Re: Building X11R6.8 in Fedora 15 - Flex not found

2011-09-26 Thread Weather
Doug Kuvaas wrote: >I am trying to build an older version of X Server on Fedora 15 to >allow me to run a legacy application. Fedora 8, which functions >correctly for our application, will not install on a new computer for >some reason, presumably because the new hardware uses UEFI, and Fedora

Re: Building X11R6.8 in Fedora 15 - Flex not found

2011-09-26 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
X11 is supposed to be upwards binary compatible. If it won't run old applications, you should file a bug with Fedora. If you can figure out what the difference is between the old X and the new X that enables your app to run on the old X, mention that in your bug report. -- Don Quixote de la Man

Re: Building X11R6.8 in Fedora 15 - Flex not found

2011-09-26 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 09/26/2011 10:15 PM, Doug Kuvaas wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote: >> On 09/26/2011 09:49 PM, Doug Kuvaas wrote: >>> >>> I am trying to build an older version of X Server on Fedora 15 to >>> allow me to run a legacy application. Fedora 8, which functions >>> correc

Pavilion dv6-3225dx under F14 -- mouse problems

2011-09-26 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Hello to all: I have a HP Pavilion dv6-3225dx that was installed with Win7 and I am trying to dual-boot with F14. I've managed to do that, but I am seeing totally wacko action out of the mouse (which is a touchpad with a movement area and two "buttons" below"). The long and short of it is two-

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread John Aldrich
On Mon September 26 2011, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/26/2011 01:35 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > If I understand, right click on desk top or terminal to > > change color, image, etc. > > > > Bob > > The problem is there's no way to browse for an image

Help with git and gitweb

2011-09-26 Thread Leonardo
hello everyone, i am using fedora 14 and trying to share git projects over http. to create the projects are quite easy, install gitweb too, the problem is what to do on /etc/gitweb.conf and /etc/httpd/conf.d/git.conf in order to point to a folder with some git projects inside. any help is welcom

Re: fsck exits with error status, even though no errors are found

2011-09-26 Thread JD
On 09/26/2011 06:49 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 09/26/2011 06:29 PM, JD wrote: >> On 09/26/2011 06:07 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> On 09/26/2011 05:55 PM, JD wrote: On 09/26/2011 01:49 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 09/26/2011 01:25 PM, JD wrote: >> On 09/26/2011 12:09 PM, Rick Stevens w

Re: fsck exits with error status, even though no errors are found

2011-09-26 Thread Rick Stevens
On 09/26/2011 06:29 PM, JD wrote: > On 09/26/2011 06:07 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 09/26/2011 05:55 PM, JD wrote: >>> On 09/26/2011 01:49 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 09/26/2011 01:25 PM, JD wrote: > On 09/26/2011 12:09 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 09/26/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote:

Re: fsck exits with error status, even though no errors are found

2011-09-26 Thread JD
On 09/26/2011 06:07 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 09/26/2011 05:55 PM, JD wrote: >> On 09/26/2011 01:49 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> On 09/26/2011 01:25 PM, JD wrote: On 09/26/2011 12:09 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 09/26/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote: >> kernel-2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686 >> >

Re: LXDE is an acceptable substitute for Gnome 2

2011-09-26 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 09:17 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 24.09.2011 03:22, schrieb Craig White: > > clearly the best way not to interrupt your workflow is not to upgrade at > > all... who is being stupid here? > > so you recommend in other words using F4 after EOL in december this year > ei

Re: fsck exits with error status, even though no errors are found

2011-09-26 Thread Rick Stevens
On 09/26/2011 05:55 PM, JD wrote: > On 09/26/2011 01:49 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 09/26/2011 01:25 PM, JD wrote: >>> On 09/26/2011 12:09 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 09/26/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote: > kernel-2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686 > > During boot, when the time comes for fsck'ing >

Re: fsck exits with error status, even though no errors are found

2011-09-26 Thread JD
On 09/26/2011 01:49 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 09/26/2011 01:25 PM, JD wrote: >> On 09/26/2011 12:09 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> On 09/26/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote: kernel-2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686 During boot, when the time comes for fsck'ing the file systems, whatever script is d

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread suvayu ali
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > The problem is there's no way to browse for an image, you're stuck with > the stock ones unless you know where they're stored and add another one. That is not correct. Just click on the + button below the shown wallpapers, this will present you

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin".. Try building your own water cooling from junk...

