart card login working
>
> I'm pretty sure I have all the pieces installed. The card can be read by
> several
> command line utilities (can't rember their names at the
Have firefox-12.0-1.fc16.i686
Problem1: Youtube videos auto-repeat. Have no idea where the setting for
that is.
Problem2: Most youtube videos stop at 0:42 seconds position and after a
while (about a couple of minutes),
I get an error message in the video display area, telling me
to tr
F16 with latest updates - Dell smart card reader keyboard
Problem: I can't get smart card login working
I'm pretty sure I have all the pieces installed. The card can be read by
several command line utilities (can't rember their names at the moment).
[1] escd, pcscd running
[2] Smart card work
Patrick O'Callaghan writes:
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 19:42 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>
> Use soft mounts. Problem solved.
*For NFS*,
And CIFS.
but there's no indication that the OP's problem is being
caused by NFS.
Actually, I must've been one of the few around here who paid
On Tue, 08 May 2012 19:33:17 -0430
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Other things can also cause D state waits
On some linux kernels I've found that sufficiently
tricky manipulation with a debugger can get an
app in an uninterruptible state, in fact I had to
add code to my debugger to notice it and av
On 05/08/2012 04:49 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Did you also happen to read the nfs and the mount.cifs man pages, that
give the mount options for remote shares so that processes won't go into
uninterruptible sleep when the share goes down, with no changes required
to the application?
No, becaus
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 19:42 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan writes:
>
> > On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 15:35 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > > On 05/08/2012 03:17 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's not up to the app. This is not an optional system call. If the
> > > > kernel w
On 05/08/2012 04:45 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Tue, 08 May 2012 18:58:18 -0430
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
This is not to say that it couldn't be any other
way, but actually changing it would mean quite a radical redesign.
I don't know. The suggestion earlier in this thread to
allow kill -9 to
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 08:03 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> It's not that hard to save userspace in the kernel. Make SIGKILL abort
> the OS call and terminate the process. Have the kernel mark the I/O as
> cancelled in whatever form is necessary for the subsystem in use.
Something like http://lwn.
On 05/08/2012 04:28 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
This is not to say that it couldn't be any other
way, but actually changing it would mean quite a radical redesign.
Nothing is impossible, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
Not a problem, I was just making sure I understood you. Tha
Joe Zeff writes:
On 05/08/2012 04:17 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Depending on requirements, the programmer might be able
to use aio(7) calls, but it complicates things greatly and AFAIK doesn't
guarantee that the program will never wait.
If I read the man page correctly, a program can chec
On Tue, 08 May 2012 18:58:18 -0430
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> This is not to say that it couldn't be any other
> way, but actually changing it would mean quite a radical redesign.
I don't know. The suggestion earlier in this thread to
allow kill -9 to make the process go away while leaving
some
Patrick O'Callaghan writes:
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 15:35 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 05/08/2012 03:17 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> >
> > It's not up to the app. This is not an optional system call. If the
> > kernel wants to put the task into uninterruptible sleep, that's what it
> > will do. End
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Osmanys Fuentes Lomba
wrote:
> Hi people, I want to now what is the size of the whole repository of
> Fedora (16 or 17). I'm from Cuba and my connection to the internet is
> very slow, I want to download or copy the whole set of applications and
> later get into my
On 05/08/2012 04:17 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Depending on requirements, the programmer might be able
to use aio(7) calls, but it complicates things greatly and AFAIK doesn't
guarantee that the program will never wait.
If I read the man page correctly, a program can check the status of a
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 15:35 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 05/08/2012 03:17 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> >
> > It's not up to the app. This is not an optional system call. If the
> > kernel wants to put the task into uninterruptible sleep, that's what it
> > will do. End of story.
>
> So let me get t
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 14:41 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 05/08/2012 02:31 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > I think you're underestimating the amount of extra effort this would
> > require for each program.
>
> Actually, I was thinking in terms of "if this switch is set, don't use
> uninturrupted
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 18:23 -0400, Osmanys Fuentes Lomba wrote:
> Hi people, I want to now what is the size of the whole repository of
> Fedora (16 or 17). I'm from Cuba and my connection to the internet is
> very slow, I want to download or copy the whole set of applications and
> later get int
OK, got it to boot with sone instructions I found on the web:
http://techgage.com/news/repairing_a_broken_grub_2_boot-loader_on_ubuntu/
Just had to change somethings so that they looked like in my system
(devices, path to vmlinuz, etc.)
Now, how do I verify that my grub.cfg is good, and it's ins
On 05/08/2012 03:17 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
It's not up to the app. This is not an optional system call. If the
kernel wants to put the task into uninterruptible sleep, that's what it
will do. End of story.
