Re: Libraries To Contribute

2017-03-23 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
The code was relatively easy. What I was more interested in was either building or finding a central repo for a library of routines. Trevor built a stack that has a bunch of routines in it, but in the age of git, I'd like to have something that we put in there for everyone to point to. I've put

Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary

2017-03-23 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Oh, yes, and one more thing: We need to bring back user additions and owner addendums/notes. On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Mike Kerner wrote: > > > I want this to be my official dictionary. > > With my free Devolution t

Re: Libraries To Contribute

2017-03-23 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Anyway, Richard, to answer your other question, the problem is that revCopyFolder copies not just the contents of the source folder but the source folder as well, and I didn't figure out a way to copy just the contents, so I wrote something to do it. On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 9:00 PM, Mike Kerner w

Fwd: Libraries To Contribute

2017-03-23 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
It's pretty easy, actually. You can check out my repo, if you like, because that's where I'd put the routines if I do it. I've already got some community routines in there, but I haven't gone nuts with it, yet. https://github.com/macMikey The biggest thing to discuss is what routines should be g

Re: Libraries To Contribute

2017-03-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
n't it? On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I went looking, today, for a routine to re

Re: Libraries To Contribute

2017-03-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
a good idea. I line to figure out the > platform, and then a shell command would get it done, now wouldn't it? > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Mike Ke

Re: Libraries To Contribute

2017-03-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Did I say "depo"? REPO ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

Re: Libraries To Contribute

2017-03-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
YO, HAWKINS! Are you going to write the rest of the routine and make it cross-platform, already? You're holding up a library contribution! On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > Did I say "depo"? REPO > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second

Re: Libraries To Contribute

2017-03-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
thanks, I was hoping it would be complete so I could just copy/paste it... On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 6:03 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wr

Re: Release 9.0.0-rc1

2017-03-31 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
rc1? The latest one on the website is DP6 On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 9:48 PM, hh via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I can't sleep. The new LC 9.0.0-rc1 features make me crazy. > Close to infinity. Converting all my stacks since two hours. > >

Private Repo Services

2017-04-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Github is nice, but all your repos have to be public in order to be free. I went looking for private ones (because there are things you just can't do without a remote repo, and I don't want all my code in the open) So far I've found two: 1) Github - $7/month 2) Google - free, but it's more complic

Re: Private Repo Services

2017-04-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Crap. I didn't think of BitBucket. On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 2017-04-03 13:44, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> Github is nice, but all your repos have to be public in order to be

Re: Private Repo Services

2017-04-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
And I didn't read far enough right on gitlab, either. When I was looking at it, I misread the left side, which is for me hosting, not for them hosting. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubs

APNS Debugging

2017-04-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Does anyone have a tool/technique to help figure out what's going on with APNS? I have it working for some apps, but for my latest one, nothing. The feedback from the server looks ok, but cert fiddling hasn't fixed it, device id double-checks hasn't fixed it, blah, blah, blah. -- On the first da

Re: APNS Debugging

2017-04-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
wow, that took long enough to diagnose. It turns out that there was an invalid provisioning profile for the app, BUT I could still compile/link/distribute using the profile, and the app still ran. Once I got down to the bottom of the page to check the profiles (after trying everything else), I go

Re: Error when create iOS standalone, any workaround ?

2017-04-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I've been running into this frequently. This happens in a variety of combinations. Sometimes just running it again fixes it. Sometimes it does not. The thing that most frequently resolves it is if I go into standalone builder settings and change the target ios version, even just reselecting the

Push Notification Repo

2017-04-08 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I took John Craig's APNsAssistant and put it up on github. I also broke it apart into behavior SOS's, and made some other modifications to it. Now I'd like to make it more complete, so if you have any push code, whether for Android or LC Server, etc., I want it. -- On the first day, God created

Re: mergEXT

2017-04-12 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
you don't download it. It's built in. On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > " an Indy or Business license, will I get mergEXT automatically? Yes!" > > As I have an Indy licence I would be grateful if I could find out > wher

Re: mergEXT

2017-04-12 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
on mac, its in Contents->Tools->Ext On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > you don't download it. It's built in. > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> " an Indy or Business license, will I get mergE

Re: mergEXT

2017-04-12 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Have a look in the dictionary. I don't know if Monte still has the demo stacks available, but perhaps that would also help. On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Roger Eller via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I have never used it, but this is in the LC forum: > > try > merg

APNS response twice?

