Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-23 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
@Linda : I think that is about what I feel as well On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Friday 23 December 2011 10:49:57 jdow wrote: > > On 2011/12/23 08:57, Joe Zeff wrote: > > > On 12/23/2011 12:44 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > >> Also, give it time... > > > > > > How

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 23 December 2011 10:49:57 jdow wrote: > On 2011/12/23 08:57, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 12/23/2011 12:44 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > >> Also, give it time... > > > > How much? We're still waiting for signs of major mutations from > > Hiroshima and Nagasaki to show up. > > > >> Fukushima ra

Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire

2011-12-23 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:04 AM, David wrote: > I have been told that the same(??) guy asked the very same question with > the very same Subject: line on the Ubuntu list the other day. David, I understand your concern and respect your views but would like to tell you the same: Correct, I did a

Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire

2011-12-23 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM, g wrote: > as always, i do respect your opinion, other than a couple times we > have gotten a little sideways, i have tried to maintain my harshness > and abusiveness to trolls, and other such ingrates. You are harsh in almost every talk, more of the times, I ha

Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire

2011-12-23 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Craig White wrote: > George, I think you are unnecessarily harsh and abusive - but my > determination was made long before this exchange. That said, you > seemingly are incapable of understanding the adage... don't feed the > trolls. He is person who is born to

Re: BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

2011-12-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/23/2011 12:55 PM, M. Fioretti wrote: I imagined that, but it's nice to have confirmation, thanks. Any hypothesis on what may be wrong with the computer is very welcome, of course (maybe offlist, if it's positive that is not fedora-related). There's either something wrong with your BIOS or

Re: After a while, dolphin, konqueror (and other KDE apps) won't start...

2011-12-23 Thread Rex Dieter
Steven P. Ulrick wrote: > Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: > klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_file'. > > Here is the output of "qdus", as well as a strace for three different > applications that exhibit this issue: > http://tinypaste.com/d4d1b2c1 (dolphin) > http://tinypaste.c

Re: [ABANDONING:] Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk

2011-12-23 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 23 Dec 2011 at 18:51, Michael Hennebry wrote: Date sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:51:47 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Hennebry To: Community support for Fedora users Subject:Re: [ABANDONING:] Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk

Re: After a while, dolphin, konqueror (and other KDE apps) won't start...

2011-12-23 Thread 夜神 岩男
On 12/24/2011 06:51 AM, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: Also, I have what MIGHT be a related issue that I just saw for the first time: At least Dolphin and Konqueror will not load any directories. The window opens and looks normal except for the fact that the area where the directories/files would be di

Re: [ABANDONING:] Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk

2011-12-23 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011, g wrote: making images is a very un-assuring way of making backups because there is no _easy way_ of verifying. If the image fits into a single device, each partition can be mounted without special tools. Correctness can be verified with diff --recursive . -- Michael he

Re: BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install?issue?

2011-12-23 Thread M. Fioretti
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 22:28:20 PM +, JB wrote: > > Reboot to BIOS (F2 key): > - restore Setup Defaults (some F? key), then SAVE and EXIT to restart I had already tried before my first post everything you wrote up to this point: > Serial ATA (SATA) > SATA Controller Mode Option: AHCI (or

Re: BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

2011-12-23 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:23 PM, M. Fioretti wrote: > but is this hypothesis compatible with the fact that the BIOS _does_ > boot when I tell it to boot from HD after pressing F10, see my > original message? The problem isn't that it can't ever boot. Sorry, I missed that part. That's definitely

Re: BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

2011-12-23 Thread M. Fioretti
I forgot to ask another thing in my last reply: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 16:11:21 PM -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > Fedora 16 switched to using GPT partition tables on new disks, and > some BIOSes refuse to boot GPT-labeled disks. any pointer to how I may verify if the BIOS of DH61 CR is one of

Re: BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

2011-12-23 Thread M. Fioretti
(note to the other subscribers who already answered: thanks a lot for your suggestions about erasing CMOS and so on, I'll try them tomorrow and report). With respect to this: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 16:11:21 PM -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > Fedora 16 switched to using GPT partition tables on ne

