Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On 11/13/2011 11:50 AM, Thomas Cameron wrote: > ISTR people were a lot more careful about buying hardware that Linux > would work on. In part that's because it works with most hardware now. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://

F16 boots too slowly on thinkpad x220

The following is part of syslog during booting. It wait nearly 120 seconds after "Switching to clocksource tsc". What's the problem? Nov 14 10:27:11 fedora kernel: [0.875150] GHES: HEST is not enabled! Nov 14 10:27:11 fedora kernel: [0.875359] Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 4 ports, IRQ shar

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On 11/13/2011 09:29 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > The first issue was anaconda lumping together the swap partitions of the > other linux installations, I have installed in parallel That's not a problem because there's nothing left in swap when you reboot that's going to be needed again when you com

Re: kmail2 on F16 loses filters when logout

On 11/14/11 00:58, Zhangsan wrote: > I am a kmail user for years. I've just upgrade to F16 and new kmail2 make > me uncomfortable. I configured a number of filter rules which move mails > to different folders. They worked well in F15, but now in F16, all the filters > lose once I logout KDE. I fil

Re: upgrade F12->F14 small /boot

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Danishka Navin > wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Robert Arkiletian > > wrote: > >> > >> I've got a F12 32bit box with raid1 (software mdadm) 200MB /boot. I > >> know I can't use pre

Re: upgrade F12->F14 small /boot

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Danishka Navin wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Robert Arkiletian > wrote: >> >> I've got a F12 32bit box with raid1 (software mdadm) 200MB /boot. I >> know I can't use preupgrade (/boot too small) but what about using an >> F14 install DVD? Will tha

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

Rahul Sundaram ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 14/11/2011 02:38: > On 11/14/2011 07:04 AM, inode0 wrote: > >> If the target audience fits #2 as well as #1 then it fits everyone and >> is meaningless isn't it? > > That's a matter of perspective. > > Most of what #2 talked about isn'

kmail2 on F16 loses filters when logout

I am a kmail user for years. I've just upgrade to F16 and new kmail2 make me uncomfortable. I configured a number of filter rules which move mails to different folders. They worked well in F15, but now in F16, all the filters lose once I logout KDE. I filed a bug report but get no response. Does a

Re: chrome package differences

On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 11:47 -0800, jackson byers wrote: > $ > [root@f14 ~]# yum list installed |grep chrom > google-chrome-beta.i386 Above is a browser, like firefox, made by google. > xorg-x11-drv-openchrome.i686 Above is a video driver, by xorg. They are not related in any way, shape or form

Re: upgrade F12->F14 small /boot

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > I've got a F12 32bit box with raid1 (software mdadm) 200MB /boot. I > know I can't use preupgrade (/boot too small) but what about using an > F14 install DVD? Will that upgrade work? > AFAIK, F12 > F13 > F14 > > -- > Robert Arkiletian

upgrade F12->F14 small /boot

I've got a F12 32bit box with raid1 (software mdadm) 200MB /boot. I know I can't use preupgrade (/boot too small) but what about using an F14 install DVD? Will that upgrade work? -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Right click on window title bar in KDE

On Monday 14 November 2011 03:39:03 Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Monday 14 November 2011 11:26:19 Zhangsan wrote: > > I've just upgraded to Fedora 16 from 15. The menu of > > window-titile-right-click in KDE always appears on the top screen edge. > > Is this a feature or a bug? > > Yup, it happens

Re: Right click on window title bar in KDE

On Monday 14 November 2011 11:26:19 Zhangsan wrote: > I've just upgraded to Fedora 16 from 15. The menu of > window-titile-right-click in KDE always appears on the top screen edge. Is > this a feature or a bug? Yup, it happens on a clean install of F16 as well. If you ask me, it's a bug. I wouldn

Re: Right click on window title bar in KDE

On 11/13/2011 09:26 PM, Zhangsan wrote: > I've just upgraded to Fedora 16 from 15. The menu of window-titile-right-click > in KDE always appears on the top screen edge. Is this a feature or a bug? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=747644 -- =

Right click on window title bar in KDE

I've just upgraded to Fedora 16 from 15. The menu of window-titile-right-click in KDE always appears on the top screen edge. Is this a feature or a bug? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listi

Re: recent changes in gdm or num lock default in F15?

