Yup. +100 > On Aug 2, 2024, at 10:45 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > I don't know what you think we are trying to hide. > > Do you want to discuss your annual takings on this list? Or the number and > needs of your clients? I don't think its relevant to the readers here nor any > of their business. We've explained the new licensing, exhaustively. We've > said we want to help existing customers. We've said there is a program to > help you migrate, on a case by case basis. > > If you want to take us up on that, please do. If not, well that is your > decision. > > Please take this off list. This thread is not helpful and its time for it to > stop. > > Best Regards, > > Heather > List mom. On the Use LiveCode list. > > > Heather Laine > Customer Services Manager > LiveCode Ltd > www.livecode.com > > > >> On 2 Aug 2024, at 18:34, Mike Kerner via use-livecode >> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >> sunlight is the greatest disinfectant. >> these are conversations that should be held in the open. >> >> On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 1:10 PM Heather Laine via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >>> I understand busy. Sometimes we are so busy chopping down trees we cannot >>> see the wood. >>> >>> You have a specific situation. The people on this list cannot help you >>> resolve it. Talking about it on this list and indeed reading the long >>> conversations on this list is using up your precious time. Maybe taking >>> half an hour to talk about it direct with us would resolve it and >>> potentially save you... I have no idea how long rewriting your apps. >>> >>> But its entirely up to you. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> Heather >>> >>> Heather Laine >>> Customer Services Manager >>> LiveCode Ltd >>> www.livecode.com >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 2 Aug 2024, at 17:21, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> heather, as i told you, at the time, i am busy running multiple >>> companies. >>>> i don't have time for pitches. >>>> i asked for you to send me the information so that i could review it, >>> ahead >>>> of a call. that request was declined. >>>> if the pricing remains untenable, we will be rewriting apps and exiting. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 12:01 PM Roger Guay via use-livecode < >>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If this is the conclusion that you come to, then I failed to make my >>> case. >>>>> Sorry! >>>>> >>>>> I thank Kevin for keeping this amazing tool going for so many years and >>>>> want him to succeed in the future. >>>>> >>>>> Roger >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 2, 2024, at 8:17 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < >>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> You cannot mean that you want him to go bankrupt so that you can >>>>> maintain your hobby! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 2, 2024, at 8:17 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < >>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Kevin has clearly made the point that it has become financially >>>>> untenable to continue with the classic licensing model. You cannot mean >>>>> that you want him to go bankrupt so that you can maintain your hobby! >>> You >>>>> are asking him for what he cannot give. It only remains then for all of >>> us >>>>> to decide what we can and cannot accept. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob S >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 2, 2024, at 7:59 AM, Roger Guay via use-livecode < >>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I too am in the "Clasic Is For Me Crowd” >>>>>> >>>>>> - Been here since Metacard >>>>>> - Use LC strictly as a hobby >>>>>> - LC is extremely important to me as a hobby >>>>>> - Have created hundreds of tools, utilities, simulations, fun things >>>>> just for shear enjoyment and mental exercise >>>>>> - Have frequent internet problems that interfere with cloud computing >>>>>> - Have participated in every fundraising campagne >>>>>> - Frequently contributed to Example Stacks including Alien Civilization >>>>> Detection simulation >>>>>> >>>>>> I beg you, Kevin, don’t take this away from us >>>>>> >>>>>> Roger >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>>>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>>> subscription preferences: >>>>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>>> subscription preferences: >>>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth >>>> On the second day, God created the oceans. >>>> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, >>>> and did a little diving. >>>> And God said, "This is good." >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >> >> >> -- >> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth >> On the second day, God created the oceans. >> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, >> and did a little diving. >> And God said, "This is good." >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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