Re: BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

2011-12-23 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:04 AM, M. Fioretti wrote: > Greetings, > > we just installed Fedora 16 x86_64 KDE spin on an Intel DH61CR board, > from the live CD. New computer, no other OS is installed. > > The live CD worked fine, no problem with the installation. However, > now > > 1) if booting fr

Re: BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

2011-12-23 Thread JB
M. Fioretti nexaima.net> writes: > ... Reboot to BIOS (F2 key): - restore Setup Defaults (some F? key), then SAVE and EXIT to restart If it did not work, Reboot to BIOS (F2 key): - is there anything like Startup menu item ? If yes, mine has submenus: Boot (boot priority order; there is Help

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.12.2011 23:21, schrieb Joe Zeff: >> but it handles config files totally different >> "yum reinstall" will never touch them and not >> create rpmnew/rpmsave files! > > You mean that it won't replace a completely missing config file? > That's one thing I'd expect it to check for. i would

Re: Openfoam is available!!!

2011-12-23 Thread Claude Jones
On 12/23/2011 5:09 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: You seem to have missed the point of the complaint you seem to miss the point of my complaint, which is about your incessant, pedantic, self-centered, nanny-routine now I'm feeding you. I've said my piece - you may have the last word -- Claud

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-23 Thread Linda McLeod
Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait? My "gut feelings" are generally much more accurate than the science and money world's facts.. A "gut feeling" tells me that the existing SSD's will be liquidation antiques, in just a couple months, the moment the tight-wad mfgr's release the new evolutions they've alr

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/23/2011 02:08 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: "yum reinstall" doe snot exactly the same than remove/install which is good if you want to reinstall a package because something ha messed up binary files Thank you; that's what I wanted to find out. but it handles config files totally different "

Re: Openfoam is available!!!

2011-12-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 14:25 -0500, Claude Jones wrote: > if you hadn't heard of OpenFoam, you had the > option of ignoring the post, or doing a quick check to find out what > it was about (as I said, it took me three seconds) You seem to have missed the point of the complaint, which is that annou

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.12.2011 23:04, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 12/23/2011 01:53 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 23.12.2011 22:21, schrieb Joe Zeff: >>> On 12/23/2011 01:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: * remove thessh-config-files COMPLELTLY * uninstall ssh-daemon * install it again >>> >>> You can u

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/23/2011 01:53 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 23.12.2011 22:21, schrieb Joe Zeff: On 12/23/2011 01:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: * remove thessh-config-files COMPLELTLY * uninstall ssh-daemon * install it again You can use yum to reinstall a package in one step if you want to. Is there an

Re: Listings Question About Ping

2011-12-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.12.2011 22:52, schrieb Aaron Konstam: >>> I guess I am thick because I can't understand the explanation in the web >>> page above. An example or two might have helped. >> >> you need to understand what SETUID and CAPABILITIES are >> what examples are you expecting? these are technics >> >>

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.12.2011 22:21, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 12/23/2011 01:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> * remove thessh-config-files COMPLELTLY >> * uninstall ssh-daemon >> * install it again > > You can use yum to reinstall a package in one step if you want to. Is there > any advantage to doing it this way?

Re: Listings Question About Ping

2011-12-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 15:57 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 23.12.2011 15:47, schrieb Aaron Konstam: > > On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 23:55 -0500, Richard Heck wrote: > >> On 12/22/2011 03:33 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > >>> Richard Heck wrote: > When I do: > ls /bin/ping > I

Re: After a while, dolphin, konqueror (and other KDE apps) won't start...

2011-12-23 Thread Steven P. Ulrick
On 12/22/2011 07:13 AM, Rex Dieter wrote: Steven P. Ulrick wrote: Let's say I login to a fresh KDE session. All of the above listed applications start and function perfectly. Then, let's say I have closed all instances of the "offending" KDE applications. If I attempt to start one of them f

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Daniel Bossert
YEAH ! IT WORKS!! Sorry for writing big letters, but I'm happy! I did an reinstall of the openssh-server package, but that would not have been necessary.. I did an sshd-keygen, now my server has some keys! (Probably he didn't had any before).. It works now!! daniel@saturn:~$ ssh 172.25.0.

