On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:35 PM, David Highley
wrote:
> We are trying to create an rsyncd.service with fedora 16. We can get the
> process to start but it acts like it never opens the socket and exits a
> short time later. The two files we have are below.
>
> rsyncd.socket:
> [Unit]
> Description=
On 11/28/2011 10:55 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
>
> Is yum considered to be a GUI application? Anyway, an aspect of
> yum which may be helpful to look at is that when used with presto, it
> never tells you how much it is going to really download. What I mean is
> that it says Total download size: 11
>
> apt seems faster than yum but it seems that it is colored by the fact
> that a typical Fedora/RHEL/CentOS install will have a lot more packages
> installed than Debian/Ubuntu and it's perceptual, not that I have ever
> timed it. I do have a kitchen sink Ubuntu box at my work and it has a
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 21:54 -0500, Genes MailLists wrote:
> I happened upon pacman on Arch linux - and it appeared to be
> substantially faster than yum. Now this was casual "visual impact only"
> - no formal tests using similar packages and same computer etc - but it
> was very much noticeably fas
On 11/28/2011 04:36 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
<>
> Thank you for you opinion
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On 11/28/2011 12:32 PM, g wrote:
>
> you where one who was upset.
>
> i just wanted to be sure that there was not another misunderstanding
> on your part.
>
>
Thank you for you opinion
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On 11/28/2011 12:13 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 11/28/2011 08:10 AM, g wrote:
>> which sl does not install by default. only adds packages. which in a later
>> post you correct yourself.
>
> So, that is all you had to say The other stuff is just noise.
you where one who was upset.
i just want
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On 11/28/2011 04:43 AM, Tim wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 22:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> User interface research is what I suggested. Not surveys. I
>> don't really think this list is a reasonable sample. Mailing
>> list tends to attract a
On 11/28/2011 01:11 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
> You have to be kidding! "research"? On a 6-month release early release
> often desktop? If you do research, then what influence will the research
> have? Developers have already made up their minds and released their new
> innovations, and
We are trying to create an rsyncd.service with fedora 16. We can get the
process to start but it acts like it never opens the socket and exits a
short time later. The two files we have are below.
rsyncd.socket:
[Unit]
Description=rsyncd Service Sockets
[Socket]
ListenStream=873
[Install]
WantedB
I happened upon pacman on Arch linux - and it appeared to be
substantially faster than yum. Now this was casual "visual impact only"
- no formal tests using similar packages and same computer etc - but it
was very much noticeably faster.
Installs of even large packages seemed to fly compared
On 11/27/2011 07:09 PM, suvayu ali wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 00:57, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>> Or the default DE
>> choice could "rotate" for each release --- XFCE for F17, LXDE for F18, KDE
>> for
>> F19, Gnome3 for F20, and over again, in turns. That way each DE would have
>> equal amount
> | But side posting is more fun = It
> | and by far a more interesting = certainly
> | challenge, isn't it? = is
> |= more
> | {O,o} Ack! = challenging
> > -- = with
On 11/27/2011 02:44 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to use a ELMO document camera with my linux laptop (Fedora 16).
> Is there any way to do so? I can get the exact model number of the ELMO
> tomorrow if that would be helpful but I wanted to see if this is at all
> possible.
>
> Many th
On 24/11/11 18:27, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Morgan Read said:
>> Thanks for getting back - I followed your instructions. It seemed I
>> needed to swap console=ttyS0 and console=tty0 BUT opposite from what you
>> suggested. That is, console=ttyS0 was last and by swapping it with
>>
On 11/27/2011 05:05 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> You may want to run "yum reinstall" instead. I am
> not 100% sure, but it should generate a new initrd.
I've just gotten home and haven't had time to bring in everything (too
tired) let alone set up my laptop. However, man yum has this to say
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On 11/27/2011 10:19 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 11/27/2011 06:13 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>>
>> Again, I'd suggest uninstalling the most recent kernel, and reinstalling
>> it, in order to regenerate the initrd, and the grub menu item for it,
>> afresh.
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On 11/27/2011 06:28 PM, jdow wrote:
> On 2011/11/27 15:42, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> Well, considering that top posting | But side posting is more fun
> > is strongly discourages in the | and by far a more interesting
>> list guidelines,
On 2011/11/27 15:42, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> On 11/27/2011 01:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 27.11.2011 19:32, schrieb Maurizio Marini:
>>>
>>> A. Because people read from top to bottom.
