Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-31 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Monday 31 May 2010 08:48 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: > A friend suggested that I need a radeonhd driver. > yum provides '*radeonhd*' > lists at least two. > Do I need a radeonhd driver, and, if so, > how do I tell which one will work? > radeonhd has been abandoned and is not being maintained any

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-31 Thread Michael Hennebry
A friend suggested that I need a radeonhd driver. yum provides '*radeonhd*' lists at least two. Do I need a radeonhd driver, and, if so, how do I tell which one will work? -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Pessimist: The glass is half empty. Optimist: The glass is half full. Engineer

Re: encrypted disk/partition

2010-05-31 Thread Bill Davidsen
fred smith wrote: > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 01:29:10PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> fred smith wrote: >>> in F13, Anaconda seems to allow encrypted partitions ONLY if you use LVM. >>> If I set up the disk as simple partitions with no lvm/VG/raid, how can >>> I realize encrypted partitions or even

Re: [Fedora] 'userdel' irony -- what do you say ?

2010-05-31 Thread sawrub
On 06/01/2010 08:39 AM, suvayu ali wrote: > On 31 May 2010 20:01, Sawrub wrote: > >> BTW where should i report it any idea, no pointers in the man. >> >> > $ rpm -qf /usr/sbin/userdel > shadow-utils-4.1.4.2-5.fc13.x86_64 > > So file a bug against that package in bugzilla I would presume?

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/31/2010 11:07 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 22:08 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> The question still stands. If only 19% of current Fedora users (a highly >>> technical bunch) make use of torrents, my guess is the majority of >>> new-to-Fedora users would also not. >>> >>> ~m

F13 Workspace switxher failing

2010-05-31 Thread BeartoothBBB
Using the new preupgrade from F12, I'm getting very mixed results. On one PC, it hit the space problem, told me to quit unless I had a wired Net connection (I did), and let me continue. Then it coped, and in very little time F13 was up and running, with all my old data still p

Re: [Fedora] 'userdel' irony -- what do you say ?

2010-05-31 Thread suvayu ali
On 31 May 2010 20:01, Sawrub wrote: > BTW where should i report it any idea, no pointers in the man. > $ rpm -qf /usr/sbin/userdel shadow-utils-4.1.4.2-5.fc13.x86_64 So file a bug against that package in bugzilla I would presume? > -- > Saurabh Sharma -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 22:08 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >The question still stands. If only 19% of current Fedora users (a highly > >technical bunch) make use of torrents, my guess is the majority of > >new-to-Fedora users would also not. > > > >~m > > > And I'll repeat, you did not survey the _us

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 22:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 31 May 2010, Máirín Duffy wrote: > >On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 20:49 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > >> On Mon, 31 May 2010 20:42:34 -0400 > >> > >> Máirín Duffy wrote: > >> > Would a completely new user ask "where are the torrents?" > >> >

Re: [Fedora] 'userdel' irony -- what do you say ?

2010-05-31 Thread Sawrub
On 06/01/2010 12:12 AM, Alan Evans wrote: > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 3:41 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > > >> 1rst pass: The user has been deleted. No bug. >> 2nd pass : There is no more user to delete. What to expect? >> > But the operation wasn't atomic, since userdel was asked to

Re: [Fedora] 'userdel' irony -- what do you say ?

2010-05-31 Thread Sawrub
On 06/01/2010 12:12 AM, Alan Evans wrote: > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 3:41 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > > >> 1rst pass: The user has been deleted. No bug. >> 2nd pass : There is no more user to delete. What to expect? >> > But the operation wasn't atomic, since userdel was asked to

Re: [Fedora] 'userdel' irony -- what do you say ?

2010-05-31 Thread Sawrub
On 05/31/2010 09:47 AM, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: So this would be my guess: The first time you invoked userdel, it removed the user from the system (/etc/passwd, /etc/group, and /etc/shadow) but didn't delete the home folder because according to lastlog the user was still logged in. When y

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 22:06 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 31 May 2010, Máirín Duffy wrote: > >On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 08:22 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> It gets me to wondering how a completely new user would be greeted if > >> they were to see the original "new" Get Fedora web page and wer

Re: [Fedora] 'userdel' irony -- what do you say ?

