Re: Sad truth about iOS apps

Thanks - I hope I have the same experience as you - just bit the bullet and ordered a new iMac. Graham Sent from my iPhone > On 17 May 2020, at 18:47, Dev via use-livecode > wrote: > > No problems on two machines here with Catalina and Mail. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 17, 2020,

Re: Sad truth about iOS apps

No problems on two machines here with Catalina and Mail. Sent from my iPhone > On May 17, 2020, at 1:32 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode > wrote: > > There is a consistent tale (more than a rumour, I think) that Catalina can > mess up some people's mail messages, if you use Apple Mail. Di

Re: Sad truth about iOS apps

There is a consistent tale (more than a rumour, I think) that Catalina can mess up some people's mail messages, if you use Apple Mail. Did that affect you? It’s the thing about Catalina that scares me most - after all, we’ve had lots of warning about 32 bit apps. Graham > On 17 May 2020, at 00

Re: Sad truth about iOS apps

Replaced or just deleted any 32 bit apps I had. Opened files in 32 bit apps and converted them into something else, typically Text or PDF. Lots of files I printed to PDF and stored the PDF versions. Bought some software to open MacDraw files and save them as PDF. I had some WriteNow files that

Re: Sad truth about iOS apps

For those who upgrade to Catalina, remember you will lose any 32 bit apps as Apple has forced everyone to move to 64 bit apps. Good luck! Rick > On May 16, 2020, at 5:42 AM, Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode > wrote: > > Update: You can direclty upgrade from High Sierra to Catalina using the ma

RE: Sad truth about iOS apps

: zaterdag 16 mei 2020 10:38 To: 'How to use LiveCode' Cc: Erik Beugelaar Subject: RE: Sad truth about iOS apps First you can upgrade your 'old' MacBook Pro (before mid 2012), in your case High Sierra, to Mojave with macOS Mojave Patcher Tool. See http://dosdude1.com/software.html

RE: Sad truth about iOS apps

5 mei 2020 23:34 To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Graham Samuel Subject: Re: Sad truth about iOS apps Very sincere thanks to all who replied - I will explore all your solutions and insights. If I get that far (to make an acceptable version of my app bundle) I will also have to solve a number of e

Re: Sad truth about iOS apps

Very sincere thanks to all who replied - I will explore all your solutions and insights. If I get that far (to make an acceptable version of my app bundle) I will also have to solve a number of errors that the Loader reported. For instance: > The Key UIUUserInterfaceStyle … in the Payload/Myapp

Re: Sad truth about iOS apps

Hi Graham, Why not get one of the hackintosh "modified" images for windows and run it inside virtualbox - probably s lot of hsrdwware wont work but |I bet xcode will. https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-macos-virtualbox/ https://www.hackint0sh.org/how-to-install-macos-on-virtualbox/ https://ww

Re: Sad truth about iOS apps

I posted something I found to get round this on the Forums On Fri, May 15, 2020, 9:26 PM Tom Glod via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I've ditched LC for mobile development but > > This may help you its not great for the simulator, but for making > builds,

Re: Sad truth about iOS apps

I've ditched LC for mobile development but This may help you its not great for the simulator, but for making builds, it should work. http://www.xcodeclub.com Good luck. On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 1:20 PM Dev via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > http://f

Re: Sad truth about iOS apps

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=34097 Some other potential solutions from the forums > > On May 15, 2020 at 10:03 AM, (mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com)> wrote: > > > > As many of you will know, I have been struggling to create

Re: Sad truth about iOS apps

Or you can use LC 9.6 DP-4 for that, if you don't want to use the storyboard splash screens that are in LC 9.6 RC-1. Kind regards, Panos -- On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 20:12, panagiotis merakos wrote: > Hello Graham, > > Which LC version are you using? You **might** be able to hack the IDE to > use

Re: Sad truth about iOS apps

Hello Graham, Which LC version are you using? You **might** be able to hack the IDE to use the iOS 13 sdk, even with High Sierra. Use LC 9.6 RC-1 for this. Note: This is not recommended, so try it at your own risk. You can start with downloading Xcode 11.3 which includes the iOS SDK 13.2. Xcode

