how far can you go with LC image editing?

2013-02-13 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi, I wonder how far you can go with image editing with LC. I know, how to replace a color in an image or how to make a grayscale image from a color image. Currently I have a color image where I replace a given "background" color by white (like a blue box). This works pretty good, beside of the "h

Re: LiveCode has a new eye on the earth

2013-02-13 Thread Bernard Devlin
Critcising the aesthetics of programmes produced by RAD tools has often been a way in which "professional programmers" have rubbished the useful (yet unpolished) tools that literally ran many businesses. The same thing happened with Lotus Notes. It was an environment that permitted thousands of n

RE: LiveCode has a new eye on the earth

2013-02-13 Thread John Dixon
Well said...:-) Dixie > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:24:02 + > From: bdrun...@gmail.com > Critcising the aesthetics of programmes produced by RAD tools has often > been a way in which "professional programmers" have rubbished the useful > (yet unpolished) tools that literally ran many businesse

1001 things you can do with LiveCode

2013-02-13 Thread Peter W A Wood
I'm pretty sure that everybody on these lists (sorry for double posting) wants the LiveCode Open Source project to succeed. You've probably already pledged what you can (or are going to make your pledge soon). You'd possibly like to help but don't know how. Well I think there is a way everybody

Re: OT: Director 12 released

2013-02-13 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi, this link was posted in the german directtor list and i think you all should read at least point 4. and 5. http://www.adobe.com/products/eulas/director_supplemental_terms.html 4. PAYMENT FOR PAID IOS APPS. WITH RESPECT TO EACH PAID IOS APP, CUSTOMER SHALL PAY ADOBE 10% OF THE REVENUE

AW: OT: Director 12 released

2013-02-13 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Wow! Always read the small printed (don't know the English saying) > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag > von Matthias Rebbe > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Februar 2013 12:41 > An: How to use LiveCode > Betreff: Re: OT: Direct

Re: OT: Director 12 released

2013-02-13 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Tiemo, Am 13.02.2013 um 13:47 schrieb Tiemo Hollmann TB : > Wow! Always read the small printed (don't know the English saying) that's "the fine print" :-) >> Betreff: Re: OT: Director 12 released >> Hi, >> >> this link was posted in the german directtor list and i think you all >> should re

AW: OT: Director 12 released

2013-02-13 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Klaus, I knew I could count on you. Did you translated it with ditto? Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag > von Klaus on-rev > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Februar 2013 13:52 > An: How to use LiveCode > Betreff: Re: OT:

Re: OT: Director 12 released

2013-02-13 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Tiemo, Am 13.02.2013 um 14:08 schrieb "Tiemo Hollmann TB" : > Klaus, > I knew I could count on you. Did you translated it with ditto? EX-ACTLY! :-D > Tiemo > >> ... >> Hi Tiemo, >> Am 13.02.2013 um 13:47 schrieb Tiemo Hollmann TB : >>> Wow! Always read the small printed (don't know the Engl

Re: 1001 things you can do with LiveCode

2013-02-13 Thread Ben Rubinstein
Peter, I think it's a great idea, and will send you a contribution off-list. Thank you for taking this initiative. The next question remains how we can publicise and spread this beyond our community. Ben On 13/02/2013 10:42, Peter W A Wood wrote: I'm pretty sure that everybody on these

Re: OT: Director 12 released

2013-02-13 Thread Colin Holgate
It's pretty entertaining to watch the heated debates, in the public email lists and in the private Director beta. To take advantage of the timing I posted this to the Director email list just now: "There is some overlap between what Director is used for and what LiveCode is used for, and if you

Re: OT: Director 12 released

2013-02-13 Thread Colin Holgate
Either expression works. On Feb 13, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Klaus on-rev wrote: >> Wow! Always read the small printed (don't know the English saying) > > that's "the fine print" :-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: OT: Director 12 released

2013-02-13 Thread Richmond
On 02/13/2013 01:40 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi, this link was posted in the german directtor list and i think you all should read at least point 4. and 5. http://www.adobe.com/products/eulas/director_supplemental_terms.html 4. PAYMENT FOR PAID IOS APPS. WITH RESPECT TO EACH PAID IOS A

Re: OT: Director 12 released

2013-02-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
Matthias Rebbe wrote: > In short: Adobe wants to be paid, if we sell an iOS app which was > created with Director ! They weren't paid when licensees gave them $999? This is the best gift ever - for every company that competes with Adobe. :) When we consider this in light of the underhanded way

Re: how far can you go with LC image editing?

