Re: Unable to copy my Kodak Cam Photos

2011-05-30 Thread JD
On 05/30/11 23:13, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/31/2011 02:08 PM, JD wrote: >> Sorry for the false alarm. >> I had forgotten that I had moved those 2 directories >> to a different location, so when I did not see my collection >> there, I thought shotwell clobbered them all. >> Apologies to the shotwel

Re: non-fedora:octave-question(sorry)

2011-05-30 Thread Nermin Celik
Thank you Alessandro. l'll do that :) On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Alessandro Brezzi < alessandro.bre...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2011/5/31 Nermin Celik > >> hi, >> >> firstly apologies to all members for asking a non-fedora question here... >> >> i'm a newbie to octave and would like to plot a b

Re: Unable to copy my Kodak Cam Photos

2011-05-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/31/2011 02:08 PM, JD wrote: > Sorry for the false alarm. > I had forgotten that I had moved those 2 directories > to a different location, so when I did not see my collection > there, I thought shotwell clobbered them all. > Apologies to the shotwell developers This was test of the emergency

Re: Unable to copy my Kodak Cam Photos

2011-05-30 Thread JD
On 05/30/11 22:44, JD wrote: > I can view the list of photos in my Kodak Camera in > /sdb3/home/jd/.gvfs/gphoto2 mount on > usb%3A003,008/store_00010001/DCIM/100V1253 > > I used shotwell (shotwell-0.8.1-3.fc14.i686) > to import all of them. > > I already had 2 large directories of photos in ~/Pict

Re: non-fedora:octave-question(sorry)

2011-05-30 Thread Alessandro Brezzi
2011/5/31 Nermin Celik > hi, > > firstly apologies to all members for asking a non-fedora question here... > > i'm a newbie to octave and would like to plot a bar/frequency graph. > however experiencing > some problems due to my data. > ... nc > Hi Nemim, you can subscribe to the octave specifi

Unable to copy my Kodak Cam Photos

2011-05-30 Thread JD
I can view the list of photos in my Kodak Camera in /sdb3/home/jd/.gvfs/gphoto2 mount on usb%3A003,008/store_00010001/DCIM/100V1253 I used shotwell (shotwell-0.8.1-3.fc14.i686) to import all of them. I already had 2 large directories of photos in ~/Pictures/2011 and in ~/Pictures/2010 However,

Re: btrfs advice?

2011-05-30 Thread Michael Wiktowy
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > On 05/30/2011 01:13 AM, Michael Wiktowy wrote: >> >> >> 2) I see (using 'mount') that the root is btrfs along with some (what >> appear to be) subvolumes for /tmp, /var/tmp and /home yet 'btrfs >> device scan' shows no information. Does '

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-30 Thread Robert Nichols
On 05/30/2011 09:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 05:42 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Tom Horsley wrote: >> >>> If would be real convenient to have a known string to >>> search for that always precedes the rest of the messages >>> in a new boot. >> >> I agree. >> Even a couple of blank lines w

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! [OT]

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 09:17 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: > I would be happy to be shown incorrect. Your understanding is, on the whole, correct. However, you can always use akmod-nvidia instead. If there's not a kmod for the current kernel, akmod builds it on the fly at boot. It's not a panacea by any mean

non-fedora:octave-question(sorry)

2011-05-30 Thread Nermin Celik
hi, firstly apologies to all members for asking a non-fedora question here... i'm a newbie to octave and would like to plot a bar/frequency graph. however experiencing some problems due to my data. x-values y-values --- -- [1-9] 9 [10-19]

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! [OT]

2011-05-30 Thread Mark Eggers
On Mon, 30 May 2011 19:56:02 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 07:49 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: >> If not, then I will have to wait until NVidia fixes their drivers >> (again). > > Or, you can uninstall the binary blob, and follow the instructions here > to install akmond-nvidia and be done with

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 19:07 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 05:42 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > Tom Horsley wrote: > > > >> If would be real convenient to have a known string to > >> search for that always precedes the rest of the messages > >> in a new boot. > > > > I agree. > > Even a coup

Re: Unable to disable sshd by "setup"?

