Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 24/10/15 23:58, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/24/2015 3:29 PM, Richmond wrote: On 24/10/15 23:04, J. Landman Gay wrote: I know Mark Waddingham pretty well, and I've never heard him propose anything that he didn't already have a good idea how to accomplish. I'm not entirely sure why you equ

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 25/10/15 08:05, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/24/2015 8:24 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: I didn't even realize dehilite was a word in the dictionary. Me either. It must be a typo: set de hilite of btn 1 Wo? iz oepin lingwidge ennyway? onn mooseOp pit "Wo'z oepin lingwidge" in feeld "Wo?" o

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-25 01:17, Monte Goulding wrote: Well you've got a lot more experience with the engine and open language plans than me so if you say it's feasible and the cost benefit is sufficient to apply the resources rather than just working on the control structures in the engine then who am I to

Re: What is "Open Language"?

Ok, I went looking and ended up trying to find something related to control structures in the gentle stuff... Whew! I think I'd need to spend a couple of weeks looking at that just to work out what's going on... Sent from my iPhone > On 25 Oct 2015, at 7:14 pm, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > Unfo

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-25 08:32, Monte Goulding wrote: Ok, I went looking and ended up trying to find something related to control structures in the gentle stuff... Whew! I think I'd need to spend a couple of weeks looking at that just to work out what's going on... I find this manual extremely valuable wh

Re: What is "Open Language"?

Aha... Perhaps I should have said couple of months ;-) Sent from my iPhone > On 25 Oct 2015, at 7:42 pm, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > It did indeed take me a couple of weeks to get my head around, but that was > with lots of help from Mark Waddingham... __

Open Language and stability

The discussion about Open Language is interesting, and the idea may well be a good thing. But I for one would rather hear that for the actual development team, delivering a rock-solid version of LiveCode on all supported platforms is taking a massive priority over even thinking about this stuff.

Re: What is "Open Language"?

Agreed, definitely. gc > On Oct 24, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > I can't speak for Mark, but from my point of view, Open Language without > custom control structures would be woefully incomplete. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-liv

Re: What is "Open Language"?

But that's true now. *Every* time I look at someone else's code I have to spend time figuring out their way of doing things. I'm sure this is true whenever someone looks at my code as well. There can be clearer and less clear code, and obviously the situation could be made worse by bad extension

Re: Open Language and stability

As someone who *really* wants open language, I completely agree with this. gc > On Oct 25, 2015, at 7:06 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: > > The discussion about Open Language is interesting, and the idea may well be a > good thing. But I for one would rather hear that for the actual development >

Re: Open Language and stability

> Graham Samuel wrote: > The discussion about Open Language is interesting, and the idea may well be a > good thing. But I for one would rather hear that for the actual development > team, delivering a rock-solid version of LiveCode on all supported platforms > is taking a massive priority over

Re: Open Language and stability

"RichmondMatth" should read "RichmondMath". Sorry Richmond, that was a 'Freundian slip' ;-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lis

Re: Open Language and stability

I **am** looking at the output. I love LiveCode, but there is more than one version current, there are many bugs, there are many deficiencies in the documentation... What would your advice be to a fairly non-technical person plunging into the LiveCode pool today for the first time and not wantin

Re: parentheses within string break value()

On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Is 123 a function? If yes, I believe you need to remove the quotes > surrounding it. > Just some text. I'm trying to concatenated strings, but livecode is looking at punctuation inside of the quoted literal. That was a simplified version;

Re: Open Language and stability

Absolutely. Open Language is at the very end of the list. The cake has to be fully risen before we add icing. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps On 25/10/2015 13:59, "use-livecode on behalf of Geoff Canyon" wro

Re: Open Language and stability

Is it cheesecake? > On Oct 25, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: > > Absolutely. Open Language is at the very end of the list. The cake has to > be fully risen before we add icing. > > Kind regards, > > Kevin > > Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ > LiveCode: Ev

Re: Open Language and stability

On 10/25/2015 08:45 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: Absolutely. Open Language is at the very end of the list. The cake has to be fully risen before we add icing. Cake! They told me there would be cake! -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode

Re: Open Language and stability

Someone will be really cheesed off if RunRev has now made a promise of cake with icing and it is not delivered or delivered without icing. Martin -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Open-Language-and-stability-tp4697974p4697985.html Sent from the Rev

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 25/10/15 15:56, Geoff Canyon wrote: But that's true now. *Every* time I look at someone else's code I have to spend time figuring out their way of doing things. Very true indeed. When I was at the "University" of Abertay there was a lecturer (who was, supposedly, teaching us Visual Basic 5

Re: Open Language and stability

On 25/10/15 16:35, hh wrote: "RichmondMatth" should read "RichmondMath". Sorry Richmond, that was a 'Freundian slip' ;-) ___ Ha, Ha: well-said that 'man'. R. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@l