So let me get this straight: even if you know that this kind of thing
can happen an
Hi people, I want to now what is the size of the whole repository of
Fedora (16 or 17). I'm from Cuba and my connection to the internet is
very slow, I want to download or copy the whole set of applications and
later get into my computer.
Some body have any idea??
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Joe Zeff writes:
On 05/08/2012 02:31 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I think you're underestimating the amount of extra effort this would
require for each program.
Actually, I was thinking in terms of "if this switch is set, don't use
uninturrupted sleep."
It's not up to the app. This is n
Joe Zeff writes:
completing when the remote server's known to have crashed. At this point,
probably the best way to proceed is to request that whoever maintains the
programs in question modify them so that they don't enter this state when
It's not up to the app to decide that.
If you conf
Andrew Gray writes:
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Hi
Either give use a way to kill a hung cp or rsync when the VPN goes down and
they end up is state D uninterrupted sleep or stop apps being able to go into
uninterrupted sleep !!
It is unacceptable for a Linux system to have to be
mailto:cr
On 08May2012 13:18, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
| >> Is `ssh -Y localhost kate -graphicssystem native` faster?
| >
| > Absolutely yes! The speed is normal again.
| > I also tried "-graphicssystem raster" which is slw,
| > and "-graphicssystem opengl" which is bugged (pieces of the GUI are
| > mi
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 21:41 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Tue, 08 May 2012 19:42:46 +0100
> Andrew Gray wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Either give use a way to kill a hung cp or rsync when the VPN goes down
> > and they end up is state D uninterrupted sleep or stop apps being able
> > to go into uninte
Today I performed a yum upgrade from F15 to F16 (as I did some time
ago with my main computer).
The thing is that I did something differently (maybe not installing
grub2 on F15 before the upgrade) and after yum finished upgrading, I
did a grub2-install. Bad for me, now grub doesn't show a menu , b
On 08May2012 16:02, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
| On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 13:16 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
| > On 05/08/2012 12:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
| > > On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 19:42 +0100, Andrew Gray wrote:
| > >> > Hi
| > >> >
| > >> > Either give use a way to kill a hung cp or rsync w
On 05/09/2012 12:59 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>
> Yes 86 is the only one in testing right now. 88 will be next.
One of you may want to invest in trimming posts. My scroll wheel is wearing
out. :-) :-)
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On 05/08/2012 02:31 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I think you're underestimating the amount of extra effort this would
require for each program.
Actually, I was thinking in terms of "if this switch is set, don't use
uninturrupted sleep." And, I'd be very astonished if any of the
maintainers
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 14:20 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 05/08/2012 01:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > As I tried to explain, rewriting a couple of apps is not going to hack
> > it. The apps don't*know* they're using a networked filesystem, they're
> > just accessing files.
>
> I suppose the
On 05/08/2012 01:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
As I tried to explain, rewriting a couple of apps is not going to hack
it. The apps don't*know* they're using a networked filesystem, they're
just accessing files.
I suppose there could be a command line switch to control this. Please
unders
Anyone else seeing this? New kernel 3.3.4-3.fc16.x86_64 this morning,
I now lose wireless after a short time. Interestingly my normal
response (stop NetworkManager, modprobe -r rt2500pci, then bring them
both back up again) causes a segfault in libgobject-2.0.so gnome shell
(visible in dmesg, also
On Tue, 08 May 2012 19:42:46 +0100
Andrew Gray wrote:
> Hi
>
> Either give use a way to kill a hung cp or rsync when the VPN goes down
> and they end up is state D uninterrupted sleep or stop apps being able
> to go into uninterrupted sleep !!
>
> It is unacceptable for a Linux system to have
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 15:42 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Tue, 08 May 2012 15:09:31 -0430
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> > I think it was Lamport
> > who said that you can't tell 'down' from 'disconnected' (did the remote
> > server crash, or is there a network disconnection? maybe the network
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 13:16 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 05/08/2012 12:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 19:42 +0100, Andrew Gray wrote:
> >> > Hi
> >> >
> >> > Either give use a way to kill a hung cp or rsync when the VPN goes down
> >> > and they end up is state D uni
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> On 05/08/2012 09:40 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
>> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>>> An additional test, on the F16 machine:
>>> - "kate" is normally fast
>>> - "ssh -Y localhost kate" is slooow
>>>
On 05/08/2012 12:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 19:42 +0100, Andrew Gray wrote:
> Hi
>
> Either give use a way to kill a hung cp or rsync when the VPN goes down
> and they end up is state D uninterrupted sleep or stop apps being able
> to go into uninterrupted sleep
On 05/08/2012 09:40 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>> An additional test, on the F16 machine:
>> - "kate" is normally fast
>> - "ssh -Y localhost kate" is slooow
>>
>> What is happening here
>
> Is `ssh -Y localhost kate -
On Tue, 08 May 2012 15:09:31 -0430
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I think it was Lamport
> who said that you can't tell 'down' from 'disconnected' (did the remote
> server crash, or is there a network disconnection? maybe the network is
> just congested, there's no way to tell).