2011-05-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/31/2011 08:09 AM, H Xu wrote: > On 05/31/2011 10:21 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> chkconfig --list sshd > > I misunderstood your meaning, sorry. > > The output is: > 0:off1:off2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off > > "chkconfig sshd off" works. That seems weird as ntsysv is just a fr

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-30 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 18:36 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > Just for curiosity, why has no one ever arranged to > log something like "Hey! I'm booting the system again!" > as the very first line in that goes to /var/log/messages > when the system is booting? I used to do something like that back when

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 07:49 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: > If not, then I will have to wait until NVidia fixes their drivers > (again). Or, you can uninstall the binary blob, and follow the instructions here to install akmond-nvidia and be done with it once and for all: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthrea

Re: Unable to disable sshd by "setup"?

2011-05-30 Thread Misha Shnurapet
31.05.2011, 10:12, "H Xu" : > Hello, > > I've used the "setup" program to uncheck "sshd", however, sshd still > starts up after I reboot. This doesn't happen on FC14. Then I tried to > use setup to disable other daemons, it seems that they all disobeyed. > Anyone knows what's going on here? Thanks.

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Mark Eggers
On Tue, 31 May 2011 01:18:47 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Montag, den 30.05.2011, 09:11 +0100 schrieb n2xssvv.g02gfr12930: >> To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN >> TRY!!! > > After reading this thread I still don't know what exactly you did to > upgrade yo

Re: Unable to disable sshd by "setup"?

2011-05-30 Thread H Xu
On 05/31/2011 10:21 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > chkconfig --list sshd I misunderstood your meaning, sorry. The output is: 0:off 1:off 2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off "chkconfig sshd off" works. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription o

Re: Unable to disable sshd by "setup"?

2011-05-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/31/2011 07:42 AM, H Xu wrote: > On 05/31/2011 09:22 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 05/31/2011 06:42 AM, H Xu wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I've used the "setup" program to uncheck "sshd", however, sshd still >>> starts up after I reboot. This doesn't happen on FC14. Then I tried to >>> use setup

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-30 Thread john wendel
On 05/30/2011 07:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 05:42 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Tom Horsley wrote: >> >>> If would be real convenient to have a known string to >>> search for that always precedes the rest of the messages >>> in a new boot. >> >> I agree. >> Even a couple of blank lines w

Re: "hald" just won't die

2011-05-30 Thread john wendel
On 05/30/2011 05:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/31/2011 08:05 AM, john wendel wrote: >> I just did an F15 LXDE install on an old laptop (incidently, best >> install I've ever done, bravo LXDE quys). >> >> Now I see 9 processes with "hald" in their name, and 3 processes named >> "udevd" running. I

Re: Unable to disable sshd by "setup"?

2011-05-30 Thread H Xu
On 05/31/2011 09:22 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/31/2011 06:42 AM, H Xu wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I've used the "setup" program to uncheck "sshd", however, sshd still >> starts up after I reboot. This doesn't happen on FC14. Then I tried to >> use setup to disable other daemons, it seems that the

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 06:56 PM, Alex wrote: > So to confirm, what is the preferred method to upgrade? I usually update > daily, so in F14 most likely I'd have the latest and greatest updates when I > decided to move to F15. Same here. I've been using preupgrade since (I think) F11 with good results. -

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 05:42 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Tom Horsley wrote: > >> If would be real convenient to have a known string to >> search for that always precedes the rest of the messages >> in a new boot. > > I agree. > Even a couple of blank lines would help. > > Indeed. Am I the only one on the

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Alex
So to confirm, what is the preferred method to upgrade? I usually update daily, so in F14 most likely I'd have the latest and greatest updates when I decided to move to F15. Do I just need to bite the bullet and do a clean install? On a clean install is it safe to keep your /home partition and

Re: btrfs advice?