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread suvayu ali
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 21:47, Daniel Bossert wrote: > [root@merkur ~]# ls -l /etc/shadow > --. 1 root root 1135 Dec 21 17:54 /etc/shadow > [root@merkur ~]# > > --- I see, that /etc/shadow has no permissions.. can that be?I > changed to 0400, but login doesn't work neither. Did y

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/23/2011 01:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: * remove thessh-config-files COMPLELTLY * uninstall ssh-daemon * install it again You can use yum to reinstall a package in one step if you want to. Is there any advantage to doing it this way? (I'm not being argumentative, here, I'm wondering if

Re: Clean Installs are Remarkable

2011-12-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/23/2011 12:37 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Some customization you made that hangs around and interferes with the way things work now... Interesting. I've found it more likely that some of my customizations get overwritten during the upgrade, such as my commenting out the color ls stuff,

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.12.2011 21:47, schrieb Daniel Bossert: > too much stuff touch only ONE thing at time i never saw any linux where ssh-login did not work so your starting mistake was chaning someshting around without make sure that after each step things are working * remove thessh-config-files COMPLELTLY

Re: Listings Question About Ping

2011-12-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/23/2011 12:18 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: If I read the prior posts correctly, Richard Heck cites a black text on red background. That's alot different than bright green on black ... or even amber (which I have to admit does remind me of old days as well). That's why I was careful to sp

Re: BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

2011-12-23 Thread M. Fioretti
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:36:41 PM -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/23/2011 09:04 AM, M. Fioretti wrote: > >I am already investigating on the BIOS side, ie checking the docs and > >so on. My question here is only if there may be anything in how F16 > >was installed (using or not the MBR for grub, choic

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Daniel Bossert
Hello echo 0>/selinux/enforce doesn't work at me: [root@merkur ssh]# echo 0 >/selinux/enforce -bash: /selinux/enforce: No such file or directory [root@merkur ssh]# # Change to no to disable s/key passwords #ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes ChallengeResponseAuthentication no so why are y

Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire

2011-12-23 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:21:54 +0530 "Rameshwar Kr. Sharma" wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 7:58 PM, g wrote: > Both of you: Either stop it or take it off line. Now. -- cmg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedorapr

Re: Clean Installs are Remarkable

2011-12-23 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/22/2011 01:24 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/22/2011 02:31 AM, mike cloaked wrote: the almost inevitable problems that have come from the upgrade of an older system. And I've been doing upgrades for years and this is the first time I've ever had the slightest bit of trouble. What "almost

Re: BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

2011-12-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/23/2011 09:04 AM, M. Fioretti wrote: I am already investigating on the BIOS side, ie checking the docs and so on. My question here is only if there may be anything in how F16 was installed (using or not the MBR for grub, choices of partitions etc) that may cause a problem like this, and if

Re: Clean Installs are Remarkable

2011-12-23 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/21/2011 10:28 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/21/2011 07:06 PM, Fedora User wrote: It has been awhile and I was unaware of the many advances that developers have made in installation. It has never been this easy, intuitive and fast. That's good to know. Even if I manage to get this desktop cl

Re: Clean Installs are Remarkable

2011-12-23 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/21/2011 10:06 PM, Fedora User wrote: I cannot believe that we are at F16. I clearly recall RH9 to FC-1. But I digress. I know that others have said this in the past. I just thought that I would reinforce the notion that clean installs remove a large number of annoying problems that persist

Re: Listings Question About Ping

2011-12-23 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 12/23/2011 11:58 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/23/2011 08:09 AM, Craig White wrote: dark terminal backgrounds are good for novelty but not good for actually using on a semi-continual basis. Speak for yourself, John Alden. I happen to like bright green on black. Not only do I find it quite re

Re: Listings Question About Ping

2011-12-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/23/2011 08:09 AM, Craig White wrote: dark terminal backgrounds are good for novelty but not good for actually using on a semi-continual basis. Speak for yourself, John Alden. I happen to like bright green on black. Not only do I find it quite readable, it reminds me of days gone by. I

Re: Listings Question About Ping

2011-12-23 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 12/23/2011 1:11 AM, jdow wrote: On 2011/12/22 23:08, Paul Allen Newell wrote: any such changes would be in the .bashrc file ... forgetting /etc/.bashrc. /etc/bashrc The file has no leading period in the /etc directory. {o.o} Thanks, I would have discovered my typo when I did a ls -a of /et

Re: Openfoam is available!!!

