Re: Problem with detached network printers in F14

2010-12-16 Thread Joachim Backes
On 12/16/2010 10:45 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: > On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 07:21 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I have a networkwork printer with an URL like: >> >> dnssd://Lexmark%20E120n._printer._tcp.local/ >> >> The avahi daemon is running. But if my system is booted and the printer >> is

Re: About programing, a general question

2010-12-16 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:44:58 -0700 James McKenzie wrote: > I learned to program in HP BASIC, COBOL and FORTRAN, but 'c' is the way to > learn how to program, no 'seat belts'. I have TWO copies of K&Rs book as > well as the 'C Puzzle Book'. For anyone who's new to programming and wants to learn C

Re: About programing, a general question

2010-12-16 Thread Robert Myers
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:44 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > > +1 > > I learned to program in HP BASIC, COBOL and FORTRAN, but 'c' is the way to > learn how to program, no 'seat belts'.  I have TWO copies of K&Rs book as > well as the 'C Puzzle Book'. > I have K&R's book, too, and that's how I le

Re: About programing, a general question

2010-12-16 Thread James McKenzie
On 12/16/10 10:33 AM, Barry wrote: > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 22:32 +0530, "Parshwa Murdia" > wrote: >> hi, >> >> If one has to start from the scratch, from the zeroth level to do the >> programing, which programing language one should start with? In the ocean >> of >> the languages, to start with is re

Re: About programing, a general question

2010-12-16 Thread James McKenzie
On 12/16/10 10:12 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:02:25 -0600 Parshwa Murdia > wrote: > >> hi, >> >> If one has to start from the scratch, from the zeroth level to do the >> programing, which programing language one should start with? In the ocean of >> the languages, to start

SOLVED: Re: Fedora/Grub/GPT/BIOS

2010-12-16 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 12/16/2010 03:26 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: > I'm setting up my new SSD and I've noticed there's a fresh alternative > to the old C/H/S -- the GPT > There are setup steps outlined on ArchWiki [1], but they mention that > grub-legacy won't work with GPT > There's also a HOWTO on booting F14 fr

Re: Evolution mess

2010-12-16 Thread Les
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 07:18 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 09:25 -0800, Les wrote: > [...] > > Anyway, if anyone else has experienced what I am seeing (call it an > > orphan file or file entry), then maybe we can work together to build a > > simple explanation of the link

Fedora/Grub/GPT/BIOS

2010-12-16 Thread Konstantin Svist
I'm setting up my new SSD and I've noticed there's a fresh alternative to the old C/H/S -- the GPT There are setup steps outlined on ArchWiki [1], but they mention that grub-legacy won't work with GPT There's also a HOWTO on booting F14 from UEFI+Grub2 [2], but my system doesn't have UEFI, it ha

various errors related to configuration

2010-12-16 Thread Les
I started with an evolution configuration error, and now a Firefox/Mozilla configuration error, so it appears to me that this might be a system level error. Maybe some file or directory permissions issue, or perhaps a generic configuration error. I tried using the Firefox ProfileManager to create

Re: About programing, a general question

2010-12-16 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On 12/16/10, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > hi, > > If one has to start from the scratch, from the zeroth level to do the > programing, which programing language one should start with? In the ocean of > the languages, to start with is really very typical. Can one justify it. > Some say Python but again t

Re: About programing, a general question

2010-12-16 Thread J.Witvliet
+100 Amen! - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org Aan: Community support for Fedora users Verzonden: Thu Dec 16 18:12:10 2010 Onderwerp: Re: About programing, a general question In my opinion, if you really want to learn computing and its intricacies, u

Re: About programing, a general question

2010-12-16 Thread Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 22:32 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > If one has to start from the scratch, from the zeroth level to do the > programing, which programing language one should start with? My first programming experience started with Coco-TRS80 basic. Then I knew I will love computers. But a

Re: Security ?

2010-12-16 Thread JB
Les pacbell.net> writes: > ... > I don't see the message you are responding to, but what do you think > would justify a back door? The response is to a "revelation" about a backdoor (real or imagined). As a matter of fact, it was made public, with names named, without any backing it up. To me i

Re: Security ?

2010-12-16 Thread James Mckenzie
Les wrote: > >On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 17:21 +, JB wrote: >> JB gmail.com> writes: >> >> > ... >> >> We should be careful with judgements about software backdoors and their >> implementers. >> >> They can be life- or cause-saving, literally, in extreme circumstances (when >> much or many dep

Re: IPSEC tunnel error (timeout ?)