2010-05-31 Thread Sawrub
On 05/31/2010 04:11 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: >> "Ashley M. Kirchner" : >> Either way, this sounds like a problem with userdel which, if you can >> recreate it, needs to be reported as a bug. >> > I dont think so. > > 1rst pass: The user has been deleted. No bug. > There is a p

Re: [Fedora] 'userdel' irony -- what do you say ?

2010-05-31 Thread Sawrub
On 05/31/2010 09:47 AM, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: So this would be my guess: The first time you invoked userdel, it removed the user from the system (/etc/passwd, /etc/group, and /etc/shadow) but didn't delete the home folder because according to lastlog the user was still logged in. When y

Re: Does anyone know how to debug cups and or lpr SOLVED

2010-05-31 Thread Mark LaPierre
Mike Fleetwood wrote: > On 31 May 2010 04:56, Mark LaPierre wrote: > >> Hey All, >> >> I'm trying to get my printer to work. I have a driver configurator and >> System/Administration/Printing tools. Both find the printer and pass >> all tests of the printer, device and backend, and send a fil

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 31 May 2010, Máirín Duffy wrote: >On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 20:49 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: >> On Mon, 31 May 2010 20:42:34 -0400 >> >> Máirín Duffy wrote: >> > Would a completely new user ask "where are the torrents?" >> >> That is the first question I always ask when I want to download >> a

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 31 May 2010, Máirín Duffy wrote: >On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 08:47 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 06/01/2010 08:42 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: >> > On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 08:22 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> It gets me to wondering how a completely new user would be greeted if >> >> they were to se

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 31 May 2010, Máirín Duffy wrote: >On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 08:22 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> It gets me to wondering how a completely new user would be greeted if >> they were to see the original "new" Get Fedora web page and were to ask >> "Where are the torrents?". Would they be told..."Y

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Jon Stanley
2010/5/31 Máirín Duffy : > Where do you get the '85%' figure from? Do you seriously believe that > 85% of Fedora users are subscribed to this mailing list? That's > ~1,300,000 (~1.3 million) users on this mailing list. Really? Does > mailman even scale that mough? With hard facts, I can assure yo

Re: What is "nomodeset" SUPPOSED to do?

2010-05-31 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Monday 31 May 2010 06:30 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 2010 20:04:53 -0500 > Steven P. Ulrick wrote: > >> What is "nomodeset" SUPPOSED to do? > > The newest kernels have (God knows why) moved the video > mode setting into the kernel (the only explanation I've > ever seen for why this i

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/01/2010 09:39 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > So let's make the assumption that surveys are a useful tool and leave it > at that. If you are uncomfortable with that assumption then we can't > engage in this discussion together, I'm sorry. > Only when done properly > >> Are you saying th

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 21:37 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >You are not in any position to give personal advice without it coming > >across in a manner that you I am sure you would not want to purposefully > >aim for. Personal commentary like this doesn't have any place in this > >discussion so let's

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 09:19 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > I don't buy into your survey..and the fact that you have concluded that > only 19% of current users make use of torrents. It is true that 19% of > the people that knew about your survey, and that chose to respond, use > torrents. Nothing othe

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 31 May 2010, Máirín Duffy wrote: >On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 22:51 +, g wrote: >> Máirín Duffy wrote: >> > On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 16:32 +, g wrote: >> >> where was posting of new design for list members to view new design? >> > >> > On the lists (note the 's' there) where people make po

Re: What is "nomodeset" SUPPOSED to do?

2010-05-31 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 31 May 2010 20:04:53 -0500 "Steven P. Ulrick" wrote: > Hello Everyone, > What is "nomodeset" SUPPOSED to do? I really do want to know, > because I wonder if "nomodeset" is ineffectual on my system, and > that's why I can't get the rpmfusion nVidia driver to work (it used > to work on thi

Re: How to recover printers on fresh install

2010-05-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 31 May 2010 21:21:15 -0400 Genes MailLists wrote: > The info is somewhere - surely there must be a bunch of files we can > copy off the backup ? That printers.conf file plus the contents of the /etc/cups/ppd directory may be all you need to copy, but that assumes the old ppd files and w

Re: What is "nomodeset" SUPPOSED to do?

