Fedora 13, Nvidia drivers, and RHEL

2010-05-27 Thread fedora-list
Hello List, Why do Nvidia binary drivers work on RHEL 5.5 but not with Fedora 13? The binary driver is practically a drop-in replacement for existing drivers in RHEL. However, in Fedora, there is all sorts of breakage, workarounds, and kmods. Mailing lists (including this one) are littered w

Re: does anyone tested ATI proprietary driver on FC13 ?

2010-05-27 Thread Jatin K
On Thursday 27 May 2010 08:40 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hello Jatin, > > On Thursday 27 May 2010 06:19 AM, Jatin K wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> does anyone successfully installed ATI Proprietary driver >> (ati-driver-installer-10-5-x86.x86_64.run package ) on FC13 ? I've >> installed fc13 on my de

[OT] Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/28/2010 12:14 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > (Note: My disdain for "surveys" has its roots in many hours of > conversations witha friend of mine who owns a market research company > in Taiwan and theUK.) I'm sorry I just had to add these two funny stories that were the results of surveys taken

Re: Surprises on upgrading to F13

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 06:30 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > That did it. I see the "downgrade" installs the F13 version of > rb_libtorrent. > Long story but I am trying to get this fixed now http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2214538 https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3767#previe

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/28/2010 11:26 AM, Tim wrote: > Ed Greshko > >>> I don't believe "Activities" has much meaning either... >>> > Mike Fedyk: > >> I agree. I think the word "edition" is better. Fedora KE (KDE >> Edition) Fedora GE (Gnome Edition) etc... >> > Activities doesn't mean anything

Re: fedora 13 "Invalid or unsupported executable format"

2010-05-27 Thread Andre Robatino
oleksandr korneta gmail.com> writes: > > on 05/27/2010 02:37 PM Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > > On 05/27/2010 02:25 PM, oleksandr korneta wrote: > > >> title Fedora 13 install > >> root (hd0,5) > >> kernel /boot/F13vmlinuz ro > > > > This is a rather "bare" kernel line. Compar

Fedora 13: abrtd dead

2010-05-27 Thread Braden McDaniel
For some reason, abrtd is not running on my system. system-config-services shows it as "dead". /var/log/messages includes these bits that appear to come from abrtd startup: May 26 20:00:42 bolt abrtd: Registered Reporter plugin 'Bugzilla' May 26 20:00:42 bolt abrtd: Registered Act

Re: A better name for spins... (was: Regarding Get Fedora page)

2010-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 May 2010, Mike Fedyk wrote: >On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Tim wrote: >> Ed Greshko >> I don't believe "Activities" has much meaning either... >> >> Mike Fedyk: >>> I agree. I think the word "edition" is better. Fedora KE (KDE >>> Edition) Fedora GE (Gnome Edition) etc...

A better name for spins... (was: Regarding Get Fedora page)

2010-05-27 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Tim wrote: > Ed Greshko >>> I don't believe "Activities" has much meaning either... > > Mike Fedyk: >> I agree.  I think the word "edition" is better.  Fedora KE (KDE >> Edition)  Fedora GE (Gnome Edition) etc... > > Activities doesn't mean anything about discs to

Re: A question about yum

2010-05-27 Thread A. Racca
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 23:37 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 28 May 2010 13:03:27 +0930 > Tim wrote: > > > > Am I doing something wrong by any chance? > > > > Not reading replies, from what I can see... > > It may actually be a duplicate mail. For some reason > I've gotten a few of those i

Re: modprobe.conf?

2010-05-27 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 05/27/2010 11:30 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: > You have to actually save settings in s-c-n to get it to create the file. > Just > start s-c-n, then File/Save (it's not necessary to change existing settings > before saving) and modprobe.conf is immediately created. Yeup, I agree. I see it now.

Re: A question about yum

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 28 May 2010 13:03:27 +0930 Tim wrote: > > Am I doing something wrong by any chance? > > Not reading replies, from what I can see... It may actually be a duplicate mail. For some reason I've gotten a few of those in the last day or two, and I think I saw a mention of duplicates by someo

Re: fedora 13 "Invalid or unsupported executable format"

2010-05-27 Thread oleksandr korneta
on 05/27/2010 03:16 PM Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 27 May 2010 14:37:29 -0400 > Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > >>> title Fedora 13 install >>> root (hd0,5) >>> kernel /boot/F13vmlinuz ro >> >> This is a rather "bare" kernel line. Compare it to the kernel line from >> F12 above. Y

Re: A question about yum

2010-05-27 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 20:21 -0700, George R Goffe wrote: > Am I doing something wrong by any chance? Not reading replies, from what I can see... You asked this question on Wednesday, and got two replies. The answer hasn't changed in the meantime (that, most likely, you're wasting your time tryin

Re: modprobe.conf?