2011-05-30 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 05/30/2011 01:13 AM, Michael Wiktowy wrote: > > > 2) I see (using 'mount') that the root is btrfs along with some (what > appear to be) subvolumes for /tmp, /var/tmp and /home yet 'btrfs > device scan' shows no information. Does 'btrfs device scan' only scan > unmounted devices or is this a bug

Amazing New Tetris(R) Game For Fedora!

2011-05-30 Thread Jesse Palser
Hi, My team and I are working on an open-source cross-platform multi-player Tetris(R) game called: "TetriCrisis 3 100% C.P.U."... Was hoping some people can help test it on their Fedora systems? Game requires the following: - SDL 1.2 - SDL_Image - SDL_Mixer - SDL_TTF - G++ - OpenGL(R) w/ hardwar

Re: Unable to disable sshd by "setup"?

2011-05-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/31/2011 06:57 AM, suvayu ali wrote: > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 05/31/2011 06:42 AM, H Xu wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I've used the "setup" program to uncheck "sshd", however, sshd still >>> starts up after I reboot. This doesn't happen on FC14. Then I tried

Re: Unable to disable sshd by "setup"?

2011-05-30 Thread suvayu ali
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/31/2011 06:42 AM, H Xu wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I've used the "setup" program to uncheck "sshd", however, sshd still >> starts up after I reboot. This doesn't happen on FC14. Then I tried to >> use setup to disable other daemons, it seem

Re: Unable to disable sshd by "setup"?

2011-05-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/31/2011 06:42 AM, H Xu wrote: > Hello, > > I've used the "setup" program to uncheck "sshd", however, sshd still > starts up after I reboot. This doesn't happen on FC14. Then I tried to > use setup to disable other daemons, it seems that they all disobeyed. > Anyone knows what's going on he

Unable to disable sshd by "setup"?

2011-05-30 Thread H Xu
Hello, I've used the "setup" program to uncheck "sshd", however, sshd still starts up after I reboot. This doesn't happen on FC14. Then I tried to use setup to disable other daemons, it seems that they all disobeyed. Anyone knows what's going on here? Thanks. Regards, H Xu 05/31/2011 -- users

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/30/2011 08:40 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Michael Schwendt wrote: > >> Updating the F14 prior to upgrading it to F15 may be a mistake >> already, given that F14 updates may be newer than F15 release. Do you >> enable the "updates" network repo during F15 upgrade? > > Is that true? > I thoug

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-30 Thread Timothy Murphy
Tom Horsley wrote: > If would be real convenient to have a known string to > search for that always precedes the rest of the messages > in a new boot. I agree. Even a couple of blank lines would help. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-m

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Timothy Murphy
Michael Schwendt wrote: > Updating the F14 prior to upgrading it to F15 may be a mistake > already, given that F14 updates may be newer than F15 release. Do you > enable the "updates" network repo during F15 upgrade? Is that true? I thought I'd read somewhere that one should update the old system

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15

2011-05-30 Thread Timothy Murphy
n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > The yum upgrade from the minimal Fedora 14 KDE ran smoothly, (no > conflicts or removals). Unfortunately on rebooting I cannot boot at all, > (inittab 3 or 5), and when I just tried the Fedora 14 rescue DVD, that > failed as well!! I'm probably being a bit slow, but

Re: "hald" just won't die

2011-05-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/31/2011 08:05 AM, john wendel wrote: > I just did an F15 LXDE install on an old laptop (incidently, best > install I've ever done, bravo LXDE quys). > > Now I see 9 processes with "hald" in their name, and 3 processes named > "udevd" running. I thought hal was supposed to be gone. I also see

"hald" just won't die

2011-05-30 Thread john wendel
I just did an F15 LXDE install on an old laptop (incidently, best install I've ever done, bravo LXDE quys). Now I see 9 processes with "hald" in their name, and 3 processes named "udevd" running. I thought hal was supposed to be gone. I also see udisk-daemon and hald-addon-storage both polling

