Re: iPod touch and F13?

2010-06-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On 15/06/10 07:28, Peter Lesterhuis wrote: --snip-- > How do I find the mount point of the ipod Touch? > try: "blkid" at the command prompt. look at the various mounts. and you may find the ipod. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- users mailing list users@lists.fedor

iPod touch and F13?

2010-06-14 Thread Peter Lesterhuis
> > I just tried plugging my iPod touch on F13, and to my surprise, it did > appear on rhythmbox (as advertised on the release notes). However, even > though it offers a "create new playlist" option on the iPod popup menu and > allows me to drag songs to the iPod (it even says it is transferring th

[OT] posting to fedoraproject lists that I am not subscribed to

2010-06-14 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi, Is it possible to post to any of the lists I am not subscribed to? I am asking this because there is one thread on the fedora virt list that is of interest to me, but I don't want to subscribe to another mailing list just for that. Any suggestions? -- Suvayu Open source is the future. I

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-14 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Monday 14 June 2010 09:02 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: > ... Never had this problem with > Windows. Understand the topo? But then Windows doesn't have kernel updates ... -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or ch

Re: Adobe (Temporarily?) Kills 64-Bit Flash For Linux

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/15/2010 01:28 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > There was a similar problem 35 years ago with consumer video recording and/or > playback formats. Ultimately, the consumer chose which format it preferred. > They will, again. It just takes time. > > Of course, it could be argued, that 35 ye

Re: Adobe (Temporarily?) Kills 64-Bit Flash For Linux

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Mon, 6/14/10, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 08:32 -0700, > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > By that time, if Adobe is true to form, HTML5 will be > fully > > implemented and out for two years, and there'll be no > need Flash > > anymore. ;-)  Praise the day! > > Wishful thinking, because al

Re: Adobe (Temporarily?) Kills 64-Bit Flash For Linux

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Mon, 6/14/10, Greg Woods wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 08:20 -0700, > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > In any case, I don't think the "hole" will cause much > problems with Linux based systems.  When you read of > the panic attacks people are having, it's usually about > Windows systems. > >

Re: Mounting KVM image

2010-06-14 Thread Alex
Hi, > Take it a step at a time: > >  guestfish -a systmp-img.img --ro >  > list-devices >  > list-partitions >  > lvs > > You can then mount the partition(s) that contain data you want to > read, for example: > >  > mount /dev/vda1 / For me, this produced: > mount /dev/vda1 / libguestfs: error:

Re: Adobe (Temporarily?) Kills 64-Bit Flash For Linux

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Mon, 6/14/10, Steve Underwood wrote: > On 06/14/2010 11:20 PM, Patrick > Bartek wrote: > > >> [snip]     > > I thought 10.1 was the one with the problem.  In > any case, I don't think the "hole" will cause much problems > with Linux based systems.  When you read of the panic > attacks peo

Re: how to set screen resolution for HP6710b on Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 14:07:35 +1000, L wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed Fedora 13 on HP 6710B. It looks all good, but the > screen resolution is set to 1024X800. I can set it to it max ( > 1650x1024?) I found some information claiming that the native resolution of the screen on that laptop

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 00:02:33 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: > This rhetoric makes sense only if you think that going the Sun way is not > the way to go for Red Hat. And if you want newbies to join the Red Hat's > ecosystem, telling them to RTFM just won't work. Things are going to have to > wor

Re: iPod touch and F13?