Re: Sad truth about iOS apps

Hi Graham, You might want to look at these kinds of articles: How to install Catalina on older Mac, update macOS on an old MacBook https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac-software/install-catalina-old-mac-3654960/ Peter > On May 15, 2020, at 9:02 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode > wrote: >

Re: Sad truth about iOS apps

Graham, You may be able to find a used Mac that will run Catalina. My old MacBook Pro was one of the earliest that had 64 bit processor, but when it’s battery started interfering with the trackpad, I panicked and bought a new MacBook Pro. Then I took my old MacBook Pro to be fixed and it returne

Sad truth about iOS apps

As many of you will know, I have been struggling to create an iPhone app - very unfamiliar territory for me. It’s been an education. Without help from this list and the mother ship I would have been dead in the water long ago. Finally I can see the (beta version of) the app running on my iPhone

Re: Problems with uploading iOS apps (german LC forum)

FIRST: can we open a standalone is Xcode and gets details therein? I having the same problem. on Catalina… Using Transporter, with the correct App Store provisioning profile >> ERROR ITMS-9074:"Missing Provisioning Profile - Apps must contain a >> provisioning profile in a file named embedded

Re: Problems with uploading iOS apps (german LC forum)

Hi Matthias, > Am 27.02.2020 um 18:01 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode > : > > Hi Klaus, > > Panos replied already in the forum to MichaelS just yesterday. yes, I know. > It seems MichaelS renamed the iOS app to Payload (see MichaelS´s post from > 21th January 20:03) instead of the fo

Re: Problems with uploading iOS apps (german LC forum)

Hi Klaus, Panos replied already in the forum to MichaelS just yesterday. It seems MichaelS renamed the iOS app to Payload (see MichaelS´s post from 21th January 20:03) instead of the folder where the app is stored in. Maybe MichaelS missed Panos answer. - Matthias Rebbe Life Is Too Short Fo

Problems with uploading iOS apps (german LC forum)

Hi firends, some people in the german LC forum obviously have some problems uploading their apps to Apple: > Beim Hochladen mit dem "Application Loader" sowie auch mit "Transporter" > bricht der Vorgang mit

Re: Apple Encouraging Progressive Web Apps [PWA] By Rejecting iOS Apps

I think there is a big difference between apps created with Livecode and apps created using template based services or app creation tools. There are many apps in the Google and iOS app stores which do not more than just displaying webpages. Those app just provide a browser function in a nice

Re: Apple Encouraging Progressive Web Apps [PWA] By Rejecting iOS Apps

Hi Ralph, The URL you posted wasn’t quite complete and throws a 404 error. Here is the complete URL that works. Thanks, Rick https://love2dev.com/blog/apple-encouraging-progressive-web-apps-by-rejecting-apps/ > On Aug 21, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode > wrote: > > https:

Apple Encouraging Progressive Web Apps [PWA] By Rejecting iOS Apps

I wonder how LC can fit into this new paradigm? https://love2dev.com/blog/apple-encouraging-progressive-web-apps-by-rejectin g-apps/ Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-li

Re: Analyzing Crashes on iOS Apps

Well, what we see in iTunes connect "90 crashes" is not reflected in xCode for the same app which only shows what appears to be, 6 reports. The only option offered is for me to symbolicate these and then I was able to get these six report out as text files, zipped and sent to you view support e

Re: Analyzing Crashes on iOS Apps

FWIW I learned why iTunes connect show 90 crashes, but xcode only give me 6: That's because they only offer the crash files from the past two weeks. I guess this makes sense in a way… crashes from previous builds may not be that relevant. On 12/19/17, 11:22 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of M

Re: Analyzing Crashes on iOS Apps

On 2017-12-19 21:19, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: One app report 90 crashes in iTunes connect among users who have opted in. a) sending to LC HQ If you can extract the text file versions of the logs (like you get from CrashReporter on Desktop), zip them up and attach the