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:39:24 + (UTC) Andre Robatino wrote: > Rahul Sundaram gmail.com> writes: > > > > http://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/224/how-do-i-get-num-lock-to-be-turned-on-at-boot-time?answer=393#393 > > I know about that now, having come across it in the process of > googling f

Re: limitations of fedorapeople.org

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/10/2011 10:47 AM, suvayu ali wrote: >> My question was, even if you manage to install F16 on a machine the 50 >> MB download limit might block some updates. Although most package >> updates are small some like libreoffice-core can be substa

Re: limitations of fedorapeople.org

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:17 AM, suvayu ali > wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 19:38, Kalpa Welivitigoda >> wrote: >>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 22:12 +0530, Kalpa Welivitigo

Re: how to watch copy-protected dvd's on fedora 16? (64 bits)

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 06:17, Peter Gueckel wrote: > suvayu ali wrote: > >> remi repo > > Never heard of it. I will check it out, but I am concerned about > incompatibilities with rpmfusion, which operates closely with fedora. This is a widely used community repo for fedora. It is mostly known f

Re: Bios boot partition question

On 11/14/2011 05:54 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:11:03 + > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > >> Now, I gather from the text above that the boot partition is necessary only >> for "non-EFI" systems with a "GPT-labelled" disk. What does this mean? How >> can >> I check whether my sy

Re: Bios boot partition question

On Sunday 13 November 2011 19:24:19 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:11:03 + Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Now, I gather from the text above that the boot partition is necessary > > only for "non-EFI" systems with a "GPT-labelled" disk. What does this > > mean? How can I check whether m

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On 11/14/2011 07:04 AM, inode0 wrote: > If the target audience fits #2 as well as #1 then it fits everyone and > is meaningless isn't it? That's a matter of perspective. Most of what #2 talked about isn't even part > of the default offering so he would be very disappointed in us. I don't see w

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/14/2011 06:31 AM, inode0 wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> On 11/14/2011 06:01 AM, inode0 wrote: >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base The special class of users that is apparent

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On 11/14/2011 06:31 AM, inode0 wrote: > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 11/14/2011 06:01 AM, inode0 wrote: >> >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base >>> >>> The special class of users that is apparently no longer called the >>> "target audience" but is none-the-le

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/14/2011 06:01 AM, inode0 wrote: > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base >> >> The special class of users that is apparently no longer called the >> "target audience" but is none-the-less the people we are trying to >> reach seems

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On 11/14/2011 06:01 AM, inode0 wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base > > The special class of users that is apparently no longer called the > "target audience" but is none-the-less the people we are trying to > reach seems to fit User #1 to me. I don't see it that way at all. Nothin

Re: Bios boot partition question

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > All excellent questions which I would have thought deserved at least > a bit of text in the release notes rather than just firing a barrel > full of acronyms at you :-). Even worse, the official Installation Guide for F16 doesn't even mention

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: > On 11/13/2011 02:42 PM, inode0 wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> On 11/13/2011 11:57 PM, inode0 wrote: They are affected by many of the changes. That is why. >>> >>> How is a desktop user affected by

Re: Bios boot partition question

On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:11:03 + Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Now, I gather from the text above that the boot partition is necessary only > for "non-EFI" systems with a "GPT-labelled" disk. What does this mean? How > can > I check whether my system is EFI or no, and whether the disk is using GPT

Bios boot partition question

Hi folks! :-) After a successful installation of F16 on my machine with (of course) custom partition layout, I decided to read the F16 release notes. ;-) And there I found this passage: Starting in Fedora 16, on non-EFI x86 (32 and 64 bit) systems, anaconda will default to creating GPT diskl