2010-06-14 Thread Todd Zullinger
Andre Costa wrote: > I just tried plugging my iPod touch on F13, and to my surprise, it > did appear on rhythmbox (as advertised on the release notes). > However, even though it offers a "create new playlist" option on the > iPod popup menu and allows me to drag songs to the iPod (it even > says it

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 23:03:13 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: > > Are you really sure that the maintainers of a repository that doesn't belong > to Fedora could stop a Fedora kernel upgrade? No I am not. Fedora can't do anything about it under the current policies. It essentially has no knowledg

Re: how to set screen resolution for HP6710b on Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 14:07 +1000, L wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed Fedora 13 on HP 6710B. It looks all good, but the > screen resolution is set to 1024X800. I can set it to it max ( > 1650x1024?) > > hope some help to fix it? If that resolution is not an option using GNOME or KDE display

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-14 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 00:02 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: > > > Is this done on purpose in order to chase new users away? Is > somebody > > working for Ubuntu here? > > > This sort of rhetoric is unnecessary if you are looking for > help. > > This rhetoric makes sense only if you

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-14 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 23:03 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Bruno Wolff III > wrote: > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 19:13:59 -0400, > Marcel Rieux wrote: > > > > So, the oldest kmod-nvidia is removed with the oldest kernel > and it

iPod touch and F13?

2010-06-14 Thread Andre Costa
Hi, I just tried plugging my iPod touch on F13, and to my surprise, it did appear on rhythmbox (as advertised on the release notes). However, even though it offers a "create new playlist" option on the iPod popup menu and allows me to drag songs to the iPod (it even says it is transferring the fil

Re: Mounting KVM image

2010-06-14 Thread Alex
Hi, > OK, here's your problem: the offset option for losetup was not properly calculated. > http://www.campworld.net/thewiki/pmwiki.php/Linux/DiskImagesHOWTO Yes, you're right, but your calculation were also wrong. It's 512, not 1024. The link you sent was a great help in getting it working prope

how to set screen resolution for HP6710b on Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread L
Hi, I have installed Fedora 13 on HP 6710B. It looks all good, but the screen resolution is set to 1024X800. I can set it to it max ( 1650x1024?) hope some help to fix it? -- http://etvillage.blogspot.com/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscriptio

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-14 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/15/2010 04:43 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: > > = > > > > So, the oldest kmod-nvidia is removed with the oldest kernel and it > > will still be possible to boot with the present kernel. ..

F13: graphviz-php fails to load

2010-06-14 Thread Steven F. LeBrun
PHP is failing to load the /usr/lib/php/modules/gv.so dynamic library due to an undefined symbol, zend_error_noreturn. From what I have read on the web, the missing zend_error_noreturn issue is usually due to changes in which compiler is used. The difference in how zend_end_noreturn is define

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-14 Thread Todd Zullinger
Marcel Rieux wrote: > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Dale J. Chatham > wrote: [...] >> While you are correct in what you say, at the end of the day, >> really doesn't matter. Gonna have a lot of people angry and >> blaming Fedora. > > Exactly. It's no use trying to find culprits: it must work.

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-14 Thread Larry Brower
Marcel Rieux wrote: > Some might argue that those who might be blamed by the unenlightened > should do something to keep people from crashing their new systems and > not knowing why or how to work around it. > > While you are correct in what you say, at the end of the day, really

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-14 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > On 06/14/2010 06:29 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 19:13:59 -0400, > >Marcel Rieux wrote: > > > > For this issue you are really complaining to the wrong people. > kmod-nvidia > > is from their repository. If la

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-14 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 19:13:59 -0400, > Marcel Rieux wrote: > > > > So, the oldest kmod-nvidia is removed with the oldest kernel and it will > > still be possible to boot with the present kernel. .. but not with the > new > > kernel be

Requested classes

2010-06-14 Thread Ian MacGregor
From: Ian MacGregor To: Fedora Classroom List Subject:Requested classes Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:57:58 -0700 Greetings, My name is Ian MacGregor and I am the wiki tender for the Fedora Classroom. Currently, there is a list of requested classes at: http://fedoraproject.org/wik

Re: Klipper search box doesn't disappear

2010-06-14 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Perhaps or perhaps you are seeing problems others have not. In either > case, file a bug report with the details would be useful. > Thanks to Ed's answer, I could figure this is a possibility. So, I made a few tests. 1) I rebooted. I s

F13 OpenJDK bugs ?