2010-05-27 Thread Andre Robatino
Kevin J. Cummings kjchome.homeip.net> writes: > After rebooting, /etc/modprobe.conf was still gone. > > So I ran system-config-network, its came up found my one network device. > I didn't play around, but exited c-s-n. > > /etc/modprobe.conf was *still* missing. > > So, its either something e

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Tim
Ed Greshko >> I don't believe "Activities" has much meaning either... Mike Fedyk: > I agree. I think the word "edition" is better. Fedora KE (KDE > Edition) Fedora GE (Gnome Edition) etc... Activities doesn't mean anything about discs to me, either. It sounds more like where you'd find out ab

Re: fedora 13 "Invalid or unsupported executable format"

2010-05-27 Thread oleksandr korneta
on 05/27/2010 02:37 PM Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > On 05/27/2010 02:25 PM, oleksandr korneta wrote: >> title Fedora 13 install >> root (hd0,5) >> kernel /boot/F13vmlinuz ro > > This is a rather "bare" kernel line. Compare it to the kernel line from > F12 above. You probably ne

Re: modprobe.conf?

2010-05-27 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 05/27/2010 11:06 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > Got me to thinking. So I looked at my F13 test system, and sure enough, > I had an empty /etc/modprobe.conf file. I can't remember if I ran > system-config-network or not on May 9th at 23:04, but I *do* remember > disabling NetworkManager and re-

A question about yum

2010-05-27 Thread George R Goffe
Howdy, I'm trying to reduce the disk space that yum uses by running "yum clean all". I have seen a listing of files removed by this command but now I'm seeing 0 files. Am I doing something wrong by any chance? Regards and thanks for your time, George... yum clean all Loaded plugins: aliases, a

Re: Fedora 13 spell checking not using an en-us dictionary

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 27 May 2010 23:02:15 -0400 Braden McDaniel wrote: > Is anyone else seeing this? What package should a bug like this get > filed against? Yea, it has been happening in firefox for a while now. See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439598 Clearly it isn't fixed in f13 either.

Re: Replying to digest with threading (was: Re: Regarding Get Fedora page)

2010-05-27 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 16:22 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > if you visit your list configuration page¹ and set the 'Get MIME or > Plain Text Digests' to MIME, the digest you receive should have > individual messages which you can reply to. The in-reply-to and > references headers should be kept int

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 15:40 -0400, Darr wrote: > I think anyone who believes the purpose of torrent clients > is to speed up downloads is exposing their ignorance. > Luckily, ignorance is curable. > > My impression of torrents has always been it's a good way to > share the bandwidth load. Hmm,

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 10:21 -0400, David Liguori wrote: > I agree with the people who were apparently involved with its design > (Thanks, by the way!) that the level of acrimony and personal attacks > is entirely inappropriate. Perhaps so, but that is the response you'll get when you act condescen

Re: modprobe.conf?

2010-05-27 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 05/27/2010 10:54 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: > > I did a local F13 install from the DVD (not enabling any external repos), then > used NetworkManager to set eth0 to connect automatically (right-clicking on > the > NetworkManager applet, Edit Connections..., etc.) At this point, I still had > n

Fedora 13 spell checking not using an en-us dictionary

2010-05-27 Thread Braden McDaniel
I have the system language set to "English (USA)" in system-config-language. However, the spell checker(s) used by Firefox and some Gtk+ apps (Empathy, at least) appear to be using a non-US English dictionary. For example, "color" gets highlighted as misspelled; "colour" does not. Evolution, not

Re: graphics card on fire

2010-05-27 Thread Tim
Gordon Messmer: >> I don't believe that the Free drivers feature any power management >> functions of NVidia hardware, currently. Philip Heron: > That explains it, thanks. That's gotta be a big drain for laptops with > nvidia chips. Well, using the NVidia drivers from RPMfusion, while still on F

Re: modprobe.conf?

