Re: Substitute "LiveCode" for "Scratch"

2013-02-05 Thread Kevin Miller
We see LiveCode as the natural step up from Scratch. It is perfect for ages 13 to 18, just when kids start to outgrow Scratch. Which isn't to say that LC can't one day be dumbed down for the younger age group, but right now that is its sweet spot. I don't suppose anyone wants to go add a comment t

Re: Substitute "LiveCode" for "Scratch"

2013-02-05 Thread Richmond
We see LiveCode as the natural step up from Scratch. It is perfect for ages 13 to 18, just when kids start to outgrow Scratch. Which isn't to say that LC can't one day be dumbed down for the younger age group, but right now that is its sweet spot. I would say that Livecode is not "a natural st

Re: Substitute "LiveCode" for "Scratch"

2013-02-05 Thread Kevin Miller
Yes of course you can teach any age with it and we would like it used for everything. However there are many that would disagree with respect to the younger age groups who are getting good mileage with Scratch. No one will disagree about the age range 13 to 18 - at least certainly none of the hundr

compatability of rev stacks and livecode stacks in a standalone?

2013-02-05 Thread Lars Brehmer
I have an app which is a splash screen that contains all of the real program stacks compressed as custom properties. When the standalone is launched the first time, it creates a folder, open decompressed those stacks and saves them into that folder. From that point on, launching the standalone o

Re: compatability of rev stacks and livecode stacks in a standalone?

2013-02-05 Thread Mike Bonner
You can save the stacks in legacy format at which point your 2.8 stack should be able to open them. You won't get the benefits of the newer stuff using a 2.8 engine of course, but if this is ok with you then the legacy format should solve it. I think the stack format change happened around 5.5.1 I

Re: compatability of rev stacks and livecode stacks in a standalone?

2013-02-05 Thread Richmond
On 02/05/2013 07:09 PM, Lars Brehmer wrote: I have an app which is a splash screen that contains all of the real program stacks compressed as custom properties. When the standalone is launched the first time, it creates a folder, open decompressed those stacks and saves them into that folder.

Re: compatability of rev stacks and livecode stacks in a standalone?

2013-02-05 Thread Mike Bonner
Just realized you rebuilt the part with the engine with 5.5.2 (yes mike, reading is a good first step) you might check in your LC preferences and see if the checkbox for "preserve stack file versions for stacks saved in legacy format" is not checked. If it is, go in and manually "save as" to chan

Re: compatability of rev stacks and livecode stacks in a standalone?

2013-02-05 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/5/13 12:16 PM, Richmond wrote: As far as I recall RunRev/Livecode, aprt from going through a name change, has gone through 2 stack format changes since 2.8 (maybe the first stack format change was pre 2.8 - honestly cannot remember, and I'm sure there are lots of folks here on the use-list

Re: Substitute "LiveCode" for "Scratch"

2013-02-05 Thread Jim Hurley
I saw this and my first thought for LiveCode was native Turtle Graphics talking to sprites. JIm Hurley > > Message: 18 > Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 14:57:58 +0200 > From: Richmond > To: How to use LiveCode > Subject: Re: Substitute "LiveCode" for "Scratch" > Message-ID: <511101d6.90...@gmail.com>

Re: compatability of rev stacks and livecode stacks in a standalone?

2013-02-05 Thread Mark Wieder
J. Landman Gay writes: > > [Isn't that just a lovely word: 'suffixation' ?] > > Makes me gasp for breath. :) Maybe you're thinking of affixation... -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.co

[OT] vote for my app...

2013-02-05 Thread Colin Holgate
I feel slightly cheeky in asking this, but an app that was originally due to be done in LiveCode, but that I argued should be in Flash, is up for an award. I think some of you downloaded the app anyway, and I don't think you need to own the app to vote (you do need a Twitter account). Anyway, i

Re: [OT] vote for my app...

2013-02-05 Thread Matthias Rebbe
It was me a pleasure. ;) Matthias -- Matthias Rebbe matthias (at) rebbe.tk Tel +49.5741.31 Tel +49.160.5504462 -- "Life is too short for boring code" SkypeName:matthiasrebbe Am 05.02.2013 um 20:35 schrieb Colin Holgate : > I feel slightly cheeky in asking this, but an app that was ori

Re: [OT] vote for my app...

2013-02-05 Thread Colin Holgate
Thanks (you and someone else)! They are very low voting numbers, so that was enough to put us into 5th place on our own, 10 votes away from being in 4th place. On Feb 5, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: > It was me a pleasure. ;) ___ use-l

revOnline down again?

2013-02-05 Thread Mark Wieder
I can log onto revOnline from the IDE menu, from the File menu (Share this Stack) and from a browser. But I can't update stacks or make any changes. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Pl

Re: compatability of rev stacks and livecode stacks in a standalone?

2013-02-05 Thread Richmond
On 02/05/2013 09:28 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: J. Landman Gay writes: [Isn't that just a lovely word: 'suffixation' ?] Makes me gasp for breath. :) Maybe you're thinking of affixation... Suffixes go on the end, prefixes go on the front, and infixes go somewhere in the middle. 'Affixation'

Re: [OT] vote for my app...