Re: IT'S OVER, FORGET I EVER POSTED ABOUT IT

2011-05-30 Thread Alan Cox
> Oh, what you wanted was sympathy? Why didn't you say so? And here we > were all thinking you wanted help. Silly us! I hope when you need help and ask in the wrong way you are treated the same way you treat others. At that point maybe you'll learn some useful lessons. Alan -- users mailing

Re: IT'S OVER, FORGET I EVER POSTED ABOUT IT

2011-05-30 Thread john wendel
On 05/30/2011 04:34 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > > The original post was obviously a mistake and I'm an hysterical, fud > spreading troll who deserves no sympathy. Sorry for wasting all of your > time. > > Regards > > cpp4ever Actually, you seems to have provided entertainment for lots of user

Re: IT'S OVER, FORGET I EVER POSTED ABOUT IT

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 04:34 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > The original post was obviously a mistake and I'm an hysterical, fud > spreading troll who deserves no sympathy. Sorry for wasting all of your > time. Oh, what you wanted was sympathy? Why didn't you say so? And here we were all thinking you

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! WHY BOTHER?

2011-05-30 Thread john wendel
On 05/30/2011 04:05 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > On 30/05/11 09:11, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> >> To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN >> TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting >> in being unable to boot up any kernel version a

IT'S OVER, FORGET I EVER POSTED ABOUT IT

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
The original post was obviously a mistake and I'm an hysterical, fud spreading troll who deserves no sympathy. Sorry for wasting all of your time. Regards cpp4ever -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-30 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 30 May 2011 16:05:07 -0700 Peter Gordon wrote: > imklog 5.7.9, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Yea, the same thing starts mine, but I just thought it would be nice to have something more obvious (and perhaps less likely to change someday :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproj

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 30.05.2011, 09:11 +0100 schrieb n2xssvv.g02gfr12930: > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! After reading this thread I still don't know what exactly you did to upgrade your system. Can you please give us more details ? What commands did you r

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! WHY BOTHER?

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 04:05 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > Certainly, I'll be more reluctant > to post problems here if that's the type of response I can expect. And besides, the grapes are probably sour anyway. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription o

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! WHY BOTHER?

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 09:11, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting > in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, using inittab mode > 1,3, or 5. In view of this i

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-30 Thread Peter Gordon
On 05/30/2011 03:36 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > If would be real convenient to have a known string to > search for that always precedes the rest of the messages > in a new boot. You could try grep'ing for the Linux version string, always one of the first several lines printed during kernel startup. T

/var/log/messages question

2011-05-30 Thread Tom Horsley
Just for curiosity, why has no one ever arranged to log something like "Hey! I'm booting the system again!" as the very first line in that goes to /var/log/messages when the system is booting? If would be real convenient to have a known string to search for that always precedes the rest of the mes

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Alan Cox
> People, who later seemingly know what they are doing, should know better > and be responsible for their reporting. In this case, the OP later > seems to know what he is doing, making the first FUD based posting even > more believable by individuals susceptible to FUD. > > FUD is FUD no matte

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/31/2011 03:09 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > No, upgrading F15 is a pain. Beware, expect danger! That statement is not FUD. That statement is measured and reasonable. That statement would normally be followed by "Make backups before proceeding with any upgrade". -- users mailing

Re: No ethernet connection Solved -

2011-05-30 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 30/05/11 08:22, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 30/05/11 13:19, Rick Sewill wrote: > After re-installing F-15 and losing all my earlier configuration work I still had no ethernet connection! The reason was that, for reasons I don't recall, I had enabled the main board

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 30 May 2011 22:30, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > On 30/05/11 20:46, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 05/30/2011 12:28 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >>> Easy for you to say when you don't have the problem, and I wish you >>> never have a similar problem. Then I'd be interested to see your >>> response. In

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/31/2011 03:03 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I think you are doing the same thing that you are accusing the other > person of doing IMO. You can just point out what is wrong. > The OP specifically told people "DON'T EVEN TRY!!!" to upgrade from F14 to F15. No details, no suggestion as to wha

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/31/2011 03:09 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > I wish I could say the same, it's failed twice for me now, even from a > minimal Fedora 14 KDE reinstall/update. Might be FUD in your world,but I > hope for your sake you never come across a similar problem. Rest assured > if our places are ever

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 02:30 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > Well, I could say the same, but this problem is an order of magnitude > more complicated than anything I have experienced using Fedora in 8+ > years, is that chicken little?. Yes, it is. Starting out with the assumption that F15 is at fault --

Gnome 3 Nautilus and OEFIIOW (Open Each Folder in Its Own Window...)