2010-05-27 Thread Andre Robatino
Tom Horsley gmail.com> writes: > On Fri, 28 May 2010 01:11:08 + (UTC) > Andre Robatino wrote: > > > Maybe from using system-config-network to change network settings? (Which > > explains why it often shows up just after install.) > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=589593 >

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/28/2010 07:46 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 05/28/2010 05:12 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >>> "Activities" doesn't mean much to me either. >>> >> The design isn't based on a single user, especially not skewed towards >> technical users.  It

Re: modprobe.conf?

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 28 May 2010 01:11:08 + (UTC) Andre Robatino wrote: > Maybe from using system-config-network to change network settings? (Which > explains why it often shows up just after install.) > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=589593 > That could certainly be it. I know if I dele

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 07:09 AM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > We could call it what it really is -- "Live CDs" or "Task Live CDs" or > even "Live Media". > Except that spins can be non-live media as well. There is also the differentiation that spins are generally available as torrent only. Anyway thi

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/28/2010 05:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> So, I think you are saying that non-technical users are more likely to >> go to "Activities" to see what that is all about than go to "Spins".  In >> other words, since they wouldn't know what "sp

Re: modprobe.conf?

2010-05-27 Thread Andre Robatino
Tom Horsley gmail.com> writes: > Anyone know where /etc/modprobe.conf comes from? > > Every f13 installation I have done has created it during the install, > rpm says no package > owns it, and the boot messages are full of blats about how bad it is > to have that > file (the file is empty, so it

Re: Surprises on upgrading to F13

2010-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 06:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/28/2010 06:25 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > No luck. I reinstalled and get the same error. "yum check" gives: > > > > $ sudo yum check > > Loaded plugins: changelog, fastestmirror, merge-conf, presto, protectbase, > > refres

Re: Surprises on upgrading to F13

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 06:25 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > No luck. I reinstalled and get the same error. "yum check" gives: > > $ sudo yum check > Loaded plugins: changelog, fastestmirror, merge-conf, presto, protectbase, > refresh-packagekit > rb_libtorrent-0.14.10-1.fc12.x86_64 has missing requires

Re: Surprises on upgrading to F13

2010-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 06:05 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/28/2010 06:02 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > 4) kdm wouldn't start on first boot, > > because /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/Goddard was missing. Had to > > install it by hand. I'll report this to BZ if someone tells me what to >

Re: modprobe.conf?

2010-05-27 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 05/27/2010 07:36 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > Anyone know where /etc/modprobe.conf comes from? > > Every f13 installation I have done has created it during the install, > rpm says no package > owns it, and the boot messages are full of blats about how bad it is > to have that > file (the file is em

Re: Surprises on upgrading to F13

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 06:02 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > 4) kdm wouldn't start on first boot, > because /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/Goddard was missing. Had to > install it by hand. I'll report this to BZ if someone tells me what to > report against. > KDM would seem most appropriate. It can b

Re: F13: Do not mount CD/DVD when inserted into drive

2010-05-27 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/27/2010 02:50 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Greg Woods wrote: >> On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 21:12 +0200, Frank Elsner wrote: >>> a CD or DVD gets automatically mounted >>> when inserted into the cd/DVD drive. >> >>> Where can I disable this behavier? >> >> System -> Preferences -> File Management

Surprises on upgrading to F13

2010-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
I finally managed to upgrade, after a day or so of frustration with what appears to be a bug in Anaconda (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=596387) and have a few comments to make: 1) Contrary to previous Fedora upgrades, the upgrade proceeds as soon as you hit Next on the Grub config di

Re: F13: Do not mount CD/DVD when inserted into drive

2010-05-27 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/27/2010 12:12 PM, Frank Elsner wrote: > > Hello, > > using F13/GNOME I really don't like that a CD or DVD gets automatically > mounted > when inserted into the cd/DVD drive. This is really annoying if it a disk > I want to overwrite. > > Where can I disable this behavier? I want to mount it

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 05:31 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 28 May 2010 07:23:50 +0800 > Ed Greshko wrote: > > >> "Activity" and a "Spin"? If so, what is the difference? If not, why >> not just have a "Spin" tab? Seems to me it would be more consistent. >> > And beside which, newbie users proba

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 05:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > So, I think you are saying that non-technical users are more likely to > go to "Activities" to see what that is all about than go to "Spins". In > other words, since they wouldn't know what "spin" means...they wouldn't > have any curiosity and click on t

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/28/2010 07:46 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/28/2010 05:12 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> "Activities" doesn't mean much to me either. >> > The design isn't based on a single user, especially not skewed towards > technical users. It is based on a survey that suggests that activities >

