On 06/26/2011 02:41 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> I'm not looking to have the last word, but you do keep asking questions.
> If you'll stop asking, I'll have nothing to answer, will I?
Good point... Although I feel the second question, and maybe even the
first one, in my last message was rhetorical.
On 06/25/2011 11:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Now, would you like to get back our regularly scheduled programming or
> do you really need to have the last word.
I'm not looking to have the last word, but you do keep asking questions.
If you'll stop asking, I'll have nothing to answer, will I?
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On 06/26/2011 02:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/25/2011 10:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Yet, I guess it is good to know that as long as people make grammatical
>> errors and spellings mistakes as long as they don't correct themselves
>> you'll keep quiet about it.
> Please note that *I'm* not the on
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> you do have to worry about it
> rewriting your grub bootloader.
Absolutely correct!
I boot into rescue mode and reinstall the grub bootloader to the MBR of
/dev/sda. This is the only little 'glitch'. Once Windows is installed, however,
it has no further effect.
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On 06/25/2011 10:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Yet, I guess it is good to know that as long as people make grammatical
> errors and spellings mistakes as long as they don't correct themselves
> you'll keep quiet about it.
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On 06/26/2011 07:14 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/25/2011 03:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Well, now that you've established yourself as the "writer" on this list
>> and maybe the expert and arbiter of all things related to American
>> English (British English too?)
> For someone who didn't take offens
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 17:39 +, Mark Eggers wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:18:01 +, Mark Eggers wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:15:39 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >
> >> Please test and provide feedback:
> >>
> >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-shell-3.0.2-4.fc15
> >>
On 06/25/2011 04:58 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
> Having tried (briefly!) gnome-shell on Fedora 14, its clear that I
> won't be using it any time soon. Seems to me that the obvious solution
> is to replace it with (my preferred) metacity as the default window
> manager. Has anyone tried this?
Be cau
On Sunday 26 June 2011 02:33:10 Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> I don't have to worry about the windows
> installer deleting or formatting my fedora partitions.
A bit OT, but if you ever install windows, you *do* have to worry about it
rewriting your grub bootloader. Windows doesn't see any of the
Frode writes:
HD, 1st partition is WinXP). I use manual setup of partitions, as I have
always done, planning to use the following approximate scheme:
sda1 - primary - ntfs - 45 GB - winXP
sda2 - primary - ext2 - 200 MB - /boot
sda5 - extended - ext4 - 7 GB - /home
sda6 - exte
On 06/25/2011 06:10 PM, Frode wrote:
> Questions:
>- 'Olde' knowledge says that only one primary partition can be visible
> to the system at one time. Is this not longer true?
IIRC the problem is that there's only room in the partition table for
four partitions, so if you want to have more, y
On 06/25/2011 05:06 PM, Craig White wrote:
> This of course doesn't even begin to cover the many who frequent this
> list for whom English is not their native language and might be put off
> by self-appointed jackasses defenders of grammatical correctness.
Which is why I don't normally comment on
Frode wrote:
> Questions:
> 'Olde' knowledge says that only one primary partition can be visible
> to the system at one time. Is this not longer true?
Don't quote me (DQM), but I think this only applies to Windows. DQM, but I
think grub doesn't care. I boot systems installed on partitions that
Hi. I've searched release notes, bugzilla and news archives for an
answer to this, but haven't found one. I have found one other query on
fedoraforum, but no solution. (
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-259666.html )
I started installing f14 on a machine (P4, 2GB ram, 30GB free
Geoffrey Leach writes:
Having tried (briefly!) gnome-shell on Fedora 14, its clear that I
won't be using it any time soon. Seems to me that the obvious solution
is to replace it with (my preferred) metacity as the default window
manager. Has anyone tried this?
The metacity fallback desktop on
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 16:14 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> Go for it. Unlike some people I know (in person, that is) I don't
> consider myself perfect and I certainly make my share of mistakes. And,
> of course, you can't correct your mistakes if everybody's afraid to
> point them out.
this li
Having tried (briefly!) gnome-shell on Fedora 14, its clear that I
won't be using it any time soon. Seems to me that the obvious solution
is to replace it with (my preferred) metacity as the default window
manager. Has anyone tried this?
