Re: [OT] Struts + AJAX Trumps JSF

2005-10-14 Thread Hubert Rabago
On 10/14/05, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some nice scripting without Ajax, just Javascript and CSS: > http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2005/10/05/form/form4.htm > I wish Struts Validator could be that cool :-) It CAN be. I spent some time last night figuring ou

Re: [OT] Struts + AJAX Trumps JSF

2005-10-14 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Frank W. Zammetti wrote: People who try to do entire sites in Flash are, IMO, misusing it. Try http://goowy.com for Flash or Java http://struts.roomity.com (takes you to this mail list in RiA) .V - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [OT] Struts + AJAX Trumps JSF

2005-10-14 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Fri, October 14, 2005 8:11 am, Martin Gainty said: > Frank/Michael > Personally whenever I see a Flash site I always elect 'html' simply > because > I dont have the time to wait for stream to load to > my browser client.. As do I, and I'm almost never not using a big fat pipe :) But, this is a

Re: [OT] Struts + AJAX Trumps JSF

2005-10-14 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Fri, October 14, 2005 2:44 am, Michael Jouravlev said: > On 10/13/05, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It's not going to kill Flash because, when used properly, Flash is >> fantastic and different from anything else out there. Just as a silly >> example: how am I going to a Stron

Re: [OT] Struts + AJAX Trumps JSF

2005-10-14 Thread DGraham
Still rockin' the 14.4? ;) "Martin Gainty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/14/2005 08:11 AM Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List" To <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Michael Jouravlev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc "Struts Users Mailing List"

Re: [OT] Struts + AJAX Trumps JSF

2005-10-14 Thread Martin Gainty
ll succeed (viz a viz Ajax..) Just my 2 cents, Martin- - Original Message - From: "Michael Jouravlev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Struts + AJAX Trumps JS

Re: [OT] Struts + AJAX Trumps JSF

2005-10-14 Thread Werner Punz
Frank W. Zammetti wrote: > So no, I don't think Ajax is the great savior or anything, nor is it the > future of web development in and of itself. How I think it will be > remembered though is in showing that RIAs are viable and that the real > paradigm shift isn't Ajax itself, but is the underlyi

Re: [OT] Struts + AJAX Trumps JSF

2005-10-14 Thread Werner Punz
Kito D. Mann wrote: >>>At this point, with the clear promise of AJAX, I cannot see >> >>any reason >> >>>to give up Struts and go to JSF. If I was starting a new web >>>application today, I would use Struts and AJAX. >> >>Not that I going to jump JSF anytime soon, but: >>http://www.icesoft.co

Re: [OT] Struts + AJAX Trumps JSF

2005-10-13 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 10/13/05, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's not going to kill Flash because, when used properly, Flash is > fantastic and different from anything else out there. Just as a silly > example: how am I going to a StrongBad eMail in Ajax? A lot of people > hate Flash, but I think

Re: [OT] Struts + AJAX Trumps JSF

2005-10-13 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Speaking as someone who has been a huge Ajax proponent, as evidenced by my article on it, my Struts HTML taglib extension, my AjaxTags component in Java Web Parts and my reviewing of a new Ajax book to be released shortly, I ironically have to say that Ajax isn't something that is going to make

RE: [OT] Struts + AJAX Trumps JSF

2005-10-13 Thread Kito D. Mann
> > At this point, with the clear promise of AJAX, I cannot see > any reason > > to give up Struts and go to JSF. If I was starting a new web > > application today, I would use Struts and AJAX. > > Not that I going to jump JSF anytime soon, but: > http://www.icesoft.com/products/icefaces.htm

Re: [OT] Struts + AJAX Trumps JSF

2005-10-13 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 10/13/05, Mike Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think AJAX will evolve to the point where it will become a serious Flash > competitor IMHO Flash sucks: http://jroller.com/page/javadujour?entry=laszlo > At this point, with the clear promise of AJAX, I cannot see any reason to > give up St

Re: [OT] Struts + AJAX Trumps JSF

2005-10-13 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Mike Duffy wrote: I think AJAX will evolve to the point where it will become a serious Flash competitor Or JDNC, like roomity.com, that now in beta.roomity.com has video streaming and on main site foaf and tagging ;-) .V ---