2010-05-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 31 May 2010 20:04:53 -0500 Steven P. Ulrick wrote: > What is "nomodeset" SUPPOSED to do? The newest kernels have (God knows why) moved the video mode setting into the kernel (the only explanation I've ever seen for why this is a good idea is that the monitor goes "click" less often that w

Re: How to recover printers on fresh install

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/31/2010 09:02 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 2010 20:48:48 -0400 > Genes MailLists wrote: > >> I was running f12. I did a fresh install of f13 .. now does anyone >> know how to restore all the f12 printers onto f13 (I have backups of >> everything). > > I just look at the old /et

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/01/2010 08:49 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 08:47 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 06/01/2010 08:42 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 08:22 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> >>> It gets me to wondering how a completely new user would be g

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/31/2010 08:55 PM, Jon Stanley wrote: > 2010/5/31 Máirín Duffy : > In the spirit of 'its not dead yet' in the immortal words of monte python (pre 2.6 version .. :-) - as regards this thread anyway ! (1) I like the page - it is clean and clear and refreshing and I think serves its purpos

Re: netinst images: What's the point?

2010-05-31 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Joseph L. Casale wrote: >>I'm not sure what's wrong, I just know it never asks me to initialize >>a network connection unless I specify "askmethod", then it does it in >>the non-graphical part of the setup. > > I just pulled the x86 iso down (only had x64) and whip

What is "nomodeset" SUPPOSED to do?

2010-05-31 Thread Steven P. Ulrick
Hello Everyone, What is "nomodeset" SUPPOSED to do? I really do want to know, because I wonder if "nomodeset" is ineffectual on my system, and that's why I can't get the rpmfusion nVidia driver to work (it used to work on this same system under Fedora 12.) I want to go with the nVidia driver b

RE: netinst images: What's the point?

2010-05-31 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>I'm not sure what's wrong, I just know it never asks me to initialize >a network connection unless I specify "askmethod", then it does it in >the non-graphical part of the setup. I just pulled the x86 iso down (only had x64) and whipped up a vm in esxi w/ an emulated E1000 nic and it asked me to

Re: How to recover printers on fresh install

2010-05-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 31 May 2010 20:48:48 -0400 Genes MailLists wrote: > I was running f12. I did a fresh install of f13 .. now does anyone > know how to restore all the f12 printers onto f13 (I have backups of > everything). I just look at the old /etc/cups/printers.conf file and specify the same printer U

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Jon Stanley
2010/5/31 Máirín Duffy : > Would a completely new user ask "where are the torrents?" Now that I'm caught up on this thread, and as one of the people who was consulted during this redesign (note that I'm not a designer or anything like that), I'll venture to say "no". First, let's take a look at t

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 20:49 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 2010 20:42:34 -0400 > Máirín Duffy wrote: > > > Would a completely new user ask "where are the torrents?" > > That is the first question I always ask when I want to download > a new linux distro for testing. I always get bette

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 08:47 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/01/2010 08:42 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 08:22 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > >> It gets me to wondering how a completely new user would be greeted if > >> they were to see the original "new" Get Fedora web page

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 31 May 2010 20:42:34 -0400 Máirín Duffy wrote: > Would a completely new user ask "where are the torrents?" That is the first question I always ask when I want to download a new linux distro for testing. I always get better download performance with torrents. -- users mailing list users@l

How to recover printers on fresh install

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
I have (well had really) a bunch of printers set up - they all worked wonderfully ... I was running f12. I did a fresh install of f13 .. now does anyone know how to restore all the f12 printers onto f13 (I have backups of everything). Thanks! gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedo

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/01/2010 08:42 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 08:22 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> It gets me to wondering how a completely new user would be greeted if >> they were to see the original "new" Get Fedora web page and were to ask >> "Where are the torrents?". Would they be to

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 08:22 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > It gets me to wondering how a completely new user would be greeted if > they were to see the original "new" Get Fedora web page and were to ask > "Where are the torrents?". Would they be told..."You must Goggle to > find the torrents.", "You s

Re: DVD Installer on USB...?