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 28 May 2010 07:23:50 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > "Activity" and a "Spin"? If so, what is the difference? If not, why > not just have a "Spin" tab? Seems to me it would be more consistent. And beside which, newbie users probably don't know what a "spin" is. Using that word might turn them

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 05:22 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Am I the only one who completely missed this link? > > I spent at least five minutes flipping through the pages, going back > and forth in circles, looking for the torrent link, before throwing up > my hands in disgust and jumping to Google. Depen

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 05:16 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/28/2010 07:34 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora - click on all download methods >> >> > Oh, FWIW, I just saw that link. It was hidden from view on my desktop. > Yeah. I think there is a

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Rahul Sundaram writes: On 05/28/2010 04:53 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: So, you are suggesting that existing users that are aware of http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ bookmark those pages, yes? What about newcomers to Linux and Fedora? How would they determine they should bookmark these pages?

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/28/2010 07:34 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/28/2010 04:53 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> So, you are suggesting that existing users that are aware of >> http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ >> bookmark those pages, yes? >> >> What about newcomers to Linux and Fedora? How would they determin

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 05:12 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > "Activities" doesn't mean much to me either. The design isn't based on a single user, especially not skewed towards technical users. It is based on a survey that suggests that activities are better leading term than spins for new users. Rahul -- u

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/28/2010 07:34 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Another "curious" thing I find about the Get Fedora page is the >> existence of the "Activities" tab. That tab is the only place where I >> could find the word "activities" or "activity". Everything under that >> area uses the terminology "Spin".

modprobe.conf?

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Horsley
Anyone know where /etc/modprobe.conf comes from? Every f13 installation I have done has created it during the install, rpm says no package owns it, and the boot messages are full of blats about how bad it is to have that file (the file is empty, so it is easy enough to delete, but if it is obsolet

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 04:53 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > So, you are suggesting that existing users that are aware of > http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ > bookmark those pages, yes? > > What about newcomers to Linux and Fedora? How would they determine they > should bookmark these pages? > http://fedo

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/28/2010 06:56 AM, g wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Someone took a conscious decision to remove the torrent link for what >> seemed to them good reasons, >> > which is why i stated that users should bookmark pages and > http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ > http://torrent.fedor

Re: K3b won't accept converted Wav files from MP3

2010-05-27 Thread Jim
On 05/27/2010 05:01 PM, Michael Miles wrote: > On 05/27/2010 12:57 PM, Jim wrote: > >> FC12-x86_64 >> >> Used Sound Converter to convert MP3 audio files to WAV files , but K3b , >> make Audio CD, won't accept converted WAV files for Burning. The audio >> files were orignally wav files before th

Re: Recover stupid mistake

2010-05-27 Thread Larry Brower
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom H wrote: > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 08:07 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 13:32:51 +0100, >>> Mike Martin wrote: Hi when I was trying (and failing) to get a b

Re: F13: Do not mount CD/DVD when inserted into drive

2010-05-27 Thread Frank Elsner
On Thu, 27 May 2010 17:50:35 -0400 Bill Davidsen wrote: > Greg Woods wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 21:12 +0200, Frank Elsner wrote: > >> a CD or DVD gets automatically mounted > >> when inserted into the cd/DVD drive. > > > >> Where can I disable this behavier? > > > > System -> Preferences

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread g
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Far be it from me to prolong this already over-extended thread, i agree, not just because it has caused a 'burp' from list server, but because it has gone from ridiculous to sublime. > but if you read it from the beginning that isn't at all what happened. The > page

Re: F12->F13 DVD Upgrade fails [SOLVED?]

2010-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
[For the full story, see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=596387] I decided to try installing via a boot.iso disk, so I created a bootable pendrive containing boot.iso and fired it up using the "askmethod" incantation (BTW the docmentation on how to do this is deficient; I'll file a sep

Re: AdobeReader_sve providing libstdc++.so.6 - malicious?

