Re: Importing an mbox into Imap

2010-05-24 Thread Nataraj
Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 14:38 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> Just import the mbox file into any IMAP client (Thunderbird, >> Evolution, Claws, whatever ...) >> > > I've tried this with fairly large spool files, on Evolution (painfully > slow, and needs doing in chunks - s

Re: Importing an mbox into Imap

2010-05-24 Thread Gabriel Ramirez
On 05/24/2010 07:40 PM, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 14:38 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Just import the mbox file into any IMAP client (Thunderbird, >> Evolution, Claws, whatever ...) > > I've tried this with fairly large spool files, on Evolution (painfully > slow, and needs doing in

Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-24 Thread Mercury Rising
On 5/20/10, Rares Aioanei wrote: > On Thursday, May 20, 2010 09:20:31 pm Mercury Rising wrote: >> hi, >> >> I got so tired of windows problems - viruses, screen - computer > freezes, I >> just stuck in a Linux for non-geeks CD and loaded it. It wiped my > hard >> drive as expected, but I kept get

Re: Available memory

2010-05-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 09:04 +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:20 AM, Henry Wyatt wrote: > > In system>about this computer I had 98.1 gib available memory. Now I have > > 95.1 oh were oh were did 3gib go? > > Did not install any new software, did update preupgrade. > >

Re: Available memory

2010-05-24 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:20 AM, Henry Wyatt wrote: > In system>about this computer I had 98.1 gib available memory.  Now I have > 95.1 oh were oh were did 3gib go? > Did not install any new software, did update preupgrade. I assume you mean "Available disk space". It is the amount of disk space

Re: Imap/s certificate issue?

2010-05-24 Thread Philip Prindeville
On 5/24/10 12:53 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > Philip Prindeville wrote: > > >> I'm seeing the following on my mail server: >> >> May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: accepted connection >> May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: imapd:Loading hard-coded DH parameters >> May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: S

Available memory

2010-05-24 Thread Henry Wyatt
In system>about this computer I had 98.1 gib available memory. Now I have 95.1 oh were oh were did 3gib go? Did not install any new software, did update preupgrade. -- Henry E. Wyatt, Jr. 135 Main St. Apt. 604 Adm. Halsey Senior Village Poughkeepsie, N.Y. 12601-6703 (845)337-3421 -- users mailin

Re: Adjust remaining battery power warning threshold

2010-05-24 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 19:04 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Whether or not my battery is charging depends on whether it's getting > AC power. If it's on AC power, it charges. When the battery is full it > stops charging, and from that point it runs on AC power, without > taking the juice from the

Re: Adjust remaining battery power warning threshold

2010-05-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Matthew Saltzman writes: Not always. If you allow the battery to drain just a percent or two and plug it back in, it won't charge. If you drain it a bit more, it will. The Thinkpad battery manager from Lenovo takes that a step further, I think this battery manager thingy is some custom job f

Re: Importing an mbox into Imap

2010-05-24 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 14:38 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Just import the mbox file into any IMAP client (Thunderbird, > Evolution, Claws, whatever ...) I've tried this with fairly large spool files, on Evolution (painfully slow, and needs doing in chunks - select a month's mail, drag and dr

Re: Adjust remaining battery power warning threshold

2010-05-24 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 19:04 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Matthew Saltzman writes: > > > On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 20:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> On 05/23/2010 08:38 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >> > Right now, Gnome shows an alert bubble when I have somewhere between > >> > 15 and 20 min

Re: ABRT is not reporting my bugs

2010-05-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/25/2010 04:12 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Ok. Oh, and I did poke around the plugin -- it is indeed sending the > oopses to kerneloops. It's a bit misleading, since the fields I get to > fill in, before submitting the report, are Bugzilla fields, leading me > to believe that's where the oop

Re: ABRT is not reporting my bugs

2010-05-24 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 18:42 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I did poke around the plugin -- it is indeed sending the oopses > to kerneloops. It's a bit misleading, since the fields I get to fill > in, before submitting the report, are Bugzilla fields, leading me to > believe that's where the oops

Re: Adjust remaining battery power warning threshold

2010-05-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Matthew Saltzman writes: On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 20:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/23/2010 08:38 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Right now, Gnome shows an alert bubble when I have somewhere between > 15 and 20 minutes remaining on battery power (varies). When there's a > couple of minutes lef