2011-05-30 Thread Fernando Cassia
OK, updated to F15, no major complains so far, except for the extremelly round window corner borders, and excessive Mac-ism of it all (and super large app title bar, what's with that?). Getting acquainted with Gnome 3... It's not very annoying... just will take a while to get used to it, I think.

Re: Oh no! Something has gone wrong. (GNOME 3 login issue)

2011-05-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2011 02:01 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > I tried also loading nvidia proprietary module but it looks it doesn't > support latest X in Fedora 15. > > I'm willing to work with devels to track down bugs and make Fedora 15 > and GNOME Shell better but need some guidance Best thing fo

Re: f15+Gnome3: how to put on desktop an applet for see cpu and network usage

2011-05-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2011 06:13 PM, Dario Lesca wrote: > Hi, on my f14 I had place on my panel the system monitor, witch show me > the CPU and network usage. > > How to do that into F15+Gnome3? > > Many thanks. > You can use a extension http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/system-monitor-extension-puts-ram-swap.ht

Re: How does the user theme extension work?

2011-05-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2011 09:10 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I installed gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme. Based on my Googling, > this should get me a "Themes" tab under Activities. But there's > nothing there. No change after a reboot. Somebody give me a clue on > how to use it. User theme extension doesn'

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 20:46, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 12:28 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> Easy for you to say when you don't have the problem, and I wish you >> never have a similar problem. Then I'd be interested to see your >> response. In the meant time please see my other posts. > > I've had

Re: NFS mounts at boot broken on F15?

2011-05-30 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 13:21 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On 28/05/11 09:52, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 05/28/2011 06:26 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: > >> I solaved the problem by adding a comment=systemd.automount > >> for the NFS mounts in fstab. See man systmd.automount > >> Louis > > > > That

Re: Today's GNOME3 funny

2011-05-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 00:12, Bill Davidsen wrote: > I was looking at gnome3.org today, and their FAQ says that "The traditional > GNOME 2 desktop will not disappear overnight, however: releases of GNOME 2 > will > continue to be supported by distributions for years to come." so clearly they > d

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread suvayu ali
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 30 May 2011 19:20:55 +0100 > "n2xssvv.g02gfr12930" wrote: > >> Failed completely means I cannot even boot to a console, (inittab 3). > > ok. What are the messages on the screen when this fails? > Screenshot? Maybe the OP is missing t

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15

2011-05-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 30 May 2011 20:16:09 +0100, NG wrote: > How to collect technical information when Fedora 15 fails to boot? To check whether your theory of SELinux problems could be true, try booting with the enforcing=0 kernel arg. Descriptions such as "cannot boot at all" are useless, because certain

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 01:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > multi-user.target and graphical.target are symlinked to runlevel3.target > and runlevel5.target Thank you. Change for the sake of clarity is a Good Thing. Change for its own sake often isn't. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: FC15 as NFS server to another FC15 instance - rpc.svcgssd "not configured"? [Solved]

2011-05-30 Thread Gregory Woodbury
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > I have FC15 installed on two machines: > 1) an old dell i686 machine > 2) a newer x86_64 machine as server > > when the server machine is running FC14, NFS mounts from the i686 machine > work fine. > Under FC15 on the server machine, t

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 30 May 2011 19:20:55 +0100, NG wrote: > Failed completely means I cannot even boot to a console, (inittab 3). F15 doesn't use inittab anymore, so what do you mean? In case you refer to the kernel boot args, you would need to read up on systemd run-level args. -- users mailing list users@