>>> Q. Why should I not top post?
>>> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally r
On 11/28/2011 08:10 AM, g wrote:
> which sl does not install by default. only adds packages. which in a later
> post you correct yourself.
So, that is all you had to say The other stuff is just noise.
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On 11/26/2011 04:50 AM, g wrote:
> On 11/26/2011 04:13 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> <>
>
>> What part isn't true? Nowhere in what I've written did I compare SL
>> with Fedora.
---
i did not say that you did.
>> Nowhere did I make any claims of stable v.s. unstable.
---
i never said that you did.
>>
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 00:57, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Or the default DE
> choice could "rotate" for each release --- XFCE for F17, LXDE for F18, KDE for
> F19, Gnome3 for F20, and over again, in turns. That way each DE would have
> equal amount of "visibility" among users, more bugs would get fi
Since upgrade from 14 to 16 (using DVD) I can hear the logon sound and
system events but nothing else with a HDA NVidia ALC662 rev1 card (MB -
ASRock K10N78M-PRO) thru the analog output. And when I try to play
anything that accesses the default sound card I get the message "The
audio playback d
On Monday 28 November 2011 09:43:05 Tim wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 11:41 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > Developers have already made up their minds and released their new
> > innovations, and "not" what the research is asking for. You want to
> > look at new small screens like tablets, pho
On 11/27/2011 01:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 27.11.2011 19:32, schrieb Maurizio Marini:
>>
>> A. Because people read from top to bottom.
>> Q. Why should I not top post?
>> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
>> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>>
On 11/28/2011 07:13 AM, Tim wrote:
>> > I have since spent some time examining the files and they appear
>> > to be vcards interspersed among huge fields of meaningless data
>> > which at first looked like image files but I have since come to
>> > think it may be some sort of encryption?
> Very
For survey data there is the Phoronix Gnome survey. That actually has a
lot of quite interesting comments from people who've taken it.
In many ways the comments are more valuable than the percentages as it's
not a random 'mug people for data' type survey so somewhat self
selecting. I also don't t
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On 11/27/2011 05:13 PM, Tim wrote:
>
> And then there's the point of view that it's a community
> project, and this is the forum for that community, and
> *significant* numbers of this community are saying that it
> sucks. Yet we're being told we're
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 14:15 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> The thing to do is to use a completely different address book program
> that you never use and you can import this data into this address book
> without any fear of corrupting the data in an address book that you do
> use and in the process, g
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 11:26 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>
> Yes, I now understand what they are. I suspect that Apple has
> sold her on a software system that doesn't fit her needs. If I
> understand what she is telling me her data is stored in a
> "cloud" server somewhere while she wants local copi
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 11:41 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Developers have already made up their minds and released their new
> innovations, and "not" what the research is asking for. You want to
> look at new small screens like tablets, phones and other small stuff
> and replace the traditional
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 22:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> User interface research is what I suggested. Not surveys. I don't
> really think this list is a reasonable sample. Mailing list tends to
> attract a specific type of audience. You have to be knowledgeable
> enough to subscribe and follo
Hi,
Could you please confirm if you get a crash when adding the following
TWiT podcast?
http://feeds.twit.tv/twit_video_large
I get the ABRT warning as soon as I add the podcast. Don't know if it's
something on my setup.
I'm on F14 and using the latest: gpodder-2.20-1.fc14.noarch.
Thanks!
Jo
On 26/11/11 22:55, sean darcy wrote:
> I can't find a daemon script for clamav. I can start clamd directly,
> that seems to work.
>
> Is there a chkconfig or systemd script? Or do you need to stick
> something in rc.local?
>
> rpm -qa | grep clam | sort
> clamav-0.97.3-1500.fc15.i686
> clamav-data-
On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 16:59 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 09:21 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Aaron Konstam
> > wrote:
> > > Suddenly cups is not stared on boot on the machine that is my
> > > printseerver. (F16)
> > >
> > > Now when I
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 11:26 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> I appreciate all the help and if nothing else I know what a .vcf
> file is and know that I can display the data in address book
> format if nothing else.
The thing to do is to use a completely different address bo
On Sunday 27 November 2011 20:00:20 Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 27.11.2011 19:32, schrieb Maurizio Marini:
> > A. Because people read from top to bottom.
