Re: kernel panic on boot with fedora 15

2011-05-25 Thread Scott van Looy
Today Harald Hoyer did spake thusly: > Am 26.05.2011 08:26, schrieb Scott van Looy: >> Aha! >> >> For some reason the initramfs is missing from the Fedora 15 kernel on my >> system. Any idea how to get it back? :) > > # dracut /boot/initramfs-.img Thanks for this so far. Running the command dra

Re: kernel panic on boot with fedora 15

2011-05-25 Thread Harald Hoyer
Am 26.05.2011 08:26, schrieb Scott van Looy: > Aha! > > For some reason the initramfs is missing from the Fedora 15 kernel on my > system. Any idea how to get it back? :) # dracut /boot/initramfs-.img -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription optio

Emacs and gnome-shell

2011-05-25 Thread Braden McDaniel
Currently the "New Window" option in gnome-shell starts another application instance of emacs; I'd prefer it simply created a new frame (in Emacs parlance). Presumably this requires some awareness that emacs does not currently possess. But has anyone had success setting up emacsclient to work thi

Re: kernel panic on boot with fedora 15

2011-05-25 Thread Scott van Looy
Aha! For some reason the initramfs is missing from the Fedora 15 kernel on my system. Any idea how to get it back? :) On May 25 Sam Varshavchik did spake thusly: > Scott van Looy writes: > >> I've upgraded my server, now when I boot it gets as far as this: >> md: Waiting for all devices to be a

F15 and rpmfusion repos

2011-05-25 Thread Joachim Backes
Hi all, F15 is released since monday, but only the rpmfusion rawhide repos are released. Somebody has an explanation for that? Kind regards Joachim Backes http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorapro

Re: F14->F15 preupgrade fails

2011-05-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/25/2011 10:03 PM, Kam Leo wrote: > You can indeed reduce memory once the system has been installed; but, > you first need to be able to install. How do you install Fedora 15 if > your system has less than 768MB of RAM? If you have that little RAM, you've got to have swap, and once it's init

F14 -> F15 upgrade, ypbind doesn't start

2011-05-25 Thread Mogens Kjaer
I have a machine set up to do login authentication via NIS. After I've upgraded to F15, ypbind no longer starts automatically at boot time, so I can't log in. # chkconfig|fgrep ypbind ypbind 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on4:on5:on6:off I can start ypbind manually: # ypwhich yp

Re: Speakers don't Mute when headphones are plugged in (Speakers & Headphones at the same time) :S

2011-05-25 Thread JD
On 05/25/11 22:49, Manuel Escudero wrote: > Since I bought my computer and I installed Linux on it, I had this > problem... > Back in the day I never Found a REAL Solution and finally my solution > (in Fedora) > was installing "pavucontrol" to choose the Devices when I needed to > Switch. > > Vi

Speakers don't Mute when headphones are plugged in (Speakers & Headphones at the same time) :S

2011-05-25 Thread Manuel Escudero
Since I bought my computer and I installed Linux on it, I had this problem... Back in the day I never Found a REAL Solution and finally my solution (in Fedora) was installing "pavucontrol" to choose the Devices when I needed to Switch. Via the Pulse Audio Volume Control I was able to Mute speakers

Re: F14->F15 preupgrade fails

2011-05-25 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 10:32 +0930, Tim wrote: >> On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 17:22 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> > Big flamewar in Bugzilla: minimum install requirements for F15 >> > are, depending on who claims it, either 768mb or 1gb of

Re: Why on the Earth GNOME Shell hiding Shutdown & Restart options

2011-05-25 Thread Misha Shnurapet
Hi. I wonder why they didn't use hibernation instead of suspension. That would have caused less pain for the adherents of power saving. -- Best regards, Misha Shnurapet, Fedora Project Contributor https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Shnurapet shnurapet AT fedoraproject.org, GPG: 00217306 -- users m

rpcgssd not starting on fedora 15

2011-05-25 Thread fernando
Hi there, I need acess to NFS shares secured by NFS. After installing Fedora 15 on my notebook I replicated all configs I used on other machine with Fedora 14, but rpcgssd doesn't start and so I cannot mount the NFS share. I changed /etc/sysconfig/nfs so: # Set to turn on Secure NFS mounts. SECU