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:44:01 +0100, NG wrote: > OK, folks I have just reinstalled Fedora 14, (KDE minimal and working), > updated, (working) , then upgraded to Fedora 15 and it still fails > completely. Updating the F14 prior to upgrading it to F15 may be a mistake already, given that F14 updates

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/31/2011 01:34 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > I presume the names were changed to make it easier to know what they > mean? If so, it's a good idea, especially if there's a comment > somewhere that tells you how they correspond so that all of us oldpharts > can adjust. multi-user.target and graphic

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/05/11 21:04, Joe Zeff wrote: > > I presume the names were changed to make it easier to know what they > mean? If so, it's a good idea, especially if there's a comment > somewhere that tells you how they correspond so that all of us oldpharts > can adjust. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysV

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 12:50 PM, Garry T. Williams wrote: > 3. The first boot ended at multiuser.target instead of > graphical.target. (That's init level 3 instead of level 5 in > oldspeak.) I have never touched the inittab on either machine. They > were both set to boot into the graphical login. I pre

Re: Today's GNOME3 funny

2011-05-30 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 15:14 -0400, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > The way to get other VT's in Virtual Box is "right control"+"F" Thanks for the tip, works like a champ! --Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedorapr

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Monday, May 30, 2011 04:11:26 n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally > resulting in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, > using inittab mode 1,3, or 5. In

Re: KVM x VirtualBox

2011-05-30 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 16:40, Johan Scheepers wrote: > Kindly point me in the right direction to enable oracle repos > OR > kindly provide info howto do it please. > Thanks > Johan Hi Johan, It´s pointed out here... for Debian, Ubuntu, and RPM based distros like Fedora/OpenSUSE, etc http://www

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 12:28 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > Easy for you to say when you don't have the problem, and I wish you > never have a similar problem. Then I'd be interested to see your > response. In the meant time please see my other posts. I've had problems with upgrades, installations and up

Re: KVM x VirtualBox

2011-05-30 Thread Johan Scheepers
On 30/05/2011 20:46, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 15:41, wrote: >> I was hoping someone with actual experience running a recent VirtualBox on >> Fedora would step in and either tell "it's ok to use the Oracle repos" or >> "using the Oracle repos causes X, you have to do Y do

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 20:16, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 11:49 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> If you consider my response as >> hysteria, so be it. > > Coming out of nowhere and saying that because the upgrade didn't work > for you on one machine it wouldn't work for anybody was, at the least, a >

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 19:52, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > On 05/30/2011 01:20 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> >> Failed completely means I cannot even boot to a console, (inittab 3). >> Currently I'm trying to boot the last Fedora 14 kernel and it's having >> to do some SELinux filesystem update. So the ne

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 11:49 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > If you consider my response as > hysteria, so be it. Coming out of nowhere and saying that because the upgrade didn't work for you on one machine it wouldn't work for anybody was, at the least, a tad over-the-top, don't you think? -- users ma

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 20:08, Patrick Lists wrote: > On 05/30/2011 08:35 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> As I've said elsewhere I will[snip] >> >> Based on my experience,[snip] > > Your continued repeating of your anti-F15 "recommendations" and the lack > of actual technical information and/or screenshots

Re: Today's GNOME3 funny

2011-05-30 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
On 05/30/2011 01:33 PM, Greg Woods wrote: > running with F14 as the host OS, and I can repeat this phenomenon with > the System Info. Very weird. CTRL-Alt-Backspace (sends you back to the > login screen) also works for recovery. I have yet to figure out how to > do a CTRL-ALT-F2 in a Vbox guest, as

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15

2011-05-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/05/11 19:35, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > > Based on my experience, even with a minimal Fedora 14 installation, I > cannot recommend trying to upgrade Fedora 14 -> 15 via yum. > Know that there will be people here to give a hand when your ready. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded F

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 19:50, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/30/2011 04:11 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN >> TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting >> in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, using

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/30/2011 04:11 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN >> TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting >> in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, using inittab mode >> 1,

Re: btrfs advice?

