Re: basic tutorial

2012-12-22 Thread emeka okafor
About 4 or 5 years ago, when j2ee and spring were all the rage, I thought I was a ninja because I would spend hours editing spring/beans/hibernate configurations by hand, and even xslt...until I found a job where I did learn WebObjects/EOF and it changed my brain forever. It s a shame that the

Re: basic tutorial

2012-12-22 Thread Mike Kienenberger
There's nothing wrong with editing the models by hand. I sometimes make small changes by hand myself. But the best way to learn the xml format right now is going to be to set up an initial model using the modeler tool. There's no user-friendly documentation on the format of the model right now

Re: basic tutorial

2012-12-22 Thread Michael Jaruska
and a lot of other software too :-) On 22.12.2012 20:35, Pascal Robert wrote: So you should avoid using Alfresco :-) In fact I would argue that any system that requires you to edit xml by hand is fundamentally broken (I"m looking at you JPA). XML is meant for machines not humans, and if you de

Re: basic tutorial

2012-12-22 Thread Michael Jaruska
hmm, i was in hope not to make spam but instead of (short) point to some notes about using cayenne without modeler but just hand-editing xml files there was rubbish about xml and editing them by hand. i'm editing xml by hand for more than 10 years without problems and there's more efective forma

Re: basic tutorial

2012-12-22 Thread Pascal Robert
So you should avoid using Alfresco :-) > In fact I would argue that any system that requires you to edit xml by hand > is fundamentally broken (I"m looking at you JPA). XML is meant for machines > not humans, and if you develop an xml dialect to represent something you've > only started your work.

Re: basic tutorial

2012-12-22 Thread Tony Giaccone
In fact I would argue that any system that requires you to edit xml by hand is fundamentally broken (I"m looking at you JPA). XML is meant for machines not humans, and if you develop an xml dialect to represent something you've only started your work. Never make your users edit XML. Never. On Fri

basic tutorial

2012-12-22 Thread Michael Jaruska
hi folks, i'm searching for tutorial for using cayene without caynene modeler, i need something like "download this jar, write this bean, edit this xml in this way and this is how you can access objects from database". i'm not fun of grafical/ide tools (writing this hope this won't lead into spa