Re: Mounting cifs

2011-05-25 Thread JD
On 05/25/11 21:09, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/25/2011 08:37 PM, JD wrote: >> I wish I could do that - but the owner is not I :) > Understood. Please note that I didn't suggest drilling any holes or > anything like that. My sister and I share a house; I'd like to do some > drilling to shorten cable-r

Re: Why on the Earth GNOME Shell hiding Shutdown & Restart options

2011-05-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/25/2011 10:51 PM, Juan R. de Silva wrote: > On Thu, 26 May 2011 02:26:18 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > >> Juan R. de Silva gmail.com> writes: >> >>> Could anybody explain it, why GNOME folks decided to hide the Shutdown >>> and especially Restart buttons/options from a user so well? Is it

Re: Mounting cifs

2011-05-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/25/2011 08:37 PM, JD wrote: > I wish I could do that - but the owner is not I :) Understood. Please note that I didn't suggest drilling any holes or anything like that. My sister and I share a house; I'd like to do some drilling to shorten cable-runs but the house is in her name and she

Desktopswitcher and OpenOffice (F15)

2011-05-25 Thread Roelof 'Ben' Kusters
I just installed F15, and am exited. Some may remember some of my complaints regarding looks and wifi-workability for F14; all my wishes seem to have come true. Well done developers; I'm a happy bunny. Learning quickly though. Two things though. First: Is there a way to configure the deskto

Re: Mounting cifs

2011-05-25 Thread JD
On 05/25/11 20:22, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/25/2011 08:11 PM, JD wrote: >> If our house were wired for cat5 or cat6 in every room, >> I would agree. Since that is not the case, 2 machines have >> to be wireless, except for win7, which is a desktop and on >> that desk is the router. > It's not exact

Re: Mounting cifs

2011-05-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/25/2011 08:11 PM, JD wrote: > If our house were wired for cat5 or cat6 in every room, > I would agree. Since that is not the case, 2 machines have > to be wireless, except for win7, which is a desktop and on > that desk is the router. It's not exactly hard to run the cable along the walls,

Re: F14->F15 preupgrade fails

2011-05-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 10:32 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 17:22 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Big flamewar in Bugzilla: minimum install requirements for F15 > > are, depending on who claims it, either 768mb or 1gb of ram. > > Geez, either is too much. How inefficient is the prog

Re: Why on the Earth GNOME Shell hiding Shutdown & Restart options

2011-05-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/25/2011 07:17 PM, Juan R. de Silva wrote: > Or GNOME folks assume people > do not shutdown/restart their computers anymore? Many of us who use Linux on their desktops leave them running 24/7, only rebooting for a kernel update. If that's what the Gnome devs are doing (as I do) they don't

Re: Mounting cifs

2011-05-25 Thread JD
On 05/25/11 18:46, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 13:50 -0700, JD wrote: >> My only conclusion is that someone at at&t or >> a nearby is/are hacking our router, or the router's >> firmware is buggy. >> But I have never seen a bug like this that waits >> 20 to 30 minutes before striking :) > Or

Re: What on earth is mounted?

2011-05-25 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 05/25/2011 04:27 PM, Phil Meyer wrote: > On 05/25/2011 12:17 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> > > Here is the output of mount: > > > Mount now gives you /proc/mounts. Look at findmnt --help for the new way to review mounted filesystems, etc. I use: findmnt -m -u -o SOURCE,TARGET,FSTYPE -t ext2,e

Re: Why on the Earth GNOME Shell hiding Shutdown & Restart options

2011-05-25 Thread Juan R. de Silva
On Thu, 26 May 2011 02:26:18 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > Juan R. de Silva gmail.com> writes: > >> Could anybody explain it, why GNOME folks decided to hide the Shutdown >> and especially Restart buttons/options from a user so well? Is it >> especially dangerous to use them nowadays? Or GNOME

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 23:04, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > There is a difference between how live images work and the non-live > installation in Fedora.  In the case of live images,  you are > essentially copying a full image to the disk and writing a boot loader. > It is extremely fast.  Maybe takes

Re: Why on the Earth GNOME Shell hiding Shutdown & Restart options

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 07:47 AM, Juan R. de Silva wrote: > Could anybody explain it, why GNOME folks decided to hide the Shutdown > and especially Restart buttons/options from a user so well? Is it > especially dangerous to use them nowadays? Or GNOME folks assume people > do not shutdown/restart their c