2011-05-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/30/2011 10:43 AM, Michael Wiktowy wrote: > I made the leap to a btrfs root partition for my netbook with a fresh > install of F15. > > Everything seems to work fine and I have done some fair amount of > Googling for information and come across > https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Getting

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15

2011-05-30 Thread Patrick Lists
On 05/30/2011 08:35 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > As I've said elsewhere I will[snip] > > Based on my experience,[snip] Your continued repeating of your anti-F15 "recommendations" and the lack of actual technical information and/or screenshots other than it did not work makes you look like a

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/31/2011 12:28 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/31/2011 02:53 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Come on. Let's assume good will. His warning might not be helpful with >> more details but he is certainly just trying to warn users. > Over reaction to a personal experience is *never* a good thing not

Re: Today's GNOME3 funny

2011-05-30 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 06:54, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > and the VBox-provided drivers for > the WinXP client need to be installed when the client is in safe-mode, if they > are to work. Or something like that, I don't remember exactly. I don´t remember having to to boot into safe mode. The only t

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 19:37, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 30/05/11 19:35, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > > >> Based on my experience, even with a minimal Fedora 14 installation, I >> cannot recommend trying to upgrade Fedora 14 -> 15 via yum. >> > > what size boot partition do you have on the laptop? > The s

Re: btrfs advice?

2011-05-30 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Monday, May 30, 2011 01:13:10 Michael Wiktowy wrote: > I made the leap to a btrfs root partition for my netbook with a fresh > install of F15. > > 1) Is there any kind of integration of btrfs with the included apps > (For example: automatic snapshots before yum updates allowing easy > rollbacks

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/31/2011 02:53 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Come on. Let's assume good will. His warning might not be helpful with > more details but he is certainly just trying to warn users. Over reaction to a personal experience is *never* a good thing not matter how well intended. FUD is FUD. -- user

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/31/2011 12:20 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/30/2011 04:11 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN >> TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting >> in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all,

Re: F15: How to set up an xDSL connection?

2011-05-30 Thread sguazt
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Vikram Goyal wrote: > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 02:15:02PM +0200, sguazt wrote: >> >> So, what is the right tool to use? >> OK! I found it. You have to go to the "Applications" menu and select the "Other" submenu. There, you can find the "Network Connections" applic

Re: Today's GNOME3 funny

2011-05-30 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 04:20, Misha Shnurapet wrote: > VMs don't have a working 3D support. I don't know why you keep trying. Virtualbox does. At least when using Windows as the host. http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/475 FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
On 05/30/2011 01:20 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > > Failed completely means I cannot even boot to a console, (inittab 3). > Currently I'm trying to boot the last Fedora 14 kernel and it's having > to do some SELinux filesystem update. So the next thing to try is to > install from a Fedora 15 in

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/30/2011 04:11 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting > in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, using inittab mode > 1,3, or 5. In view of this

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 19:31, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 10:44 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> Based on this experience I'm loathe to recommend Fedora 15, >> and I suspect that even a Fedora 15 DVD install will give the same >> result. > > Going from a specific example to a general rule is called "ind

Re: KVM x VirtualBox

2011-05-30 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 15:41, wrote: > I was hoping someone with actual experience running a recent VirtualBox on > Fedora would step in and either tell "it's ok to use the Oracle repos" or > "using the Oracle repos causes X, you have to do Y do workaround or use the > repos from Y as they al

Re: KVM x VirtualBox

2011-05-30 Thread Brian Mury
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 11:41, wrote: > Hi, > > I was hoping someone with actual experience running a recent VirtualBox on > Fedora would step in and either tell "it's ok to use the Oracle repos" or > "using the Oracle repos causes X, you have to do Y do workaround or use the > repos from Y as

Re: KVM x VirtualBox

2011-05-30 Thread fernando
Hi, I was hoping someone with actual experience running a recent VirtualBox on Fedora would step in and either tell "it's ok to use the Oracle repos" or "using the Oracle repos causes X, you have to do Y do workaround or use the repos from Y as they already solve X". []s, Fernando Lozano >--

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