2010-06-14 Thread Dan Irwin
Is anyone else seeing major stability issues with OpenJDK on F13? I can reliably kill Netbeans by repeatedly resizing any dialog window before swing gets a chance to repaint. This does not happen when using Sun 1.6.20. If anyone is interested, I used abrt to report this to bugzilla. See 603962.

Re: Klipper search box doesn't disappear

2010-06-14 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/15/2010 07:00 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: > > More fun with Klipper! > > > > Just as it used to do before, most of the time, it's impossible to > > paste in gedit unless the first entry is reselected. > > > > In OOo, either using the middle m

Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?

2010-06-14 Thread A. Racca
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 20:53 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 19:05 -0600, linux guy wrote: > > Everything was fine in F12. Right now I have the following issues: > > > > 1) Network Manager doesn't have an icon in my system tray. > > 2) Firefox is a bit unstable from time

Re: Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?

2010-06-14 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 15:38 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > > Should have mentioned, discspan.py already has the changes, I just > included the patch file if you want to see what changed. > > Richard, > > I just finished writing out the

Re: Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?

2010-06-14 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 15:38 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > Should have mentioned, discspan.py already has the changes, I just > included the patch file if you want to see what changed. Richard, I just finished writing out the "0" disc. Before that I confirmed that your "--test" fix works. Did you

Re: growisofs crashes system

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/15/2010 09:18 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:ector number sometimes > changes, but that's about the only variation.) > > I then tried burning from k3b using wodim instead of growisofs, and that > worked fine. Also, growisofs worked without problems in F12. > Just curious... Does it also fi

Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 19:05 -0600, linux guy wrote: > Everything was fine in F12. Right now I have the following issues: > > 1) Network Manager doesn't have an icon in my system tray. > 2) Firefox is a bit unstable from time to time. > 3) Evolution refuses to connect to the network connection for

growisofs crashes system

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
... and I have a pile of coasters to prove it. dvd+rw-tools-7.1-4.fc12.x86_64 (there doesn't appear to be an F13 rpm). The problem arose when trying to burn a DVD from k3b. Finally I tried it from the command line: /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/sr0 -R -J My-Movie/ The system immediately freezes. It

Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?

2010-06-14 Thread linux guy
Everything was fine in F12. Right now I have the following issues: 1) Network Manager doesn't have an icon in my system tray. 2) Firefox is a bit unstable from time to time. 3) Evolution refuses to connect to the network connection for the session. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 18:32 -0500, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > On 06/14/2010 06:29 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 19:13:59 -0400, > >Marcel Rieux wrote: > > > > For this issue you are really complaining to the wrong people. > kmod-nvidia > > is from their repository. If la

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/15/2010 04:43 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: > = > > So, the oldest kmod-nvidia is removed with the oldest kernel and it > will still be possible to boot with the present kernel. .. but not > with the new kernel because the new kmod-nvidia is not i

Re: Klipper search box doesn't disappear

2010-06-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/15/2010 04:30 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: > More fun with Klipper! > > Just as it used to do before, most of the time, it's impossible to > paste in gedit unless the first entry is reselected. > > In OOo, either using the middle mouse button or CTRL + V, what appears > are a empty spaces or

Re: Klipper search box doesn't disappear

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/15/2010 07:00 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: > More fun with Klipper! > > Just as it used to do before, most of the time, it's impossible to > paste in gedit unless the first entry is reselected. > > In OOo, either using the middle mouse button or CTRL + V, what appears > are a empty spaces or

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
On 06/14/2010 06:29 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 19:13:59 -0400, >Marcel Rieux wrote: > > For this issue you are really complaining to the wrong people. kmod-nvidia > is from their repository. If lack of an updated kmod-nvidia update needs > to block a kernel update, it

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 19:13:59 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: > > So, the oldest kmod-nvidia is removed with the oldest kernel and it will > still be possible to boot with the present kernel. .. but not with the new > kernel because the new kmod-nvidia is not installed. Which means newbies > will

Another funny update?