2011-12-23 Thread Claude Jones
On 12/23/2011 1:28 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: The OP really should have included that description. agreed, but, his omission wasn't deserving of all the claptrap it got; I try to stay out of the noise on the list, but, of late, it's become like summer mosquitoes in Canada's forests around here

Re: Help with some configurations in F16

2011-12-23 Thread Wade Hampton
Thanks -- the shell extensions worked. Anyone have an idea for fixing xsane so it will recognize my scanner by default (it can't find it via scan as it is on a different subnet). Happy Holidays, -- Wade Hampton -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscrip

Re: Script for testing all files on a drive ?

2011-12-23 Thread jdow
On 2011/12/23 01:25, linux guy wrote: "I gotta ask just how did "cp" detect the bad sectors?" cp didn't detect bad sectors. It gave read errors when trying to copy files. The errors are probably automatically remapped now. So you have to find bad files the hard way - use them. {O.O} -- users

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-23 Thread jdow
On 2011/12/23 08:57, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/23/2011 12:44 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Also, give it time... How much? We're still waiting for signs of major mutations from Hiroshima and Nagasaki to show up. Fukushima radiation mapped Yeah. What they don't tell you, probably because the repo

Re: OT: How much RAM should I get in a new laptop ?

2011-12-23 Thread Thomas Cameron
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/23/2011 04:04 AM, linux guy wrote: > I'm specing a new laptop, probably a Dell XPS 17, with an i7 > processor. It will have an SSD and be driving 2 monitors. > > The XPS 17s come in two varieties, one with 2 DIMM slots and the > other with 4 D

Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire

2011-12-23 Thread David
On 12/23/2011 12:14 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 14:28 +, g wrote: >> On 12/23/2011 01:47 PM, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote: >>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:39 PM, g wrote: >>> >>> Suneeta is a very common name in India. >>> >>> So John is also a common name, Mathew is also c

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-23 Thread Thomas Cameron
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/22/2011 09:08 AM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > I just wondered if anyone here has had any experience in using SSDs > in general, and with Fedora in particular? I am thinking about an > upgrade, but I am uncertain whether it is worth it to inves

Re: Openfoam is available!!!

2011-12-23 Thread Thomas Cameron
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/23/2011 09:35 AM, Claude Jones wrote: > On 12/22/2011 10:22 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> You still don't get it do you? The fact that some random package >> was discussed a while back is no reason not to include a >> one-line description rem

Re: Clean Installs are Remarkable

2011-12-23 Thread Thomas Cameron
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/21/2011 09:06 PM, Fedora User wrote: > I cannot believe that we are at F16. I clearly recall RH9 to FC-1. > But I digress. I know that others have said this in the past. I > just thought that I would reinforce the notion that clean installs > rem

strange left-handed mouse behaviour with xfce after new kernel

2011-12-23 Thread mike cloaked
I have an odd problem with a particular user setup in f16 - the machine is running x86_64 f16 fully up to date - one user out of several on the machine needs to have the mouse set to left-handed and all users are running xfce as the desktop. Everything works beautifully including for all users i

Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire

2011-12-23 Thread g
On 12/23/2011 05:14 PM, Craig White wrote: <> > George, I think you are unnecessarily harsh and abusive - but my > determination was made long before this exchange. -=- craig, as always, i do respect your opinion, other than a couple times we have gotten a little sideways, i have tried to mainta

Re: Help with some configurations in F16

2011-12-23 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/23/2011 11:18 AM, Wade Hampton wrote: > Greetings, > > I am trying to configure my new Fedora 16 computer and am having > a lot of success. Things are working well, however I have a few > things I would like to tune. > > How can I enable the minimize button on windows? > Assuming you're u

Help with some configurations in F16

2011-12-23 Thread Wade Hampton
Greetings, I am trying to configure my new Fedora 16 computer and am having a lot of success. Things are working well, however I have a few things I would like to tune. How can I enable the minimize button on windows? How can I change so double click does not maximize windows? How can I persis

Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire

2011-12-23 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 14:28 +, g wrote: > On 12/23/2011 01:47 PM, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:39 PM, g wrote: > > > > > >> Suneeta is a very common name in India. > > > > So John is also a common name, Mathew is also common, so what? > -=- > > yes, john and ma

Re: Why updatedb doesn't traverse my external HD?