Re: OT: Cell phone connection to server

2010-05-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
arag...@dcsnow.com wrote: > It has been suggested to me that we should setup a cell phone in a way > that would allow us remote access to our Linux boxes in case of an > emergency where the server was down (using a remote service board (ILO)). > > I've searched Google and found plenty of informatio

Re: Adjust remaining battery power warning threshold

2010-05-24 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 20:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/23/2010 08:38 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Right now, Gnome shows an alert bubble when I have somewhere between > > 15 and 20 minutes remaining on battery power (varies). When there's a > > couple of minutes left, an automatic shut

Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 24 May 2010 16:11:27 -0400 terry wrote: > I've looked through the systems > administation but cannot figure > how to put myself in the file where I can use say sudo yum something > without having to use su , passwd each time I need to be root > thank you. http://fedorasolved.org/post

Re: ABRT is not reporting my bugs

2010-05-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Rahul Sundaram writes: On 05/25/2010 03:43 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Rahul Sundaram writes: On 05/24/2010 08:15 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Several times I had ABRT claim that my kernel oops report was succesfully uploaded, yet I cannot find the bug reports in Bugzilla. I have my Bugzilla lo

Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread kalinix
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 17:35 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: > In reality, the reason for requiring a sudo password challenge is that > you don't want someone who walks up to your computer to have root privs. > At the very least, they have to know your password to use sudo. > > > -- > -- Steve Now,

Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread Steven Stern
On 05/24/2010 05:17 PM, kalinix wrote: > On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 16:07 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: >> Evil foolishness! One should always require a password for sudo. It's >> like an "Are You Sure?" prompt. > > Yeah, and why not put script that ask you hundreds of times, "Are you > sure?" And then,

Re: OT: Cell phone connection to server

2010-05-24 Thread Alan Cox
> The reason we are considering this is because the servers are going to be > at remote client sites where we have no control over the network and > placing a DSL or other hard lines are not desirable. You can get SMS controlled power switches. So the 'large attention button' can be activated from

Re: OT: Cell phone connection to server

2010-05-24 Thread aragonx
> > arag...@dcsnow.com writes: >> It has been suggested to me that we should setup a cell phone in a way >> that would allow us remote access to our Linux boxes in case of an >> emergency where the server was down (using a remote service board >> (ILO)). > > There are smartphone clients for ssh. I

Re: ABRT is not reporting my bugs

2010-05-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/25/2010 03:43 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Rahul Sundaram writes: > >> On 05/24/2010 08:15 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >>> Several times I had ABRT claim that my kernel oops report was >>> succesfully uploaded, yet I cannot find the bug reports in Bugzilla. I >>> have my Bugzilla login ID and

Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread kalinix
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 16:07 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: > Evil foolishness! One should always require a password for sudo. It's > like an "Are You Sure?" prompt. Yeah, and why not put script that ask you hundreds of times, "Are you sure?" And then, on one hundred an one time let you do exactly

Re: ABRT is not reporting my bugs

2010-05-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Rahul Sundaram writes: On 05/24/2010 08:15 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Several times I had ABRT claim that my kernel oops report was succesfully uploaded, yet I cannot find the bug reports in Bugzilla. I have my Bugzilla login ID and password set in the bugzilla ABRT plugin. I don't think my oop

Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > On 05/24/2010 03:48 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: >> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM, terry wrote: >>> I've looked  through the systems > administation but cannot figure how >>> to put myself in the file where I can use  say sudo yum something >>>

Re: Can't Burn DVD

2010-05-24 Thread Mikkel
On 05/24/2010 03:08 PM, Jim wrote: > FC12-X86_64 > > A Blank DVD is in /dev/scd0 and I can Burn DVD's from K3B. > > Trying to run this command from dvdauthor and also ran it from command > line and get the error below. > > # dvdrecord -dao speed=2 dev=0,0,0 "/tmp/Pacific/dvd.iso" > > WARNING:

Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 24 May 2010 22:07, Steven Stern wrote: > On 05/24/2010 03:48 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: >> Towards the bottom of the file there is a line that is >> commented out that allows all users of the "wheel" group to access all >> commands without a password. > > Evil foolishness!  One should always requi

Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread Steven Stern
On 05/24/2010 03:48 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM, terry wrote: >> I've looked through the systems > administation but cannot figure how >> to put myself in the file where I can use say sudo yum something >> without having to use su , passwd each time I need to be ro

Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread Peter Larsen
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 16:11 -0400, terry wrote: > I've looked through the systems > administation but cannot figure how > to put myself in the file where I can use say sudo yum something > without having to use su , passwd each time I need to be root > thank you. alt-f2 su -c visudo Sudo is

Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM, terry wrote: > I've looked  through the systems > administation but cannot figure how > to put myself in the file where I can use  say sudo yum something > without having to use su ,  passwd each time I need to be root > thank you. I assume that you would like it

Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 24/05/10 22:11, terry wrote: > I've looked through the systems> administation but cannot figure how > to put myself in the file where I can use say sudo yum something > without having to use su , passwd each time I need to be root > thank you. Look into /etc/sudoers. That's where you enable

Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread David GarcĂ­a Granda
Hi Terry, > I've looked  through the systems > administation but cannot figure how > to put myself in the file where I can use  say sudo yum something > without having to use su ,  passwd each time I need to be root You need to edit /etc/sudoers file. Check man sudoers for more information. HTH,

[OT] strip attachments from archived emails

2010-05-24 Thread Craig White
I have to assemble emails for printing and there seems to be little reason to print the binary attachment and I would rather just strip them out. The emails are on my own imap server (cyrus) and I have copies of them but is there some reasonable way to remove the attachments? Craig -- This mes

Re: OT: Cell phone connection to server

2010-05-24 Thread Alan Cox
> It was said that years ago, you could connect a modem to a cell phone and > that it would answer the call just like on a land line. If I could find > something like that, we would be in business. If your device can support incoming data calls then mgetty+sendfax is probably what you are looking

Re: OT: Cell phone connection to server

2010-05-24 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
arag...@dcsnow.com writes: > It has been suggested to me that we should setup a cell phone in a way > that would allow us remote access to our Linux boxes in case of an > emergency where the server was down (using a remote service board (ILO)). There are smartphone clients for ssh. I've got one

Re: OT: Cell phone connection to server

2010-05-24 Thread Bill Davidsen
arag...@dcsnow.com wrote: > Hello all, > > It has been suggested to me that we should setup a cell phone in a way > that would allow us remote access to our Linux boxes in case of an > emergency where the server was down (using a remote service board (ILO)). > > I've searched Google and found ple

using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread terry
I've looked through the systems > administation but cannot figure how to put myself in the file where I can use say sudo yum something without having to use su , passwd each time I need to be root thank you. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscrip

Can't Burn DVD

2010-05-24 Thread Jim
FC12-X86_64 A Blank DVD is in /dev/scd0 and I can Burn DVD's from K3B. Trying to run this command from dvdauthor and also ran it from command line and get the error below. # dvdrecord -dao speed=2 dev=0,0,0 "/tmp/Pacific/dvd.iso" WARNING: the deprecated pseudo SCSI syntax found as device speci

OT: Cell phone connection to server

2010-05-24 Thread aragonx
Hello all, It has been suggested to me that we should setup a cell phone in a way that would allow us remote access to our Linux boxes in case of an emergency where the server was down (using a remote service board (ILO)). I've searched Google and found plenty of information on how to make an out

Re: Importing an mbox into Imap

2010-05-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 11:59 -0600, Philip Prindeville wrote: > I have an archived rmail-style "mbox" that I want to move into my Imap > message store. > > Anyone have a Perl script that will read an mbox, split it into > individual messages, and then redeliver those messages via an Imap > conne

Re: Printing photo-quality on HP deskjet F4180

2010-05-24 Thread Colin Paul Adams
> "Tim" == Tim Waugh writes: Tim> See if you still get the same problem -- if so, please report a Tim> bug in Bugzilla. Still the same problem. -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachmen

Re: Imap/s certificate issue?