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/13/2011 03:30 PM, Alan Cox wrote: >> like maybe there's some round hole/square peg going on here. Fedora, >> almost by definition, will be bleeding edge and therefore, somewhat >> buggy. But, really, our version of "buggy" is *so* much better tha

URGENT: New Grub installation in graphic mode does not work

Hello Finally I decided to have both windows and linux on my notebook, first I installed Win7 in sda1/2 and linux in sda3(swap) and sda4 (ext4) The problem is that this time Fedora intalled Grub in graphic mode (don't know why) and it shows just garbage on the screen, just colored pixels... How

recent changes in gdm or num lock default in F15?

Rahul Sundaram gmail.com> writes: > http://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/224/how-do-i-get-num-lock-to-be-turned-on-at-boot-time?answer=393#393 I know about that now, having come across it in the process of googling for answers to my original question. But it doesn't explain how my father was ab

Re: recent changes in gdm or num lock default in F15?

On 11/14/2011 05:09 AM, Andre Robatino wrote: > Rahul Sundaram gmail.com> writes: > >> > http://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/224/how-do-i-get-num-lock-to-be-turned-on-at-boot-time?answer=393#393 > > I know about that now, having come across it in the process of googling for > answers to my ori

Re: Free Space fluctuations - Home directory Weirdness

On 11/13/2011 03:53 PM, Martin Airs wrote: > On Sunday 13 Nov 2011 15:38:43 Gary Waters wrote: >> The offending file appears to be /home/admin/.cache/tracker/meta.db-wal >> >> What in the name of the sweet lawd jaysus is that? How do I rectify >> this? I'm kinda from planet noobie at this level.. >

Re: chksystemd Re: SystemD - F-16

On Sunday 13 November 2011 07:22:51 T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > Yay for unicode bugs! Fixed in chksystemd-2 (along with a brown paper > bag bug that made the "reset" action not work), which is now available > at http://tchol.org/chksystemd/ > > > Hope this helps. > > > > PS: I think this is a ve

Re: recent changes in gdm or num lock default in F15?

On 11/13/2011 09:33 AM, Andre Robatino wrote: > I never use the numeric keypad, and so never paid attention to either it or to > the num lock setting. But I just learned that my father, who hasn't been able > to > log in for around 2 weeks, has been using it all the time, and his password > contai

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On 11/14/2011 04:53 AM, JB wrote: > > First you would release them for the benefit of Fedora. > > Then you would subject them, if any, to selection and election process > according to status and election rules as described. I have no idea what you are talking about but please describe the gover

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

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Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

Does Fedora 'need' saving? From who? Or will it keep on innovating for years to come? I sincerely hope so! Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraprojec

Re: wine direct rendering under F16?

my guess is you are running x86_64 with open source drivers. your problem is that mesa-dri-drivers.i686 is missing (you do have the x86_64 variant for sure). I already suggested that it should be pulled in by some other mesa component to not let you fall back to software rendering for no apparent r

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

Rahul Sundaram gmail.com> writes: > > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:58 AM, JB gmail.com> wrote: > > > With regard to composition of governing bodies, it is not that Fedora would > start from scratch. > > > Let's try again.  You reply doesn't seem to show any understanding of Fedora's > curre

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/13/2011 09:44 AM, inode0 wrote: >> Red Hat as a company is poised to be a billion dollar company this year >> (FY12). The FY 2006 earnings were $278.3 million.[1] That's a 4X >> increase in just 6 years. That's *amazing* growth. > > What does th

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:58 AM, JB wrote: > > > With regard to composition of governing bodies, it is not that Fedora would > start from scratch. > Let's try again. You reply doesn't seem to show any understanding of Fedora's current governance structure? Can you describe that at all? Rahul