2017-04-12 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Here's one I don't remember: Send APNS App gets pushNotificationReceived...twice, one right on top of the other. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little

Re: Initializing the segmented control

2017-04-17 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Go into the API, then in the picker on the top left, pick "Segmented Control". There is one message and a bunch of properties. Also, if you get stuck, some time, all the widgets have their source available, and since they're written with LCB, it's pretty easy to read (the documentation for each is

Re: Initializing the segmented control

2017-04-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
e been trying to avoid getting into the widget modification > part of livecode. I just figured there must be an easy way to initialize > the widget’s selection. I did look at the dictionary API entry and it > doesn’t tell me anything about how I would code an initialization to a > particular

Re: Initializing the segmented control

2017-04-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
The browser widget is too limited for my use, so no, I don't bother with it. By "well-written", I meant written in such a way as being easy to understand, not well-written like feature-complete, free of any bugs, etc. I still use tmc2 for all my interface work... __

Re: numberFormat affecting array keys???

2017-04-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Here's an interesting case I ran into: long time - hours can be single digits, e.g. "8", but minutes and seconds are always two digits, e.g. "00", and, of course, setting the numberFormat does not affect anything. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-liveco

Re: Don't amputate numberFormat (was: affecting array keys???)

2017-04-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I tend to agree. There is nothing about "format" that is intuitive to the non-initiated. On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 8:51 PM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Mark Waddingham: > > I think this is perhaps more evidence that 'numberFormat' > > should probably

Re: Cognitive load

2017-04-22 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
So I assume that smaller is better On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Since cognitive load came up in the other thread about numberFormat, some > of you may find this paper very interesting: > > > Using Cognitive Load Theory

Re: Don't ampute numberformat

2017-04-23 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Well, that would be a nice thing to have in a field widget, but I run into formatting issues with databases, as well, especially when sorting. On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Roland Huettmann via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I get around with numberformt, format() and

Re: Subject: Re: Don't amputate numberformat

2017-04-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I've talked about doing some microfinancing projects in LC, but so far I haven't heard a lot of interest. I'm all for it. On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Roland Huettmann via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Mike Kerner: "Well, that would be a nice thing to have in a field

Re: Subject: Re: Don't amputate numberformat

2017-04-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
This is why I want to try to get a more centralized repo of all the cool stuff that everyone's done in LC, especially if it's available in-app, sort of like a widget store, if we ever get one of those... On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Dave Kilroy via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>

Re: Don't amputate numberFormat (was: affecting array keys???)

2017-04-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
That's too bad. I was hoping that I could trade deprecating numberFormat for giving equal rights to the last item in a list. Say it with me now: EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL ITEMS! EVEN THE LAST ONES! On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> w

Re: OS X Firewall triggering on launch

2017-04-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'm also getting this with every launch, even though dp6 is in the firewall settings. It's much less annoying, now that LC isn't crashing constantly with the new version of mergDeploy, so I don't quit and relaunch 9 very often, now. On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 10:49 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecod

Re: Don't amputate numberFormat (was: affecting array keys???)

2017-04-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
10:32 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 2017-04-24 16:10, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> That's too bad. I was hoping that I could trade deprecating >> numberFormat for giving equal rights to the last item

Re: Don't amputate numberFormat (was: affecting array keys???)