2010-05-31 Thread Darr
On Monday, 31 May, 2010 @ 17:28 zulu, David García Granda scribed: > Maybe it's confusing, and it looks like link above mixes things up > when talking about labels, but what it worked for me (pasted from > my bash history): > > su -c 'yum -y install livecd-tools' > > su -c 'livecd-iso-to-disk --fo

Not all kernels show up in Grub boot menu

2010-05-31 Thread Steven P. Ulrick
Hello Everyone, I have the following in "/etc/grub.conf": installonly_limit=3 Consequently, when I ran "yum update" earlier, a new kernel was installed, bringing my total to three. Here is my "grub.conf": # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/01/2010 07:55 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > 4 - Belittle the designer, making remarks and suppositions about their > personal traits, and give them some motherly/fatherly advice on how they > must behave according to your preferences and values, and tell them > everything they say is 'BS' when

Re: f13 - gdm fails with no user list

2010-05-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 31 May 2010 20:03:52 -0400 Genes MailLists wrote: > My signal to re-check is 1 month after linus switches back .. till then > ... well .. I use Gnomama ... ;-) Using KDM doesn't force you to use kde, you can still login to a gnome session, but you can also control things like the X serve

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-31 Thread Michael Hennebry
I installed FC11 on another set of partitions and got something that more or less runs. I made the mistake of not customizing the package list, so I'm stuck with gnome. Gnome is loud. Gnome is not KDE. I still can't watch hulu. I need a flash plugin and cannot remember the magic formula. Followin

Re: encrypted disk/partition

2010-05-31 Thread NiftyFedora Mitch
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 11:11 AM, fred smith wrote: > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 01:29:10PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> fred smith wrote: >> > in F13, Anaconda seems to allow encrypted partitions ONLY if you use LVM. >> > If I set up the disk as simple partitions with no lvm/VG/raid, how can >> >

problem booting F13 kernel

2010-05-31 Thread Craig White
I did a yum update because I was struggling with installing from the installation CD's and everything seemed to go well. But when I booted I got an error - something like... kernel panic - VFS Error - can't mount filesystem hd(0,0) which should be /boot The F12 kernel still boots though and the

Re: F13 GDM--WAS: Re: Fedora 11 GDM - unwanted list of all local users and impossible to customize?

2010-05-31 Thread fred smith
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 06:37:43PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 18:44 -0400, fred smith wrote: > > I couldn't figure out how to place the mouse so I could log in. > > [Please don't top-post on this list. See the Guidelines.] > > Couldn't you log in on a console? Ctrl-

Re: f13 - gdm fails with no user list

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/31/2010 07:40 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 2010 18:40:55 -0400 > Genes MailLists wrote: > >> known bug or is there a new way to configure gdm now ? > > My favorite way to configure gdm is: > > cat > /etc/sysconfig/desktop > DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE > ^D > > Then you can edit /etc/k

Re: fedora 13 - upgarding from DVD with no /boot

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
> If I read all of the release info for F11, 12, and 13, you *must* move > from F10 to F11, you cannot go directly to F12 or F13. I tried with > pre-upgrade, and it failed masking the real error (which was that > upgrading to F13 was not possible from F10) and instead returning an > error saying

RE: F13 GDM--WAS: Re: Fedora 11 GDM - unwanted list of all local users and impossible to customize?

2010-05-31 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>NM is configured to bring up wireless when someone logs in, so that >wouldn't work. but by sheer chance I had previously configured the >wired network to come up on boot, so I could log in via ssh to >poke around. By editing your grub cmd which you can do regardless of network config and telling

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 22:51 +, g wrote: > Máirín Duffy wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 16:32 +, g wrote: > >> where was posting of new design for list members to view new design? > > > > On the lists (note the 's' there) where people make posts about websites > > and design in Fedora. If

Re: fedora 13 - upgarding from DVD with no /boot

2010-05-31 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 05/30/2010 07:34 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > I have an existing install (f10) with a root partition and /home partition. > > When I boot the install DVD - there is no screen which offers me a > choice whether i want to upgrade or do a fresh install - it -assumes- I > want to install fresh

Re: f13 - gdm fails with no user list

2010-05-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 31 May 2010 18:40:55 -0400 Genes MailLists wrote: > known bug or is there a new way to configure gdm now ? My favorite way to configure gdm is: cat > /etc/sysconfig/desktop DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE ^D Then you can edit /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject

Re: Cool it Down Please was: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 22:43 +, g wrote: > Máirín Duffy wrote: > > > > Folks, this is pretty simple: > > > > - If you don't care about the website design, don't follow the website > > design list. > > > > - If you do care about the website design, follow the website design > > list. > > eve

Re: Network crash in F13

2010-05-31 Thread Clodoaldo Neto
2010/5/30 Clodoaldo Neto : > Whenever a heavy nfs4 file copy or internet file download is done > connectivity is lost and restarting NetworkManager does not fix it. > Only a reboot fixes it. > > [ cut here ] > WARNING: at net/sched/sch_generic.c:255 dev_watchdog+0xf0/0x192()

Re: Why are the _nightly_ builds build once in a ... week???