I can tell: If I've
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> Hi,
>
> some exported (ssh -Y) applications are unbelievably slow, as they
> seem to "upload bitmaps" (display is progressively drawn from top to bottom
> and network traffic is 11.2MB/s, saturated 100Mbit/s).
>
> This happens only with qt4 a
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 19:42 +0100, Andrew Gray wrote:
> Hi
>
> Either give use a way to kill a hung cp or rsync when the VPN goes down
> and they end up is state D uninterrupted sleep or stop apps being able
> to go into uninterrupted sleep !!
It is *not possible* to kill a process in D state.
On 05/08/2012 10:25 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Did you by any chance have a 3rd party (aka working) video driver
installed, such as from another repo like rpmfusion? If so, there may
have been an updated kernel in your "failed update" and your
kmod-whatever is unable to update.
There's been about
On 05/08/2012 09:31 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Fedora is stuck on cows, clearly a Spherical Cow is a subset of Beefy
Miracle,
I wonder how many of the voters GNU that.
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Hi
Either give use a way to kill a hung cp or rsync when the VPN goes down
and they end up is state D uninterrupted sleep or stop apps being able
to go into uninterrupted sleep !!
It is unacceptable for a Linux system to have to be CRASH reboot as the
mounted CIF mount can't be umounted as it
Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
n 03/11/2012 11:19 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Starting Display Manager.
Started Display Manger
I had that problem on this box after an "upgrade" to F16 went sour. Try
booting into runlevel 3, or whatever it's called now, log into a CLI as
root and try this:
yum
George R Goffe wrote:
Hi,
I'm having a bit of a problem with some SATA drives in docking stations
connected to USB ports.
The problem seems to be unrelated to heavy I/O and occurs randomly. Once,
without the drive even being mounted.
Here's a sample of output from /var/log/messages:
[___ sni
Ranjan Maitra wrote:
You should apply for co-maintainership of the package. :)
Perhaps, but it is not clear if the original guy will be
happy:-( Especially if he does not agree with the patching
Can someone please tell me how to put in local rpms into a kickstart
file (to make a LiveCD)
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On 05/08/2012 12:49 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
>
> --- On Tue, 5/8/12, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
>> From: Antonio Olivares Subject: Re: X Hang when
>> starting machine To: "Community support for Fedora users"
>> , "Daniel J Walsh"
>> Date: Tu
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On 05/08/2012 10:26 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> Could you attach a compressed "ausearch -i -m avc"
>>
>
> Started machine in level 3 and can log in in "Fallback Mode", here's
> compressed file.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Antonio
The only AVC's that I
Alan Cox wrote:
On Tue, 08 May 2012 10:46:13 -0600
JD wrote:
Searching for Suckit rootkit... Warning: /sbin/init INFECTED
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 8 10:19 /sbin/init -> ../bin/systemd
rwxr-x-r-x1 root root 917320 Apr 17 01:50 /bin/systemd
$ sha256sum /bin/systemd
73054e573603f8894c
--- On Tue, 5/8/12, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> From: Antonio Olivares
> Subject: Re: X Hang when starting machine
> To: "Community support for Fedora users" ,
> "Daniel J Walsh"
> Date: Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 9:35 AM
>
> > >> Could you attach a compressed "ausearch -i -m
> avc"
> > >
> > > I
On 05/08/2012 09:31 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Fedora is stuck on cows, clearly a Spherical Cow is a subset of Beefy
Miracle, I suppose that given that it's Linux, it wouldn't be too much
of a jump from cows to something GNU.
LOL. Good catch ;)
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> >> Could you attach a compressed "ausearch -i -m avc"
> >
> > I have updated another machine and run into the same
> problem :( Starting in
> > enforcing=0 works :)
> >
> > Here is the output of above command
> >
> > [antonio@localhost ~]$ su - Password: [root@localhost
> ~]# ausearch -i -m
>
Antonio Olivares wrote:
I think Chris was talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banach%E2%
80%93Tarski_paradox as applied to spherical cows.
poc
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Dear sir,
I did not know about this :( Thank you for explaining/referring me to this. I
had heard about Banach spaces in college and j
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On 05/08/2012 10:00 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
>
> --- On Tue, 5/8/12, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>
>> From: Daniel J Walsh Subject: Re: X Hang when
>> starting machine To: "Community support for Fedora users"
>> Date: Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 5:15 AM
Joe Zeff wrote:
On 05/02/2012 12:24 PM, Michael Hannon wrote:
I'm late to this (all-important) thread, but I haven't seen anybody mention
the origin of the term "spherical cow". It's a physics joke, or, maybe
better, a joke about physicists.