2010-05-24 Thread Rex Dieter
Philip Prindeville wrote: > I'm seeing the following on my mail server: > > May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: accepted connection > May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: imapd:Loading hard-coded DH parameters > May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: SSL_accept() incomplete -> wait > May 24 11:55:30 ma

Re: Importing an mbox into Imap

2010-05-24 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Philip Prindeville wrote: >> I have an archived rmail-style "mbox" that I want to move into my Imap >> message store. >> >> Anyone have a Perl script that will read an mbox, split it into >> individual messages, and then redeliver those messages via an Imap >> connection?

Re: Importing an mbox into Imap

2010-05-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 24 May 2010 11:59:48 -0600 Philip Prindeville wrote: > Anyone have a Perl script that will read an mbox, split it into > individual messages, and then redeliver those messages via an Imap > connection? I don't know about perl, but I clearly remember importing giant mbox files into my im

Imap/s certificate issue?

2010-05-24 Thread Philip Prindeville
I'm seeing the following on my mail server: May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: accepted connection May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: imapd:Loading hard-coded DH parameters May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: SSL_accept() incomplete -> wait May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: sslv3 alert certificat

Re: Importing an mbox into Imap

2010-05-24 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Philip Prindeville wrote: > I have an archived rmail-style "mbox" that I want to move into my Imap > message store. > > Anyone have a Perl script that will read an mbox, split it into > individual messages, and then redeliver those messages via an Imap > connection? > > Thanks, > > -Philip In dove

Importing an mbox into Imap

2010-05-24 Thread Philip Prindeville
I have an archived rmail-style "mbox" that I want to move into my Imap message store. Anyone have a Perl script that will read an mbox, split it into individual messages, and then redeliver those messages via an Imap connection? Thanks, -Philip -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: SELinux error booting backup f12

2010-05-24 Thread jackson byers
Dan Walsh wrote: > You should not need either. > selinux=0 > Disables SELinux. The boot system leaves a flag around telling the > system that SELinux has been disabled. The next time you enable it > (booting without the selinux=0 flag) the system forces a relable. Which > means every file/dir/

Re: Printing photo-quality on HP deskjet F4180

2010-05-24 Thread Colin Paul Adams
> "Marco" == M Fioretti writes: Marco> On Mon, May 24, 2010 13:40:43 PM +0100, Colin Paul Adams (co...@colina.demon.co.uk) wrote: >> I don't know if this is a software issue, or if the printer is >> just broken. (I'm using Fedora 12) Marco> Colin, Marco> this may have n

Re: Printing photo-quality on HP deskjet F4180

2010-05-24 Thread M. Fioretti
On Mon, May 24, 2010 13:40:43 PM +0100, Colin Paul Adams (co...@colina.demon.co.uk) wrote: > I don't know if this is a software issue, or if the printer is just > broken. (I'm using Fedora 12) Colin, this may have nothing to do with your problem, but... does what you report depend on the photo

Re: Fedora Hard Disk Encryption and FIPS 140-2 Compliance

2010-05-24 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 10:42 -0400, Edmon Begoli wrote: > Does anyone know if Fedora's HD encryption is, or could it be, compliant with > US NIST requirement for hard disk encryption included in NIST FIPS 140-2? > > http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/STM/cmvp/#05 > > Thanks. FIPS compliance testing is a

Fedora Hard Disk Encryption and FIPS 140-2 Compliance

2010-05-24 Thread Edmon Begoli
Does anyone know if Fedora's HD encryption is, or could it be, compliant with US NIST requirement for hard disk encryption included in NIST FIPS 140-2? http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/STM/cmvp/#05 Thanks. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription optio

Re: SELinux blocks access to device files when booting 2.6.32.* kernels (fc12)

2010-05-24 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/23/2010 02:32 PM, Karl-Michael Schneider wrote: > On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 06:05 AM, Tim wrote: > >> On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 17:19 -0700, Karl-Michael Schneider wrote: >> >>> # kernel-2.6.32.12-115.fc12 in single user mode >>> $ ls -lZ /dev >>> cr

Re: SELinux error booting backup f12

2010-05-24 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/22/2010 08:12 PM, jackson byers wrote: > Daniel J Walsh wrote > >> You can boot with selinux=0 or enforcing=0. enforcing=0 means that >> SELinux will block nothing, but maintain the labeling. > > 1) selinux=0 worked; booted up into my backup

ntpd query failure

2010-05-24 Thread Kelvin Ku
We run 'ntpdate -q' once daily to check the ntpd sync status of the hosts in our network. On one host, this check is failing sporadically today: $ for i in `seq 1 10` ; do ntpdate -q 192.168.129.110 ; sleep 1 ; done server 192.168.129.110, stratum 4, offset -0.001034, delay 0.02693 24 May 10:11:16