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 27 May 2010 22:01:09 +0100 Jonathan Underwood wrote: > It seems a little like Adobe is trying to install Reader via a > backdoor dependency? Nah, they just have the same problem everyone else has who tries to provie a repo that will work on a gazillion different linux distros. They can't

Re: Recover stupid mistake

2010-05-27 Thread Tom H
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 08:07 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 13:32:51 +0100, >>   Mike Martin wrote: >> > Hi when I was trying (and failing) to get a bootable pen-drive, with >> > the F13 live image I accidentally did

Re: F13: Do not mount CD/DVD when inserted into drive

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 27 May 2010 17:50:35 -0400 Bill Davidsen wrote: > > System -> Preferences -> File Management -> Media > > > Does this really work for you? I have mine set that way and when I put in a > CD > it is still read, mounted, the ISO label is read off the disk, and an icon > displayed on the

Re: F13: Do not mount CD/DVD when inserted into drive

2010-05-27 Thread Greg Woods
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 17:50 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > System -> Preferences -> File Management -> Media > > > Does this really work for you? It has in the past. I have only one system where I've done this, and that is my MythTV box (because having DVD's mount themselves interferes with My

Re: AdobeReader_sve providing libstdc++.so.6 - malicious?

2010-05-27 Thread Jonathan Underwood
On 27 May 2010 23:00, Michael Schwendt wrote: > It's a packaging mistake in a package that hasn't seen much testing. > If they include local copies of libs like libstdc++, they ought to > filter the RPM Provides. They also provide several other libs, not > limited to libgcc_s.so.1 > > $ repoquery

Re: I am receiving a "AUTHENTICATION FAILED" error while trying to use empathy IM Clint

2010-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 16:36 -0500, Lloyd Lee wrote: > Not only does your message have no content, it has it in HTML. A perfect storm. Don't send HTML to this list. See the Guidelines. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https:

Re: AdobeReader_sve providing libstdc++.so.6 - malicious?

2010-05-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 27 May 2010 22:01:09 +0100, Jonathan wrote: > Hi, > > I just noticed that if I enable the adobe repository, the AdobeReader > quickly gets pulled in when installing the flash plugin on a 64 bit > machine, since it seems to be providing libstdc++.so.6. This just > seems a little bit suspec

Re: K3b won't accept converted Wav files from MP3

2010-05-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jim wrote: > FC12-x86_64 > > Used Sound Converter to convert MP3 audio files to WAV files , but K3b , > make Audio CD, won't accept converted WAV files for Burning. The audio > files were orignally wav files before they were converted to MP3s. > > This kind of looks like a Microsoft DRM thing t

Re: F13: Do not mount CD/DVD when inserted into drive

2010-05-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
Greg Woods wrote: > On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 21:12 +0200, Frank Elsner wrote: >> a CD or DVD gets automatically mounted >> when inserted into the cd/DVD drive. > >> Where can I disable this behavier? > > System -> Preferences -> File Management -> Media > Does this really work for you? I have mi

regarding get fedora

2010-05-27 Thread terry
On 05/26/2010 05:24 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: >> Complaining after the fact is the only possible response available >> >when something you couldn't imagine happening in your wildest dreams >> >is foisted on you. You can't spend 24 hours a day trying to guess >> >what cliques

I am receiving a "AUTHENTICATION FAILED" error while trying to use empathy IM Clint

2010-05-27 Thread Lloyd Lee
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Re: qemu nic missing after F13 upgrade

2010-05-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > Hi all, > > after my upgrade to F13, everything is working fine except that the > instance of WindowsXP that I run under qemu can no longer see any > network card. It does not appear in the Windows network control panel. > > If I run "ps ax | grep qemu", I see:

AdobeReader_sve providing libstdc++.so.6 - malicious?

2010-05-27 Thread Jonathan Underwood
Hi, I just noticed that if I enable the adobe repository, the AdobeReader quickly gets pulled in when installing the flash plugin on a 64 bit machine, since it seems to be providing libstdc++.so.6. This just seems a little bit suspect to me. Eg. if I run yum -v install nspluginwrapper.x86_64 nsp

Re: Recover stupid mistake

2010-05-27 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 08:07 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 13:32:51 +0100, > Mike Martin wrote: > > Hi when I was trying (and failing) to get a bootable pen-drive, with > > the F13 live image I accidentally did the following > > > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 c

Re: K3b won't accept converted Wav files from MP3

2010-05-27 Thread Michael Miles
On 05/27/2010 12:57 PM, Jim wrote: > FC12-x86_64 > > Used Sound Converter to convert MP3 audio files to WAV files , but K3b , > make Audio CD, won't accept converted WAV files for Burning. The audio > files were orignally wav files before they were converted to MP3s. > > This kind of looks like a M