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On 06/25/2011 03:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Well, now that you've established yourself as the "writer" on this list
> and maybe the expert and arbiter of all things related to American
> English (British English too?)
For someone who didn't take offense, you're getting surprisingly
belligerent, y
On 06/26/2011 06:16 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/25/2011 02:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> So, you are suggesting I am a "poor" writer due to my writing which you
>> have judged?
> No. I'm saying that I have no way of knowing, other than what I see in
> your posts. And, for the record, much of your
On 06/25/2011 02:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> So, you are suggesting I am a "poor" writer due to my writing which you
> have judged?
No. I'm saying that I have no way of knowing, other than what I see in
your posts. And, for the record, much of your writing is excellent, as
the vicar said to the
On 06/24/2011 11:18 AM, L wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
> wrote:
> After upgraded to fedora 15, most are working well. The gnome 3
> desktop are weired. It frequently freeze, not responding to mouse or
> keyboard. I have to login a virtual term (alt
Have
livecd-tools-14.2-1.fc14.i686
installed
# /usr/bin/livecd-iso-to-disk --help
Usage: readlink [OPTION]... FILE
Print value of a symbolic link or canonical file name
-f, --canonicalizecanonicalize by following every symlink in
every component of
On 06/26/2011 05:43 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/25/2011 02:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Are you suggesting that I am unaware of that?
>>
> Judging only by your writing, I've no idea.
So, you are suggesting I am a "poor" writer due to my writing which you
have judged?
>> Are you also aware that poi
On 06/25/2011 02:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Are you suggesting that I am unaware of that?
>
Judging only by your writing, I've no idea.
> Are you also aware that pointing out spelling errors and grammar errors
> of people on mailing lists has long been considered bad form?
Usually by people who
>> You first message showed an F14 stanza (no chainloading).
>> Try calling that; just copy it to your F13 grub.conf
>> and then choose it instead of the F13 default
> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
> That's *almost* what I did before starting this thread.
> I'd thought that I had to copy ot
On 06/26/2011 03:55 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> I was pointing out that a spelling checker can't catch everything
> because it doesn't know when you've used the wrong word but spelled it
> correctly. I am, among other things, a writer (not published yet, alas)
> and I find some of the poor spelling a
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 11:28 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> I'd thought the root command just determined what the kernel made / .
> Having reread the info entry on root,
> I'm still a little fuzzy on what it does.
In the grub.conf (or menu.lst files, they're the same file), the root
parameter in
On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 13:01 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 11:59:12AM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
> > >> 2) lspci
> > >
> > > (mcpierce@mcpierce-laptop:~)$ lspci
> > >
> > > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT216 [Quadro FX
> > > 880M] (rev a2
On 06/25/2011 12:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/26/2011 01:53 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> Have you considered poorfraeding your posts before sending them? It
>> will catch most of the things the spelling checker can't. HTH, HAND.
>
> What is your point?
I was pointing out that a spelling checker ca
On 06/26/2011 01:53 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> Have you considered poorfraeding your posts before sending them? It
> will catch most of the things the spelling checker can't. HTH, HAND.
What is your point?
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On 06/25/2011 04:14 AM, Anoop wrote:
>>
>> downgrading NetworkManager gets thing working again ... nm is
>> complaining bitterly in /var/log/messages ...
> I hit same issue today. Then updated 'kde-plasma-networkmanagement'
> from 'updates-testing' and the issue went away.
>
> Thanks,
> Anoop
On 06/25/2011 12:11 PM, jackson byers wrote:
> 2) I have never found it necessary to edit /etc/mtab
You should never, under any circumstances edit /etc/mtab. It's a list
of what partitions are currently mounted, where and with what options,
not a configuration file. The file to edit if you wan
>> I tried adding
>>title chain14
>> rootnoverify (hd1,8)
>> makeactive
>> chainloader +1
>> to grub.conf .
>> When I tried to use it, I got
>> Error 18 : Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS.
>>Could the problem with using my boot partition with my
>>F14 be that
On 06/25/2011 01:39 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
.
>>
>>
>
> Thank you very much Gene :)
>
> # yum update kde-plasma-networkmanagement --enablerepo=updates-testing
>
> fixed it for me.