Re: Open Language and stability

On 25/10/15 17:45, Kevin Miller wrote: Absolutely. Open Language is at the very end of the list. The cake has to be fully risen before we add icing. Aah: super, at last; but "by Gum" it takes a lot of 'heavy-lifting' to get this sort of definite statement. Love, Richmond. P.S. What's the ch

Re: Open Language and stability

On 25/10/15 17:57, Martin Koob wrote: Someone will be really cheesed off if RunRev has now made a promise of cake with icing and it is not delivered or delivered without icing. Martin Seedcake doesn't have icing: only things that get stuck between your teeth . . . R. ___

Re: Open Language and stability

> On Oct 25, 2015, at 8:45 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: > > Absolutely. Open Language is at the very end of the list. The cake has to > be fully risen before we add icing. > > Kind regards, > > Kevin > > Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ > LiveCode: Everyone can create a

Re: Open Language and stability

We did not promise a cherry. We are not going to promise a cherry. No cherry is planned. We will not be held accountable for non-delivery of said item. > On 25 Oct 2015, at 16:23, Richmond wrote: > >> On 25/10/15 17:45, Kevin Miller wrote: >> Absolutely. Open Language is at the very end of the

Re: Open Language and stability

On 25/10/15 18:59, Kevin Miller wrote: We did not promise a cherry. We are not going to promise a cherry. No cherry is planned. We will not be held accountable for non-delivery of said item. Now, that's odd: I'm sure the word "cherry" occurred somewhere on a web-page that has somehow, subsequ

Re: Open Language and stability

On 10/25/2015 09:59 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: We did not promise a cherry. We are not going to promise a cherry. No cherry is planned. We will not be held accountable for non-delivery of said item. Can we crowd-source funding for a cherry? Who's with me on this? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmai

Re: Open Language and stability

On 25/10/15 19:10, Mark Wieder wrote: On 10/25/2015 09:59 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: We did not promise a cherry. We are not going to promise a cherry. No cherry is planned. We will not be held accountable for non-delivery of said item. Can we crowd-source funding for a cherry? Who's with me on

Re: Open Language and stability

On 10/25/2015 12:10 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: On 10/25/2015 09:59 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: We did not promise a cherry. We are not going to promise a cherry. No cherry is planned. We will not be held accountable for non-delivery of said item. Can we crowd-source funding for a cherry? Who's with me

Re: Open Language and stability

> On 26 Oct 2015, at 4:10 am, Mark Wieder wrote: > > Can we crowd-source funding for a cherry? > Who's with me on this? I’m happy to donate cherries from our cherry tree but you will need to crowd fund for the shipping from Tasmania to Edinburgh and to cover the costs of cherry - cake integra

Re: How can a button not have properties?

Hi Ali, Perhaps it would be possible to add a few lines to the parser, which would make it possible to run syntax like put (the cSomeProperty of this card)["some index"] into myVar The parentheses would indicate that additional parsing is necessary, while nothing would need to happen without

Re: Open Language and stability

> Mark Wieder wrote: > Can we crowd-source funding for a cherry? > Who's with me on this? __.--~~.,-.__ `~-._.-(`-.__`-. \`~~` .--./ \ /# \ \.--. \/ /# \ '--' \/ '--' ?I???II??IIII?I

Re: Open Language and stability

Makes more sense in Monaco: __.--~~.,-.__ `~-._.-(`-.__`-. \`~~` .--./ \ /# \ \.--. \/ /# \ '--' \/ '--' ?I???II??IIII?II?I+. 888.888.O888..888 ..??I??..?

Re: Open Language and stability

On 25/10/15 21:56, Colin Holgate wrote: Makes more sense in Monaco: __.--~~.,-.__ `~-._.-(`-.__`-. \`~~` .--./ \ /# \ \.--. \/ /# \ '--' \/ '--' ?I???II??IIII?II?I+.

Re: Open Language and stability

Forget the cherry, we need lit candles so we can see our code better! We need candles! ;-) Rick > On Oct 25, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Richmond wrote: > > On 25/10/15 18:59, Kevin Miller wrote: >> We did not promise a cherry. We are not going to promise a cherry. No cherry >> is planned. We will no

Re: recursion limit when creating file list of harddrive

Well, it's a sad comment on my filing system, but it was easier to rewrite this handler from scratch (and memory) than it was to find the original :-) Note this is done as a handler rather than a function, because it has 3 return values - a list of files, a list of folders, and a list of any

Re: recursion limit when creating file list of harddrive

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, Alex. JB > On Oct 25, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: > > Well, it's a sad comment on my filing system, but it was easier to rewrite > this handler from scratch (and memory) than it was to find the original :-) > > Note this is done as a handler rather than a funct

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Richmond wrote: > > and obviously the situation could be made worse by bad extensions, but >> bad extensions wouldn't survive. >> > > Well, they will if, despite being written in obscurantist code they do > what they are meant to do. cruft is cruft, I meant t