Regarding getting fedora pages

2010-05-27 Thread terry
On 05/26/2010 05:24 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: > -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of > liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed > Howdershelt (Author) You got to be very careful if you don't know > where you're going,

Re: F13: Do not mount CD/DVD when inserted into drive

2010-05-27 Thread Greg Woods
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 21:12 +0200, Frank Elsner wrote: > a CD or DVD gets automatically mounted > when inserted into the cd/DVD drive. > Where can I disable this behavier? System -> Preferences -> File Management -> Media --Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: graphics card on fire

2010-05-27 Thread Philip Heron
On 27/05/10 16:58, Gordon Messmer wrote: > I don't believe that the Free drivers feature any power management > functions of NVidia hardware, currently. That explains it, thanks. That's gotta be a big drain for laptops with nvidia chips. -Phil -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Replying to digest with threading (was: Re: Regarding Get Fedora page)

2010-05-27 Thread Todd Zullinger
Darr wrote: > Sorry this isn't 'threaded' correctly... I get only the digest and > when replying to messages from the archives the 'from' link > at the top leads only to mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org > rather than mailto:us...@lists.fedoraproject.org?in-reply-/ > To=[message-ID of email]. I

Re: Rocket Fedora 13 media artwork

2010-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 May 2010, Richard Shaw wrote: >On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Thursday 27 May 2010, Valent Turkovic wrote: >>>On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Valent Turkovic >>> >>> wrote: http://fcoremix.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/rockets-artwork-for-fedora-13- >

K3b won't accept converted Wav files from MP3

2010-05-27 Thread Jim
FC12-x86_64 Used Sound Converter to convert MP3 audio files to WAV files , but K3b , make Audio CD, won't accept converted WAV files for Burning. The audio files were orignally wav files before they were converted to MP3s. This kind of looks like a Microsoft DRM thing that K3B is doing. -- use

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Darr
On Wed 26 May 2010 @ 21:35:14 zulu, Máirín Duffy scribed: > I'm sorry, but Fedora Planet is not a vacuum. Nor is Fedora Weekly > News. Are folks on this list really unaware of those forums? Yes, really. The only forums of which I was aware of are those at http://fedoraforum.org Still, I think a

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 17:00 +, g wrote: > > If people are asking these questions here, it shows that there is a > need > > for more/better information on the Fedora site. > > it is not 'the Fedora site', it is a new page written too hastily and > probably by a developer who's ass was worn out

Re: fedora 13 "Invalid or unsupported executable format"

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 27 May 2010 14:37:29 -0400 Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > > title Fedora 13 install > > root (hd0,5) > > kernel /boot/F13vmlinuz ro > > This is a rather "bare" kernel line. Compare it to the kernel line from > F12 above. You probably need to specify at *least* the root=

F13: Do not mount CD/DVD when inserted into drive

2010-05-27 Thread Frank Elsner
Hello, using F13/GNOME I really don't like that a CD or DVD gets automatically mounted when inserted into the cd/DVD drive. This is really annoying if it a disk I want to overwrite. Where can I disable this behavier? I want to mount it by myself. Greetings, Frank Elsner -- users mailing list

Re: fedora 13 "Invalid or unsupported executable format"

2010-05-27 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 05/27/2010 02:25 PM, oleksandr korneta wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to install fedora 13 from DVD iso. > > I've mounted the iso, copied initrd.img and vmlinuz from > Fedora-13-x86_64-DVD.iso/isolinux to my /boot and fixed grub.conf. I put > the Fedora-13-x86_64-DVD.iso into my home directo

Re: Seagate USB disk does not automount

2010-05-27 Thread jack craig
On 05/27/2010 11:03 AM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: > On 05/27/2010 10:39 AM, jack craig wrote: > >> On 05/27/2010 09:48 AM, Tom Diehl wrote: >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have a new seagate external USB disk that does not mount when plugged in >>> to my F-12 machine. I can mount it by hand and acc

fedora 13 "Invalid or unsupported executable format"

2010-05-27 Thread oleksandr korneta
Hello, I'm trying to install fedora 13 from DVD iso. I've mounted the iso, copied initrd.img and vmlinuz from Fedora-13-x86_64-DVD.iso/isolinux to my /boot and fixed grub.conf. I put the Fedora-13-x86_64-DVD.iso into my home directory, and put "images" (copied from the same .iso) directory rig