Re: ATI Catalyst on Fedora 16

On 11/13/2011 08:14 AM, Miguel Cardenas wrote: [snip] > Anybody knows of a procedure to make it work with Fedora *16* ? Afaik Catalyst does not work with Fedora 16 because the latest Catalyst driver does not yet support the x.org version used in Fedora 16. This must be fixed by ATI so I guess yo

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

Rahul Sundaram gmail.com> writes: > > On 11/14/2011 01:04 AM, JB wrote: > > > > > Perhaps no fork would be required. > > Even if it is "required", it is a lot of work and I am not sure anyone > with just a opinion would be willing to sign up for it. > > RH could release tight control of Fed

USB printer discovery

I have an USB laser printer (Samsung ML-1610): should it be discovered by Fedora? how long does it take the discovery process?? Manual set-up work flawlessly. Tnx -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F15 (Lovelock) on Acer 5720 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campingmontero

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

> like maybe there's some round hole/square peg going on here. Fedora, > almost by definition, will be bleeding edge and therefore, somewhat > buggy. But, really, our version of "buggy" is *so* much better than I > deal with as regards most closed source commercial code, it's not even > funny. Thi

Re: Problems with DNS name server in Fedora 16

>> I don't understand why the resolver didn't fall through to the second >> nameserver, but it evidently did not.  After I put the nameservers in the >> order you suggest, everything seems to be working fine! > Because the multiple servers are only good for the first server failing. > Once the fir

Re: Problems with DNS name server in Fedora 16

>> Another good suggestion.  I had forgotten about the immutable attribute. >> I've set it now.  (It's a safe bet that in six months or so I'll be sending >> a note to the list, whining about how I can't edit resolv.conf ;-) > Suggestion: take off the immutable bit, now, add a comment saying that

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/14/2011 02:12 AM, inode0 wrote: >> User #1 is from the user base professed by the project to be its >> target audience. User #2 is more from the enterprise consumer side of >> Fedora's community. My suggestion was to be more open about

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/13/2011 02:42 PM, inode0 wrote: > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 11/13/2011 11:57 PM, inode0 wrote: >>> They are affected by many of the changes. That is why. >> >> How is a desktop user affected by new clustering

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On 11/14/2011 02:12 AM, inode0 wrote: > User #1 is from the user base professed by the project to be its > target audience. User #2 is more from the enterprise consumer side of > Fedora's community. My suggestion was to be more open about the > importance of both of these user bases to help resolv

Re: Little Yellow Boxes

On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 18:38 +, Martin Airs wrote: > On Sunday 13 Nov 2011 09:56:32 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > Deleting a note isn't so easy; there's been a fair amount of discussion > > on the web about how to remove widgets, none of it informative. I would > > have thought that if a note is

Re: Re: Free Space fluctuations - Home directory Weirdness

On Sunday 13 Nov 2011 15:38:43 Gary Waters wrote: > The offending file appears to be /home/admin/.cache/tracker/meta.db-wal > > What in the name of the sweet lawd jaysus is that? How do I rectify > this? I'm kinda from planet noobie at this level.. > > G aaah, that tracker thing is like strigi f

Re: Free Space fluctuations - Home directory Weirdness

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:38:43 -0500 Gary Waters wrote: > The offending file appears to be /home/admin/.cache/tracker/meta.db-wal > > What in the name of the sweet lawd jaysus is that? How do I rectify > this? I'm kinda from planet noobie at this level.. running ".cache/tracker/meta.db-wal" throu

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/13/2011 11:57 PM, inode0 wrote: >> They are affected by many of the changes. That is why. > > How is a desktop user affected by new clustering technology?  You aren't > making any sense to me now Let's start over. User #1 says "Fedo

Re: Free Space fluctuations - Home directory Weirdness

On 11/13/2011 03:27 PM, Gary Waters wrote: > On 11/13/2011 02:47 PM, Martin Airs wrote: >> On Sunday 13 Nov 2011 14:37:06 Gary Waters wrote: >>> >>> It's 12.4 KB (12739 bytes)... >>> >>> Any other suggestions? >> >> Hmm, the only other thing i can think of is to use the file size view in >> konquer