2011-09-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/26/2011 04:38 PM, Linda McLeod wrote: > What if someone built a tower in a cylinder shape..? There's a company that specializes in doing exactly that, but I think you'll find their products to be a tad pricy: Cray. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or chang

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin".. Try building your own water cooling from junk...

2011-09-26 Thread Linda McLeod
Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"... "I've not really wanted to get into the expense of trying a liquid cooled system. But the idea of a silent system, one using heatpipes and massive heatsinks appeals to me, because I miss having a silent workroom." I think the p

Upgrading to kde-4.7 on FC 14

2011-09-26 Thread George R Goffe
Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to upgrade to KDE-4.7 on my FC 14 system. Could someone give me a hint/clue please? Regards and thanks, George...   "It's not what you know that hurts you, It's what you know that ain't so." Wil Rogers... Wil would say, "STIFF THE FED"!!!-- users mailing list

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-26 Thread Roger
On 26/09/11 19:38, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them >> free and one can make a strong case that therefore Fedora developers >> have no responsibility to listen to user's complaints. >> >> Howev

Re: Upgrading to kde-4.7 on FC 14

2011-09-26 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 5:59 PM, George R Goffe wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to figure out how to upgrade to KDE-4.7 on my FC 14 system. > Could someone give me a hint/clue please? > Regards and thanks, > George... You could try rebuild from source RPMS of the version you need. When you run into oth

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread Steven Stern
On 09/26/2011 11:11 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > This morning I decided to try the various desktop environments available > to me, just to see how I react to each. Now nothing I am going to say is > designed to knock any particular environment. By now everyone knows I > have a number of complaints ab

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-26 Thread Roger
On 26/09/11 19:38, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them >> free and one can make a strong case that therefore Fedora developers >> have no responsibility to listen to user's complaints. >> >> Howev

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread John Aldrich
On Mon September 26 2011, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > Ok, I tried XFCE. I find it far superior to LXDE. You can find things in > a reasonable fashion. It shares with LXDE the problem of not being able > to change the backgrounds. I think people who balk at Gnome 3 would find > it easy to use. Adding

Re: fsck exits with error status, even though no errors are found

2011-09-26 Thread JD
On 09/26/2011 01:49 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 09/26/2011 01:25 PM, JD wrote: >> On 09/26/2011 12:09 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> On 09/26/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote: kernel-2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686 During boot, when the time comes for fsck'ing the file systems, whatever script is d

Re: Building X11R6.8 in Fedora 15 - Flex not found

2011-09-26 Thread Doug Kuvaas
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote: > On 09/26/2011 09:49 PM, Doug Kuvaas wrote: >> >> I am trying to build an older version of X Server on Fedora 15 to >> allow me to run a legacy application.  Fedora 8, which functions >> correctly for our application, will not install on a new

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread Rick Stevens
On 09/26/2011 01:48 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/26/2011 01:35 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> If I understand, right click on desk top or terminal to >> change color, image, etc. >> >> Bob > > The problem is there's no way to browse for an image, you're stuck with

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 26/09/11 16:48, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/26/2011 01:35 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> If I understand, right click on desk top or terminal to >> change color, image, etc. >> >> Bob > The problem is there's no way to browse for an image, you're stuck with > the