2011-12-23 Thread JB
Marko Vojinovic gmail.com> writes: > ... > This configuration used to work on F14. Skipped F15, clean-installed F16, if > it matters. > man updatedb ... --debug-pruning Write debugging information about pruning decisions to standard error output. ... Try it

BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

2011-12-23 Thread M. Fioretti
Greetings, we just installed Fedora 16 x86_64 KDE spin on an Intel DH61CR board, from the live CD. New computer, no other OS is installed. The live CD worked fine, no problem with the installation. However, now 1) if booting from the network is enabled, the motherboard ONLY tries to boot from

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/23/2011 12:44 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Also, give it time... How much? We're still waiting for signs of major mutations from Hiroshima and Nagasaki to show up. Fukushima radiation mapped Yeah. What they don't tell you, probably because the reporters don't know it, is that much

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/23/2011 12:28 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Joe can get his own hardware (smile) Damn straight I can. Or, if I need help, I can ask people I know personally, like Joanne Dow (No, I'm not asking.) or Jerry Pournelle, who always has excess equipment looking for a good home. -- users mai

Re: Clean Installs are Remarkable

2011-12-23 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Fedora User wrote: >> On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:04:00 +0900 >> Joel Rees wrote: >> >>> I generally don't do install from DVD because there will always be the >>> first yum update after the install, to kill a bit o

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.12.2011 17:21, schrieb Daniel Bossert: > On 12/23/2011 05:11 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 23.12.2011 17:07, schrieb Daniel Bossert: >>> # Change to no to disable s/key passwords >>> #ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes >>> ChallengeResponseAuthentication no >> so why are you doing this if

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Rick Sewill
On Friday, December 23, 2011 10:07:00 AM Daniel Bossert wrote: > On 12/23/2011 04:14 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:30:16 +0100 > > > > suvayu ali wrote: > >> It would be helpful if you could give more details and say what > >> command you are trying and its output with the verb

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Daniel Bossert
On 12/23/2011 05:11 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 23.12.2011 17:07, schrieb Daniel Bossert: # Change to no to disable s/key passwords #ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes ChallengeResponseAuthentication no so why are you doing this if you want password-login? I know I had e mess... I changed to

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/23/2011 12:11 AM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: If you're really in a donating mood, I hear Joe is in need of new hardware and is living on a pension. Thank you, but no. What I have will last a little longer, and I'll probably be upgrading within the month, which is why I'm not that worried about some

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-23 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 00:07 +0900, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > The plants aren't destroyed, just mushy and dirty. I just happened to be > there the other day. Wet, yes, but for the most part everything is > intact and accounted for. Anyway, the goings on didn't stop a bunch of > Thaksinites from getting all

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.12.2011 17:07, schrieb Daniel Bossert: > # Change to no to disable s/key passwords > #ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes > ChallengeResponseAuthentication no so why are you doing this if you want password-login? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list

Re: Listings Question About Ping

2011-12-23 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 08:56 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > It is not the blinking that bothers me. Its the impossibility of reading > the file names in some colors. Black letters on a red background is a > good example. dark terminal backgrounds are good for novelty but not good for actually u

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Daniel Bossert
On 12/23/2011 04:14 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:30:16 +0100 suvayu ali wrote: It would be helpful if you could give more details and say what command you are trying and its output with the verbose flag set like this -vvv. Yep, the -vvv option on the remote ssh and taking a lo

Re: Why updatedb doesn't traverse my external HD?

2011-12-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 23 December 2011 10:36:47 G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > On 12/23/2011 10:33 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > [root@Yoda ~]# cat /etc/updatedb.conf > > PRUNE_BIND_MOUNTS = "no" > > PRUNEFS = "9p afs anon_inodefs auto autofs bdev binfmt_misc cgroup cifs > > coda configfs cpuset debugfs devpts ecr

Re: OT: How much RAM should I get in a new laptop ?

2011-12-23 Thread John Mellor
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 08:15 -0700, linux guy wrote: > I was more wondering if its worth about $150 to get 4 DIMM slots > instead of just 2 DIMM slots. Just remember how you intend to use this laptop. DDR3 memory is not very efficient, which is why some manufacturers are even making extra memory s

Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire

2011-12-23 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 7:58 PM, g wrote: > yes, john and mathew common 'english' names. as are rameshwar or kr. > or sharma, are common names of people of India. > except that *Rameshwar Kr. Sharma* is not a common name. > so, for the rest of members of this list, go ahead, have it your way >

Re: Why updatedb doesn't traverse my external HD?