> > Q. Why should I not top post?
> > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad th
On 11/27/2011 12:13 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 27/11/11 17:08, Joe Zeff wrote:
>
>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
>>
>> Possibly so someone can say
>> "It's not bloated, you installed all that stuff"
>>
>> Please get your attributions right. There's n
> You will have to do a fairly extensive user interface
> research with
> samples from non technical users fully new to the user
> interface to
> conclude anything meaningful.
>
> Rahul
>
> --
You have to be kidding! "research"? On a 6-month release early release often
desktop? If you do
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Howdy All -
I have Gigabyte EP43-UD3L motherboard with a single PCI Express 2.0 x16
slot. It currently has a decent NVidia card - a GeForce 7300 GT. I've
got two monitors attached, one via the VGA port and one via the digital
video port. It works well
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:00:20 -0600 Reindl Harald
wrote:
>
>
> Am 27.11.2011 19:32, schrieb Maurizio Marini:
> > On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 17:13:53 +
> > Frank Murphy wrote:
> >
> >> That's what top-posting brings. (Not JZ)
> >> Let's see the rant's now.
> >
> > A. Because people read from top
Am 27.11.2011 19:32, schrieb Maurizio Marini:
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 17:13:53 +
> Frank Murphy wrote:
>
>> That's what top-posting brings. (Not JZ)
>> Let's see the rant's now.
>
> A. Because people read from top to bottom.
> Q. Why should I not top post?
> A: Because it messes up the order
On 26 November 2011 15:28, Ian Malone wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know if using a Fedora 16 beta netinstall disc will get me
> to Fedora 16 release version directly? I've got one from previously
> upgrading a system to F16 beta and want to know if I can save burning
> a new disc to upgrade anothe
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 17:13:53 +
Frank Murphy wrote:
> That's what top-posting brings. (Not JZ)
> Let's see the rant's now.
A. Because people read from top to bottom.
Q. Why should I not top post?
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such
On 11/26/2011 07:02 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 17:55:37 -0500, SD (sean) wrote:
>
>> I can't find a daemon script for clamav. I can start clamd directly,
>> that seems to work.
>>
>> Is there a chkconfig or systemd script? Or do you need to stick
>> something in rc.local?
>>
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 22:41:01 +, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 26 November 2011 19:30, Beartooth wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 08:31:49 +, Frank Murphy wrote:
>>
>>> Just install fedorautils.
>>> I'll give you a good gui way of doing it, along with other stuff:
>>> http://fedorautils.sourceforge.
On 27/11/11 17:08, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
>
> Possibly so someone can say
> "It's not bloated, you installed all that stuff"
>
> Please get your attributions right. There's nothing of mine quoted here.
That's what top-posting b
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:27:12 +0800
> Ian Chapman wrote:
>
>> Thanks to Gnome 3 I may well be heading back.
>
> Don't worry, in the current climate it is only a matter
> of time before the KDE developers are seized with the
> same "all the world
On 11/27/2011 08:57 AM, David wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
>> >> On 27/11/11 16:33, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Possibly so someone can say
>> >> "It's not bloated, you installed all that stuff"
Please get your attributions right. There's nothing of mine quo
On 11/27/2011 11:45 AM, Neal Hogan wrote:
> What is this thread about? Or maybe it's easier to say what it's not about
> ;-)
It started as a Troll and has morphed into what you see now.
Which was probably the intention of the Troll. A long, never ending
'chat type' thread that meanders in cont
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 10:45:50 -0600
Neal Hogan wrote:
> What is this thread about? Or maybe it's easier to say what it's not
> about ;-)
>
Well, now that you ask, I'd say that its about 50 to 100 messages too
long.
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On 11/27/2011 10:13 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
>
> In the past some surveys were done - and some complained that the
> sample was biased - whether by fedora users or users who subscribe to
> the mailing lists - but the complainers were generally those who
> disagreed with the outcome :-)
User i
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 10:45:50 -0600
Neal Hogan wrote:
> What is this thread about? Or maybe it's easier to say what it's not
> about ;-)
welcome to fedora users!
I love this mlist for this threads without head and tail.