Why on the Earth GNOME Shell hiding Shutdown & Restart options

2011-05-25 Thread Andre Robatino
Juan R. de Silva gmail.com> writes: > Could anybody explain it, why GNOME folks decided to hide the Shutdown > and especially Restart buttons/options from a user so well? Is it > especially dangerous to use them nowadays? Or GNOME folks assume people > do not shutdown/restart their computers a

Why on the Earth GNOME Shell hiding Shutdown & Restart options

2011-05-25 Thread Juan R. de Silva
Could anybody explain it, why GNOME folks decided to hide the Shutdown and especially Restart buttons/options from a user so well? Is it especially dangerous to use them nowadays? Or GNOME folks assume people do not shutdown/restart their computers anymore? This "feature" could drive crazy any

Re: NetworkManager in fedora 15 various questions/problems

2011-05-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/25/2011 06:53 PM, Tim wrote: > I tell people to name theirs "george" or "fred" or something similarly > easily identifiable, but not interesting to teenage hackers next door. > It makes for amusing phone calls for help, "I need you to have a look at > George, he's forgotten his password, agai

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 07:40 AM, Kam Leo wrote: > I create and run multiple virtual Fedora installs which are clones of > each other. I do not feel it is proper to let Smolt report each > instantiation because the hardware is virtual and identical. Does > Fedora Project really need those virtual stats? C

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/25/2011 06:47 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > Why make the installer fiddle with dozens of RPMs then (which > takes a lot of time) instead of copying a partition image of this > "minium bootable system" from DVD to HD??. Having a partition image on the DVD would make the .iso for it considerab

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/26/2011 06:49 AM, Tim wrote: >> On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 05:51 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> I would say, the average Fedora user has anywhere between 1 GB >>> and 4 GB of RAM and with every release,  the amount of people using >>> sys

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 07:30 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > So I repeat my question: After partitioning is done, wouldn´t it be > easier to copy a "base bootable image" to a volume?. Wasn´t that the > big change in Windows installer from XP to 7?, the fact that the > installer is much faster because it just

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 22:51, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I think you are grossly underestimating the complexity of a modern Linux > distribution installer.   ISCSI,  LUN storage discovery,  RAID,  LVM, > kickstart,  network handling,  kdump,   mirror lists,  storage > handling,  swap,  partitioning,

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 07:17 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > What kind of rocket science is needed by the average linux installer, > besides extracting RPMs or .tar.gz files and copying files to the HD? > > Other than selecting different kernels based on architecture (say, > i386, i686, etc) after hardware sni

Re: NetworkManager in fedora 15 various questions/problems

2011-05-25 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 09:57 +0100, Tim Smith wrote: > Maybe someone could try convincing linksys to randomise their default > SSID, or include the BSSID in it, but I don't hold out much hope for > that. It's always annoyed me. An identical SSID constitutes a promise > that this is the same network

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 21:21, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > No problem.   Not sure what you were laughing about but if you are > running Fedora with 256 MB RAM,  you are in a minority of Fedora > users.   I would say, the average Fedora user has anywhere between 1 GB > and 4 GB of RAM and with every re

Re: Mounting cifs

2011-05-25 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 13:50 -0700, JD wrote: > My only conclusion is that someone at at&t or > a nearby is/are hacking our router, or the router's > firmware is buggy. > But I have never seen a bug like this that waits > 20 to 30 minutes before striking :) Or it's failing... Does it, or its powe

Re: local IMAP server

2011-05-25 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 22:42 +0200, Lewis NH2 wrote: > I plan to go for fetchmail to retrieve the email from the ISP and > dovecot to provide the local IMAP server. Now I am a bit unsure about > the setup. As far as I can see, it seems that most solutions found on > the net involves a 3rd agent, for

Re: systemd service config where?

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 06:45 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > I sometimes need to fiddle systems that are not running, > either via poking around in an alternate boot partition > or using guestfish in a virtual image. > > So, is the systemd information about which services are > enabled or disabled in which targets

Re: booting F14 on 2nd drive on a Windows 7 PC

2011-05-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 26 May 2011 10:25:24 +0930 Tim wrote: > I probably could do that on Linux, too. But I don't want to transcode > the movie, which seems to be how every Linux solution I've seen works. Ah, its simple on linux - you just need to fully understand and memorize all the interacting meanings of

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 06:46 AM, Tim wrote: > I don't really agree. > > It will be known that at least some minimum is required (to do a minimal > install), probably a higher minimum is required (to do one of the > prepared list of packages; If you have patches, Anaconda has a development mailing list, I