2010-06-14 Thread Marcel Rieux
Here's the last update suggestion I received today: == PackageArch Version RepositorySize =

Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 23:25 +0200, Dario Lesca wrote: > Il giorno lun, 14/06/2010 alle 11.35 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan ha > scritto: > > > > I use Chromium rather than FF. The only problem is that Java (IcedTea > > plugin for x86_64) has decided to stop working, but I think FF users > > are seein

Re: F12: Palmiquist

2010-06-14 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 06/14/2010 03:37 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Is there any way that I can use palmiquist (hard disk check) > to automatically check and report any hard-disk failures? > On F11, it was bubble-reported whenever there was a > failing HD, but on F12 this does not seem to be the case? > > Ok, ne

Re: Klipper search box doesn't disappear

2010-06-14 Thread Marcel Rieux
More fun with Klipper! Just as it used to do before, most of the time, it's impossible to paste in gedit unless the first entry is reselected. In OOo, either using the middle mouse button or CTRL + V, what appears are a empty spaces or ^^^ ^ Please don't tell me I'm a ranter. I kno

F12: Palmiquist

2010-06-14 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
Is there any way that I can use palmiquist (hard disk check) to automatically check and report any hard-disk failures? On F11, it was bubble-reported whenever there was a failing HD, but on F12 this does not seem to be the case? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?

2010-06-14 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno lun, 14/06/2010 alle 11.35 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan ha scritto: > > I use Chromium rather than FF. The only problem is that Java (IcedTea > plugin for x86_64) has decided to stop working, but I think FF users > are seeing the same thing so it's a Java problem. There is a broken symbo

Re: top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread g
Marvin Kosmal wrote: > So I just fixed my own problem.. only partly. > Don't know why I didn't notice it before.. > > There is a bar called "More Options" who reads all of what is on page until they have need? > Click on that and it brings up all the text and I can scroll to the bottom.. >

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread g
Jerry Feldman wrote: > On 06/14/2010 04:33 PM, g wrote: >> thunderbird does produce disk i/o activity when in compose mode. >> >> there is a storing of message in 'drafts folder' and is set with >> 'preferences'. >> >> > This is true, I didn't think of it. Could also be related to my /home >

Re: top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 13:40 -0700, Marvin Kosmal wrote: > There is a bar called "More Options" > > Click on that and it brings up all the text and I can scroll to the > bottom.. Hmm, I'm not seeing it. Do you mean the "More Actions" drop-down? poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproje

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 11:32 -0700, bruce wrote: > are we doin a top/bottom post flame war again!!! No-one has flamed anyone so far, so hopefully that would be a no. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 04:33 PM, g wrote: > Jerry Feldman wrote: > > > >> I think the offline storage is very unlikely as there was not (or should >> not have been) any disk I/O activity at the times. >> > thunderbird does produce disk i/o activity when in compose mode. > > there is a storing of m

[OT] A questions about Fedora/KVM friendly hardware

2010-06-14 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
Hello, I was running Fedora's Virt-manager w/ Qemu/Kqemu, after some change in Qemu (no more support Kqemu) i have switched to VMware Player in my laptop/ and VMware Server in my home workstation/server (i have tested Virtualbox too), now i want to buy a new Motherboard/CPU that support Hardwa

Re: Fedora 12/13 network printer oddness

2010-06-14 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 08:52 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Tim wrote: >> > On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 16:00 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> >> No, it's connected through IPP: >> >> >> >> ipp://hobbes.localdomain:631

Re: top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 04:24 PM, g wrote: > why changed settings. how would google or any email client know what > you want to reply to? > > i know gmail and thunderbird do not know what i want to reply to, so > i have them set to start at top of quoted message While many email programs, such as T-Bird give

Re: top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On 6/14/10, g wrote: > Marvin Kosmal wrote: > > >> In my case. It is google... >> >> It wants to top post.. I have to fight it.. > > is google making you top post, or is google putting your cursor at top > of quoted so you can trim dead history and reply interspersed? > > >> Maybe there is a

Re: Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?