2013-02-13 Thread Mike Bonner
You might look at this thread... http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9490&hilit=image+editor&start=75the "photo room" stack has some good stuff. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder how far you can go with image editing with LC. I know, how to >

AW: how far can you go with LC image editing?

2013-02-13 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Thanks for the hint Mike Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag > von Mike Bonner > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Februar 2013 15:21 > An: How to use LiveCode > Betreff: Re: how far can you go with LC image editing? > > Y

Re: 1001 things you can do with LiveCode

2013-02-13 Thread Kevin Miller
This is a great idea. A very different sort of platform showcase and not on our website. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can code On 13/02/2013 10:42, "Peter W A Wood" wrote: >I'm pretty sure that everybody on these lists (sor

Re: OT: Director 12 released

2013-02-13 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 13/02/2013 13:44, Colin Holgate wrote: ...you will have a tool that can publish to Mac, Windows, Linux, Server, iOS, and Android, for free, and with no royalty payments." err... I think that's narrowly accurate, but perhaps a shade misleading. If you wanted to sell your app (on any platfor

Re: OT: Director 12 released

2013-02-13 Thread Colin Holgate
I did follow up with a correction about the Apple stores, and how you would have to be current with the £319 for that year. But looking at the FAQ table, only closed source and Apple apps need the commercial license. Apps that are monetized but open source come under the free license. On Feb 1

mobilePickPhoto and jellybean bug

2013-02-13 Thread Larry Weaver
Heya Gang, I'm hoping that we can get this fix included in the current 5.5.3 build. I was in contact with Support and one of the guys suggested adding a comment to the existing bug report requesting this fix for 5.5.3 instead of the targeted 6.0. I would encourage any other Android developers t

Re: LiveCode has a new eye on the earth

2013-02-13 Thread Robert Brenstein
On 13.02.2013 at 10:24 Uhr + Bernard Devlin apparently wrote: Critcising the aesthetics of programmes produced by RAD tools has often been a way in which "professional programmers" have rubbished the useful (yet unpolished) tools that literally ran many businesses. The same thing happened wi

Re: LiveCode has a new eye on the earth

2013-02-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Bernard- Thank you. Yes, you're making my point quite well, but I can't tell whether that was the intention or whether you're trying to argue against it. For sheer functionality and showcasing the power of LiveCode, it's hard to beat the Landsat application. But I'd argue that displaying screensh

Re: 1001 things you can do with LiveCode

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
Actually there's a lot more than 845 people on these lists On 13/02/2013, at 9:42 PM, Peter W A Wood wrote: > I'm pretty sure that everybody on these lists (sorry for double posting) > wants the LiveCode Open Source project to succeed. You've probably already > pledged what you can (or are

Re: 1001 things you can do with LiveCode

2013-02-13 Thread Heather Laine
Indeed, Monte. If you are on this list and you want the project to succeed, time to open the wallet. Don't rely on Tom doing it. Or Mark or Monte or Peter ;) Every little helps. Regards, Heather On 13 Feb 2013, at 19:35, Monte Goulding wrote: > Actually there's a lot more than 845 people on

Re: 1001 things you can do with LiveCode

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
I did do it... then bumped it up again... if everyone here did what I did then we would meet all the stretch goals + I would get to write my promised CoreBluetooth external for selling out of £640. Plus I have decided that if it goes open source I will (attempt) to work out why sockets aren't su

What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
One of the things I thought might get people excited about LiveCode going open source is a thread about what different people are keen to contribute to the engine. There isn't a heap of low level language developers using LiveCode but there are enough that I think we could come up with a decent

Re: 1001 things you can do with LiveCode

2013-02-13 Thread Pierre Sahores
Less than 70 peoples to pledge at least for £ 640 ? Seems reasonably impossible, is't ? Do we all needs to act now to encourage confident new pledges along the two for coming weeks ? on mouseDown if it seems so to c = 1 to 250/300 more pledgers then LC OS will target its best ra