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 06:49 AM, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 05:51 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> I would say, the average Fedora user has anywhere between 1 GB >> and 4 GB of RAM and with every release, the amount of people using >> systems with even more RAM keep growing. > Must be only the hard

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 05:51 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I would say, the average Fedora user has anywhere between 1 GB > and 4 GB of RAM and with every release, the amount of people using > systems with even more RAM keep growing. Must be only the hard core users. Because it's still common to

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Tim
Kevin J. Cummings: >> Preupgrade should know about the limitation and refuse to run the >> upgrade if insufficient ram exists in the system instead of waiting >> for the reboot where it just hangs with no explanation Rahul Sundaram: > "Should know" is true in the ideal sense. However it is fa

systemd service config where?

2011-05-25 Thread Tom Horsley
I sometimes need to fiddle systems that are not running, either via poking around in an alternate boot partition or using guestfish in a virtual image. So, is the systemd information about which services are enabled or disabled in which targets stored somewhere that it is possible for a human sysa

Re: F14->F15 preupgrade fails

2011-05-25 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 17:22 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Big flamewar in Bugzilla: minimum install requirements for F15 > are, depending on who claims it, either 768mb or 1gb of ram. Geez, either is too much. How inefficient is the programming to require that much? -- [tim@localhost ~]$ un

Re: Curious about fedora laptop mailing list

2011-05-25 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 14:13 -0400, Camilo Mesias wrote: > There are still issues, often minor things like suspend / resume not > working, wireless being less than 100% perfect, power management being > less than perfect... etc. Depending on your laptop... My ASUS laptop seems to work properly, al

Re: kernel panic on boot with fedora 15

2011-05-25 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Scott van Looy writes: I've upgraded my server, now when I boot it gets as far as this: md: Waiting for all devices to be available before auto detect md: If you don't use raid, use raid-noautodetect md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: Scanned 0 and added 0 devices. Then it freezes and kernel pa

Re: booting F14 on 2nd drive on a Windows 7 PC

2011-05-25 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 09:29 -0600, FHDATA wrote: > After careful assessment, the dual/multi boot (unless i absolutely > need it) is not worth the hassle. I try full hrdw install. I came to that conclusion years ago, and all but one computer (here) is Linux only. The sole use of Windows on one com

Re: Fedora-15 netinstall

2011-05-25 Thread Timothy Murphy
Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/25/2011 04:39 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> 2) I would have liked to choose KDE rather than Gnome, >> but as far as I can see I was never asked which I would like? > > Normally, there's an option to customize your installation. Was it > skipped? Maybe I missed it. I did c

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 05:00 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > Rahul, > > First of all I want to thank the whole team for their efforts. I surely > appreciate not only the quality of work, but also the quality of the > product. However, I had to laugh a little when I read your note. I > have some units that

Re: Set inittab to 3 -

2011-05-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 05:41 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 25/05/11 05:33, Jan Willies wrote: > > 2011/5/25 Bob Goodwin > > > >New install F-15: When I attempted to change the inittab > > setting > >from 5 to 3 as I normally do I was told that was no longer > > the

kernel panic on boot with fedora 15

2011-05-25 Thread Scott van Looy
I've upgraded my server, now when I boot it gets as far as this: md: Waiting for all devices to be available before auto detect md: If you don't use raid, use raid-noautodetect md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: Scanned 0 and added 0 devices. Then it freezes and kernel panics I can boot using the

Re: Fedora-15 netinstall

2011-05-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/25/2011 04:39 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > 2) I would have liked to choose KDE rather than Gnome, > but as far as I can see I was never asked which I would like? Normally, there's an option to customize your installation. Was it skipped? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org T

Fedora-15 netinstall

2011-05-25 Thread Timothy Murphy
I just installed Fedora-15 on my laptop using the netinstall CD. 1) I had the DVD ISO on my server, and I thought I would be asked where I wanted to download from. But as far as I could see, I wasn't asked for an IP address, and F-15 was successfully installed from some unspecified remote site. 2

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
Subject: Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 03:54:17 +0530 On 05/26/2011 03:50 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Unfortunately that's not something likely to be seen by potential > newbies who are thinking of trying out this Fedora thing I don't think we need

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 04:06 AM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > Preupgrade should know about the limitation and refuse to run the > upgrade if insufficient ram exists in the system instead of waiting for > the reboot where it just hangs with no explanation... One more thing. If the installation completes but

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 04:06 AM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > Preupgrade should know about the limitation and refuse to run the > upgrade if insufficient ram exists in the system instead of waiting for > the reboot where it just hangs with no explanation "Should know" is true in the ideal sense. However

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 05/25/2011 06:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/26/2011 03:50 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Unfortunately that's not something likely to be seen by potential >> newbies who are thinking of trying out this Fedora thing > > I don't think we need to worry about newbies using the net > insta

Re: Is there a Maven 3.0.3 package available on FC14?