2010-05-31 Thread Joshua C.
2010/5/31 Kevin Fenzi : > On Sun, 30 May 2010 22:01:12 +0200 > "Joshua C." wrote: > >> >> I expected this but without seeing the failed logs one can only guess. > > Sorry, perhaps a 'state' file or something would be good to have. I don't know. If the iso is successfully build then this state fil

Re: f13 - gdm fails with no user list

2010-05-31 Thread Frank Elsner
On Mon, 31 May 2010 18:40:55 -0400 Genes MailLists wrote: > > > Fresh install f13 - fully updated. > > As per usual on laptop - i ran > > gconftool-2 --direct --config-source > xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults --type bool --set > /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list true >

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread g
Mike Fedyk wrote: > 2010/5/31 Máirín Duffy : >> On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 11:30 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> I suspect there's a (possibly subconscious) view among many of us that >>> website design means "making the website look pretty" >> I certainly hope you don't mean to imply that is t

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread g
Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 16:32 +, g wrote: >> where was posting of new design for list members to view new design? > > On the lists (note the 's' there) where people make posts about websites > and design in Fedora. If you're not interested in websites and design in > the Fe

Re: Cool it Down Please was: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread g
Máirín Duffy wrote: > Folks, this is pretty simple: > > - If you don't care about the website design, don't follow the website > design list. > > - If you do care about the website design, follow the website design > list. even simpler, if you are a website designer, follow website design list

Re: F13 GDM--WAS: Re: Fedora 11 GDM - unwanted list of all local users and impossible to customize?

2010-05-31 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 18:44 -0400, fred smith wrote: > I couldn't figure out how to place the mouse so I could log in. [Please don't top-post on this list. See the Guidelines.] Couldn't you log in on a console? Ctrl-Alt-Fn. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 18:51 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > I was trying to explain why many people probably don't bother > looking at > > posts about web page design until it's too late. Obviously I'm not > > talking about you or the other designers. > > It wasn't obvious. It's hard to interpret

Re: F13 and adobe flash

2010-05-31 Thread Neal Becker
Gregory P. Ennis wrote: >>> Tom Horsley wrote: >>> On Mon, 31 May 2010 13:41:13 -0500 Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > Adobe flash seems to be installed properly, but the youtube videos > will > not function properly. Any body have a solution for this? I did a cle

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 17:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 17:15 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 11:30 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > I suspect there's a (possibly subconscious) view among many of us that > > > website design means "making th

Re: netinst images: What's the point?

2010-05-31 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 31/05/10 22:52, Richard Shaw wrote: >> Ok, I think I know what the point is, but there is little >> documentation for these specific files and I can't figure out how to >> get them to work correctly. >> >> > Do you mean the netinstall.iso ?

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 22:32 +, g wrote: > what is discussed in this tech support list is what helps keep users using > what code authors are producing and what red hat ends up using. s/Red Hat/Fedora contributors > granted, 'Regarding Get Fedora page' is not what is normally discussed here, >

F13 GDM--WAS: Re: Fedora 11 GDM - unwanted list of all local users and impossible to customize?

2010-05-31 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 04:32:22PM -1000, Chris Stark wrote: > Greetings, > > I found the solution back in Fedora 10. It's not exactly "user friendly"... > > All on one line: > > sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source > xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory -s --type=bool > /apps/gdm

Re: F13 and adobe flash

2010-05-31 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
>> Tom Horsley wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 31 May 2010 13:41:13 -0500 >>> Gregory P. Ennis wrote: >>> Adobe flash seems to be installed properly, but the youtube videos will not function properly. Any body have a solution for this? >>> >>> I did a clean install of f13 and video works fine f

f13 - gdm fails with no user list

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
Fresh install f13 - fully updated. As per usual on laptop - i ran gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults --type bool --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list true So that gdm does not present user list to the world. Rebooted - gdm sc

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread g
first off, understand this, as i said in my post to which frank replied and you replied thru it. to which, i will try to clarify. what you did looks pretty and is very great. i can see where you spent a lot a lot of time in putting it together. _but_, it does not *fit* with rest of page on fedora

RE: netinst images: What's the point?

