Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web

2012-02-26 Thread Richmond
On 02/26/2012 06:42 AM, Judy Perry wrote: You are correct; they have NO IDEA how their file system works. I'm lucky if they can even recall what they named a file, and they pay ZERO attention to file formats. One couldn't grasp the concept of overwriting a file. Sigh. Judy On Tue, 14 Feb

Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web

2012-02-26 Thread Richmond
On 02/26/2012 06:48 AM, Judy Perry wrote: O_o Judy On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Lynn Fredricks wrote: I think you should also not underestimate the value of a predictive (and more advanced AI) system that allows other interfaces to be more simplified. So many lessons were learned starting from the l

Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web

2012-02-26 Thread Richmond
Come to think of things: Plonking a kid down in front of a computer that has NO programs on it, just RunRev/Livecode and showing her/him that, very quickly indeed, s/he can get quite a long way with getting the machine to do what one wants, is pretty good. I do this every summer; lots of cast-

Re: On-Rev Mail woes = On-Rev listed as spam!!!

2012-02-26 Thread Medard
Medard wrote: > maybe some trick from my Orange provider ;-> > [France] seems to be the matter: I sent a message from one On-Rev account to another account hosted by my ISP... I got this: === This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could n

Sound loops in iOS

2012-02-26 Thread Graham Samuel
Thanks to Ken Corey and others on this list, I am managing to play sounds in my developing iOS app quite nicely - as appears to be required, I'm playing them from a file, and I'm using 'the environment' to distinguish between the IDE and the real app (and simulator). So far so good. My current p

Re: Sound loops in iOS

2012-02-26 Thread Ken Corey
On 26/02/2012 14:10, Graham Samuel wrote: Thanks to Ken Corey and others on this list, I am managing to play sounds in my developing iOS app quite nicely - as appears to be required, I'm playing them from a file, and I'm using 'the environment' to distinguish between the IDE and the real app (

RE: Sound loops in iOS

2012-02-26 Thread John Dixon
I too couldn't get 'looping' to work with the 'play' command... however using 'iphonePlaySoundOnChannel thefile, theChannel, type' does work... on mouseUp put specialfolderpath("engine") & "/sc.mp3" into thefile iphonePlaySoundOnChannel thefile, 1, looping end mouseUp > Thanks to Ken Co

Re: Sound loops in iOS

2012-02-26 Thread Thomas McGrath III
The Play command used for iOS is a special adaptation of the regular Play command (as is described in the docs) and as such does not yet support looping when on iOS. "For more control use the iphonePlaySoundOnChannel" for looping. But meanwhile if you use the mediaPicker it only works with the P

RE: Sound loops in iOS

2012-02-26 Thread John Dixon
Tom... it does indeed say that the support has been added for a variant of the 'play' command, but also states that 'looping' works with this... You have to believe the documentation, but it does make one wonder if the command in association with 'looping' was ever tested before putting the s

[OT] How do I get rid of this LiveCode IDE startup error?

2012-02-26 Thread Len Morgan
I'm getting an error dialog box when I try and start the LiveCode IDE about a missing device or file: \Device\Hardisk4\DR4 I believe this is a Mac type description (I'm on Windows 7) and I'm sure it's got something to do with a plugin or something that I used to have. I recently had a crash

Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web

2012-02-26 Thread Geoff Canyon
We're wandering a bit here, but I disagree completely, so of course I should reply ;-) Some 100 years ago, it was considered necessary to memorize log tables. That skill is now useless. I remember (near 50 here as well) learning how to derive a square root. That skill is also useless. I agree wi

Re: [OT] How do I get rid of this LiveCode IDE startup error?

2012-02-26 Thread Mike Bonner
Write supp...@runrev.com explaining the situation including the email used to register originally, and lc version etc and they'll probably be able to set you up with a download link. On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Len Morgan wrote: > I'm getting an error dialog box when I try and start the Li

Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web

2012-02-26 Thread Richmond
On 02/26/2012 07:18 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote: We're wandering a bit here, but I disagree completely, so of course I should reply ;-) I'm not sure whether we are wandering, as there is some sort of malaise among young people if they think that knowing how to create emoticons in Facebook constitu

Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web

2012-02-26 Thread Roger Eller
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Richmond wrote: > On 02/26/2012 07:18 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote: > >> We're wandering a bit here, but I disagree completely, so of course I >> should reply ;-) >> > > I'm not sure whether we are wandering, as there is some sort of malaise > among young people > if the

Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web

2012-02-26 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Sunday, February 26, 2012, 10:14:47 AM, you wrote: > A slide-rule helps children (and adults!) visualise numbers and their > relations to one another; > a calculator does not. As does an analog clock: there's a mathematical affinity that grows out of visualizing the relationships betwe

Re: [OT] How do I get rid of this LiveCode IDE startup error?