Re: 1001 things you can do with LiveCode

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
On 14/02/2013, at 7:48 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote: > Less than 70 peoples to pledge at least for £ 640 ? Seems reasonably > impossible, is't ? Do we all needs to act now to encourage confident new > pledges along the two for coming weeks ? Yes... I don't personally understand why the numbers a

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
Planned Open Source Contributions ENGINE - Mobile sockets - engine (Monte) - Nested behaviors so you can set the behavior of a behavior (Monte) - Getting the long id of an icon/pattern given the context of the object it's applied to (Monte) IDE - VCS integration into the IDE most likely focussed

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Mike Kerner
I can think of a pile of things: 1) Script editor (for those of us keeping score, there are at least three other script editors for LC, so hopefully Jerry will be involved). All of them improve various things in LC. Here are some things I think should be done: a) Version Control b) Code

OT: Rhythm & Hues bites the dust

2013-02-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Victim of "Hollywood Accounting"... -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi Mike The idea is to put your name against things you are personally going to look into. That way we get a real picture of what might happen once we go open source. Everyone has a long wish list ;-) Do you want to go through the list and pull out anything you will personally contribute and

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Devin Asay
On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > 2) Puny but so, so annoying: built-in method to switch between the run and > edit modes - remember command-tab? I know that's not an option but… Take it off the list! It's still there, but now it's command + option + tab. Also command + 9 for

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Mike Kerner
Devin, I get that, but if you can't do it with two-fingers of the left hand if you're a righty or two of the righty (so you don't have to let go of a mouse) then it's not good enough. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Devin Asay wrote: > > On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > > > 2)

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Mike Kerner
Monte, The problem I have is that even though I'm a regular LC user, I don't know what's where and what the various elements are in because I haven't tried to dive in to look at it. So without having a good understanding of what's going on, it's hard to put my name on any of those things AND we al

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread François Chaplais
ENGINE - bug fix/request (bug 2783) I wish typed variables, arrays of variables could be declared and manipulated as such. - update the externals toolkit and switch to 64 bit, modern frameworks for each platform. Please switch to cocoa and objective-C as far as the Mac is concerned - implement

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
What about adding Cmd+` ? On 14/02/2013, at 8:51 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > I get that, but if you can't do it with two-fingers of the left hand if > you're a righty or two of the righty (so you don't have to let go of a > mouse) then it's not good enough. -- M E R Goulding Software development se

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread François Chaplais
Of course, my post was about my wishes. I am not enough of a programmer to implement that by myself. Pardon me, Monte, if I did not adequately reply to your post. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to sub

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
On 14/02/2013, at 8:53 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > The problem I have is that even though I'm a regular LC user, I don't know > what's where and what the various elements are in because I haven't tried > to dive in to look at it. So without having a good understanding of what's > going on, it's har

Trouble developing external

2013-02-13 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Dear all, I have a project that I need to get an external created for and have run into a snag. The guy that is writing it for me is following the tutorial online and keeps getting errors. He thinks it is because the tutorial is for Version 2.7 and not 5.5 but I don't know enough to give him an

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Mike Kerner
I get how it works, but if you look at a couple of the things I want to do, they require RR to support them or it's just me and my minions and our togas. And Cmd-` is a good way to fix it for righties. I also see that François and I have several interests in common. I like the way LibreOffice ha

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
On 14/02/2013, at 8:54 AM, François Chaplais wrote: > ENGINE > - bug fix/request (bug 2783) I wish typed variables, arrays of variables > could be declared and manipulated as such. Yes that would be an interesting addition to the language > - update the externals toolkit and switch to 64 bit,

Re: Trouble developing external

2013-02-13 Thread Shawn Blc
If he'd pass the code onto you, I think in an afternoon you could have his issues solved. Just my guesstimation though ;) On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > Dear all, > > I have a project that I need to get an external created for and have run > into a snag. The guy t

Re: Trouble developing external

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
Lol... nothing has changed in the externals sdk for a looong time. On 14/02/2013, at 9:01 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > Dear all, > > I have a project that I need to get an external created for and have run into > a snag. The guy that is writing it for me is following the tutorial online

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
On 14/02/2013, at 9:06 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > I get how it works, but if you look at a couple of the things I want to do, > they require RR to support them or it's just me and my minions and our > togas. Right... but what I was looking for were real projects that people in the community might