Re: Building X11R6.8 in Fedora 15 - Flex not found

2011-09-26 Thread Rick Stevens
On 09/26/2011 01:49 PM, Doug Kuvaas wrote: > I am trying to build an older version of X Server on Fedora 15 to > allow me to run a legacy application. Fedora 8, which functions > correctly for our application, will not install on a new computer for > some reason, presumably because the new hardwar

Re: Building X11R6.8 in Fedora 15 - Flex not found

2011-09-26 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 09/26/2011 09:49 PM, Doug Kuvaas wrote: > I am trying to build an older version of X Server on Fedora 15 to > allow me to run a legacy application. Fedora 8, which functions > correctly for our application, will not install on a new computer for > some reason, presumably because the new hardwar

Building X11R6.8 in Fedora 15 - Flex not found

2011-09-26 Thread Doug Kuvaas
I am trying to build an older version of X Server on Fedora 15 to allow me to run a legacy application. Fedora 8, which functions correctly for our application, will not install on a new computer for some reason, presumably because the new hardware uses UEFI, and Fedora 15 does not correctly run t

Re: fsck exits with error status, even though no errors are found

2011-09-26 Thread Rick Stevens
On 09/26/2011 01:25 PM, JD wrote: > On 09/26/2011 12:09 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 09/26/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote: >>> kernel-2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686 >>> >>> During boot, when the time comes for fsck'ing >>> the file systems, whatever script is doing that, >>> is exiting with an error status, even

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/26/2011 01:35 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > If I understand, right click on desk top or terminal to > change color, image, etc. > > Bob The problem is there's no way to browse for an image, you're stuck with the stock ones unless you know where they're stor

Re: Fedora14: Very very slow NFS write performance

2011-09-26 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 09/26/2011 01:08 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > On 09/25/2011 05:45 AM, Terry Barnaby wrote: >> Anyone know why the NFS write performance with Fedora14 may be slow (without >> async) ? >> I have Gigabit networking which is all working fine and the systems in >> question >> have been runn

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread Ranjan Maitra
> > Ok, I tried XFCE. I find it far superior to LXDE. You can find things in > a reasonable fashion. It shares with LXDE the problem of not being able > to change the backgrounds. I think people who balk at Gnome 3 would find > it easy to use. Adding things to the panel are much easier than with >

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 26/09/11 16:19, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 11:43 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 09/26/2011 09:11 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >>> So this morning I tried to get around in LXDE and KDE. I found I quickly >>> got lost in both. >> Try XFCE. You may find it easier to use, and in any cas

Re: fsck exits with error status, even though no errors are found

2011-09-26 Thread JD
On 09/26/2011 12:09 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 09/26/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote: >> kernel-2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686 >> >> During boot, when the time comes for fsck'ing >> the file systems, whatever script is doing that, >> is exiting with an error status, even though no >> errors are displayed, and I

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 12:49 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/26/2011 12:13 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > Yea, this has crazy variants everywhere. To me, restart is not > > a variant of shutdown either, yet the vast majority of menu configs > > seem to want me to click shutdown so I can then click restar

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 11:43 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/26/2011 09:11 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > So this morning I tried to get around in LXDE and KDE. I found I quickly > > got lost in both. > > Try XFCE. You may find it easier to use, and in any case I'd be > interested in your opinion of

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/26/2011 12:13 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > Yea, this has crazy variants everywhere. To me, restart is not > a variant of shutdown either, yet the vast majority of menu configs > seem to want me to click shutdown so I can then click restart. It could be worse. You could have to click on Start to

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:01:51 -0500 Aaron Konstam wrote: > It is not to big a problem. But being simple minded I want an entry > called Shutdown. To me Shutdown is not a subset of logout. Yea, this has crazy variants everywhere. To me, restart is not a variant of shutdown either, yet the vast majo

Re: fsck exits with error status, even though no errors are found

2011-09-26 Thread Rick Stevens
On 09/26/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote: > kernel-2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686 > > During boot, when the time comes for fsck'ing > the file systems, whatever script is doing that, > is exiting with an error status, even though no > errors are displayed, and I am prompted to either > enter the root password, or

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/26/2011 09:11 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > So this morning I tried to get around in LXDE and KDE. I found I quickly > got lost in both. Try XFCE. You may find it easier to use, and in any case I'd be interested in your opinion of it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To un

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"...

