Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

one >>> another. >>> >> >>> >> > On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:03 AM, btiernay wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > I think this is a really great idea for really opening up the >>> >> > discussions >>> >> >

Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

other. >> >> >> >> > On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:03 AM, btiernay wrote: >> >> > >> >> > I think this is a really great idea for really opening up the >> >> > discussions >> >> > that happen here. Also, it would be nic

Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

> On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:03 AM, btiernay wrote: > >> > > >> > I think this is a really great idea for really opening up the > >> > discussions > >> > that happen here. Also, it would be nice to know why there doesn't > seem > >> >

Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Sean Owen wrote: > I think a Spark site would have a lot less traffic. One annoyance is > that people can't figure out when to post on SO vs Data Science vs > Cross Validated. Another is that a lot of the discussions we see on the Spark users list would be closed

Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

I agree with Sean that a Spark-specific Stack Exchange likely won't help and almost certainly won't make it out of Area 51. The idea certainly sounds nice from our perspective as Spark users, but it doesn't mesh with the structure of Stack Exchange or the criteria for creating new sites. On Thu Ja

Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

FWIW I am a moderator for datascience.stackexchange.com, and even that hasn't really achieved the critical mass that SE sites are supposed to: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/55053/data-science I think a Spark site would have a lot less traffic. One annoyance is that people can't figure

Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

t vehicle to promote the awesomeness of Spark. -- View this message in context: http://apache-spark-user-list.1001560.n3.nabble.com/Discourse-A-proposed-alternative-to-the-Spark-User-list-tp20851p21321.html Sent from the Apache Spark User List mailing list a

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ity can apply different guidelines for the new site. >>>> >>>> There is a FAQ about creating new sites: >>>> http://area51.stackexchange.com/faq >>>> It says: "Stack Exchange sites are free to create and free to use. All >>>> we

Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

; sites, >>> like Tor, Drupal, Ubuntu... >>> >>> Later, though, the FAQ also says: >>> "If Y already exists, it already has a tag for X, and nobody is >>> complaining" >>> (then you should not create a new site). But we could complain :

Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

a and public beta, so that could be a drawback. Like btiernay, I must say: there might be something about Apache projects and mailing lists that I do not know, so excuse me if that is the case... -- View this message in context:

Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

y. The other thing, already mentioned, is that the community could >> create >> Spark specific guidelines. There are also 'meta' sites for asking >> questions >> like this one, etc. >> >> There is a process for starting a site - it's not instantane

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t be something about Apache projects and mailing lists that I do not know, so excuse me if that is the case... -- View this message in context: http://apache-spark-user-list.1001560.n3.nabble.com/Discourse-A-proposed-alternative-to-the-Spar

RE: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

2 Jan 2015 02:55:33 + Subject: Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list To: petar.zece...@gmail.com; user@spark.apache.org I think a few things need to be laid out clearly: This mailing list is the “official” user discussion platform. That is, it is sponsored and managed b

Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

> There is a process for starting a site - it's not instantaneous. New site > needs to go through private beta and public beta, so that could be a > drawback. > > > Like btiernay, I must say: there might be something about Apache projects > and mailing lists that I do not

Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

e beta and public beta, so that could be a drawback. Like btiernay, I must say: there might be something about Apache projects and mailing lists that I do not know, so excuse me if that is the case... -- View this message in context: http://apache-spark-user-list.1001560.n3.nabble.com/Disc

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nce of Apache > projects. > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: http://apache-spark-user-list. > 1001560.n3.nabble.com/Discourse-A-proposed-alt

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ns we can consider: >> > >> >1. Work with the ASF as well as the Discourse team to allow Discourse >> > to >> >act as an overlay on top of this mailing list >> > >> > <https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-as-a-front- >> end-fo

Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

s-is if they > want. > >(This is the toughest but perhaps most attractive option.) > > 2. Create a new Discourse forum for Spark that is not bound to this > > user > >list. This is relatively easy but will effectively

Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

> user >list. This is relatively easy but will effectively fork the community > on >this list. (We cannot shut down this mailing in favor of one managed by >Discourse.) > 3. Don’t use Discourse. Just encourage people on this list to post >instead on Stack Ove

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ourage people on this list to post >instead on Stack Overflow whenever possible. >4. Something else. > > What does everyone think? > > Nick > ​ > > -- > View this message in context: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the > Spark User list > <http://apache-spark-user-list.1001560.n3.nabble.com/Discourse-A-proposed-alternative-to-the-Spark-User-list-tp20851.html> > Sent from the Apache Spark User List mailing list archive > <http://apache-spark-user-list.1001560.n3.nabble.com/> at Nabble.com. >

Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

Thanks for providing that additional background, Josh. It looks like many people on that Google Groups thread wanted a better interface than is offered by the Apache mailing lists. Some even raised the idea of a bi-directional bridge

Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

We have a mirror of the user and developer mailing lists on Nabble, but unfortunately this has led to significant usability issues because users may attempt to post messages through Nabble which silently fail to get posted to the actual Apache list and thus are never read by most subscribers: http:

Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

Nick, uh, I would have expected a rather heated discussion, but the opposite seems to be the case ;-) Independent of my personal preferences w.r.t. usability, habits etc., I think it is not good for a software/tool/framework if questions and discussions are spread over too many places. I guess ev

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is mailing in favor of one managed by >Discourse.) >3. Don’t use Discourse. Just encourage people on this list to post >instead on Stack Overflow whenever possible. >4. Something else. > > What does everyone think? > > Nick > ​ > > -- > View t

Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list

ge people on this list to post instead on Stack Overflow whenever possible. 4. Something else. What does everyone think? Nick ​ -- View this message in context: http://apache-spark-user-list.1001560.n3.nabble.com/Discourse-A-proposed-alternative-to-the-Spark-User-list-tp20851.html Sent f