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

Thomas Cameron camerontech.com> writes: > > > On 11/13/2011 11:16 AM, JB wrote: > > ? yahoo.co.jp> writes: > > > >> ... > >> The IT market is massively overweight, > >> overvalued and engages in enormously wasteful development practices > >> right now. Open source development for the m

What determines mdraid minor device numbers

I have existing mdraid arrays. They get mounted as /dev/md0 through /dev/md2. After some sweat and tears, I reduces the size of one of them, and used the free disk space to assemble a new array (all arrays we're talking here are raid 1, with two disks). I formatted the new md device as ext3.

Re: Free Space fluctuations - Home directory Weirdness

On 11/13/2011 02:47 PM, Martin Airs wrote: > On Sunday 13 Nov 2011 14:37:06 Gary Waters wrote: >> >> It's 12.4 KB (12739 bytes)... >> >> Any other suggestions? > > Hmm, the only other thing i can think of is to use the file size view in > konqueror to view your home folder, it should be easy to spo

Re: fedora as wifi access point; usb recommendation

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:13:44 -0800 Mike Wright wrote: > I hope all I need is a supported adapter. Recommendations? I've tried this with some (but limited) success. Here is my saga: http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/hardware/rtl8192cu/rtl8192cu.html The new ralink dongle it says I got working

fedora as wifi access point; usb recommendation

Hi all, I want to configure an f-box as a wi-fi access point. Anybody out there doing that? Looked at hostapd but am confused about nl80211 requirement. I built from src and it seems to include that driver intrinscally as well as atheros and broadcom support. Does the fedora build of hostap

Re: Free Space fluctuations - Home directory Weirdness

On 11/13/2011 02:37 PM, Gary Waters wrote: > On 11/13/2011 02:33 PM, Martin Airs wrote: >> On Sunday 13 Nov 2011 14:24:12 Gary Waters wrote: >>> I am using Fedora 15. This Am when I opened up firefox and went to my >>> online banking I noticed my saved user profile was gone. When I went to >>> the

Re: chrome package differences

On Sunday 13 Nov 2011 11:47:02 jackson byers wrote: > $ uname -r > 2.6.35.14-103.fc14.i686.PAE > > [root@f14 ~]# yum list installed |grep chrom > google-chrome-beta.i386 > xorg-x11-drv-openchrome.i686 > [root@f14 ~]# > > how are these two related? > > Are they two distinct complete packages of c

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/13/2011 08:30 AM, Alan Cox wrote: >> Erm, no. Each Fedora release has brought in numerous technical >> improvements. Virtualization, clustering, directory services, more and >> more features and performance per release. > > That's a politicians

Re: Free Space fluctuations - Home directory Weirdness

On Sunday 13 Nov 2011 14:37:06 Gary Waters wrote: > > It's 12.4 KB (12739 bytes)... > > Any other suggestions? Hmm, the only other thing i can think of is to use the file size view in konqueror to view your home folder, it should be easy to spot the culprit Martin signature.asc Description: T

chrome package differences

$ uname -r 2.6.35.14-103.fc14.i686.PAE [root@f14 ~]# yum list installed |grep chrom google-chrome-beta.i386 xorg-x11-drv-openchrome.i686 [root@f14 ~]# how are these two related? Are they two distinct complete packages of chrome? Do I need both? Is one a dependency of the other? At the moment

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On 11/14/2011 01:04 AM, JB wrote: > > Perhaps no fork would be required. Even if it is "required", it is a lot of work and I am not sure anyone with just a opinion would be willing to sign up for it. RH could release tight control of Fedora > for its own interest. Be more specific. Describe

