I think I need clarify my statements before.
> Craig, I assure you that I always hope Java success and I do think it
> popular for web app. The only thing I think I said Java was not doing
> well as PHP is that PHP becomes more popular in public sites.
>>That is definitely what you claimed. I cl
blic sites support very large user bases.
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On 7/26/05, Daniel Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can anyone recommend any good resources? Sure a google search provides tons
> of information... but which is any good?
Mastering JavaServer Faces is an excellent book for Struts developers
to read. The authors try to put JSF in context with bot
Xu:
One of the reasons why you see a lot of PHP apps is that there are always a lot
more small apps
than large scale ones. I can not imagin you program a large scale site using
PHP. If you are an OO
guy, I could hardly imagin you even would like PHP(mixing all server side code
with html code).
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On 7/26/05, John Henry Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Craig said: Tell me again how you come to the conclusion that Java is
> not a
> > popular platform for web app deployments? (To say nothing of the fact
> > that Microsoft might dispute the "PHP is king" rubric as well :-).
>
> Craig, I assur
these numbers.
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From: "Craig McClanahan"
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Subject: Re: Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:46:14 -0700
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> On 7/26/05, John Henry Xu wrote:
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On 7/26/05, John Henry Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Craig said:You can't properly measure a technology's overall success on
> a single
> > criteria like this.
>
> Craig, you are absolutely right. Maybe there is a better way to measure
> technologies based on broader criteria. The problem was
enry Xu
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Craig McClanahan"
> To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
> Subject: Re: Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:41:14 -0700
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> >
> > On 7/26/05, John Hen
many hidden sites were Java but we
don't know.
John Henry Xu
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From: "Craig McClanahan"
To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
Subject: Re: Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:41:14 -0700
>
>
On 7/26/05, John Henry Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But now almost all public sites are dominated by PHP and others...
Whatever the actual truth of this assertion, don't forget that the
number of public Internet based webapps is not all that large compared
to the total number of webapps runnin
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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 22:35:53 +0100
>
> It is interesting to see that the two sites on your footer are
written using
> JSP.
>
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> > Von: John Henry Xu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag,
> > 26. Juli 2005 21:42
> > An: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Betreff: RE: Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!
>
> Actually I promised myself not to response to your
It is interesting to see that the two sites on your footer are written using
JSP.
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It is interesting to
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>
> PHP / (origional) JSP are the same stuff really. Scripted web page.
Main
> difference is php not OO (well, the api isnt), and php doesnt
require a
From: netsql
To: user@struts.apache.org
Subject: Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 06:27:35 -0500
> There is DAO, etc for PHP, take a look at architecture of TikiWiki.
> And my faviorte lesson: Home page of Spring is in Plone.
>
> Here is a go
e but I don't want to know the answer.
> This is a Struts list and I accept JSF is vaguely relevant but I am not
> going to utter another sentence about PHP.
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 26 July 2005 09:46
> To: Struts Use
Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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PHP / (origional) JSP are the same stuff really. Scripted web page. Main
difference is php not OO (well, the api isnt), and php doesnt require any
4:17
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>
> JSF has been there for a while. We have to see how it does in
> real applications.
>
> EJB has been there for many years, but its complexity of
> configuratio
JSF has been there for a while. We have to see how it does in real
applications.
EJB has been there for many years, but its complexity of configuration (at
least before mature tools were developed) kept many J2EE projects expensive and
over budgets (bad ROI examples).
Thus we have so many fra
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