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Alex Tweedly
It's a serious question whether or not my C / C++ skills will be up to it or not, but Planned Open Source Contributions ENGINE - Mobile sockets - engine (Monte) - Nested behaviors so you can set the behavior of a behavior (Monte) - Getting the long id of an icon/pattern given the context o

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
I'm not positive I'm enough of a programmer to implement a couple of the things I put my name against either ;-) I have no idea what it's going to be like staring at half a million lines of C++ and wondering what will happen if I poke it. On 14/02/2013, at 8:56 AM, François Chaplais wrote: > O

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread François Chaplais
The cocoa thing is the way to access advanced features like Grand Central Dispatch (introduced in snow leopard) that allows an more effective use of nowadays multicore processors by using queues instead of threads. This is of tremendous help for CPU intensive tasks, like scientific computing, si

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
Good work Alex! It's great to put your skills to the test for a challenge. Some really interesting optimisation stuff there. On 14/02/2013, at 9:33 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote: > It's a serious question whether or not my C / C++ skills will be up to it or > not, but -- M E R Goulding Software

Re: Trouble developing external

2013-02-13 Thread François Chaplais
Yes, all the links to the external resources in the user's manual are dead links :-( François Le 13 févr. 2013 à 23:18, Monte Goulding a écrit : > Lol... nothing has changed in the externals sdk for a looong time. ___ use-livecode mailing list use

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
On 14/02/2013, at 9:39 AM, François Chaplais wrote: > The cocoa thing is the way to access advanced features like Grand Central > Dispatch (introduced in snow leopard) that allows an more effective use of > nowadays multicore processors by using queues instead of threads. This is of > tremendo

Re: Campaign update

2013-02-13 Thread Kevin Miller
As promised, here is a summary of the coverage so far: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmyCYc1cXUZodGMxbExYNVVsVDVkcU k2aTZPdHV5Qmc&usp=sharing There should be lots more to come. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can co

Re: Trouble developing external

2013-02-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Monte- Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 2:18:14 PM, you wrote: > Lol... nothing has changed in the externals sdk for a looong time. Sad but true. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com P

Broken Link

2013-02-13 Thread Ed Blackhurst
Kevin, I clicked on this link and got the following message: We're sorry. The spreadsheet at this URL could not be found. Make sure that you have the right URL and that the owner of the spreadsheet hasn't deleted it. Find out more at the Google Docs Help Center. Ed > As promised, here is a

Re: Broken Link

2013-02-13 Thread Devin Asay
Looks like Kevin's email client wrapped the url and broke the link. Just copy and paste the second line after the incomplete URL. Devin On Feb 13, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Ed Blackhurst wrote: > Kevin, I clicked on this link and got the following message: > > We're sorry. > The spreadsheet at this UR

Re: Broken Link

2013-02-13 Thread Colin Holgate
The link was split on two lines. Copy both lines and paste them into your browser: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmyCYc1cXUZodGMxbExYNVVsVDVkcU k2aTZPdHV5Qmc&usp=sharing On Feb 13, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Ed Blackhurst wrote: > Kevin, I clicked on this link and got the following mess

Re: Broken Link

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
Or use this: http://goo.gl/c8QEu On 14/02/2013, at 10:27 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > The link was split on two lines. Copy both lines and paste them into your > browser: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmyCYc1cXUZodGMxbExYNVVsVDVkcU > k2aTZPdHV5Qmc&usp=sharing > > > On Feb 13,

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On Feb 13, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > 2) Puny but so, so annoying: built-in method to switch between the run and > edit modes - remember command-tab? I know that's not an option but... Here's my current workaround, use in a frontscript, launched on opening LC: on tabkey if "revN

Using returninfield

2013-02-13 Thread Alex Tweedly
This feels like a very naive question but I've searched the docs for ages and tried various things, and I'm sure someone here can answer off the top of their head :-) I have a bunch of text entry fields. I can type in to them, or edit them - and then hit TAB to move to the next field. The

Re: Using returninfield

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
Er... do you mean you want to set the autoTab to true? On 14/02/2013, at 10:39 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote: > This feels like a very naive question but I've searched the docs for > ages and tried various things, and I'm sure someone here can answer off the > top of their head :-) > > I have a

Re: Using returninfield

2013-02-13 Thread Alex Tweedly
Er ... yes :-) Thanks -- Alex. P.S. I guess if I was being picky, I'd say I wanted it to act like TAB even if the insertion point was somewhere other than the last line - but that would just be being picky, in practice it shouldn't matter. On 13/02/2013 23:46, Monte Goulding wrote: Er... do

Re: revOnline down again?