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/05/2011 12:52 AM, Eric B. wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for a Maven 3.0+ rpm pkg for FC14. I found it precompiled > for FC15, but if I tried to install it, it has a bunch of incompatible > libs with FC14 (understandably). > > Any ideas if/where I might be able to find an rpm version of Mave

Re: What on earth is mounted?

2011-05-25 Thread suvayu ali
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > As already noted, this isn't related to systemd but in case, you are > looking for systemd documentation, here is a comprehensive list of them > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd#systemd_documentation > Thanks Rahul, earlier I think

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 03:53 AM, Kam Leo wrote: >> QA works against a well documented and publicized release criteria that >> gets frequent updates via test list >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Final_Release_Criteria > Strange that being able to install on a system with minimum hardware > requ

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 03:50 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Unfortunately that's not something likely to be seen by potential > newbies who are thinking of trying out this Fedora thing I don't think we need to worry about newbies using the net installation. They aren't likely to start with that. Also t

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/26/2011 02:46 AM, Kam Leo wrote: >> After reading the bug report I can only shake my head. >> >> 1. The problem was known at least a month before the release date. > > Yes.  As noted in the bug report,  a change in the installer and re

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 02:57 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > 3. Release Notes have long lead times and are no longer suitable for > > flagging important last minute changes in system requirements. > > Fedora doesn't rely on only the release notes. There are other places > including the common bug

Re: What on earth is mounted?

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 03:43 AM, suvayu ali wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> Harald Hoyer wrote: >>> Most of them are from the sandbox init script NOT from systemd!! >> Yes, this was not documented in the release notes. It is part of >> SELinux/pam_namespace usag

Re: What on earth is mounted?

2011-05-25 Thread suvayu ali
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Harald Hoyer wrote: >> Most of them are from the sandbox init script NOT from systemd!! > > Yes, this was not documented in the release notes. It is part of > SELinux/pam_namespace usage. Is there any wiki or manpage I can look at

Re: Set inittab to 3

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 03:35 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > That describes what I have been doing. It does not work! Step one fails. > > rm /etc/systemd/system/default.target > > Results in No such file or directory, however I can list it with ls. The method documented in the wiki works fine

Re: Set inittab to 3

2011-05-25 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 25/05/11 16:41, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/26/2011 02:00 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> Once again this is making a major problem of what has always >> been a routine configuration change. > For fresh installations of Fedora 15, /etc/inittab has the > documentation on how to do

Re: Set inittab to 3

2011-05-25 Thread Robert Nichols
On 05/25/2011 03:30 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 25/05/11 10:02, R. G. Newbury wrote: >> After fixing this, you can replace inittab with the script I posted in >> Issue 53, which is archived here: >> >> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/392873/match=re+start+system+without+x

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 03:19 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > I assume that the installer now checks the amount of available memory > and displays a warning screen when you attempt an install on a 512MB > RAM system, no? > > Or was that too considered "too disruptive"?. Disrupting the install > without previous

Re: What on earth is mounted?

2011-05-25 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Harald Hoyer wrote: > Most of them are from the sandbox init script NOT from systemd!! Yes, this was not documented in the release notes. It is part of SELinux/pam_namespace usage. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://adm

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 16:20, Mike Williams wrote: > There are more details here: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=682555 > > Mike I assume that the installer now checks the amount of available memory and displays a warning screen when you attempt an install on a 512MB RAM system, n

Memory requirements of Fedora15 compared to Fedora13.

2011-05-25 Thread Andre Robatino
luis redondo hotmail.com> writes: > I run Fedora13 i386 on my netbook 1GB RAM.I regularly use VirtualBox to run Windows7.Right now,I allocate 512MB for Fedora13 and 512Mb for the VirtualMachine,Windows7 runs relatively slowly but I can do the tasks with it.My problem is: as the memory requirement

Re: Memory requirements of Fedora15 compared to Fedora13.