Re: Free Space fluctuations - Home directory Weirdness

On 11/13/2011 02:33 PM, Martin Airs wrote: > On Sunday 13 Nov 2011 14:24:12 Gary Waters wrote: >> I am using Fedora 15. This Am when I opened up firefox and went to my >> online banking I noticed my saved user profile was gone. When I went to >> the weather channel's site my firefox security kept a

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

Bruno Wolff III wolff.to> writes: > > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:45:34 +, > JB gmail.com> wrote: > > Some from an independent Fedora devs, others from other distros by > > adoption of > > those that are useful and not conflicting with its goals. > > That is unlikely to happen. More likel

Re: Free Space fluctuations - Home directory Weirdness

On Sunday 13 Nov 2011 14:24:12 Gary Waters wrote: > I am using Fedora 15. This Am when I opened up firefox and went to my > online banking I noticed my saved user profile was gone. When I went to > the weather channel's site my firefox security kept asking me for my > main password, which was weird

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/13/2011 11:16 AM, JB wrote: > ? yahoo.co.jp> writes: > >> ... >> The IT market is massively overweight, >> overvalued and engages in enormously wasteful development practices >> right now. Open source development for the most common of s

Free Space fluctuations - Home directory Weirdness

I am using Fedora 15. This Am when I opened up firefox and went to my online banking I noticed my saved user profile was gone. When I went to the weather channel's site my firefox security kept asking me for my main password, which was weird since that never happened before. I also noticed the

Re: Feroda for server

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011, Benjamin wrote: > do i go with RHEL 6 64 bit ? Or one of the clones such as CentOS or Scientific Linux, if you don't need the support and don't want to pay the license fee. Michael Young -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change s

Re: SystemD - F-16

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:05:47 -0200, AC (Andre) wrote: > Maybe if there > was a similar documentation explaining to "old dogs" (myself included) how > to do SysV tasks the systemd way, transition would be easier. I know the > information is probably already on all the manpages somehow, but I'm > ta

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On 11/14/2011 12:16 AM, inode0 wrote: > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 11/13/2011 11:57 PM, inode0 wrote: >>> They are affected by many of the changes. That is why. >> >> How is a desktop user affected by new clustering technology? You aren't >> making any sense to

Re: SystemD - F-16

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:55:55 +, MC (mike) wrote: > I would like to see something in systemctl to achieve what used to be > done with "service iptables save" - as another poster already said one > can manually do: > iptables-save > /etc/sysconfig/iptables > > Most daemon controls were done wit

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/13/2011 11:57 PM, inode0 wrote: >> They are affected by many of the changes. That is why. > > How is a desktop user affected by new clustering technology?  You aren't > making any sense to me now You really can't think of any changes

Re: Little Yellow Boxes

On Sunday 13 Nov 2011 09:56:32 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > Deleting a note isn't so easy; there's been a fair amount of discussion > on the web about how to remove widgets, none of it informative. I would > have thought that if a note is right clicked, a menu would appear with > an option to delete

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On 11/13/2011 11:57 PM, inode0 wrote: > > They are affected by many of the changes. That is why. How is a desktop user affected by new clustering technology? You aren't making any sense to me now > I live in a larger ecosystem so of course I do care. But in this > context saying other communi

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On 11/13/2011 01:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/13/2011 11:34 PM, inode0 wrote: value to the Fedora desktop user are two very different things. >>> >>> False dichotomy. >> >> It is only false if you assume I meant the groups to be mutually >> exclusive, which I did not mean since I am an

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/13/2011 11:34 PM, inode0 wrote: value to the Fedora desktop user are two very different things. >>> >>> False dichotomy. >> >> It is only false if you assume I meant the groups to be mutually >> exclusive, which I did not mean si

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On 11/13/2011 11:34 PM, inode0 wrote: >>> value to the Fedora desktop user are two very different things. >> >> False dichotomy. > > It is only false if you assume I meant the groups to be mutually > exclusive, which I did not mean since I am an example of a user in > both groups. We do however ha