2010-05-31 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>Ok, I think I know what the point is, but there is little >documentation for these specific files and I can't figure out how to >get them to work correctly. > >The netinst image seems to be the same as the boot.iso but with >installer.img added to it, which is exactly what I'm looking for, >except

Re: yum help 32 bit libs on 64 bit install

2010-05-31 Thread suvayu ali
On 31 May 2010 13:50, Genes MailLists wrote: > >  I have an x86_64 bit F13 installed. Now I need to add 32 bit libraries > to be able to run some 32 bit executables ... > >  I have been trying to do this 1 library at a time and it is tedious > and hard to know if I am getting the right pieces. Run

Re: netinst images: What's the point?

2010-05-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On 31/05/10 22:52, Richard Shaw wrote: > Ok, I think I know what the point is, but there is little > documentation for these specific files and I can't figure out how to > get them to work correctly. > > Do you mean the netinstall.iso ? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 17:15 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 11:30 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I suspect there's a (possibly subconscious) view among many of us that > > website design means "making the website look pretty" > > I certainly hope you don't mean to imply

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Mike Fedyk
2010/5/31 Máirín Duffy : > On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 11:30 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> I suspect there's a (possibly subconscious) view among many of us that >> website design means "making the website look pretty" > > I certainly hope you don't mean to imply that is the position of the > folk

netinst images: What's the point?

2010-05-31 Thread Richard Shaw
Ok, I think I know what the point is, but there is little documentation for these specific files and I can't figure out how to get them to work correctly. The netinst image seems to be the same as the boot.iso but with installer.img added to it, which is exactly what I'm looking for, except for th

Re: F13 and adobe flash

2010-05-31 Thread Neal Becker
Gregory P. Ennis wrote: >> Tom Horsley wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 31 May 2010 13:41:13 -0500 >>> Gregory P. Ennis wrote: >>> Adobe flash seems to be installed properly, but the youtube videos will not function properly. Any body have a solution for this? >>> >>> I did a clean install of f

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 16:32 +, g wrote: > where was posting of new design for list members to view new design? On the lists (note the 's' there) where people make posts about websites and design in Fedora. If you're not interested in websites and design in the Fedora project, then you likely w

Re: F13 and adobe flash

2010-05-31 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Mon, 31 May 2010 15:59:29 -0500 Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > Since I have only one sound card > do you still think I need to add a sound.conf file to /etc/modprobe.d/ > directory. I wouldn't think so, but I've also seen things like usb webcams get listed 1st and confuse things. "aplay -l" will sh

Re: Correct instructions for installing NVidia proprietary driver on Fedora 13?

2010-05-31 Thread Steven P. Ulrick
> On 31.05.2010 21:36, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: > >> Hello Everyone9, > >> If the output of "/sbin/lspci | grep VGA" is: > >> 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 > >> GT] > > (rev > >> a1) > >> > >> are the correct instructions for installing the proprietary NV

Re: Cool it Down Please was: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 16:46 +, g wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: > > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites > > Is the list for the team who do their best for the site. > > and when they do and have a new design, is it posted to this list > for viewing and review? > > ma

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 11:30 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I suspect there's a (possibly subconscious) view among many of us that > website design means "making the website look pretty" I certainly hope you don't mean to imply that is the position of the folks who worked on the page, because

Re: Cool it Down Please was: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 20:33 +, g wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: > > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-August/msg4.html > > > > "Máirín Duffy proposed[13] a few ideas for a new Fedora website design" > > that was for fedora 12, and i do not believe it was acce

Re: F13 and adobe flash

2010-05-31 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
> Tom Horsley wrote: > >> On Mon, 31 May 2010 13:41:13 -0500 >> Gregory P. Ennis wrote: >> >>> Adobe flash seems to be installed properly, but the youtube videos will >>> not function properly. Any body have a solution for this? >> >> I did a clean install of f13 and video works fine for me. Yo