2011-05-25 Thread Fernando Cassia
I suggest you try the LXDE spin of Fedora 15. That is, if it´s OK for you to use LXDE instead of the more resource-hungry Gnome 3 or KDE 4... http://spins.fedoraproject.org/lxde/ FC On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 18:18, luis redondo wrote: > I run Fedora13 i386 on my netbook 1GB RAM.I regularly use Vi

Re: What on earth is mounted?

2011-05-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 25 May 2011 22:32:41 +0200 Harald Hoyer wrote: > Most of them are from the sandbox init script NOT from systemd!! > > # chkconfig sandbox off > > Then reboot. By golly, you are right! I turned off sandbox and now only one directory is mounted on my root partition (the expected /).

Re: ugly on fonts on upgrade from F13 to F15

2011-05-25 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wed, 25 May 2011 14:21:10 -0600 Phil Meyer wrote: > On 05/25/2011 09:55 AM, suvayu ali wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I "preupgraded" my desktop to F15 from F13 today. Everything went > > very smoothly except this issue with the ugly fonts. For some > > reason for the same font settings I get

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/25/2011 02:16 PM, Kam Leo wrote: > After reading the bug report I can only shake my head. This is Yet Another Example of the Iron Law of Bureaucracy in action. (http://www.jerrypournelle.com/reports/jerryp/iron.html) In this case, the people running the project clearly see nothing wrong w

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 02:46 AM, Kam Leo wrote: > After reading the bug report I can only shake my head. > > 1. The problem was known at least a month before the release date. Yes. As noted in the bug report, a change in the installer and related components are going in for Fedora 16 but the amount of ch

Re: local IMAP server

2011-05-25 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 05/25/2011 04:42 PM, Lewis NH2 wrote: > Good Evening, > > I have a SOHO, and I like to access/answer my emails from every > workstations. Of course everything should be kept up-to-sync. > Furthermore, I'd like to avoid storing all emails on my ISP. Having a > local IMAP server and fetching auto

Re: F14->F15 preupgrade fails

2011-05-25 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Kevin J. Cummings writes: Today, I tried to upgrade my F14 test machine to F15. Machine in question: HP Pavilion 7490 desktop PIII w/512MB ram. There you go. Big flamewar in Bugzilla: minimum install requirements for F15 are, depending on who claims it, either 768mb

Changing from i386 to x86_64 architecture

2011-05-25 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
Once upon a time, I bought a laptop running FC6.i386. It ran well enough at the time, but I wanted to unlock the 64 bit potential of my laptop, so, when the time came to upgrade, I did some research on yum upgrades and determined that there was a file buried in /etc that I could change which would

Re: What on earth is mounted?

2011-05-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 25 May 2011 14:27:48 -0600 Phil Meyer wrote: > Hha! That's nothing. I raise you. Yea, I got all the cgroup stuff as well, but I figure that can be explained. Four separate mounts of the same partition was beyond my comprehension though :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproje

Memory requirements of Fedora15 compared to Fedora13.

2011-05-25 Thread luis redondo
I run Fedora13 i386 on my netbook 1GB RAM.I regularly use VirtualBox to run Windows7.Right now,I allocate 512MB for Fedora13 and 512Mb for the VirtualMachine,Windows7 runs relatively slowly but I can do the tasks with it.My problem is: as the memory requirements are 768MB minimum for Fedora15 a

Re: Fedora 15 installer needs more than 512MB RAM

2011-05-25 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Mike Williams wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> >> On 05/25/2011 10:44 AM, Kam Leo wrote: >> > It seems that the installer files >> > have gotten fatter and more memory is required. >> >> When I checked http://fedoraproject.org/ yesterd

Re: RPMFusion STABLE for Fedora 15 When?