2017-04-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I get that it would break existing code that relies on the behavior. I'm just offering to make that trade as the self-appointed spokesperson for equal rights for all items. On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Well as I said, th

Re: Subject: Re: Don't amputate numberformat

2017-04-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
It's only daunting because of the overhead of creating the widget. I think that the overhead of creating LC and maintaining LC is well worth it compared to the cognitive load that I face dealing with other tools. Laptops also rejoice that they do not have to endure having their screens ripped from

Re: OS X Firewall triggering on launch

2017-04-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
et it build a new one, but I haven't tried that yet. > > > On 4/24/17 9:17 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> I'm also getting this with every launch, even though dp6 is in the >> firewall >> settings. It's much less annoying, now that LC isn

Re: Stupid Q No 999: mergeBLE

2017-04-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Does anybody do pairing in software? I have only ever had pairing happen at the hardware level - in the settings or control panels On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Roger Eller via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Have you simply opened the sample mergBLE.livecode stack (bur

Re: Subject: Re: Don't amputate numberformat

2017-04-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Think of the laptops. Do it for them. On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Mike Kerner wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > >> But with fields, a formatting enhancement need not be a Widget

Re: Make numberFormat even better

2017-04-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Would it make sense to say that if a container is strongly typed (i.e. declared as type x) it is type x and if it is not then it is not? Why can't you have it both ways? On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 6:48 AM, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi > > I don't know wh

Re: Font embedding for iOS in LC9

2017-04-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Try with 8 to make sure fonts work. There is a font bug in 9 on devices with retina screens. On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Keith Martin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 25 Apr 2017, at 15:36, Andrew Bell via use-livecode wrote: > > Digging around through my stack

Re: Make numberFormat even better

2017-04-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Way to steal my post and make it eloquent, Bill :-P On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 12:57 PM, prothero--- via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > My point was to set variable types when they need to be set explicitly. > Those who don't want to set a type can just use forget about it. O

Re: Primes and primality checking

2017-04-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Long Math is a longstanding ACL contest theme, and I think we've talked about it here, before, too, because every language runs into precision issues - sooner or later you're going to run out of digits in the register. So in LC Put the value into a container Write the math algorithms that does it

Re: Please block sims emails

2017-04-26 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Since this is the nth time, can we have probation? On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:03 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 4/25/17 10:36 PM, Jerry Jensen via use-livecode wrote: > >> Somebody is using sims email to post phishing/spam/malware - I don’t >> know

Re: Font embedding for iOS in LC9

2017-04-26 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
we really, really, really need a central repo On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Andrew Bell via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Try with 8 to make sure fonts work. There is a font bug in 9 on devices >> with retina screens. >> > > I should have searched the bug list first

Re: Make numberFormat even better

2017-04-26 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Whenever we decide we're done with this, someone needs to send me the code and I'll throw it up on github, since I'd like to have a central repo for helpful code, especially since with git and levure we have a pretty easy way of adding those modules to our projects. On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 11:14 A

Re: Make numberFormat even better AND Cognitive Load

2017-04-26 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I think 3 is something we should scratch off the list, since we have more important fish for you to fry. On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 2017-04-26 16:00, prothero--- via use-livecode wrote: > >> Ok, I'll shut up abou

Re: Swiping between cards - metaphor end-of-the-road?

2017-04-26 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
So you'd like a swipe event instead of using nav buttons. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-l

Re: Swiping between cards - metaphor end-of-the-road?

2017-04-26 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
so bug 9320? On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Mike Kerner wrote: > > > So you'd like a swipe event instead of using nav buttons. > > Button where appropriate, swiping where appropriate. > > > iOS: >Use touch gestures to

Re: Make numberFormat even better AND Cognitive Load

2017-04-27 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
On the topic of keeping LC stupid-simple, here's of one of those ways that LC makes ugly math fun: # put the short date into theDate convert theDate to dateItems put 0 into item 3 of theDate convert theDate to short date put theDate # On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > I th

Re: [OT] Today's Google Doodle/Theme

2017-04-28 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
because cheese On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Scott Rossi via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Then don’t look in the Balkans. > > Scott Rossi > Creative Director > Tactile Media, UX/UI Design > > > > > On Apr 28, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < >

Re: Scanning for inclusions

2017-04-28 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I thought once you ran it once, when you switch to manual, the auto-selected ones stay. On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 12:27 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > Is there a way to run the "scan for inclusions" required and get a list. > > Waiting for the inclusion scan while buildin

Re: Is there any reason not to create a self-installing app?