Re: Printing photo-quality on HP deskjet F4180

2010-05-24 Thread Tim Waugh
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 14:35 +0100, Colin Paul Adams wrote: > I had that installed before, but then my wife wanted to scan documents, > and I was advised on the list to use the HP download. Scanning wouldn't > work before, and it did after i did that download. OK. Install libsane-hpaio as well to

Re: Question about this user list

2010-05-24 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 03:26:31PM +0930, Tim wrote: > On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 14:18 -0500, David A. Paredes Rios wrote: > > fedora 13 release is in 4 days so the questions are going to be valid > > here :D > > Quite probably, and certainly in a few days time. ;-) > > > im must asking because i wr

Re: Printing photo-quality on HP deskjet F4180

2010-05-24 Thread Colin Paul Adams
> "Tim" == Tim Waugh writes: Tim> On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 13:40 +0100, Colin Paul Adams wrote: >> I have hplib installed (by downloading from the hp site and >> following the instructions - many weeks ago). Tim> Step 1: uninstall this. Tim> If you want HPLIP installed, ins

Re: Printing photo-quality on HP deskjet F4180

2010-05-24 Thread Tim Waugh
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 13:40 +0100, Colin Paul Adams wrote: > I have hplib installed (by downloading from the hp site and following > the instructions - many weeks ago). Step 1: uninstall this. If you want HPLIP installed, install the Fedora package: System > Administration > Add/Remove Software

Printing photo-quality on HP deskjet F4180

2010-05-24 Thread Colin Paul Adams
I don't know if this is a software issue, or if the printer is just broken. (I'm using Fedora 12) Basically, I can print fine using plain paper/normal quality. But If I try to print photo quailty/photo paper, the image is overscaled (about twice the size), displaced so that the centre prints aroun

Re: Fedora Community Gaming - Why aren't you there?

2010-05-24 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 07:16:21 -0400, Dennis Mattingly wrote: > My gaming has been slowing down, since my job is terrible right now. > > I usually play Quake Wars or ZSNES on my machine. > But I would gladly try other games if it promotes Linux. > > The biggest headache for joining is that I

Re: ABRT is not reporting my bugs

2010-05-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/24/2010 08:15 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Several times I had ABRT claim that my kernel oops report was > succesfully uploaded, yet I cannot find the bug reports in Bugzilla. I > have my Bugzilla login ID and password set in the bugzilla ABRT > plugin. I don't think my oops reports are going

Re: Fedora Community Gaming - Why aren't you there?

2010-05-24 Thread Dennis Mattingly
My gaming has been slowing down, since my job is terrible right now. I usually play Quake Wars or ZSNES on my machine. But I would gladly try other games if it promotes Linux. The biggest headache for joining is that I don't read these messages / lists very much. Perhaps a better idea would be to

Fwd: voice with empathy and gtalk on F12

2010-05-24 Thread Adel ESSAFI
-- Forwarded message -- From: Adel ESSAFI Date: 2010/5/24 Subject: Re: voice with empathy and gtalk on F12 To: Community support for Fedora users Well, I solved this, there was some packages missing just do su -c "yum -y install gstreamer-plugins-base gstreamer-plugins-good

Re: voice with empathy and gtalk on F12

2010-05-24 Thread Adel ESSAFI
Well, I solved this, there was some packages missing just do su -c "yum -y install gstreamer-plugins-base gstreamer-plugins-good gstreamer-plugins-bad" and things goes right regards Adel 2010/5/21 Adel ESSAFI > hi list > > I have tried empathy with F10 sucessufully. > > However, in F12

Re: F12 shutdown "oddity"

2010-05-24 Thread Dick Roark
Yup, those are the symptoms. Your's and my computer are probably working just fine. Maybe we'll get an update sooner or later. Meanwhile, no harm done (so far). Thanks for the reply, Dick On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Gary Waters wrote: > On 05/22/2010 09:30 PM, Dick Roark wrote: > > I hav