2013-02-05 Thread Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel
Voted twice... once via twitter and once via FB. Good luck! SKIP On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > I feel slightly cheeky in asking this, but an app that was originally due > to be done in LiveCode, but that I argued should be in Flash, is up for an > award. I think some

Re: compatability of rev stacks and livecode stacks in a standalone?

2013-02-05 Thread Peter Haworth
How about "asphyxiation". Pete lcSQL Software On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Richmond wrote: > On 02/05/2013 09:28 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > >> J. Landman Gay writes: >> >> [Isn't that just a lovely word: 'suffixation' ?] >>> Makes me gasp for breath. :) >>> >> May

Re: compatability of rev stacks and livecode stacks in a standalone?

2013-02-05 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond writes: > And we can now move to the logical corollary that as well as suffocation > we should have > 'inffocation' and 'preffocation' . . . LOL I assume that you're familiar with the work of Jasper Fforde... -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net __

Re: compatability of rev stacks and livecode stacks in a standalone?

2013-02-05 Thread Richmond
On 02/05/2013 10:16 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond writes: And we can now move to the logical corollary that as well as suffocation we should have 'inffocation' and 'preffocation' . . . LOL I assume that you're familiar with the work of Jasper Fforde... No, I'm not ffamiliar with that ma

Washington DC LiveCode User Group

2013-02-05 Thread Trevor DeVore
I'm trying to organize a Washington DC LiveCode user group. I have started a group on LinkedIn. If you are in the area and interested in getting together with other developers then please sign up. http://www.linkedin.com/groups/LiveCode-Washington-DC-User-Group-4837481 I would like to have our fi

Re: compatability of rev stacks and livecode stacks in a standalone?

2013-02-05 Thread Robert Sneidar
I was going to say, what is the grammatical significance of beginning a word or name with two F's? Is it pronounced differently than one F? Bob On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Richmond wrote: > On 02/05/2013 10:16 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: >> Richmond writes: >> >>> And we can now move to the logi

ads in the kickstarted page

2013-02-05 Thread Colin Holgate
The video that shows the differences between other languages and LiveCode is set to show Google ads. That doesn't seem right, does it? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and mana

Toronto Meetup

2013-02-05 Thread Martin Koob
Inspired by the other LiveCode meet-ups being organized recently I was wondering if there are LiveCode Developers in the Toronto and GTA area who would like to get together in the next couple of weeks. I have been offered a space to host at a local centre that supports new ventures and entrepren

Re: [OT] vote for my app...

2013-02-05 Thread Mark Wieder
Colin- Tuesday, February 5, 2013, 11:35:45 AM, you wrote: > I feel slightly cheeky in asking this, but an app that was > originally due to be done in LiveCode, but that I argued should be > in Flash, is up for an award. I think some of you downloaded the app > anyway, and I don't think you need t

Re: [OT] vote for my app...

2013-02-05 Thread Colin Holgate
I will alert the authorities. I see that it's a general concern with Twitter, and may be in the small print of every Twitter app out there: https://dev.twitter.com/discussions/1325 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please vis

OT: Jasper Fforde

2013-02-05 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Tuesday, February 5, 2013, 12:42:48 PM, you wrote: > No, I'm not ffamiliar with that man with a ffine sounding name. >From Fforde's website, a bit about the Thursday Next series of books, which I wholeheartedly recommend to anyone who still remembers what reading physical books is all

Re: ads in the kickstarted page

2013-02-05 Thread Mark Wieder
Colin- Tuesday, February 5, 2013, 3:49:26 PM, you wrote: > The video that shows the differences between other languages and > LiveCode is set to show Google ads. That doesn't seem right, does it? I'm not seeing ads. Where are they? Superimposed on the video? Before the video? Off to the side? Wh

Re: ads in the kickstarted page

2013-02-05 Thread Colin Holgate
As is common with YouTube videos, there is a yellow bar that appears in the scrubber of the video controller. It doesn't appear until after a few seconds of the video playing (the "students just get it" one). At 10 seconds an overlay ad appears. Just now I got one about audiojungle, whatever tha

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

2013-02-05 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: > There will be a commercial code escrow option too, but that will be aimed > at larger companies and be specific to their individual use of the > platform. I'm small, though. Far larger than hobbyist; will probably become a company with a half

Re: Open source, LC server and revigniter

2013-02-05 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: > This is it exactly. When selecting the license we looked very closely at > the competitive landscape. GPL will play nicely given our competitive > strengths as a desktop/mobile framework. But to do AGPL with the server > version would be a mist

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

2013-02-05 Thread Monte Goulding
On 06/02/2013, at 3:59 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: >> There will be a commercial code escrow option too, but that will be aimed >> at larger companies and be specific to their individual use of the >> platform. > > I'm small, though. > > Far lar

Re: Location via WiFi on Mobile?

2013-02-05 Thread Scott Rossi
Answering my own question... After messing around with this for several hours (and some gracious off-list suggestions from John Dixon), it seems that a delay is indeed necessary between first calling mobileStartTrackingSensor and actually trying to get the location. I wound up essentially doing t

Re: Location via WiFi on Mobile?

2013-02-05 Thread Monte Goulding
Why not handle locationChanged? Much more robust than waiting 1 second. -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 06/02/2013, at 5:35 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > mobileStartTrackingSensor "location", false > wait 1000 millisecs with messages -