2011-09-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/26/2011 03:28 AM, Tim wrote: > But it's not just*a* fan, you have PSU fans, CPU fans, and sometimes a > case fan. A box with one large fan ducted to all the other heatsinks > makes things a lot quieter, and more reliable. I don't know about anybody else on this list, but that suggestion ma

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 17:49 +, JB wrote: > Aaron Konstam sbcglobal.net> writes: > > > ... > > So this morning I tried to get around in LXDE and KDE. I found I quickly > > got lost in both. > > Will try to help :-) > > > In LXDE I could not get LXTerm (I think that its name) > > to be anythi

fsck exits with error status, even though no errors are found

2011-09-26 Thread JD
kernel-2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686 During boot, when the time comes for fsck'ing the file systems, whatever script is doing that, is exiting with an error status, even though no errors are displayed, and I am prompted to either enter the root password, or type Contrl-D to continue. Cntrl-D simply reboo

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread JB
Aaron Konstam sbcglobal.net> writes: > ... > So this morning I tried to get around in LXDE and KDE. I found I quickly > got lost in both. Will try to help :-) > In LXDE I could not get LXTerm (I think that its name) > to be anything but transparent, rather than black letters on a white > backgr

Re: Unable to boot from live CD or install from DVD

2011-09-26 Thread gpe
On 09/26/2011 05:39 PM, Vijayan wrote: > All give the same result. The CD/DVD begins to boot, some text > messages appear and finally the CD/DVD activity stops with the > line [ 1.319497] [] kernel_thread_helper+0*6*0*10. You can always try to add the acpi=off as kernel parameter. (Any key to int

Re: gnome3 - the funny side

2011-09-26 Thread John Aldrich
On Mon September 26 2011, Michael Ekstrand wrote: > > Actually, the point is that they *are* core functions, and should > therefore not need an applet to be efficient and discoverable. > Ahh... Gotcha. > > Log out and lock screen are built in to the shell (account menu at top > right, keyboard sh

Unable to boot from live CD or install from DVD

2011-09-26 Thread Vijayan
Hello, I have been using Fedora (KDE spin) for quite some time. There was absolutely no problem till Fedora 14. But now when I try to install Fedora 15, the live CD does not boot. I have tried Gnome Live CD and also the DVD. I even tried the pre-upgrade procedure. All give the same re

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:11:38 -0500 Aaron Konstam wrote: > In each case, some time must be spent initially > to figure out how to do things. For great fun, try running ubuntu unity: It has drunk the mac koolaid and moved the menubar out of all the apps, but to make things even more interesting, it

Comparitive Desktop Environments

2011-09-26 Thread Aaron Konstam
This morning I decided to try the various desktop environments available to me, just to see how I react to each. Now nothing I am going to say is designed to knock any particular environment. By now everyone knows I have a number of complaints about Gnome 3. So this morning I tried to get around i

Re: F15: Erased rpm database!! What now?

2011-09-26 Thread Alan Cox
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:19:28 -0500 Dave Ihnat wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 03:01:16PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > This is of no use whatsoever in this situation, it doesn't help > > reconstructing the accidentally erased rpmdb contents. > > <> > > Hmm...single point of failure...Bad T

Re: gnome3 - the funny side

2011-09-26 Thread Michael Ekstrand
On 09/26/2011 08:48 AM, John Aldrich wrote: > On Mon September 26 2011, Ian Malone wrote: >> On the basis that you need to laugh every so often. >> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/AppletsTransition: >> >> Desktop design copouts >> >> Then there are applets that are about making it marginally faste

Re: F15: Erased rpm database!! What now?