2017-05-01 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Have a look at Trevor's Levure framework. It's an easy to make #1 happen. Also, it's really easy to just make hack-a-stacks with it, too. I was pretty skeptical when I started using it a couple months ago, but once I started using it, I stopped building anything the old way. On Sun, Apr 30, 2017

Re: Creating apps directly on mobile devices

2017-05-01 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
One of the LC guys was messing around with this a couple years ago, and posted about it on the blog. I have been able to do lots of useful things, including editing scripts, on mobile. I would be willing to bet that you can have all sorts of fun if you set your mind to it on a 13" tablet... On S

Re: Scroll Bars in scrolling groups

2017-05-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I have run into an issue with groups on windows where the parent group rect wasn't quite right, and all sorts of fun ensued. but no scroll involved. On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Thanks Bob, > > I didn't set any geometry p

phx_dropboxLib and v1 deprecation

2017-05-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Has anyone come up with a migration guide to get to v2? I know that we have a v2 lib available, but has anyone moved a phx_dropboxLib-connected app to v2? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals o

Re: develop a hybrid app

2017-05-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
The short answer is "nope". • If you have a smart watch, you know that the apps run on the watch, not on the phone, so even if you get the phone, the watch still wins. • There is a reason why Nissan is proposing adding Faraday cages to the center console of the Juke ( https://www.google.com/search?

Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary 0_8_1_0

2017-05-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
The latest feature, importing notes, is pretty darn cool. Now if we can get someone to compile and distribute notes when something comes up, here, that would be really cool. On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 8:48 AM, BNig via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > TinyDictionary is a small

Re: Documentation on Accelerated Rendering

2017-05-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I think I want to have Mark's baby. On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:38 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 5/3/17 6:00 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: > >> On 2017-04-30 23:52, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: >> >>> I have been wanting to k

Re: develop a hybrid app

2017-05-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Oh, yes, and as usual, any incorrect statements I made in said post are simply evidence that my account has been Sims'd, not that I don't know what I'm talking about. On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > The short answer is "nope". > • If you have a smart watch, you know that the

Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary 0_8_1_0

2017-05-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Sure, but as you can see, that isn't happening, and tinydict isn't part of LC, it's separate, as Bernd has requested. On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Mike Kerner wrote: > > > The latest feature, importing notes, is pretty d

Re: develop a hybrid app

2017-05-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
You can't block outbound calls on ios, only inbound, and only based on caller id ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com

Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary 0_8_1_0

2017-05-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
The cool thing about TD is that you don't necessarily have to write anything. For example, Mark's AR note from yesterday can be installed into TD as-is, which is exactly what Bernd did, yesterday. He copied and pasted the email into a text file and sent it to me. A couple of clicks later, and Mar

Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary 0_8_1_0

2017-05-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
exactly On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Mike Kerner wrote: > > > The cool thing about TD is that you don't necessarily have to write > > anything. For example, Mark's AR note from yesterday can be > > installed into TD as-

Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary 0_8_1_0

2017-05-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
The notes are part of TD, not LC. On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 4:37 PM, pink via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > BNig wrote > > TinyDictionary is a small footprint dictionary for Livecode from version > > 8.1 and up. > > > > New features are user added notes and import of notes.

Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

2017-05-12 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Might this be a reason to think about working tighter integration between LC and some other text editor? Then the TE can do what TE's do best, and LC can worry less about adding TE features. OR, what about taking one of the OSS TE's and working on integrating them into LC, eventually removing the

Re: ANN: new team member

2017-05-12 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I hope it's a scripter, not a coder or a programmer. On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Devin Asay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Congratulations, Ali! > > RE a new future programmer. As they say out here in the wild, wild west > (paraphrased): > > Mommas, don’t let you

Re: ANN: new team member

2017-05-12 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Except, Bob, I would consider (C)rap to be what a coder writes in. No one who ever wrote assembly would consider that a low-level language in comparison to C. On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Congratulations! > > I think yo

Re: WannaCry [OT]

2017-05-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Unfortunately, there are very expensive pieces of gear that have controls on them that for one reason or another cannot be controlled by OS's newer than XP. I happen to have one, here. It cost $750,000. There is no dealing with the OS issue without replacing the control, and that is also extreme

Re: WannaCry [OT]

2017-05-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
First and foremost, you might expect M$ to be able to deliver an OS that is backward compatible, since they are the 800 lb. gorilla in this conversation. They put out the specs that all the hardware vendors built to, before they decided to change the rules and go in a direction that broke everythi

Re: WannaCry [OT]

2017-05-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
is may well be M$'s problem . . . . > > Although the way Apple behave I cannot somehow see them in the role > of Fay Wray! > > Richmond. > > > On 5/15/17 7:48 pm, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> First and foremost, you might expect M$ to be able

Re: Writing Extensions

2017-05-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
yep. it's not fun, yet. On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Having spent a bit of the day experimenting with LCB, I have this to say: > > the documentation is atrocious > > ...also, the only thing I have to say about error repor

Re: [Blog] New post for your reading pleasure

2017-05-19 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I paid up and send in my shirt size, yesterday. Heather's response was "What does 'two bolts' mean?" On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Dear List Folks, > > There is a new blog post up with interesting information for you fro

Re: [Blog] New post for your reading pleasure

2017-05-19 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 7:15 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I paid up and send in my shirt size, yesterday. Heather's response was > > "What does 'two bolts' me

Re: [Blog] New post for your reading pleasure

2017-05-19 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Don't be hating on mikey like that. Mikey needs his protein. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/u

Re: English Like?

2017-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
One of the other things that the xtalk languages have that makes them more appealing is synonyms (and similarly, abbreviations), which makes it a much more personalized experience as a writer with fewer mental gymnastics. I tend to prefer the longer, more verbose forms when writing. I will open f

Re: Writing Extensions

2017-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
On the CompileIt thoughts, that was what I was hoping we were going to get with LCB (We already have Double-XX). You could make any Mac Toolbox call in CompileIt, which meant you could build any XCMD/XFCN to add to your stack, but the syntax was still HC (with some restrictions). On Wed, May 24,

Re: Writing Extensions

2017-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I personally hate switch. That said, getting rid of the CR's would help make the new "choose" easier to read. If you want a CR, use \ choose tValue when 1 or 2 or 3 -- do something end choose choose tValue when 1\ or 2\ or 3 -- do something end choose On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:03 AM, K

Re: Writing Extensions

2017-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
< use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 2017-05-24 14:55, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> On the CompileIt thoughts, that was what I was hoping we were going to get >> with LCB (We already have Double-XX). You could make any Mac Toolbox call >> in CompileIt, whi

Re: English Like?

2017-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
That is certainly true. The approachability of the language is the hook that got me hooked, even though HC was my...8th? 9th? 15th? language. For beginners, we should be asking what else we can do to make their life easier. Community is free and it gets you in, but you can't build even the simp

Re: English Like?

2017-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
The problem with this idea is the need to register the device through apple's developer portal, but I wonder if testFlight could be leveraged to make that work. TestFlight apps are time-limited, so that takes care of that problem... On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > That is

Re: English Like?

2017-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
like "put the left of someObject"? On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 05/24/2017 08:11 AM, Martin Koob via use-livecode wrote: > >> I agree that LiveCode script should become more English like as time goes >> on >> not only w

Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?

2017-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
If you're referring to ios, look up "plist hack", here. The only thing to remember is that for each version of LC, you have to perform the hack, again, until Edinburgh gives us a Standalone Settings option. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runr

Dropbox v1 API - one month until it is shut off!