2010-12-16 Thread Greg Woods
> > Here is the log in the source computer : First thing to do is make sure your packets are getting through to the destination computer. What do the logs there show? If you run tcpdump on the destination computer, can you see the packets coming from the source computer? Before diving into the

Re: Security ?

2010-12-16 Thread Les
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 17:21 +, JB wrote: > JB gmail.com> writes: > > > ... > > We should be careful with judgements about software backdoors and their > implementers. > > They can be life- or cause-saving, literally, in extreme circumstances (when > much or many depend on ability to commun

Re: IPSEC tunnel

2010-12-16 Thread Luc MAIGNAN
Hi, I succeed to pass phase1 but not phase2. * Any idea ? * Can a Linux-based IPSEC tunnel can really contact a NETASQ router ? Here is my logs : Dec 16 19:28:43 Fedora-64-2 racoon: INFO: IPsec-SA request for 8x.xxx.xx.xx queued due to no phase1 found. Dec 16 19:28:43 Fedora-64-2 racoo

Re: About programing, a general question

2010-12-16 Thread Barry
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 22:32 +0530, "Parshwa Murdia" wrote: > hi, > > If one has to start from the scratch, from the zeroth level to do the > programing, which programing language one should start with? In the ocean > of > the languages, to start with is really very typical. Can one justify it. > So

Re: Security ?

2010-12-16 Thread JB
JB gmail.com> writes: > ... We should be careful with judgements about software backdoors and their implementers. They can be life- or cause-saving, literally, in extreme circumstances (when much or many depend on ability to communicate with others/outside world). For that reason, I would exp

Re: About programing, a general question

2010-12-16 Thread Ranjan Maitra
In my opinion, if you really want to learn computing and its intricacies, unforgiving C would be the place to start. Ranjan On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:02:25 -0600 Parshwa Murdia wrote: > hi, > > If one has to start from the scratch, from the zeroth level to do the > programing, which programing

About programing, a general question

2010-12-16 Thread Parshwa Murdia
hi, If one has to start from the scratch, from the zeroth level to do the programing, which programing language one should start with? In the ocean of the languages, to start with is really very typical. Can one justify it. Some say Python but again they say it is Perl which is better every time t

Re: Package managers

2010-12-16 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:11:03 am Temlakos wrote: > This isn't totally academic. I also administer a Web server, and I find > that a command-line interface is the only way that I can do any kind of > installation or upgrade. (I have to connect using secure-shell.) Might > as well learn

Re: Package managers

2010-12-16 Thread stan
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:11:03 -0500 Temlakos wrote: > On 12/16/2010 10:29 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:01:45 -0500 > > Temlakos wrote: > > > > > >> Does yumex still preserve this group-searching > >> capability? > >> > > I've given up on all the GUIs. I just use thin

Re: dd question

2010-12-16 Thread stan
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:39:21 +1100 Cameron Simpson wrote: > Always happy to cast aspertions at others :-) Pretty mild to merit the label. And you even included more good content. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fe

Re: Package managers

2010-12-16 Thread Temlakos
On 12/16/2010 10:29 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:01:45 -0500 > Temlakos wrote: > > >> Does yumex still preserve this group-searching >> capability? >> > I've given up on all the GUIs. I just use things like > "yum search", etc. > > All the GUIs seem to have decided (on

Re: Package managers

2010-12-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:01:45 -0500 Temlakos wrote: > Does yumex still preserve this group-searching > capability? I've given up on all the GUIs. I just use things like "yum search", etc. All the GUIs seem to have decided (on the basis of apparent total urban legend) to split into the GUI half a

Re: Package managers

2010-12-16 Thread Rex Dieter
Temlakos wrote: > 2.KPackagekit does not allow very good searching within groups of > packages anymore--not in F14, it doesn't. That feature was inadvertantly not enabled properly, and an updated kpk is coming soon that should fix it. -- Rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: Package managers

2010-12-16 Thread John Pilkington
On 16/12/10 15:01, Temlakos wrote: > Everyone: > > Some package-management questions: > > 1.The package called "smart" doesn't seem to work anymore. It seems > to me that it can't keep up with its channel files. I wonder why F14 > even has a version of "smart" in its repos, if we already have y

Re: Installing Adobe Flash Player in F14

2010-12-16 Thread Paul Smith
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: >> I am using the version >> >> 10.2.161.0 >> >> of flash, and I am noticing that it crashes often inside Firefox on a >> 64 bits machine running F14, specially at the following site: >> >> http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > You either