Re: Seagate USB disk does not automount

2010-05-27 Thread Paolo Galtieri
On 05/27/2010 10:39 AM, jack craig wrote: > > On 05/27/2010 09:48 AM, Tom Diehl wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have a new seagate external USB disk that does not mount when plugged in >> to my F-12 machine. I can mount it by hand and access it normally. >> >> Does anyone have instructions for adding u

Re: Seagate USB disk does not automount

2010-05-27 Thread jack craig
On 05/27/2010 09:48 AM, Tom Diehl wrote: > Hi, > > I have a new seagate external USB disk that does not mount when plugged in > to my F-12 machine. I can mount it by hand and access it normally. > > Does anyone have instructions for adding udev rules or whatever it takes > to get this to automoun

Re: Seagate USB disk does not automount

2010-05-27 Thread Paolo Galtieri
On 05/27/2010 09:48 AM, Tom Diehl wrote: > Hi, > > I have a new seagate external USB disk that does not mount when plugged in > to my F-12 machine. I can mount it by hand and access it normally. > > Does anyone have instructions for adding udev rules or whatever it takes > to get this to automount

Re: graphics card on fire

2010-05-27 Thread Michael Miles
On 05/27/2010 08:58 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 05/27/2010 07:51 AM, Philip Heron wrote: > >> Of course this wouldn't have happened if the fan hadn't >> failed, but still makes me wonder why there was such a different between >> Windows and Fedora? >> > I don't believe that the Free dr

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread g
Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, g said: >> i still contend that all the *BS* bitching about no links is fault of >> those who would rather have something to bitch about than make a simple >> bookmark in their browser so they would know where to look for what they >> want and not have to use

Seagate USB disk does not automount

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Diehl
Hi, I have a new seagate external USB disk that does not mount when plugged in to my F-12 machine. I can mount it by hand and access it normally. Does anyone have instructions for adding udev rules or whatever it takes to get this to automount when plugged in? dmesg shows the following: usb 1-3:

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, g said: > i still contend that all the *BS* bitching about no links is fault of those > who would rather have something to bitch about than make a simple bookmark > in their browser so they would know where to look for what they want and > not have to use google. The questions a

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread g
Gene Heskett wrote: > Which is generally being drowned out by the fussing about the poorly > composed pages at the get fedora site. lol. i agree on that. it has even gotten to a point that it is screwing up the list handler. i now have 6 duped emails, 5 from you, 1 from rahul. :) i still con

Re: Rocket Fedora 13 media artwork

2010-05-27 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 27 May 2010, Valent Turkovic wrote: >>On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Valent Turkovic >> >> wrote: >>> http://fcoremix.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/rockets-artwork-for-fedora-13-me >>>dia/ >>> >>> I remixed some Fedora graphics to c

Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-27 Thread Mercury Rising
Cent OS 5.4 loaded with error messages. One was BIOS 1999 and I have a 1997 BIOS. I get a command line and help brings up a list. Is there a manual for Cent OS? On 5/20/10, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Mercury Rising < > mercuryrisin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> hi,

Re: graphics card on fire

2010-05-27 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/27/2010 07:51 AM, Philip Heron wrote: > Of course this wouldn't have happened if the fan hadn't > failed, but still makes me wonder why there was such a different between > Windows and Fedora? I don't believe that the Free drivers feature any power management functions of NVidia hardware, c

Re: does anyone tested ATI proprietary driver on FC13 ?

2010-05-27 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hello Jatin, On Thursday 27 May 2010 06:19 AM, Jatin K wrote: > Dear all, > > does anyone successfully installed ATI Proprietary driver > (ati-driver-installer-10-5-x86.x86_64.run package ) on FC13 ? I've > installed fc13 on my dell laptop with ATI Radeon HD 5450 Series 1GB > memory display card .

Re: Rocket Fedora 13 media artwork

2010-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 May 2010, Valent Turkovic wrote: >On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Valent Turkovic > > wrote: >> http://fcoremix.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/rockets-artwork-for-fedora-13-me >>dia/ >> >> I remixed some Fedora graphics to create new CD/DVD labels. >> >> Hope you enjoy them, >> Cheers! >

graphics card on fire

2010-05-27 Thread Philip Heron
OK, not quite on fire but produced a nasty burning smell. Turns out the fan in my card had failed a while back and I never noticed. It was clogged up with dust and wouldn't budge. This is my work machine and it runs Windows, and other than my screen saver crashing there was no ill effect. I bla

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