This is the only list by which i can't unsubscribe, really
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What is this thread about? Or maybe it's easier to say what it's not about ;-)
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 27/11/11 16:33, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On 11/27/2011 08:02 AM, Ian Chapman wrote:
>>> It's also required for me to add an applet to the gnome panel which is
>>> w
On 11/27/2011 11:18 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 11/27/2011 09:10 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>>
>> Actually, I have to disagree with you on that. What works or not is
>> *partially* subjective, especially when it comes to user experience.
>> There are some things that just don't work, per
On 11/28/2011 12:33 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> AIUI, you have to write and/or install various extensions to Gnome 3 to
> regain functionality that was in Gnome 2 out-of-the-box. What I don't
> understand, however, is why this is called progress.
You're not supposed to understand. Just know that it's
On 27/11/11 16:33, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 11/27/2011 08:02 AM, Ian Chapman wrote:
>> It's also required for me to add an applet to the gnome panel which is
>> what I was referring to. I'm not understanding why I should have to
>
> AIUI, you have to write and/or install various extensions to Gnome 3 t
On 11/27/2011 08:02 AM, Ian Chapman wrote:
> It's also required for me to add an applet to the gnome panel which is
> what I was referring to. I'm not understanding why I should have to
AIUI, you have to write and/or install various extensions to Gnome 3 to
regain functionality that was in Gnome
On 26/11/11 21:26, Tim wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 19:09 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>> Is there a Linux application that will display a .vcf file?
> You can use any text editor to look at the contents, it's just a list of
> fields and data, in a form style. Not exactly like this, but it's the
>
On 11/27/2011 06:13 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>
> Again, I'd suggest uninstalling the most recent kernel, and reinstalling
> it, in order to regenerate the initrd, and the grub menu item for it,
> afresh.
That's probably the best idea of all. I don't remember your mentioning
it before and don't
On 11/27/2011 09:10 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>
> Actually, I have to disagree with you on that. What works or not is
> *partially* subjective, especially when it comes to user experience.
> There are some things that just don't work, period.
I don't think you will find any real consensu
On 11/27/2011 05:28 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 11/27/2011 07:38 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On 11/26/2011 12:18 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>>> This*is* the bleeding edge. Sometimes it's dangerously sharp, but it
>>> always produces better and better code.
>>
>> No it doesn't. Sometimes it turns out
On 11/27/2011 04:09 AM, JB wrote:
> From there you can run all you can, e.g.
> # fsck
> # package-cleanup --dupes
> # package-cleanup --problems
> # rpm -V -a --quiet
> and whatever else you wish
I suspect that things aren't quite as bad as you think; I'm using the
"badly corrupted" computer rig
On 11/27/2011 11:22 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>> Or why I have to press Alt + RMB to pop up a menu on a panel in Gnome?
>> Seriously, WTF?
>
> RMB on the window's title bar produces the same pop-up menu. It's only
> when you want to do that from another location on the window that
> Alt-R
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 20:57 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 11/27/2011 08:40 PM, Tim wrote:
> > Joe Zeff:
> >>> No it doesn't. Sometimes it turns out that an idea that sounded good
> >>> Just Doesn't Work.
> >
> > Rahul Sundaram:
> >> People who do the work decide what works or doesn't work.
On 11/27/2011 08:40 PM, Tim wrote:
> Joe Zeff:
>>> No it doesn't. Sometimes it turns out that an idea that sounded good
>>> Just Doesn't Work.
>
> Rahul Sundaram:
>> People who do the work decide what works or doesn't work. This isn't a
>> democracy.
>
> No. They can decide what they want t
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:51:05 -0600 suvayu ali wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 15:44, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > I want to use a ELMO document camera with my linux laptop (Fedora 16).
> > Is there any way to do so? I can get the exact model number of the ELMO
> > tomorrow if that would be helpful
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 22:47 +0800, Ian Chapman wrote:
> On 11/27/2011 05:56 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
> > KDE4.0 was released very early and it was underdeveloped at the time, which
> > was considered stupid by a lot of users. But there were no mistakes in
> > *design*, it just lacked configura
On 11/24/2011 06:07 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> I find the whole thing familiar and friendly and it answers the wishes
> of those who miss the Gnome2 feel.
It does and I currently use it now, although fallback mode doesn't offer
the full Gnome 2 experience. Unfortunately I believe it's deprecated
On 11/27/2011 11:10 PM, Tim wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 22:47 +0800, Ian Chapman wrote:
>> why I have to press Alt + RMB to pop up a menu on a panel in Gnome?