2011-12-23 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
On 12/23/2011 10:33 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: [root@Yoda ~]# cat /etc/updatedb.conf PRUNE_BIND_MOUNTS = "no" PRUNEFS = "9p afs anon_inodefs auto autofs bdev binfmt_misc cgroup cifs coda configfs cpuset debugfs devpts ecryptfs exofs fuse fuse.sshfs fusectl gfs gfs2 hugetlbfs inotifyfs iso9660 jff

Re: Openfoam is available!!!

2011-12-23 Thread Claude Jones
On 12/22/2011 10:22 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: You still don't get it do you? The fact that some random package was discussed a while back is no reason not to include a one-line description reminding people what it is. It's not like we're talking about gcc or X or the kernel. It's a niche int

Why updatedb doesn't traverse my external HD?

2011-12-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
Please someone explain me the following --- [root@Yoda ~]# updatedb [root@Yoda ~]# locate teraipo /dev/disk/by-label/teraipo [root@Yoda ~]# ll /media/ total 4 drwxr-xr-x. 17 vmarko vmarko 4096 Nov 15 00:49 teraipo In addition, nothing under /media/teraipo/ can be located using "locate". Not a s

Re: OT: How much RAM should I get in a new laptop ?

2011-12-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/23/2011 11:15 PM, linux guy wrote: > Thanks for the replies. > > I was more wondering if its worth about $150 to get 4 DIMM slots > instead of just 2 DIMM slots. > > I was thinking I could get away with 2 x 4 GB for a total of 8 GB. > But given its an i7 and all, I'll probably keep it for a w

Re: OT: How much RAM should I get in a new laptop ?

2011-12-23 Thread linux guy
Thanks for the replies. I was more wondering if its worth about $150 to get 4 DIMM slots instead of just 2 DIMM slots. I was thinking I could get away with 2 x 4 GB for a total of 8 GB. But given its an i7 and all, I'll probably keep it for a while and should probably plan that someday I'll want

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:30:16 +0100 suvayu ali wrote: > It would be helpful if you could give more details and say what > command you are trying and its output with the verbose flag set like > this -vvv. Yep, the -vvv option on the remote ssh and taking a look at /var/log/messages and /var/log/sec

Re: R: Re: R: Re: Openfoam is available!!!

2011-12-23 Thread Alan Cox
> never heard of Google?? Long before Google came manners. You might like to look those up on google too > as already explained, thread was already open: I will not spend any more > time (that I don't have) to add any single line why I didn't (or I forgot to) > add the description of Openfoam..

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-23 Thread 夜神 岩男
On 12/23/2011 11:47 PM, Alan Cox wrote: advancement. That situation will ease--the industry is saying by second quarter, but my bet is for at least a year, maybe 16-18 months (since they have to either dry out and refurbish flooded facilities, build new facilities, or expand existing facilities-

Re: Listings Question About Ping

2011-12-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.12.2011 15:47, schrieb Aaron Konstam: > On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 23:55 -0500, Richard Heck wrote: >> On 12/22/2011 03:33 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >>> Richard Heck wrote: When I do: ls /bin/ping I get "ping" displayed with black text on a red background. I don't see >

Re: Listings Question About Ping

2011-12-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 18:50 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 17:35 -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > On 12/22/2011 5:30 PM, Craig White wrote: > > > > > > I find it extremely useful to have my attention drawn to the fact that > > > this linked file is broken so the flashing seem

Re: getting the nologin users out of the login dialog

2011-12-23 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > But I don't get a user list. Just the user name and password fields, > which is not bad, and my family can probably get used to it, but it > doesn't really tell me what's happening. > > Nosing around the web, I found the kdm docs, > > http://docs

Re: Listings Question About Ping

2011-12-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 14:52 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/22/2011 02:08 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Look up the manual "man dircolors". It's documented. > > Yes, but only if you happen to understand the numeric codes and how they > interact. For somebody like me, who has no need to know th