2011-09-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.09.2011 15:19, schrieb Dave Ihnat: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 03:01:16PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: >> This is of no use whatsoever in this situation, it doesn't help >> reconstructing the accidentally erased rpmdb contents. >> <> > > Hmm...single point of failure...Bad Thing(TM). > >

Re: LXDE is an acceptable substitute for Gnome 2

2011-09-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.09.2011 11:13, schrieb Alexander Volovics: > And all these other 'changes' making laptops much more > difficult to use, such as say > - UEFI only for multi-boot systems in times of virtualization where you can even run an ESXi5 in VMware-Workstation and inside this x86_64 guests with good

Re: LXDE is an acceptable substitute for Gnome 2

2011-09-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.09.2011 19:23, schrieb pct...@mybellybutton.com: > I find it ironic that the people that were screaming about KDE when they went > this route are > defending Gnome for going the same route. i do not! why? because it has taken years to get the epic-fail of KDE 4.0 corrected one th

Re: LXDE is an acceptable substitute for Gnome 2

2011-09-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.09.2011 16:26, schrieb Genes MailLists: > Its not the users - its the vehicle - when I'm using a phone/tablet > i'll use the tablet version... when I'm using my multi core server I > have no touch sensitive screen ... when I'm flying a plane I'll use > different controls than driving a ca

Re: LXDE is an acceptable substitute for Gnome 2

2011-09-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.09.2011 13:46, schrieb Craig White: > Whether people are programmers or not is decidedly not the point here. > The GNOME developers have made a decision to revamp the UI to account > for the fact that computers are extending beyond the model borne out of > Xerox PARC... a keyboard, screen a

Re: LXDE is an acceptable substitute for Gnome 2

2011-09-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.09.2011 03:22, schrieb Craig White: > On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 06:16 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 18.09.2011 02:21, schrieb Craig White: >> >>> People who are getting worked up about the current state of GNOME 3 are >>> just being stupid... they have other DM's to choose from >> >> thi

Re: Minor update question

2011-09-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.09.2011 19:32, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 09/21/2011 11:42 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> please try "yum update" and post output, witout exactly outputs >> everybody must guess waht you mean, anyways "ntfsprogs" gets >> some "replaces" updates the last time what yum would show in >> a clean way >

Re: Minor update question

2011-09-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.09.2011 16:55, schrieb JB: > Reindl Harald thelounge.net> writes: > >> ... >> P.S.: the peopole who decided to moderate my mails to the list >> should consider revert this or push them a little faster instead >> of days and weeks later or silently drop them >> >> normally a moderated lis

Re: F15: Erased rpm database!! What now?

2011-09-26 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 08:52 -0500, Dave Ihnat wrote: > Reinstallation is not really what anyone would call a production recovery. > For one thing, it brings a system "back" in a virgin state, with any > generated critical data lost. Now if you backup correctly. You may somehow lose small amounts

Re: F15: Erased rpm database!! What now?

2011-09-26 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 09:08:35AM -0430, Robert Marcano wrote: > It is not a single point of failure, your system works even with the rpm > database erased, you lose the ability to use rpm appropriately, that is > all. That's a failure, at least in a production environment; if you can't apply u

Re: F15: Erased rpm database!! What now?

2011-09-26 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 09/26/2011 04:19 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 03:01:16PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: >> This is of no use whatsoever in this situation, it doesn't help >> reconstructing the accidentally erased rpmdb contents. >> <> > > Hmm...single point of failure...Bad Thing(TM). > > If t

Re: gnome3 - the funny side

2011-09-26 Thread John Aldrich
On Mon September 26 2011, Ian Malone wrote: > On the basis that you need to laugh every so often. > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/AppletsTransition: > > Desktop design copouts > > Then there are applets that are about making it marginally faster to > do things that should be obvious and fast t

Re: F15: Erased rpm database!! What now?

