Re: Maximum Amount of Topic/Queues Within Apache Artemis

2025-03-19 Thread Nathan Clayton
It's being lead by StreamNative, which provides a hosted Pulsar service. They haven't said it, but my gut's telling me that the end goal is to consolidate their serverless/hosted solution into a single cluster instead of needing to shard into multiple clusters. - Nathan On Sun, Mar 16, 2025,

Re: What HA Replication Policy Is For Active-Active Topology

2025-03-19 Thread Justin Bertram
> We cannot have any message loss in an active-active symmetric cluster, and that is why the HA requirement. In that case you would have 2 pairs of HA brokers all in the same cluster so that when a primary fails the backup will activate and join the same cluster as the other primary. > Does the J

Re: What HA Replication Policy Is For Active-Active Topology

2025-03-19 Thread William Crowell
Justin, We are trying to do both (cluster with HA). We cannot have any message loss in an active-active symmetric cluster, and that is why the HA requirement. So, I believe we would need at least 2 groups with a live and backup broker each for a total of 4 brokers. Does the JMeter Performanc

Re: What HA Replication Policy Is For Active-Active Topology

2025-03-19 Thread Justin Bertram
> ...we have found that using one broker will not satisfy our throughput requirements even with various tuning. Performance tuning can be something of a dark art. I'm curious about your use-case, specific testing methodology, performance goals, observed performance, and tuning strategy. > We have

Re: What HA Replication Policy Is For Active-Active Topology

2025-03-19 Thread William Crowell
Justin, With our current infrastructure, we have found that using one broker will not satisfy our throughput requirements even with various tuning. We have been using the ActiveMQ Classic Performance Module plugin to test against Artemis: https://activemq.apache.org/components/classic/document

AW: What HA Replication Policy Is For Active-Active Topology

2025-03-19 Thread Schmidt, Mihael
If an active/active deployment is a the only requirement perhaps the dual mirror feature of Artemis is a possible deployment scenario?! You can find it in the docs at chapter 7, look for "Mirroring". HTH Mihael Mihael Schmidt Software Engineering Bauformat Küchen GmbH & Co. KG Kattwinkel 1 |

Re: What HA Replication Policy Is For Active-Active Topology

2025-03-19 Thread Justin Bertram
I lost the plot somewhere along the way I think. What specifically is your use-case? Why are you wanting multiple clusters? Justin On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 8:29 AM William Crowell wrote: > Justin, > > So, you would definitely need one cluster with 2 brokers and another > cluster with at least o

Re: What HA Replication Policy Is For Active-Active Topology

2025-03-19 Thread William Crowell
Justin, So, you would definitely need one cluster with 2 brokers and another cluster with at least one preferably two brokers as well? Regards, William Crowell From: Justin Bertram Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2025 at 9:25 AM To: users@activemq.apache.org Subject: Re: What HA Replication Polic

Re: What HA Replication Policy Is For Active-Active Topology

2025-03-19 Thread Justin Bertram
> The HA piece only cares whether a cluster is defined and not necessarily if it is a health cluster. To be clear, HA pairs use clustering mainly for discovery. In the case of shared storage this discovery allows the primary broker to inform Core clients (including Core JMS clients) about the clus

Re: What HA Replication Policy Is For Active-Active Topology

2025-03-19 Thread William Crowell
Vilius, Have one cluster defined as a single broker and another cluster defined with a single broker as well just to meet the HA requirement. Regards, William Crowell From: Vilius Šumskas Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2025 at 9:11 AM To: users@activemq.apache.org Subject: RE: What HA Replicatio

RE: What HA Replication Policy Is For Active-Active Topology

2025-03-19 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by 1 node cluster. -- Vilius -Original Message- From: William Crowell Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2025 3:02 PM To: users@activemq.apache.org Subject: Re: What HA Replication Policy Is For Active-Active Topology Vilius, Thank you for your rep

Re: What HA Replication Policy Is For Active-Active Topology

2025-03-19 Thread William Crowell
Vilius, Thank you for your reply. Can we do 2 broker clusters of 1 node each with HA on top? The HA piece only cares whether a cluster is defined and not necessarily if it is a health cluster. Regards, William Crowell From: Vilius Šumskas Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2025 at 8:23 AM To: users@