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio
Great - thank Anoop :-)
Now that you both tested it - I guess I'll go ahead
On 06/25/2011 03:02 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Of course i meant yum Spell check strikes again.
Have you considered poorfraeding your posts before sending them? It
will catch most of the things the spelling checker can't. HTH, HAND.
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--- On Sat, 6/25/11, Genes MailLists wrote:
> From: Genes MailLists
> Subject: Re: kde-desktop crashes after update / NetworkManager
> To: "Community support for Fedora users"
> Cc: "Antonio Olivares"
> Date: Saturday, June 25, 2011, 9:45 AM
> On 06/25/2011 12:25 PM, Antonio
> Olivares wrote
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:18:01 +, Mark Eggers wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:15:39 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
>> Please test and provide feedback:
>>
>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-shell-3.0.2-4.fc15
>>
>> This seems to have affected nvidia binary only video driver users.
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:15:39 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Please test and provide feedback:
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-shell-3.0.2-4.fc15
>
> This seems to have affected nvidia binary only video driver users.
>
> kevin
I've been running fine with gnome-shell-3.0.2-3.fc15.
On 06/25/2011 11:26 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
> On 06/25/2011 06:14 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
>> How can I tweak Nautilus so the delete key moves files to trash?
>>
>>
>
> Ctrl Delete
>
I don't want to CTRL DEL. I just want to DEL. Is there a setting for that?
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On 06/25/2011 12:25 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package NetworkManager.i686 1:0.8.999-2.git20110509.fc15 will be a
> downgrade
> --> Processing Dependency: NetworkManager-glib = 1:0.8.999-2.git20110509.fc15
> for package: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.999-2.git20
2011/6/25 Kevin Fenzi :
> Please test and provide feedback:
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-shell-3.0.2-4.fc15
>
> This seems to have affected nvidia binary only video driver users.
This one fixes the issue.
Great to see how fast fixes are coming. :)
Thanks,
Niels
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2011, jackson byers wrote:
> You first message showed an F14 stanza (no chainloading).
> Try calling that; just copy it to your F13 grub.conf
> and then choose it instead of the F13 default
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
That's *almost* what I did before starting this thread.
On 06/25/2011 06:14 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
> How can I tweak Nautilus so the delete key moves files to trash?
>
>
Ctrl Delete
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> Subject: Re: kde-desktop crashes after update / NetworkManager
> To: "Community support for Fedora users"
> Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 9:11 PM
> On 06/24/2011 11:55 PM, Genes
> MailLists wrote:
> > Best I can tell it is ne
26.06.2011, 01:15, "Kevin Fenzi" :
> Please test and provide feedback:
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-shell-3.0.2-4.fc15
>
> This seems to have affected nvidia binary only video driver users.
>
> kevin
I confirm. I use the driver on my desktop computer and today's update brought
Please test and provide feedback:
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On 24 June 2011 23:18, Gary Waters wrote:
> On 06/24/2011 02:48 PM, dexter wrote:
>> On 24 June 2011 18:19, antonio montagnani
>> wrote:
>>> Any update to be removed??
>>
>> Yeah GNOME 3
>> lulz sorry couldnt resist
>>
>> ...dex
>
> LOL! Oh God I spit pepsi into my monitor and laughed so hard m
On 06/25/2011 12:58 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/25/2011 12:11 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
>> On 06/24/2011 11:55 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
>>> Best I can tell it is network manager - as soon as it starts - kde
>>> desktop crashes and goes away .. yikes!
>>>
>> downgrading NetworkManager gets th
On 06/25/2011 07:35 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
> Sorry, here's the full info.
>
> I replaced the old BCM4312 card on my Dell mini 1011 (10v) with:
> 03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless
> Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
>
> First, ABRT caught a crash:
> ar
On 06/25/2011 07:08 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
> [ 30.589243] ath9k :03:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ
> 17
> [ 30.589269] ath9k :03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
> [ 30.594884] ath: address test failed addr: 0x8000 - wr:0x !=
> rd:0x2aaa
> [ 3
Sorry, here's the full info.
I replaced the old BCM4312 card on my Dell mini 1011 (10v) with:
03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network
Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
First, ABRT caught a crash:
architecture: i686
cmdline:ro root=UUID=ea0937eb-db45
Hi.