2011-05-25 Thread Manuel Escudero
2011/5/25 Michael Schwendt > On Wed, 25 May 2011 13:38:00 -0500, ME wrote: > > > Just that. > > > > Anyone here knows when RPMFusion for F15 is going to jump into the stable > > branch? > > It has built against Fedora 15 Branched + Updates the whole time, so far, > and still does. What's missing

F13: IPv6 tunnel question/problem

2011-05-25 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
The other day, I had my cable modem drop its connection to the internet. Ah, if I had only noticed it when it happened, instead, I played with the network service on my home server first by issuing: service network restart The message that came back (and still does when I use that command, or wh

Re: Set inittab to 3 -

2011-05-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/25/2011 02:20 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > [bobg@box6]$ ln -s /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target > /etc/systemd/system/default.target > ln: failed to create symbolic link > `/etc/systemd/system/default.target': File exists Probably won't help much but to co

Re: Set inittab to 3 -

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/25/2011 11:50 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > [bobg@box6]$ ln -s /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target > /etc/systemd/system/default.target > ln: failed to create symbolic link > `/etc/systemd/system/default.target': File exists > > And this is where I got in

Re: Mounting cifs

2011-05-25 Thread JD
On 05/24/11 22:07, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > Have you tried the ping tests after turning off your fedora firewall > (iptables)? Are they any better or do they still fail? > What about turning off your XP firewall, just to test the pinging? > I finally zeroed in on the culprit. It is neither fedor

Re: Set inittab to 3

2011-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 02:00 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Once again this is making a major problem of what has always > been a routine configuration change. For fresh installations of Fedora 15, /etc/inittab has the documentation on how to do this. On upgrades, it might get saved as /etc/ini

local IMAP server

2011-05-25 Thread Lewis NH2
Good Evening, I have a SOHO, and I like to access/answer my emails from every workstations. Of course everything should be kept up-to-sync. Furthermore, I'd like to avoid storing all emails on my ISP. Having a local IMAP server and fetching automatically the emails from my ISP sounds quite promisi

Re: RPMFusion STABLE for Fedora 15 When?

2011-05-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 25 May 2011 13:38:00 -0500, ME wrote: > Just that. > > Anyone here knows when RPMFusion for F15 is going to jump into the stable > branch? It has built against Fedora 15 Branched + Updates the whole time, so far, and still does. What's missing is the jump to Fedora 16 development. -- us

F14->F15 preupgrade fails

2011-05-25 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
Today, I tried to upgrade my F14 test machine to F15. Machine in question: HP Pavilion 7490 desktop PIII w/512MB ram. Intel (something old) graphics 1st, I downloaded and burned (to a CD-R) the Live Desktop i686 CD. It boots in the CD drive

Re: What on earth is mounted?

2011-05-25 Thread Harald Hoyer
Am 25.05.2011 um 20:39 schrieb Michael Cronenworth : > Tom Horsley wrote: >> Where on earth do those /tmp /var/tmp and /home entries come from? >> They certainly aren't all mounted on top of the same filesystem root. >> There are no entries for them in /etc/fstab. What is going on? > > systemd h

Re: Set inittab to 3

2011-05-25 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 25/05/11 10:02, R. G. Newbury wrote: >> 2011/5/25 Jan Willies >> 2011/5/25 Bob Goodwin In the kernel-line, where you did put '3'. >> Ah sorry, you edited /etc/inittab. Yes, in the grub screen at the end of the >> 'kernel-line' > After fixing this, you can replace inittab with

Re: What on earth is mounted?

2011-05-25 Thread Phil Meyer
On 05/25/2011 12:17 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > I was checking to see if I had everything mounted that I wanted > in a newly genned f15 system, and I see this insanity in > the output from running "mount": > > /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 > (rw,relatime,errors=continue,user_xattr,acl,barrier=0,data=order

Re: ugly on fonts on upgrade from F13 to F15

2011-05-25 Thread Phil Meyer
On 05/25/2011 09:55 AM, suvayu ali wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I "preupgraded" my desktop to F15 from F13 today. Everything went very > smoothly except this issue with the ugly fonts. For some reason for the > same font settings I get these ugly fonts after the upgrade to F15. I > compared with my F1

Re: What on earth is mounted?

2011-05-25 Thread Tom H
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Tom Horsley wrote: >> Where on earth do those /tmp /var/tmp and /home entries come from? >> They certainly aren't all mounted on top of the same filesystem root. >> There are no entries for them in /etc/fstab. What is going on? > > sy

Re: What on earth is mounted?

2011-05-25 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Tom Horsley wrote: > The mounts I see on f15 don't say "bind" anywhere, so they > are terribly confusing and I really wonder if they are > bind mounts. Hey, don't shoot the messenger. :) The release notes[1] don't make good light of the changes systemd[2] brought, unfortunately. The times I've s

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