Michael Jouravlev wrote:
> I believe, that similar behaviour (different presentation depending on
> action/page state) is possible in JSF with subviews and "rendered"
> attribute. At least that what David Geary advised me to do, when I was
> porting my wizard engine to JSF.
>
Yes indeed that is e
Greg Reddin wrote:
> I don't have any experience with the render kit, so I may have missed
> the point of it. Keep in mind that my comments are based on very
> limited experience with JSF so I hope if I've missed something someone
> else will correct me. But, when going through some tutorials
On 10/5/05, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> This is what I don't do. I prefer to have less actions, usually
> stateful. I pass parameter to it or submit a form, and it selects a
> proper view. But I guess you are right: I am able to google static
> html pages for my live samples,
On 10/5/05, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On 10/5/05, Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But the basic mechanisms regarding the whole page flow system are very
> similar
> > in jsf and struts
>
> Please correct me if I am wrong, but in JSF I always ask for a page.
> In
On 10/4/05, Leon Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We have a search where the user can select whether he gets the result
> as a gallery (many pics, few content), data summary ( less pix, more
> content) and list (no pics, only content). They are produced by
> different jsp pages (using tiles f
Michael Jouravlev wrote:
> On 10/4/05, Leon Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Btw, struts is perfectly crawlable, since you have a different url for
>>each page. This will not let you index a concrete page, but the whole
>>site will be at list indexed. In opposite, a JSF site will return
>>
Greg Reddin wrote:
> In my limited experience with JSF it does not seem to contain
> templating capabilities. So in Struts classic I would use Tiles for
> creating site templates as well as reusable views (or component-based
> views). But with JSF Tiles still proves useful for templating and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/04/2005 06:19:29 PM:
>
> Does "some work" include asking for volunteers? :-)
absolutely... and I hope you included it in your status report..:)
That is about as far as
> I've gone related to Shale-Mailreader.
>
> However, one possible starting point would be the
On 10/4/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Which makes me ask: Craig and Frank *seemed* to indicate that some work
> had been done with the Shale mail reader. If so, is it possible to get any
> of that half-done code so someone (ok, I) could look at it and see what
> needs to be
On 10/4/05, Leon Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 10/4/05, Greg Reddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Oct 4, 2005, at 3:55 AM, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
> > >
> > > That's another interesting question, if JSF is all-component, what do
> > > I need tiles for? I mean Tiles was cool to defin
On 10/4/05, Leon Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Btw, struts is perfectly crawlable, since you have a different url for
> each page. This will not let you index a concrete page, but the whole
> site will be at list indexed. In opposite, a JSF site will return
> different content to the "same
27;Struts Shale'
http://struts.apache.org/shale) and Facelets (https://facelets.dev.java.net)
were created to fill that need.
Regards,
David
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"Frank W. Zammetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 10/04/2005 10:51:00 AM:
> I didn't get far enough to have any actual code... I'm a JSF/Shale
newbie,
> but I offered to do the mailreader since it's not a complicated app and
I
> thought it would make a good learning experience for me, as well as
Greg Reddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 10/04/2005 10:45:14 AM:
>
> Please don't let that stop you from sharing. In the world of open
> source we all learn from each other. I'm sure the "experts" will be
> happy to point out worst practices and the rest of us will be happy
> to learn :-)
>
> ok, asking the other way around, does someone have anything that could
> serve an example application for Shale and he or she is ready to
> share?
>
The rolodex usecase example has a resemblance of what you might find in a CRUD
web application. Its focus is on the Clay plugin for creating reus
On Tue, October 4, 2005 10:36 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Which makes me ask: Craig and Frank *seemed* to indicate that some work
> had been done with the Shale mail reader. If so, is it possible to get any
> of that half-done code so someone (ok, I) could look at it and see what
> needs to be do
On Oct 4, 2005, at 9:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ok, asking the other way around, does someone have anything that
could
serve an example application for Shale and he or she is ready to
share?
I think the problem is that even though people probably do have
example
apps working they m
On Oct 4, 2005, at 9:34 AM, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
In my limited experience with JSF it does not seem to contain
templating capabilities. So in Struts classic I would use Tiles for
creating site templates as well as reusable views (or component-based
views). But with JSF Tiles still proves use
Leon Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 10/04/2005
10:24:58 AM:
> ok, asking the other way around, does someone have anything that could
> serve an example application for Shale and he or she is ready to
> share?
I think the problem is that even though people probably do have example
apps w
On 10/4/05, Greg Reddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Oct 4, 2005, at 3:55 AM, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
> >
> > That's another interesting question, if JSF is all-component, what do
> > I need tiles for? I mean Tiles was cool to define a common renderer
> > for an abstract view-component which was t
ok, asking the other way around, does someone have anything that could
serve an example application for Shale and he or she is ready to
share?
thanx
leon
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On Tue, October 4, 2005 3:51 am, Craig McClanahan said:
> For the record, that (shale-mailreader) is definitely on the agenda ... we
> had a volunteer, but so far that hasn't produced anything more than I've
> been able to do myself.
Yep, I have to apologize for that... I've allowed myself to get
On Oct 4, 2005, at 3:55 AM, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
That's another interesting question, if JSF is all-component, what do
I need tiles for? I mean Tiles was cool to define a common renderer
for an abstract view-component which was then implicitely defined with
struts-classic. Now JSF supports comp
Thanx, Graig, but you opened more new questions as you answered :-)
On 10/4/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> > > I would think that for most web applications, you wouldn't want a user
> to
> > > attempt to jump into the middle of a dynamic web application without a
> > > con
On 10/3/05, Leon Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanx David, Gary.
>
> On 10/4/05, Gary VanMatre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The use-case application's purpose is to demo the requirements of a
> specific
> > feature of Shale. We have not built an example using all the Shale
> > featu
Thanx David, Gary.
On 10/4/05, Gary VanMatre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The use-case application's purpose is to demo the requirements of a specific
> feature of Shale. We have not built an example using all the Shale
> features.
>
> Shale is a framework built on top of JSF. It provides value
>
> after long time of scepticism I decided to try out Shale. I downloaded
> the shale nightly and installed it on my tomcat 5.0.28. Somehow it was
> not very satisfying. The struts-shale-usecases runs (or I suppose it
> to run) with a lot of warnings, but dont give the example, an
> applicati
Leon,
The point you made about Shale performing form submissions is more of a JSF
(JavaServer Faces) issue to help it retain state information to properly
generate, validate, and so forth the JSF pages. I don't believe Shale tries
to make JSF navigation any different. I have seen some discussion
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