Yes. And many of us consider it to be trivializing F
Alan Cox wrote:
On Wed, 02 May 2012 11:20:09 +0300
Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 05/01/2012 09:40 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
Spherical Cow is really an idiom, and arguably not a normal adjective-noun
pair.
Justify it all you want, it still sounds like "Copying Ubuntu" to me.
Dudes, it's
On Tue, 08 May 2012 10:46:13 -0600
JD wrote:
> Searching for Suckit rootkit... Warning: /sbin/init INFECTED
>
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 8 10:19 /sbin/init -> ../bin/systemd
> rwxr-x-r-x1 root root 917320 Apr 17 01:50 /bin/systemd
> $ sha256sum /bin/systemd
> 73054e573603f8894c6df2078b
On Tue, 08 May 2012 10:46:13 -0600
JD wrote:
> Searching for Suckit rootkit... Warning: /sbin/init INFECTED
>
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 8 10:19 /sbin/init -> ../bin/systemd
> rwxr-x-r-x1 root root 917320 Apr 17 01:50 /bin/systemd
> $ sha256sum /bin/systemd
> 73054e573603f8894c6df2078b
Hi,
some exported (ssh -Y) applications are unbelievably slow, as they
seem to "upload bitmaps" (display is progressively drawn from top to bottom
and network traffic is 11.2MB/s, saturated 100Mbit/s).
This happens only with qt4 apps (e.g. kate), no problem with qt3 apps or
gtk apps.
The qt4 app
Searching for Suckit rootkit... Warning: /sbin/init INFECTED
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 8 10:19 /sbin/init -> ../bin/systemd
rwxr-x-r-x1 root root 917320 Apr 17 01:50 /bin/systemd
$ sha256sum /bin/systemd
73054e573603f8894c6df2078b7714f7533d5b95653b536e7f07d2c8f3f09bc1
/bin/systemd
Is
On 05/08/2012 12:39 AM, Jouk Jansen wrote:
[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Exec=/usr/bin/gnome-panel --replace
Hidden=false
X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true
Name[en_US]=gnome-panel
Name=gnome-panel
Comment[en_US]=gnome-panel
Comment=gnome-panel
Thanx for the tip.
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> Could you attach a compressed "ausearch -i -m avc"
>
Started machine in level 3 and can log in in "Fallback Mode", here's compressed
file.
Regards,
Antonio
audit-20120508.txt.gz
Description: GNU Zip compressed data
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--- On Tue, 5/8/12, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> From: Daniel J Walsh
> Subject: Re: X Hang when starting machine
> To: "Community support for Fedora users"
> Date: Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 5:15 AM
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> On 05/07/2012 11:06 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On
On Tue, 8 May 2012 12:21:26 +0200
Maurizio Marini wrote:
nevermind :)
dirmngr was not installed, grrr...
sudo yum install dirmngr-1.1.0-6.fc16.x86_64
~/.gnupg $ dirmngr --daemon
m.
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On 05/08/2012 01:49 AM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
Have you looked in /var/log/messages? I was having mouse issues on
Fedora 14 and when I looked in /var/log/messages I noticed a lot of
messages where my USB mouse would disconnect and then reconnect. This
occurred with at least 3 different mice. I bou
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On 05/07/2012 11:06 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 05/08/2012 08:39 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> Dear folks,
>>
>> For the past week or so, I have a machine running Fedora 16 and X worked
>> fine till a week or so ago. I have started in level 3 and rel
I am trying to get my localhost ldap server configured into Kleopatra as x509
backend, but for some reason it does not work
This is Fedora 16 with Kleopatra 2.1.1
I am using the same data that i use into claws to configure ldap address book
backend, to be sure they are correct
>When I plug my iphone to the usb, I get this message and then the iphone is
>not mounted.
>dmes prints this messages.
>Could you help please.
>the iphone is under ios 5.x
You can use ftp to transfer files, this will work forever independent
of what apples changes in its phone.
Emilio.
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On 7 May 2012 16:38, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow! Another BeOS'er! I've still got my original box and CD. It's a
>>> shame it went defunct. It was way ahead of it's time.
>>
>>
My name is Neil, and I have found that I actually quite like GNOME Shell.
I had to update my box from Fedora 14 a fortnight ago, and was dreading
having to move from a GNOME (+ compiz) environment, including persuading the
family. I'd updated my laptop a while ago, and was just about get
2012/5/7 Patrick O'Callaghan
> On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 20:17 +0100, Adel ESSAFI wrote:
> > no idea??
>
> [Please don't top-post]
>
> Did you search the list archives (or Google)? This has been discussed
> extensively before now. The basic reason is that an iPhone is not a
> memory device that can j
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