Re: recursion limit when creating file list of harddrive

Thanks for all your comments. Richard was right, my recursion limit error was caused by the fact that the directory could not be set. It was, like Alex assumed, a strange character in a folder. After i changed that folder name in my “sample” harddrive i was able to import the drive. In future

Re: Open Language and stability

On 10/25/2015 12:24 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Make your own cherry with LCB and give the first couple of versions away for free. Then somewhere just after version 3 you could sell a more expensive chocolate-covered version and call it Cherry Pi. That's an irrational idea. -- Mark Wieder ah

Re: recursion limit when creating file list of harddrive

I have been testing it out and it is working good so far. I set the cursor to watch after selecting. I am not sure if setting it to busy in a repeat will take too much time on large operations. Is there and easy way to have it only list the folder paths? JB > On Oct 25, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Alex

Re: Sending encrypted and authenticated emails

Hi Bob, I tried contacting via bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com but the mail bounced. I was going to try and help with the Telnet solution. Glen On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Hi all. > > I just figured out how to send encrypted authenticated emails via Exchange > servers (a

dehilite

It works. I tried this on a new stack with a new button in LC8(dp7) on my Mac. * set the hilite of button 1 to true * dehilite button 1 * put the hilite of button 1 — returns false Curious. FYI Bob Message: 16 Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 01:05:56 -0500 From: "J. Landman Gay" mailto:jac...@hyperact

Re: recursion limit when creating file list of harddrive

I'm not sure about cursor setting - you might put in a counter, and set it to busy every 1000 (or 10,000) times through loop. What if we want only folder paths ? I did briefly consider saying that the @pFiles and @pFolders parameters could have TRUE/False values on input, and then say somethin

"Question"?

Question is reserved as a keyword in the SE, but I don't see it in the dictionary. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This i

Re: recursion limit when creating file list of harddrive

Okay - Thank you very much again! JB > On Oct 25, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: > > I'm not sure about cursor setting - you might put in a counter, and set it to > busy every 1000 (or 10,000) times through loop. > > What if we want only folder paths ? > > I did briefly consider sayi

Re: Open Language and stability

On 10/25/2015 6:42 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: On 10/25/2015 12:24 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Make your own cherry with LCB and give the first couple of versions away for free. Then somewhere just after version 3 you could sell a more expensive chocolate-covered version and call it Cherry Pi. That

Re: "Question"?

> On 26 Oct 2015, at 12:34 pm, Mike Kerner wrote: > > Question is reserved as a keyword in the SE, but I don't see it in the > dictionary. answer | ask question -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt

Re: dehilite

On 10/25/2015 05:27 PM, Bob Cole wrote: It works. I tried this on a new stack with a new button in LC8(dp7) on my Mac. * set the hilite of button 1 to true * dehilite button 1 * put the hilite of button 1 — returns false Curious. FYI It's a synonym for "unhilite". Apparently both have been a

Re: Sending encrypted and authenticated emails

On 10/25/2015 05:10 PM, Glen Bojsza wrote: Hi Bob, I tried contacting via bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com but the mail bounced. I bounced an email to Bob as well. No doubt a temporary server glitch, although the Exchange headers in the bounce message are pretty scary. 10/25/2015 11:39:19 PM - R

Re: Open Language and stability

On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:10 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > That's an irrational idea. >> >> > Quite, but it just goes on and on.. > We're not going to repeat this again? :) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing li

Re: glx2

wow… I didn’t fully realize that glx2 was still alive. I bought a license from Jerry for that years ago… loved it, just downloaded, thanks Mark But: ha! forgot how it works… where is the documentation? I see the sub bar gray notification underneath LC ide toolbar (7.1GM for me right now) a

Re: glx2

forget this… I found everything… marvelous1 tks Swasti Astu! Be Well Brahmanathaswami Kauai’s Hindu Monastery www.himalayanacademy.com On 10/25/15, 5:01 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami" wrote: >wow… I didn’t fully realize that glx2 was still alive. I bought

find & replace

Has anyone got a find and replace stack that actually works? I’ve got to rebrand an app quickly and the find and replace in the IDE seems to not actually replace anything or at least seems to only replace some things when it feels like it… I haven’t got time to debug what’s going on… Cheers Mo

Re: find & replace

> On 26 Oct 2015, at 2:35 pm, Monte Goulding > wrote: > > Has anyone got a find and replace stack that actually works? I’ve got to > rebrand an app quickly and the find and replace in the IDE seems to not > actually replace anything or at least seems to only replace some things when > it fee

Re: recursion limit when creating file list of harddrive

On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D < matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote: > I am using a script snippet which was posted by Scott Rossi to the list > and was originally from Geoff Canyon in 2002. > http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/metacard/2002-August/002274.html > Man,