Re: Listings Question About Ping

2011-12-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 23:55 -0500, Richard Heck wrote: > On 12/22/2011 03:33 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > Richard Heck wrote: > >> When I do: > >> ls /bin/ping > >> I get "ping" displayed with black text on a red background. I don't see > >> anything special about its permissions. What'

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-23 Thread Alan Cox
> advancement. That situation will ease--the industry is saying by second > quarter, but my bet is for at least a year, maybe 16-18 months (since they > have to either dry out and refurbish flooded facilities, build new > facilities, or expand existing facilities--all real-world bricks'n'sticks M

Re: Listings Question About Ping

2011-12-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 23:09 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:53:56 -0600, AK (Aaron) wrote: > > > > Same here. Do : ls /bin/* and you will see he programs hat display > > > like: mount, umount, ping, su, fusermounnt, and ping6. > > > > > > I can't figure out what these pr

Re: OT: How much RAM should I get in a new laptop ?

2011-12-23 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 03:04:59AM -0700, linux guy wrote: > I'm specing a new laptop, ... > ... > The XPS 17s come in two varieties, one with 2 DIMM slots and the other > with 4 DIMM slots. Slots, or just populated slots? IIRC, it only comes with 4 slots. > How much RAM do I reasonably require

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread suvayu ali
Hi Daniel, 2011/12/23 Daniel Bossert : > I am connecting as normal user, I don't want to connect as root remotely. It would be helpful if you could give more details and say what command you are trying and its output with the verbose flag set like this -vvv. PS: Please do not top post on this li

Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire

2011-12-23 Thread g
On 12/23/2011 01:47 PM, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:39 PM, g wrote: > > >> Suneeta is a very common name in India. > > So John is also a common name, Mathew is also common, so what? -=- yes, john and mathew common 'english' names. as are rameshwar or kr. or sharma,

Re: Openfoam is available!!!

2011-12-23 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Antonio M wrote: > Openfoam is available for F15 and F16, both 32 bit and 64 bit. > > On the download page http://www.openfoam.com/download/fedora.php I > think that the instruction module load openmpi-x86_64 should be read > module load openmpii386 in case of 32 b

RE: OT: How much RAM should I get in a new laptop ?

2011-12-23 Thread J.Witvliet
-Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Robert P. J. Day Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 11:13 AM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: OT: How much RAM should I get in a new laptop ? On Fri,

Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire

2011-12-23 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
2011/12/23 夜神 岩男 : > I'm not sure what's got you riled about my response. I really did write > that, not the Indian guy you've a problem with. > As far as Christmas goes, it is clearly the season when list goes haywire, > so I was only striving to make as much sense as everything else in this > t

Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire

2011-12-23 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:39 PM, g wrote: > Suneeta is a very common name in India. So John is also a common name, Mathew is also common, so what? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire

2011-12-23 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:32 PM, g wrote: > a web search thru 3 sites on shows one living in India. Well I am an Indian but I do_not_live_there_right now! Okay? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mai

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On 23/12/11 13:43, Daniel Bossert wrote: Hi Roberto. I am connecting as normal user, I don't want to connect as root remotely. Kind regards and thank you Daniel -- Is the keymap correct for your language? type "locale" at command prompt. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedor

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Daniel Bossert
Hi Roberto. I am connecting as normal user, I don't want to connect as root remotely. Kind regards and thank you Daniel -- Skickat från min Android-telefon med K-9 E-post. Ursäkta min fåordighet. Roberto Ragusa skrev: On 12/23/2011 12:49 PM, Daniel Bossert wrote: > Hi all > > I did a fresh ins

Re: SSH on Fedora 16

2011-12-23 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 12/23/2011 12:49 PM, Daniel Bossert wrote: > Hi all > > I did a fresh install of Fedora 16 two days ago. > Really I searched much on the internet but couldn't find any solution. > > I have the problem that I only can connect locally to my PC, not from > remote with ssh. > > First he denied th

Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire

2011-12-23 Thread 夜神 岩男
On 12/23/2011 10:02 PM, g wrote: On 12/23/2011 12:15 PM, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote: 2011/12/23 夜神 岩男: Its Christmas, so probably lots. -=- faking sender as you did only shows more of your lacking. and Christmas has nothing to do with how many there are. a web search thru 3 sit

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