>> Seriously, WTF?
>
> Gosh, gee, Gnome just don't understand the concept of a menu. It's
> supposed to present you with your list of ch
On 11/27/2011 10:39 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> Thanks to Gnome 3 I may well be heading back.
>
> Don't worry, in the current climate it is only a matter
> of time before the KDE developers are seized with the
> same "all the world's a tablet" disease and come out
> with a KDE5 where they try to win
Joe Zeff:
>> No it doesn't. Sometimes it turns out that an idea that sounded good
>> Just Doesn't Work.
Rahul Sundaram:
> People who do the work decide what works or doesn't work. This isn't a
> democracy.
No. They can decide what they want to do. But what works, or doesn't
work, is born o
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 22:47 +0800, Ian Chapman wrote:
> why I have to press Alt + RMB to pop up a menu on a panel in Gnome?
> Seriously, WTF?
Gosh, gee, Gnome just don't understand the concept of a menu. It's
supposed to present you with your list of choices, neatly categorised,
simply by lookin
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 15:44, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> I want to use a ELMO document camera with my linux laptop (Fedora 16).
> Is there any way to do so? I can get the exact model number of the ELMO
> tomorrow if that would be helpful but I wanted to see if this is at all
> possible.
Disclaimer:
On 11/27/2011 05:56 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> KDE4.0 was released very early and it was underdeveloped at the time, which
> was considered stupid by a lot of users. But there were no mistakes in
> *design*, it just lacked configurability and features. This of course improved
> over time, and to
Hi,
I want to use a ELMO document camera with my linux laptop (Fedora 16).
Is there any way to do so? I can get the exact model number of the ELMO
tomorrow if that would be helpful but I wanted to see if this is at all
possible.
Many thanks for any pointers!
Best wishes,
Ranjan
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 14:37:24 +
mike cloaked wrote:
> I am running several f16 machines, both i686 and x86_64 and they all
> have cups running after a boot -
Yea, I didn't have a problem with cups either, but
even though systemd was starting some of my problematic
services at boot, and even th
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:27:12 +0800
Ian Chapman wrote:
> Thanks to Gnome 3 I may well be heading back.
Don't worry, in the current climate it is only a matter
of time before the KDE developers are seized with the
same "all the world's a tablet" disease and come out
with a KDE5 where they try to wi
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 16:27:03 -0600
> Aaron Konstam wrote:
>
>> it is: systemctl restart cups .service that I have to run to get cups to
>> work.
>>
>> Where is the init file for cups.service?
>
> I haven't had problems with cups, but I've cert
On 11/26/2011 04:10 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 13:30 -0500, Matt Rose wrote:
>> As well, KDE's track record on this is not exactly stellar. KDE4 was
>> basically unusable up until 4.3 or so.
>
> I'd dispute that. I've used KDE 4 since it came out and never had major
> p
Joe Zeff writes:
On 11/26/2011 09:27 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> No, you most certainly do. Everyone who installs Fedora ends up
> encrypting something. I'll bet that all your passwords in /etc/shadow
> are encrypted, for example. Because that's the kind of things
> libgcrypt.so.1 is responsibl
On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 19:45 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> On 26/11/11 19:27, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 19:09 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> >> Is there a Linux application that will display a .vcf file?
> > Depends what you mean by "display". Most of the mail clients can impor
On 11/27/2011 07:38 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 11/26/2011 12:18 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>> This*is* the bleeding edge. Sometimes it's dangerously sharp, but it
>> always produces better and better code.
>
> No it doesn't. Sometimes it turns out that an idea that sounded good
> Just Doesn't Work
On 11/27/2011 05:28 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> quality and security should ALWAYS win against features and glitter
> especially in free software where no marketing is announcing the next
> big thing and calculate how much money in what time must be generated
You appear repeatedly demanding for
On 11/27/2011 04:22 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> How do you (or maintainers) know with certainty that there isn't a
> header file dependence, or a compiler change that would lead to a faster
> (or a bug for that matter).
The base toolchain has a lot of Red Hat developers working on it and
they
Joe Zeff zeff.us> writes:
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> On 11/26/2011 09:10 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > Furthermore, if you have a corrupted libcrypt.so.1, it wouldn't matter
> > which kernel you're booting
>
> The specific message is that /sbin/sulogin failed because it coulden't
> find libcrypt.so.1.
>
> I touche
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