2010-06-14 Thread Richard Shaw
Should have mentioned, discspan.py already has the changes, I just included the patch file if you want to see what changed. Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

Re: Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?

2010-06-14 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage > wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 10:37 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: >>> None of my code ended up in the rewrite but the --te

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread g
Jerry Feldman wrote: > I think the offline storage is very unlikely as there was not (or should > not have been) any disk I/O activity at the times. thunderbird does produce disk i/o activity when in compose mode. there is a storing of message in 'drafts folder' and is set with 'preferences'.

Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?

2010-06-14 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On 06/14/2010 09:19 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 09:25 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: >> Is it me or are there lots of little instabilities in F13 ? >> >> Firefox, Evolution, etc ? >> >> Thanks >> > > I am not seeing any instabilities in Firefox, etc. > -- > =

Re: top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread g
Marvin Kosmal wrote: > In my case. It is google... > > It wants to top post.. I have to fight it.. is google making you top post, or is google putting your cursor at top of quoted so you can trim dead history and reply interspersed? > Maybe there is a setting I haven't seen that will bott

Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?

2010-06-14 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 09:25 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > Is it me or are there lots of little instabilities in F13 ? > > Firefox, Evolution, etc ? > > Thanks > I am not seeing any instabilities in Firefox, etc. -- === The pr

Re: Fedora 12/13 network printer oddness

2010-06-14 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 08:52 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Tim wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 16:00 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > >> No, it's connected through IPP: > >> > >> ipp://hobbes.localdomain:631/printers/Photosmart-C5500-series > > > > Does "hobbes.locald

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 06/14/2010 09:50 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > In the past, Thunderbird would freeze temporarily while waiting to > obtain a GPG key or to load some graphics. However in Thunderbird 3.04 > on Fedora 13 (x86_64) I'm seeing some issues where the screen goes dark, > even while I am composing. After a

Re: top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:43:25 -0700 Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > I can't decide if top posting or folks that don't trim the quoted lines > to two or three lines of context are more annoying. What is whith this? > Have we had the invasion of the lazy people? We probably have the invasion of the

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 03:25 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 06/14/2010 03:10 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: >> I moved to T-Bird from Claws (on Linux of course) a few years ago. I >> generally use the version on T-Bird that is on the current Fedora repo. >> The freeze condition that I see is just an annoying pai

Re: top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On 6/14/10, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > > I can't decide if top posting or folks that don't trim the quoted lines > to two or three lines of context are more annoying. What is whith this? > Have we had the invasion of the lazy people? > > -wolfgang > -- In my case. It is google... It w

Re: top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
I blame it on lazy people, busy people, unthinking people and T-1 speeds to the home :) In my case, when I do it, it's the last two items :) On 06/14/2010 02:43 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > I can't decide if top posting or folks that don't trim the quoted lines > to two or three lines

top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
I can't decide if top posting or folks that don't trim the quoted lines to two or three lines of context are more annoying. What is whith this? Have we had the invasion of the lazy people? -wolfgang -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription option

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/14/2010 03:10 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: >> > I moved to T-Bird from Claws (on Linux of course) a few years ago. I > generally use the version on T-Bird that is on the current Fedora repo. > The freeze condition that I see is just an annoying pain because it > occurs while I am typing. it i

Re: Fedora 12/13 network printer oddness

2010-06-14 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 08:52 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> I think it has something to do with my wife's laptop but I have no >> idea what's going on. I scanned her IP with nmap and it couldn't find >> any trace that her laptop is even there, however, a

Re: Status of SSDs under Fedora ?