2011-09-26 Thread Robert Marcano
On 09/26/2011 08:49 AM, Dave Ihnat wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 03:01:16PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: >> This is of no use whatsoever in this situation, it doesn't help >> reconstructing the accidentally erased rpmdb contents. >> <> > > Hmm...single point of failure...Bad Thing(TM). It is n

Re: F15: Erased rpm database!! What now?

2011-09-26 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 03:01:16PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > This is of no use whatsoever in this situation, it doesn't help > reconstructing the accidentally erased rpmdb contents. > <> Hmm...single point of failure...Bad Thing(TM). If this can cause a system to become unusable to the poi

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-26 Thread Michael Cronenworth
suvayu ali wrote: > Not quite: Yes, quite. Please don't snip my e-mails to exclude vital information. $ ldd /opt/google/talkplugin/libnpgoogletalk64.so linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x76562000) libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x7f48f6ead000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/l

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-26 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 03:34:34PM +0200, suvayu ali wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > Native Linux 64-bit binaries are available. > > Not quite: > > $ sudo yum history info 337 > ... > Command Line : update google-talkplugin > ... > Packages Altered: >

Re: Fedora14: Very very slow NFS write performance

2011-09-26 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 09/25/2011 05:45 AM, Terry Barnaby wrote: > Anyone know why the NFS write performance with Fedora14 may be slow (without > async) ? > I have Gigabit networking which is all working fine and the systems in > question > have been running Fedora in various forms for many years. I found NFSv4 to b

Re: F15: Erased rpm database!! What now?

2011-09-26 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 09/25/2011 11:28 PM, g wrote: > On 09/25/2011 08:15 PM, sean darcy wrote: >> Doing something really silly, which erased /var/lib/rpm/. Sigh. >> >> Found http://www.sharp-tools.net/archives/000765.html which talks about >> recovering from an erasure by using a log file /var/lib/rpmpkgs that a >>

Re: Evince prining problem -

2011-09-26 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 12:28 +0200, Antonio M wrote: > just because I pushed a Reply to all and not a simple Reply... :-( Well the "post to this list, only" message is more about the original poster than the respondent. But it does highlight yet another problem with the "reply to all" feature not

gnome3 - the funny side

2011-09-26 Thread Ian Malone
On the basis that you need to laugh every so often. http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/AppletsTransition: Desktop design copouts Then there are applets that are about making it marginally faster to do things that should be obvious and fast to do without an applet to do them. If these are useful, we

Re: Opensource dicom viewer

2011-09-26 Thread Kevin H. Hobbs
> Do any of you have an opensource dicom viewer that works on F15? Have you looked at Slicer? http://www.slicer.org/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedorap

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"...

2011-09-26 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2011-09-25 at 10:08 -0700, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > 32-bit ARM or PowerPC systems don't need fans. If you want a quiet > computer, buy an old PowerPC Mac used and run a PowerPC Linux distro > on it. Doesn't Fedora support PowerPC? I'm not in a position to get yet another compute

Re: Evince prining problem -

2011-09-26 Thread Antonio M
2011/9/26 Tim : > On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 06:45 +, g wrote: >> when posting to tech support; >> >> }> To: Community support for Fedora users >> >> >> }> Cc: Fedora List >> >> >> please use one or other address, not both. >> >> >> proper address is; >> >>   users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Actu

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"...

2011-09-26 Thread Tim
Joe Zeff: > A friend of mine suggests leaving an empty slot between each two cards > whenever possible for better ventilation. That can help, though you can't do that with some PC, because of how the IRQs are shared between slots, and motherboard hardware (you may need to put certain cards in cer

Re: Evince prining problem -

2011-09-26 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 06:45 +, g wrote: > when posting to tech support; > > }> To: Community support for Fedora users > > > }> Cc: Fedora List > > > please use one or other address, not both. > > > proper address is; > > users@lists.fedoraproject.org Actually, the fedora-l...

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-26 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them > free and one can make a strong case that therefore Fedora developers > have no responsibility to listen to user's complaints. > > However, the Fedora users provide a service to the