So you should avoid using Alfresco :-)

> In fact I would argue that any system that requires you to edit xml by hand
> is fundamentally broken (I"m looking at you JPA). XML is meant for machines
> not humans, and if you develop an xml dialect to represent something you've
> only started your work. Never make your users edit XML. Never.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:21 PM, John Huss <johnth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> This message should be on the user mailing list, not the dev list, so
>> please reply there.
>> 
>> Cayenne is not primarily intended to be used that way, so there is no
>> tutorial.  It is possible to do, but there's not really a good reason to
>> for a beginner.  Using the modeler prevents from having to know the whole
>> XML api - instead the screens may it fairly easily to figure out what you
>> need to do.
>> 
>> Anyway if you want to hand-code the XML you can create a mapping using the
>> modeler (or find an example) and then see how the XML looks, then follow
>> the same pattern.  There is also a DTD somewhere I believe.  But you should
>> really use the modeler, at least until you get a hang of the basics.  Even
>> if you decide to skip the modeler later, start with it first.
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Michael Jaruska
>> <michael.jaru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> hi folks,
>>> 
>>> i'm searching for tutorial for using cayene without caynene modeler, i
>> need
>>> something like "download this jar, write this bean, edit this xml in this
>>> way
>>> and this is how you can access objects from database".
>>> 
>>> i'm not fun of grafical/ide tools (writing this hope this won't lead into
>>> spam), just like hand-make work.
>>> 
>>> is there tutorial with this aspect keeping in mind?
>>> 
>>> please be patient to my beginer question.
>>> 
>>> michael
>>> 
>> 

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