2010-06-14 Thread Michael Cronenworth
John Austin wrote: > 3. Does setting the "discard" option do everything that is required to enable > TRIM to do its job with no further action? Yes. > > 4. Is it safe to use the "discard" option yet? I am using ext4 on /boot. btrfs on /. No issues with /boot or /. There were a few mailings[1] a

Re: Adobe (Temporarily?) Kills 64-Bit Flash For Linux

2010-06-14 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Tim wrote: > We're likely to have yet another encumbered format > foisted upon everyone, as everyone knows that everyone uses Windows, > with a few Mac users, all of which will get a licensed player... WebM[1] seems to be the likely candidate. Fedora added support for it last week. [1] http://ww

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread bruce
Dale, if your statement was directed to my posting... get a better grip.. i was using the well honed process of SARCASM!!! every so often, on god knows how many forum/threads.. the issue of "correct" posting jumps up... those of us who've been using email since the early 80s no longer really car

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 03:00 PM, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > On 06/14/2010 01:56 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > >> Thanks Steve, >> but this is currently and has been off forever. >> I also can look at the add-ons. I only have Enigmail (for GNUPG), >> AdblockPlus, Remove duplicates, and English dictionary. I al

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 01:08 PM, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > On 06/14/2010 12:04 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > >> On 06/14/2010 11:50 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: >> >> >>> In the past, Thunderbird would freeze temporarily while waiting to >>> obtain a GPG key or to load some graphics. However in Thunderbi

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
On 06/14/2010 01:43 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > > Let's not get into a flame war over this. I belong to and run a number > of listservs going back nearly 20 years. Many lists I am on (or have > been on) have the "though shalt not top post" commandment. There is a > sound reasoning for it. While I do

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
On 06/14/2010 01:56 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > Thanks Steve, > but this is currently and has been off forever. > I also can look at the add-ons. I only have Enigmail (for GNUPG), > AdblockPlus, Remove duplicates, and English dictionary. I also have > Thunderbrowse turned on (I thought I had it disa

Re: Fedora 12/13 network printer oddness

2010-06-14 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 08:52 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > I think it has something to do with my wife's laptop but I have no > idea what's going on. I scanned her IP with nmap and it couldn't find > any trace that her laptop is even there, however, all network > connections coming FROM her laptop co

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 01:04 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > On 06/14/2010 11:50 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > >> In the past, Thunderbird would freeze temporarily while waiting to >> obtain a GPG key or to load some graphics. However in Thunderbird 3.04 >> on Fedora 13 (x86_64) I'm seeing some issues where the s

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
Actually, I have had a rather pleasant conversation with a gentleman offline. It is folks who post things like this which offer nothing constructive that encourage a flame war. Sometimes if you don't have anything useful to contribute, it's just best, well, not to contribute. On 06/14/2010 01

Re: Anyone got sound with Intel ICH10 chipset? (stopped after F13 upgrade)

2010-06-14 Thread Graham TerMarsch
Digging into this further, I'm seeing that "Phonon" is the culprit here... If I use mplayer, rhythmbox, or banshee to pump audio through PulseAudio, it works fine. Amarok (and all of KDE for that matter), when pumping audio through Phonon, gets all botched up. For fun, I tried updating to the

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 01:07 PM, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > > Yeah, just caught that after I hit send. > > But to answer your question, I have *NEVER* posted this way. You're > fighting over 15 years of training to do it otherwise. > > I frankly think such control is a bit Draconian, but it's not my list,

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread bruce
oh my gawd!!! are we doin a top/bottom post flame war again!!! alright.. all who are frmo san fran.. which do you like, top, or bottom!! and what about people who like diagonal posting.. and how about side posting... for those who can't make up their minds... any others that have been left out

Re: Subject: Subject: Re: Amazing problem of /boot

2010-06-14 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 18:33 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > but if we have more kernels, it occupies more space, may be less, > though it may be good for testing purpose but for disk utility is it > okay always to have more than one kernel? I think some meaning is getting lost in translation. Unle