2012-02-26 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/26/12 11:00 AM, Len Morgan wrote: I'm getting an error dialog box when I try and start the LiveCode IDE about a missing device or file: \Device\Hardisk4\DR4 I believe this is a Mac type description (I'm on Windows 7) and I'm sure it's got something to do with a plugin or something that I u

Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web

2012-02-26 Thread Richmond
On 02/26/2012 08:42 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Sunday, February 26, 2012, 10:14:47 AM, you wrote: A slide-rule helps children (and adults!) visualise numbers and their relations to one another; a calculator does not. As does an analog clock: there's a mathematical affinity that grows ou

Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web

2012-02-26 Thread Geoff Canyon
It's interesting that you bring up the slaughterhouse analogy -- I've used it on many occasions to make the opposite point: I know that cows are butchered to make steaks. I've seen videos of it, in fact. I shouldn't have to learn how to do it to order at McDonalds. There's a world of difference be

Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web

2012-02-26 Thread Richmond
On 02/26/2012 10:53 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote: It's interesting that you bring up the slaughterhouse analogy -- I've used it on many occasions to make the opposite point: I know that cows are butchered to make steaks. I've seen videos of it, in fact. I shouldn't have to learn how to do it to order a

Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web

2012-02-26 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Richmond wrote: > > Kids should learn how to think, but in the context of the >> environment they are/will operate in. >> > > Which may change at any moment; so the more things they are exposed to the > better > chance they have to adapt to whatever circumstance

Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web

2012-02-26 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Geoff wrote : I remember (near 50 here as well) learning how to derive a square root. That skill is also useless. I agree with you that "It is far more IMPORTANT that kids learn to think logically and coherently," but that doesn't at all mean that they learn a

Externals that read joystick or Kinect input?

2012-02-26 Thread tbodine
Hi, Are there externals available to read simple joystick input (button presses)? And at the more advanced end, are there externals for reading input from Kinect? Thanks, Tom Bodine -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Externals-that-read-joystick-or-Ki

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-26 Thread Graham Samuel
Just a quick two Eurocents to say that I strongly agree that we should not split up the list, and I agree with Malte's arguments. I know nothing about Linux, and like many things I know nothing about, I'm scared of it - but one day I may need to know more and if and when that happens I would wan

Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web

2012-02-26 Thread Graham Samuel
I'm (almost entirely) on Geoff's side with this. I am old enough to have worked on computers which wouldn't even boot up until some underpaid geek (me, sometimes) had put in a bootstrap program directly into the machine's RAM - this was done by flicking switches on a massive console. Output was

Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web

2012-02-26 Thread Geoff Canyon
I think I still have a slide rule stashed away somewhere. It was my step-father's. I once asked (circa 1983) in a chemistry class if slide rules were allowed in addition to calculators, and everyone's head turned. Richmond, to your point, check out what MIT is doing with Scratch Jr.: http://sc

Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web

2012-02-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
Roger Eller wrote: > Imagine if Steve Jobs (RIP) had been simply given a Mac, iPod, > iPhone, iPad when he was a child. Would he have worked to gain the basic > understanding of all the underlying parts and code that brings forth the > usefulness of those inventions? I'm somewhat reluctant to prol

[ANN] video picking and editing added to mergExt

2012-02-26 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi LiveCoders The mergAV suite of externals has grown again! The top pick on our poll was movie picking, recording, editing and saving and so we have added a new external (mergAV) to our lineup. More details on mergAV and a fresh poll with the highest ranked and new user contributed external id

Losing Linux?

2012-02-26 Thread Roger Eller
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > I'm somewhat reluctant to prolong a thread that's so off-topic during a > time when discussion of one of LiveCode's three desktop engines is > considered a candidate for exclusion here... Please enlighten us. I've noticed the lacking su

Re: Losing Linux?

2012-02-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
Roger Eller wrote: > On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> I'm somewhat reluctant to prolong a thread that's so off-topic during a >> time when discussion of one of LiveCode's three desktop engines is >> considered a candidate for exclusion here... > > Please enlighten us.

Automating Javascript Web Form Input

2012-02-26 Thread Kay C Lan
I know how to use LC to do a simple web entry like this: put URL "https://www.google.com/search?q=online+pdf+to+text+conversion"; into tHTML But how do I handle java forms? At this page: http://www.fileformat.info/convert/doc/pdf2txt.htm If I manually enter the pdf file I wish to convert, from

Re: On-Rev Mail woes = On-Rev listed as spam!!!

2012-02-26 Thread Mark Wieder
Medard- Sunday, February 26, 2012, 2:05:56 AM, you wrote: > I sent a message from one On-Rev account to another account hosted by my > ISP... I got this: the on-rev servers are in a server farm in Texas that serves other clients as well. They unfortunately share a common smtp server. You will p

Splash at the launching on android

2012-02-26 Thread Takashi Yoshino
Hi, LiveCode experts! I would like to show a Splash at the launching on android. I input a PNG file to a Splash field at the Basic Application Settings. But, there is no splash on my software on android at the launching. Do you know how to show a splash on android? _.__ ._ _. ._ ._.__ .. ._._.

Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web

2012-02-26 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Richmond wrote: > I have hacked the system > menus so NOTHING else is available at all. > > Sorry, I'm confused. Were not previous posts all about how hopeless the kids today are because they can't even fathom the file system, and here you are denying it to them.

Re: Splash at the launching on android

2012-02-26 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/26/12 7:30 PM, Takashi Yoshino wrote: Hi, LiveCode experts! I would like to show a Splash at the launching on android. I input a PNG file to a Splash field at the Basic Application Settings. But, there is no splash on my software on android at the launching. Do you know how to show a spla

Re: Splash at the launching on android

2012-02-26 Thread Takashi Yoshino
Thank you for your reply. My stack is a little bit large. It take a lot of time to show the first card. So, I want to show a splash screen. _.__ ._ _. ._ ._.__ .. ._._. _._ . ..__ ._.__ ._._. ___. .._ __.. __ .._ Takashi Yoshino http://www.wakayama-u.ac.jp/~yoshino/lab/ Tel: +81-73-457-8441

[OT] Interesting talk on Inventiveness and program feedback

2012-02-26 Thread Michael Chean
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