Re: F13 and adobe flash

2010-05-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 31 May 2010 15:59:29 -0500 Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > Since I have only one sound card > do you still think I need to add a sound.conf file to /etc/modprobe.d/ > directory. I wouldn't think so, but I've also seen things like usb webcams get listed 1st and confuse things. "aplay -l" will sh

Re: F13 and adobe flash

2010-05-31 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Mon, 31 May 2010 15:02:30 -0500 Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > That was a good thought, but no cigar yet. It looks like the video is > working now, but there is no sound. Thanks for your response. If you installed the 32bit flash on a 64bit system, you'll need to explicitly do something like "yum

Re: F13 and adobe flash

2010-05-31 Thread Neal Becker
Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > Tom Horsley wrote: > >> On Mon, 31 May 2010 13:41:13 -0500 >> Gregory P. Ennis wrote: >> >>> Adobe flash seems to be installed properly, but the youtube videos will >>> not function properly. Any body have a solution for this? >> >> I did a clean install of f13 and vi

Re: F13 Live CD - No Video

2010-05-31 Thread Bill Davidsen
Dennis wrote: > I can't get Fedora 13 Live CD to show any video when trying to run > after the Grub boot menu selected and run. > > Adding the option to run in Vesa mode does nothing. > > Any ideas on how to get the Live CD to show video with some other options? > You need "nomodeset" as well,

Re: F13 and adobe flash

2010-05-31 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 2010 13:41:13 -0500 > Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > >> Adobe flash seems to be installed properly, but the youtube videos will >> not function properly. Any body have a solution for this? > > I did a clean install of f13 and video works fine for me. You > might w

yum help 32 bit libs on 64 bit install

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
I have an x86_64 bit F13 installed. Now I need to add 32 bit libraries to be able to run some 32 bit executables ... I have been trying to do this 1 library at a time and it is tedious and hard to know if I am getting the right pieces. Run an app - watch errors - find 64bit version - do yum

Re: fedora 13 - upgarding from DVD with no /boot

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/31/2010 04:21 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > I am not sure why that should be. The screen to Install or upgrade > should appear before you are asked to choose storage devices. There is > an error inn the Quick Start Guide which has the screen after you decide > on the storage reconfiguration

Re: Correct instructions for installing NVidia proprietary driver on Fedora 13?

2010-05-31 Thread poncho
On 31.05.2010 21:36, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: >> Hello Everyone9, >> If the output of "/sbin/lspci | grep VGA" is: >> 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT] > (rev >> a1) >> >> are the correct instructions for installing the proprietary NVidia driver > still

Re: ssh into kvm-clients

2010-05-31 Thread brizly vaan van Ulciputz
Am Montag, den 31.05.2010, 10:48 -0600 schrieb Phil Meyer: > I think that the rule set qemu uses is called DNAT by default, so we add: > > -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp -d --dport 22 -j DNAT > --to-destination > > For each VM. > At the end i would like to connect to the kvm-guests by t

Re: fedora 13 - upgarding from DVD with no /boot

2010-05-31 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 08:59 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 05/30/2010 07:34 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > > > I have an existing install (f10) with a root partition and /home partition. > > > > When I boot the install DVD - there is no screen which offers me a > > choice whether i want to

Re: F13 and adobe flash

2010-05-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 31 May 2010 15:02:30 -0500 Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > That was a good thought, but no cigar yet. It looks like the video is > working now, but there is no sound. Thanks for your response. If you installed the 32bit flash on a 64bit system, you'll need to explicitly do something like "yum

Re: ssh into kvm-clients

2010-05-31 Thread Phil Meyer
On 05/31/2010 11:02 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Phil Meyer wrote: > >> On 05/30/2010 11:02 AM, brizly vaan van Ulciputz wrote: >> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> ich wonder why i am not able to ssh-in in this case: >>> >>> i have an kvm-'server' running 4 'guests'. >>> >>> the guests are behin

Re: F13: Delay in screen refresh

2010-05-31 Thread Marco Guazzone
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote: > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: >> On 05/31/2010 09:58 AM, Marco Guazzone wrote: >>> >>> Here below is the information you have asked >>> >>> But before you dig into it I want to say that it seem a problem of the >>>

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