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 12:07 -0500, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > But to answer your question, I have *NEVER* posted this way. You're > fighting over 15 years of training to do it otherwise. Hmm, couldn't have been a real usenet user then... > But, given 15 years, and this being the *ONLY* list (of u

Re: upgrading webcam....and pulseaudio

2010-06-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:05:05 +0200 antonio montagnani wrote: > If webcam is connected to an USB portafter start-up, system seems to > work properly. > Any suggestion, any bug to file??? I've always had to create a modprobe.d config file to force the order of audio device assignment to be consist

Re: Adobe (Temporarily?) Kills 64-Bit Flash For Linux

2010-06-14 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 08:32 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > By that time, if Adobe is true to form, HTML5 will be fully > implemented and out for two years, and there'll be no need Flash > anymore. ;-) Praise the day! Wishful thinking, because all the pre-existing sites full of Flash will not be c

upgrading webcam....and pulseaudio

2010-06-14 Thread antonio montagnani
I bought a microsoft VX5000 USB webcam (with integrated mike) replacing an old logitech device with no mike. Now when it is connected at start-up my system doesn't see the audio chip (ICH5), i.e. it is listed in lspci but not available in pulseaudio, therefore I do not have any sound at all (no

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 12:07 -0500, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > On 06/14/2010 11:57 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > > On 06/14/2010 12:54 PM, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > > > >> Ga > >> > >> I was wondering why I had to scroll past pages to find the newly added > >> part of the conversation. Ha

Shotwell -- not support .gif and .png?

2010-06-14 Thread Steven Stern
I decided to compare shotwell to f-spot and had it import the files in ~/Photos that had been managed by f-spot. At the end, it failed to import all .gif and .png files. If shotwell is the default image manager for F13, how can it ignore these formats? -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@

Re: Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?

2010-06-14 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 10:37 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: >> None of my code ended up in the rewrite but the --test and --disk-start >> options were my ideas. >> >> I'm not sur

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
On 06/14/2010 12:04 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > On 06/14/2010 11:50 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > >> In the past, Thunderbird would freeze temporarily while waiting to >> obtain a GPG key or to load some graphics. However in Thunderbird 3.04 >> on Fedora 13 (x86_64) I'm seeing some issues where the

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
On 06/14/2010 11:57 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > On 06/14/2010 12:54 PM, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > >> Ga >> >> I was wondering why I had to scroll past pages to find the newly added >> part of the conversation. >> >> Since it appears to be the rules, sure, but, gakk! >> >>

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Steven Stern
On 06/14/2010 11:50 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > In the past, Thunderbird would freeze temporarily while waiting to > obtain a GPG key or to load some graphics. However in Thunderbird 3.04 > on Fedora 13 (x86_64) I'm seeing some issues where the screen goes dark, > even while I am composing. After a

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 12:54 PM, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > Ga > > I was wondering why I had to scroll past pages to find the newly added > part of the conversation. > > Since it appears to be the rules, sure, but, gakk! > > On 06/14/2010 11:52 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> O

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
Ga I was wondering why I had to scroll past pages to find the newly added part of the conversation. Since it appears to be the rules, sure, but, gakk! On 06/14/2010 11:52 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 12:25 -0400, Ray Pittigher wrote: > >> Y

Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
In the past, Thunderbird would freeze temporarily while waiting to obtain a GPG key or to load some graphics. However in Thunderbird 3.04 on Fedora 13 (x86_64) I'm seeing some issues where the screen goes dark, even while I am composing. After a short while, it cathes up. My system is an x86_64 sys

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 12:25 -0400, Ray Pittigher wrote: > Yes that works on the client side but what about seeing what clients > are doing from the server side? [Please don't top-post, on this list. See the Guidelines] AFAIK there is no general solution to this. As has already been noted, NFS sta

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