Package managers

2010-12-16 Thread Temlakos
Everyone: Some package-management questions: 1.The package called "smart" doesn't seem to work anymore. It seems to me that it can't keep up with its channel files. I wonder why F14 even has a version of "smart" in its repos, if we already have yum, yumex, and package managers specific to

Re: Wireless

2010-12-16 Thread David Liguori
On 12/16/2010 7:54 AM, cibertazzi2001 wrote: > My Fedora 14 can not find my wireless card Realtek 8187se, finally can > not get wireless on netbook. Anyone have any tips for how to make it work ? > Best Regards > Caio > Also search "ndiswrapper" There is a "how to" that got me up and running

Re: Installing Adobe Flash Player in F14

2010-12-16 Thread Temlakos
On 12/16/2010 09:17 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 18:56 -0500, Temlakos wrote: > >> I've tried several times to install the Adobe-provided .rpm on a new F14 >> installation, without result. >> >> What must I do--take the tarball? >> >> Temlakos >> > Sorry what I said is

Re: dependency problem with Knetworkmanger in repo's

2010-12-16 Thread Rex Dieter
Jim wrote: > Fedora 13 / KDE > > knetworkmanager-0.9-0.19 > and > knetworkmanager-libs-0.9-0.28 > > Different versions are in repo and can't install knetworkmanager knetworkmanger should be Obsoleted by kde-plasma-networkmanagement now. -- Rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: Installing Adobe Flash Player in F14

2010-12-16 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 18:56 -0500, Temlakos wrote: > I've tried several times to install the Adobe-provided .rpm on a new F14 > installation, without result. > > What must I do--take the tarball? > > Temlakos Sorry what I said is for the Adobe Reader. For flash the yum approach works foe me. --

Re: usb name in /dev

2010-12-16 Thread Hiisi
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 04:17 -0800, community help wrote: > Hi, > > Your answer is very interesting. Thank you for taking the time to give > me all that information. You are right, the usb modem comes with a win > and mac auto-installation, but nothing for linux. I found on the net > that some poep

Re: Security ?

2010-12-16 Thread JB
Alan Cox lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes: > ... I see it also from a different perspective. I am wondering about the timing of it. The "revelation" about a possible backdoor in OpenBSD, followed by dev's (and not only) comments that FreeBSD and Linux may follow. We know, realistically, that no sof

Re: Installing Adobe Flash Player in F14

2010-12-16 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 18:56 -0500, Temlakos wrote: > I've tried several times to install the Adobe-provided .rpm on a new F14 > installation, without result. > > What must I do--take the tarball? > > Temlakos I usually settle for the .bin executable. --

Re: sage

2010-12-16 Thread Patrick Dupre
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010, Jon Ingason wrote: 2010-12-15 18:13, Patrick Dupre skrev: On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Andrew Haley wrote: On 12/15/2010 04:58 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: I understand, but I am trying to install sage-4.6-linux-64bit-fedora_release_13_goddard_-x86_64-Linux.tar.lzma which seems to

Re: Installing Adobe Flash Player in F14

2010-12-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 07:57:21 -0600 Richard Shaw wrote: > /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/nswrapper_64_64.libflashplayer.so > Original plugin: /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so > Wrapper version string: X (1.3.0) Bug beware of bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6582

Re: [389-users] problem with SSL

2010-12-16 Thread remy d1
2010/12/14 Rich Megginson > On 12/14/2010 01:51 AM, remy d1 wrote: > > Hi list, > > I have followed the instructions of the SSL Howto, but I am still stick > at the SSL activation. > > From a clean installation, I try to launch the setupssl.sh script, but at > the end, I have > > ldapmodify: i

Re: Installing Adobe Flash Player in F14

2010-12-16 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Paul Smith wrote: > I am using the version > > 10.2.161.0 > > of flash, and I am noticing that it crashes often inside Firefox on a > 64 bits machine running F14, specially at the following site: > > http://translate.google.com/translate_t You either need to insta

Re: sage

2010-12-16 Thread Jon Ingason
2010-12-15 18:13, Patrick Dupre skrev: > On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Andrew Haley wrote: > >> On 12/15/2010 04:58 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: >> >>> I understand, but I am trying to install >>> sage-4.6-linux-64bit-fedora_release_13_goddard_-x86_64-Linux.tar.lzma >>> >>> which seems to indicates that this is

Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?