2017-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Reminder, everyone using dropbox, you have until the end of June to get your apps migrated to the v2 API before your dropbox functionality will cease. Rumor says that the Dropbox team is granting reprieves to people who ask for them, but I don't know if that's for everyone for every app. If you a

Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?

2017-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
nrev.com> wrote: > Thank you! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 24, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > If you're referring to ios, look up "plist hack", here. The only th

Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?

2017-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
017, at 3:43 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > Thank you! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On May 24, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> > >> If you're referr

Re: English Like?

2017-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
so, @markwieder, are you not a fan of synonyms? On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 05/24/2017 03:38 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > >> Mark Wieder wrote: >> >> > Now I only have to remember whether it's clockwis

Re: Dropbox v1 API - one month until it is shut off!

2017-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ipt > library alternatives available. > > Cheers > > Monte > > > On 25 May 2017, at 5:42 am, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Reminder, everyone using dropbox, you have until the end of June to get > > your ap

Re: Dropbox v1 API - one month until it is shut off!

2017-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ithub.com/livecode/livecode/blob/develop/extension >> s/script-libraries/dropbox/dropbox.livecodescript> >> >> There is not much point maintaining mergDropbox if there are script >> library alternatives available. >> >> Cheers >> >> Monte >

Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?

2017-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
> > a pc. Researching it now. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On May 24, 2017, at 4:27 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > >> > >> I read that on the forums, but I defer to Ralph on this. > >> > >> I am playing with the

Re: Dropbox v1 API - one month until it is shut off!

2017-05-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
x.livecodescript < >>> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/blob/develop/extension >>> s/script-libraries/dropbox/dropbox.livecodescript> >>> >>> There is not much point maintaining mergDropbox if there are script >>> library alternatives availab

Re: Funny pricing policy

2017-05-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Or, you can email support and magically get the discount applied, retroactively. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:29 AM, hh via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > The T-shirt pricing policy connected to LC Global: > > One has to pay 100% if one purchases LC Global nearly 'at once',

Re: Funny pricing policy

2017-05-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
why not? Coupons are always retroactive. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:02 PM, hh via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Mike K. wrote: > > Or, you can email support and magically get the discount applied, > > retroactively. > > That's even a bit more funny. > Email support aft

Re: English Like?

2017-05-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Conjunctions should not be used as the first word in a sentence. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I almost ace'd gr

Re: Funny pricing policy

2017-05-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ywalled. Its really > backward. The idea should be to to entice the wider programming world IN, > not lock them out. > > On 25 May 2017 8:42 pm, "Mike Kerner via use-livecode" < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > why not? Coupons are always retroa

Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?

2017-05-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
rather than restart? >> > >> > I don't actually know how to do any of the steps for this - would be >> easy on >> > a pc. Researching it now. >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> On May 24, 2017, at 4:27 PM, jonathandly

Re: Funny pricing policy

2017-05-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
, especially keynotes > > On 25 May 2017 9:45 pm, "Mike Kerner via use-livecode" < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > It's a developer conference, just an online one. If it was being held in a > hall or at LC HQ, you would have to pay to attend. >

Re: English Like?

2017-05-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
s a _talking box_ on your screen?". > > ~Roger > > On May 24, 2017 5:49 PM, "Mark Wieder via use-livecode" < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > On 05/24/2017 05:43 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > > > One of the other th

Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-05-30 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Any ETA on dp-7? I have a sort-of urgent need that I hope is addressed in 7. On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 2017-05-18 16:09, hh via use-livecode wrote: > >> [Excerpt from thread 'LC core team', now with a more appro

Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-06-02 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Mark, and the rest of the team, having come from other development tools, where the team is not part of the community, it's nice that you guys are so actively engaged with the community, even when you're completely wrong because you disagree with me. On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 7:46 AM, hh via use-liv

Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-06-02 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Jun 2017, at 14:22, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Mark, and the rest of the team, having come from other development > tools, > > where the team is not part of the community, it's nice that you guys are > so > &

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