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

Alan Cox lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes: > ... > But clustering and directory services, like forcing LVM on hapless end > users are really irrelevant to most. LVM wasn't a big deal for those who > knew better - disable it on install and your disk I/O improves, ... Be blessed :-) You reminded me of

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/13/2011 09:14 PM, inode0 wrote: > >> You are both correct but you are looking at the result from different >> perspectives. Many technical improvements do happen and they are >> admired by those who *later* use them in an enterprise d

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

> "Joe" == Joe Zeff writes: Joe> I've used preupgrade on both my desktop and laptop for the last Joe> several upgrades and all has gone well. Yes, I did have to Joe> expand /boot once and once I had to tell grub to start the Joe> upgrade at boot, but compared to the type of t

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On 11/13/2011 10:41 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > >> Those are *not* just statistics on downloads. > > I appreciate that - but popularity is a lagging indicator in general. Whether popularity should even be a consideration depends on the goals of the project however I should also note the statistics pag

Re: Little Yellow Boxes

On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 17:05 +, Martin Airs wrote: > On Saturday 12 Nov 2011 18:40:20 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > Ever since my upgrade to Fedora-16, whenever I center click on the > > background of KDE running the activity "Search and Launch" I get a small > > yellow box at the bottom of the sc

Re: SystemD - F-16

On 11/13/2011 10:07 PM, Fedora User wrote: > SystemD fixes what weren't broke ;-) Seriously. It's easier to > eliminate it all and just script everything in rc.local. Not for any serious distribution developer or system administrator and btw, it is spelled "systemd" Rahul -- users mailing list

Re: Feroda for server

On 11/13/2011 11:09 PM, Benjamin wrote: > Hi, > > do i go with RHEL 6 64 bit ? Hard to give blanket answers without knowing more about the considerations for your deployment but yes, 64-bit would generally be preferable. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On 11/13/2011 09:14 PM, inode0 wrote: > You are both correct but you are looking at the result from different > perspectives. Many technical improvements do happen and they are > admired by those who *later* use them in an enterprise distribution. > At the same time many of those same improvements

wine direct rendering under F16?

Dear users, Is anyone else experiencing a big slow down with wine in F16 c/f F15? I am not sure how to debug, but 'Settlers IV' is a factor 10 slowed down. Starting it says: wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wineboot.exe" err:process:start_wineboot failed to start wineboot, e

Re: Disabling touchpad on Dell Latitude with XFCE

Hello Rick, On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 11/11/2011 10:27 AM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: >>      Hello, >> >> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: >>> Â I now found that apparently, I have a MultiTouch touchpad. Dell even >>> offers a driver

Re: Feroda for server

On 11/13/2011 10:49 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Benjamin > wrote: Hi, I want to deploy high squid proxy in our production environment in which we have online 12000 users and 800 mbps bandwith. So for that we plann

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

On 11/13/2011 05:35 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Ralf Corsepius writes: > >> On 11/13/2011 03:45 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 07:15:20 +, >> > JB wrote: >> >> >> >> every Fedora release is going downhill ... >> >> > If you are referring to quality, I disagree that the

Re: Feroda for server

> > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Benjamin wrote: > Hi, > > I want to deploy high squid proxy in our production environment in which > we have online 12000 users and 800 mbps bandwith. > > So for that we planning for high end h/w with linux os. > > Does fedora is good for our requirement or d

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

夜神　岩男 yahoo.co.jp> writes: > ... > The IT market is massively overweight, > overvalued and engages in enormously wasteful development practices > right now. Open source development for the most common of software > system elements + a revenue stream based on hardware sales and computing > se

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

> Those are *not* just statistics on downloads. I appreciate that - but popularity is a lagging indicator in general. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedor

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On 11/13/2011 08:35 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > It depends on where you're standing. If you follow the well-trodden > path, of always doing a fresh install, not upgrading, and always taking > the default filesystem layout, and only importing /home from the > previous version, you'll be fine. I've

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