I've been away, in various senses, and only just read about all this.
I have enormous respect for Kevin and LiveCode.
I've been using the product since it was Metacard, and Revolution (as it was
then) was an enormous upgrade. The first bug I reported in the quality control
centre was over 20 y
I agree Ben.
I've used it to make tools for myself
- Create is not for me.
- I'll keep using Classic while I can
- Please put everything we to need know in text
- I can't watch videos*
Best,
--
Kenji Kojima / 小島健治
http://www.kenjikojima.com/
> On Aug 2, 2024, at 3:22 AM, Ben Rubinstein via u
Everyone I know wants to keep using LC Classic for a while.
Most people still want it. Read this list. LC Classic is popular!
Launching LC 10 as DOA or a 'lame duck' makes little sense.
LC 9 and 10 are still heavily in demand under the old terms.
(I'm not against progress; in fact, before Crea
I've been half following the recent tweets but just don't have the mental
capacity to keep up.
FYI I used HyperCard since it was Beta and no manual!! I really commend
what Kevin and team have done to keep the world's most friendly programming
environment going. I wish I could just pay for LiveCode
I too am in the "Clasic Is For Me Crowd”
- Been here since Metacard
- Use LC strictly as a hobby
- LC is extremely important to me as a hobby
- Have created hundreds of tools, utilities, simulations, fun things just for
shear enjoyment and mental exercise
- Have frequent internet problems that i
Same here.
I have been into hypertalk since the 1st version of HC.
I have 2 desktop apps for 2 different clients that I maintain, and in
each one
the part developed with LC Classic is just a front end for sending
requests to
the server and displaying the incoming data. In both cases 80% of the
Kevin has clearly made the point that it has become financially untenable to
continue with the classic licensing model. You cannot mean that you want him to
go bankrupt so that you can maintain your hobby! You are asking him for what he
cannot give. It only remains then for all of us to decide w
Le 2024-08-02 11:17, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode a écrit :
You cannot mean that you want him to go bankrupt
Of course not, but neither me or my clients want to go bankrupt.
My clients have already paid for the deployment of their apps and they
are also paying when some cosmetic changes need to
as i have previously said, the new pricing ($440 per deployed device) is
untenable for my companies. we won't pay 4d for their REST licenses (for a
much more complete product), either.
we are starting to actively search for alternatives.
if the pricing does not change to something that is actually
Or you could explain your problem to us directly, as Kevin has asked a couple
of times already on this list and we can see what we can do.
You have an open ticket in support. You have not as yet told me that the new
pricing is unaffordable for you.
Best Regards,
Heather
Heather Laine
Custome
Mike. We asked you to talk to us before the pricing went public. Kevin has
reiterated the request that clients with issues get in touch. I once again
extend that invitation to you.
Best Regards,
Heather
Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com
> On 2 Aug 2024, a
If this is the conclusion that you come to, then I failed to make my case.
Sorry!
I thank Kevin for keeping this amazing tool going for so many years and want
him to succeed in the future.
Roger
> On Aug 2, 2024, at 8:17 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.co
Hmm, wouldn’t this count in the other tier as you sell your app, thus you
should pay 5% of $75? $3.75
:-Håkan
> 26 juli 2024 kl. 19:08 skrev J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
> :
>
> I hope this is generic enough.
>
> I have several clients who use apps I created just for them, 20 years ago or
heather, as i told you, at the time, i am busy running multiple companies.
i don't have time for pitches.
i asked for you to send me the information so that i could review it, ahead
of a call. that request was declined.
if the pricing remains untenable, we will be rewriting apps and exiting.
On F
Heather,
I know you suggested a zoom meeting before announcing the new pricing
plans, but
we were unable to proceed, mainly because I was really busy with the
server transfer
for our on-rev accounts and all the troubles it caused to my clients
with their apps
and all the little adjustments th
Retiree’s comments:
I started with runtime revolution v1 when it was included on a PC Pro magazine
all those years ago and immediately built my first program which was a neat
utility (in 4 languages) which was used by my company. No fee, plenty cudos.
Continued using Runrev over the years to bui
+1
On Aug 2, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Kevin Stallibrass via use-livecode
wrote:
Retiree’s comments:
I started with runtime revolution v1 when it was included on a PC Pro magazine
all those years ago and immediately built my first program which was a neat
utility (in 4 languages) which was used by my
Well lets discuss that. Off list.
I'm done for the weekend now and we have a holiday on Monday in Scotland, so
I'lll come back to you on Tuesday with some thoughts.
Best Regards,
Heather
Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com
> On 2 Aug 2024, at 17:47, jbv via
I understand busy. Sometimes we are so busy chopping down trees we cannot see
the wood.
You have a specific situation. The people on this list cannot help you resolve
it. Talking about it on this list and indeed reading the long conversations on
this list is using up your precious time. Maybe t
I don't think so. These apps are bespoke apps (a lovely word not seen often
in the US.) This from the FAQ:
"I create apps for other companies and sell services to those companies as
a consultancy service to create them"
"You need one license for each developer of the app. The company you
devel
sunlight is the greatest disinfectant.
these are conversations that should be held in the open.
On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 1:10 PM Heather Laine via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> I understand busy. Sometimes we are so busy chopping down trees we cannot
> see the wood.
>
> You
I don't know what you think we are trying to hide.
Do you want to discuss your annual takings on this list? Or the number and
needs of your clients? I don't think its relevant to the readers here nor any
of their business. We've explained the new licensing, exhaustively. We've said
we want to h
Yup. +100
> On Aug 2, 2024, at 10:45 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> I don't know what you think we are trying to hide.
>
> Do you want to discuss your annual takings on this list? Or the number and
> needs of your clients? I don't think its relevant to the readers here nor an
+100 also
On 8/2/2024 2:04 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
Yup. +100
On Aug 2, 2024, at 10:45 AM, Heather Laine via
use-livecode wrote:
Please take this off list. This thread is not helpful and its time for it to
stop.
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