I have a little problem. I replaced the old BCM4312 card on my Dell mini 1011
(10v) with:
03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network
Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
But it won't work.
First it crashed Linux:
http://pastebin.com/YmEGcPK8
Then I installed
On 06/25/2011 03:11 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 14:46:03 +0200
> Joachim Backes wrote:
>
>> Somebody has already seen this? In each firefox-5 window's titlebar,
>> the title text ends with the character for not representable
>> characters. This independent from the desktop varian
On 06/25/2011 06:31 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote
> Well you are right as I expected you to be. I did not think of creating
> a new user to test your thesis. But I noticed that the Trash folder is
> available through the Files option in the list of favorites which was
> what the OP wanted to know, i.e.,
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 14:46:03 +0200
Joachim Backes wrote:
> Somebody has already seen this? In each firefox-5 window's titlebar,
> the title text ends with the character for not representable
> characters. This independent from the desktop variant used (appears
> in gnome3, xfce,...).
Yep. Alread
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 14:19:58 +1100
Philip Rhoades wrote:
...snip...
> - "init 5" - Fails with "/dev/fb0" does not exist errors (it does
> exist) - the same problem as the previous versions.
Thats actually a cosmetic thing and not the real error. ;)
> I want to try F15 on this machine (it cur
> >
>
> Well you are right as I expected you to be. I did not think of creating
> a new user to test your thesis. But I noticed that the Trash folder is
> available through the Files option in the list of favorites which was
> what the OP wanted to know, i.e., how to find the Trash folder.
Well
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 01:41 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 06/25/2011 01:41 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > I am sure Rahul knows what he is taking about but I could swear that I
> > had icons for computer, home and trash before I installed
> > gnome-tweak-tool.
> >
> > Was I hallucinating? Or thin
Somebody has already seen this? In each firefox-5 window's titlebar, the
title text ends with the character for not representable characters.
This independent from the desktop variant used (appears in gnome3,
xfce,...).
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On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Christoph A. wrote:
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On 06/25/2011 06:55 PM, François Patte wrote:
> Le 25/06/2011 11:48, Ed Greshko a écrit :
> > "François Patte" wrote:
>
> >> evince-2.32.0-4.fc14.i686
>
> > OK, F14. I don't have that running, but what does
>
> > you whatprovides */libgnomebreakpad.so
>
> Not match!
>
I sort of that that wou
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Le 25/06/2011 11:48, Ed Greshko a écrit :
> "François Patte" wrote:
>
>> evince-2.32.0-4.fc14.i686
>
> OK, F14. I don't have that running, but what does
>
> you whatprovides */libgnomebreakpad.so
Not match!
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I had a bad experience upgrading F-14/KDE to F-15.
I upgraded from the F-15 DVD ISO, by NFS from another machine,
after abstracting isolinux/vmlinuz and isolinux/initrd.img
and transferring them to /boot on the target machine, a Thinkpad T43,
and writing a trivial stanza in /etc/grub.conf on this
--- On Fri, 6/24/11, Genes MailLists wrote:
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> Subject: Re: gnome 3 doesn't start any more
> To: "Community support for Fedora users"
> Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 12:01 PM
> On 06/24/2011 02:57 PM, antonio
> montagnani wrote:
> > dexter ha scritto / said the following
Of course i meant yum Spell check strikes again.
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"François Patte" wrote:
>
>evince-2.32.0-4.fc14.i686
OK, F14. I don't have that running, but what does
you whatprovides */libgnomebreakpad.so
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Le 24/06/2011 10:36, Ed Greshko a écrit :
> On 06/24/2011 02:57 PM, François Patte wrote:
>> When launching evince, I get this warning:
>>
>> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "gnomebreakpad": libgnomebreakpad.so
>>
>>
>> Where to find this module?
>>
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 15:18:01 -0500, AK (Aaron) wrote:
> I know this was asked but I don't remember an answer. What program in
> F14 cause that orange sun symbol to tell you updates are available but
> is not working in F15?
>
> I thought it was PackageKit but looking at its web page I see that
>
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> On 06/24/2011 11:55 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
>> Best I can tell it is network manager - as soon as it starts - kde
>> desktop crashes and goes away .. yikes!
>>
>
> downgrading NetworkManager gets thing working again ... nm is
> complai
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