2010-12-16 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 13:58 -0500, William Case wrote: > On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 17:22 -0500, William Case wrote: > > Hi; > > > > I thought I would like to try a game. The Fedora Repo list gives about > > 60 at least. I am over sixty, not decrepit yet, but certainly don't > > want to continually l

Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?

2010-12-16 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 20:13 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > Took over it... :) > > Sorry to ask you to do something right after taking it over but I > tried it out and I can't login to the official server from > spring-lobby since the current

Re: Wireless

2010-12-16 Thread Terry Polzin
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 10:54 -0200, cibertazzi2001 wrote: > My Fedora 14 can not find my wireless card Realtek 8187se, finally can > not get wireless on netbook. Anyone have any tips for how to make it work ? > Best Regards > Caio Search the forum for my similar issue with F13. Go back about 10-1

Wireless

2010-12-16 Thread cibertazzi2001
My Fedora 14 can not find my wireless card Realtek 8187se, finally can not get wireless on netbook. Anyone have any tips for how to make it work ? Best Regards Caio -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/m

Re: usb name in /dev

2010-12-16 Thread community help
Hi, Your answer is very interesting. Thank you for taking the time to give me all that information. You are right, the usb modem comes with a win and mac auto-installation, but nothing for linux. I found on the net that some poeple made it work for ubuntu and other linux distributions quite eas

Re: Security ?

2010-12-16 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:42:44 + (UTC) JB wrote: > JB gmail.com> writes: > > > ... > > http://blogs.csoonline.com/1296/an_fbi_backdoor_in_openbsd > > http://maycontaintracesofbolts.blogspot.com/2010/12/openbsd-ipsec-backdoor-allegations.html Who knows - stranger things have happened - eg t

Re: Linux Format mag. article F14 vs ubuntu

2010-12-16 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 00:10 -0500, Robert Myers wrote: >> I used to be a samba stud.  Once I saw that ubuntu would do it for me, >> I thought, "Why should I have to?"  I have a pretty complicated >> network.  One less application/server to c

Re: Installing Adobe Flash Player in F14

2010-12-16 Thread Paul Smith
I am using the version 10.2.161.0 of flash, and I am noticing that it crashes often inside Firefox on a 64 bits machine running F14, specially at the following site: http://translate.google.com/translate_t Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscr

dependency problem with Knetworkmanger in repo's

2010-12-16 Thread Jim
Fedora 13 / KDE knetworkmanager-0.9-0.19 and knetworkmanager-libs-0.9-0.28 Different versions are in repo and can't install knetworkmanager -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Gu

Re: Bugs in yum for fedora 14 ?

2010-12-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:57:51 +0100, Sjoerd wrote: > >> # cat /etc/yum.repos.d/lingeek.repo > >> [lingeek] > >> name=lingeek - Fedora compiled Packages for personal use. > >> baseurl=http://ftp.lingeek.nl/pub/linux/$releasever > >> enabled=1 > >> gpgcheck=1 > >> gpgkey=http://ftp.lingeek.nl/pub/lin

Re: file system mount and umount timestamps?

2010-12-16 Thread John Haxby
On 15 December 2010 17:46, mike cloaked wrote: > > I could not find any direct way to get at the last umount time but I > wonder if this is recorded in the /var/log/messages file ? > > For ext4 (and presumable ext2 and ext3 as well) the unmount time is not recorded explicitly. However, if a file

Re: Problem with detached network printers in F14

2010-12-16 Thread Tim Waugh
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 07:21 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a networkwork printer with an URL like: > > dnssd://Lexmark%20E120n._printer._tcp.local/ > > The avahi daemon is running. But if my system is booted and the printer > is switched off coincidentally, then it remains dis

Re: Security ?

2010-12-16 Thread JB
JB gmail.com> writes: > ... http://blogs.csoonline.com/1296/an_fbi_backdoor_in_openbsd http://maycontaintracesofbolts.blogspot.com/2010/12/openbsd-ipsec-backdoor-allegations.html JB The Angels - My Boyfriend's Back http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0VDYhFvu78 -- users mailing list users@lis

Re: attacks, that could be prevented with iptables

2010-12-16 Thread John Haxby
On 15 December 2010 20:00, S Mathias wrote: > > 5) is there a command to get info, that how many packets went through e.g.: > the > > $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 20:21 -j ACCEPT > or the > $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p tcp -m multiport --dport 80,443 -j ACCEPT > line? are there any statistics abo