2013-02-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Mark Wieder writes: > > J. Landman Gay writes: > > > Just tried today and it's still broken. I'm thinking it has something to > > do with the recent server move, that's what borked it the last time. > > FWIW, support confirmed that it's a problem and "someone will look into it". Still as b

Re: 1001 things you can do with LiveCode

2013-02-13 Thread Peter W A Wood
Ben I think the first stage is to get a decent number of entries ... I think that publishing the blog would silly if we have less than 25 to start with. I've published 9 entries so far and have about the same again ready to be published once we can separate entries from different people. After

Another 1001 things you can do with LiveCode

2013-02-13 Thread Peter W A Wood
Thanks to all of you who've sent me screenshots of their use of LiveCode. Most of them to quote a comment on the blog are "awesome!". Clearly I must be the only person on these lists not writing awesome stuff in LiveCode :-) I'm hoping that some of you will come forward with a few samples of r

Advertising apps in GNU OS LiveCode?

2013-02-13 Thread Mark Rauterkus
Hi, This might be a good question for the conference call. Can the in app advertising widget that was promoted at the NJ LiveCode Conference be deployed once there is an Open source version of LC? Wondering. The model is to have a gratis, mobile, application for download so end users with table

Re: Advertising apps in GNU OS LiveCode?

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
As far as I'm aware open source does not preclude a developer from earning income. However, the iOS app store won't allow GPL apps and I think google accepts free ones. Basically if you released a GPL version of your software there's nothing to stop someone downloading the source and removing th

Re: PPC ?

2013-02-13 Thread Judy Perry
My university's CS department's Linux lab is comprised of all PPC Macs. Judy On Sat, 9 Feb 2013, Richmond wrote: What chance: 1. A Mac PPC version of O-S Livecode? 2. A Linux PPC version of O-S Livecode? Lots of underfunded schools "out there" running PPC Macs with either of those Operatin

Re: PPC ?

2013-02-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Judy- Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 8:14:31 PM, you wrote: > My university's CS department's Linux lab is comprised of all PPC Macs. Interesting. What are they running? Yellowdog? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing lis

Name of UK Tech Initiative?

2013-02-13 Thread Judy Perry
Hi all, I seem to recall that in the last year or so, there was a UK STEM initiative to introduce programming in the schools but I've lost the link and was wondering if any of you possibly had it? I usually have a small part of one assignment for my students involving making them aware of op

Re: PPC ?

2013-02-13 Thread Judy Perry
Mark, On Wed, 13 Feb 2013, Mark Wieder wrote: Judy- Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 8:14:31 PM, you wrote: My university's CS department's Linux lab is comprised of all PPC Macs. Interesting. What are they running? Yellowdog? You know, I don't actually know! I was kinda broken-hearted whe

Re: Name of UK Tech Initiative?

2013-02-13 Thread Devin Asay
On Feb 13, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Judy Perry wrote: > So, I guess I'm looking for two things: > > 1. The link on the UK taking programming in education seriously initiative; > and Can't help you here, but... > > 2. If and where the 30-day free trial went (link). It appears to be a 60-day trial

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Geoff Canyon
I would be working to extend the natural language syntax in every way possible through the new language capabilities. For twenty years now, whenever someone says LC is verbose, we've responded with sort lines of fld "demo" by item 3 of each put word 3 of line 2 of x into line 14 of y or something

Re: What do you want to contribute?

2013-02-13 Thread Monte Goulding
Lol... I guess you'd want to be careful not to bloat the engine with syntax for edge cases but I get your point. I like: each line of One small step forward would be allowing our own functions to be called like this: put the trim of x into y Then we could upgrade to: put the trim of each li

Re: Name of UK Tech Initiative?

2013-02-13 Thread Peter W A Wood
This probably isn't what you're looking for but it may help - http://www.stemnet.org.uk/news/view/1232326 On 14 Feb 2013, at 13:19, Judy Perry wrote: > Hi all, > > I seem to recall that in the last year or so, there was a UK STEM initiative > to introduce programming in the schools but I've los