Re: Analyzing Crashes on iOS Apps

For several early builds I was including iPad in SA settings but iPad users couldn't open because I did not include a splash screen to exact rect/spec. (SA builder did not object either…) I note the devices in some the of the crash report show "iPad 4th Generation Model" I wonder if the app

Re: Analyzing Crashes on iOS Apps

I think you can also get crash reports if someone quits the app under certain conditions. On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > One app report 90 crashes in iTunes connect among users who have opted in. > > How can we analyze these to make improvem

Analyzing Crashes on iOS Apps

One app report 90 crashes in iTunes connect among users who have opted in. How can we analyze these to make improvements? in xCode we can set our account preferences then go Window -- Organizer -- Crashes and xCode will fetch data for the app you have up … if click on the iOS app for your app

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

You're right, the profile is embedded in the app. I was just wondering if Xcode was doing some extra manipulation. Probably not, but you might check to be sure there are no expired profiles in keychain. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

Hi Ben, If you can successfully install the standalone using Xode (by dragging it onto the "Applications" field of your device), but you cannot do the same using the "Test" button, then this is probably a bug in mergDeploy (which is used by the "Test" button. So I suggest you file a report. Howe

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

"baked" into the app, not "backed"! On 18/09/2017 09:59, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode wrote: Hi Jacque, Thanks for helping. Check to be sure that the profile in standalone settings is the same one that XCode is using. How would that work? Surely the profile is backed into the app when t

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

Hi Jacque, Thanks for helping. Check to be sure that the profile in standalone settings is the same one that XCode is using. How would that work? Surely the profile is backed into the app when the Standalone Builder builds the standalone? (I'm not building the app with Xcode, just using it

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

On 9/16/17 1:40 PM, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode wrote: Thanks for the reply, and I certainly have had that problem often enough - but not this time. I can build a standalone, and use Xcode to install it on the phone; and it works. So I don't have a provisioning profile issue in this case.

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

Hi Mike, Thanks for the reply, and I certainly have had that problem often enough - but not this time. I can build a standalone, and use Xcode to install it on the phone; and it works. So I don't have a provisioning profile issue in this case. There's some other reason why it isn't installing

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

you've got a provisioning profile issue, so the install is failing silently. It's documented in bug report xx. To figure out what the heck is going on, do the install using xcode and you'll get the error message. After you have the PP issue resolved, testing directly on the device will work.

Testing iOS apps on attached device

It's taken me ages to get my system back together to do iOS development properly (forced to update phone, so then couldn't develop to it without latest xcode, but that required sierra, needed to not update to Sierra for a while.. bah). So finally I've got my MacBook on Sierra, I've got Xcode 1

Displayed publication date of LC iOS apps in iTunes

This is something that I’ve been wondering about for a while. Not a problem as such but it looks odd. I develop all my apps using an enterprise iOS developer license so it might be that it is peculiar to that license type but I don’t have anything to compare it to. Anyway, when I install one of

Re: 64 Bit iOS Apps

On 2017-07-24 17:16, Todd Fabacher via use-livecode wrote: Apple - "When Apple launches iOS 11 in September, the company will drop support for old 32-bit applications" We have some apps still on LiveCode version 7.14. Is this ONLY 32 bit or is it 64Bit? Will the App die if my users upgrade to

64 Bit iOS Apps

Apple - "When Apple launches iOS 11 in September, the company will drop support for old 32-bit applications" We have some apps still on LiveCode version 7.14. Is this ONLY 32 bit or is it 64Bit? Will the App die if my users upgrade to iOS 11? --Todd ___

Re: OT: https <> http | WAS Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

Klaus major-k writes: > a more appropriate page. Heh. https://major-k.de --> https://major-k.de/cgi-sys/defaultwebpage.cgi The default certificate is now owned by diesel. It's a step in the right direction, though. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: OT: https <> http | WAS Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

Hi all, FYI, here the response from on-rev support: ... Thank you for sending me this information. This was being caused by a glitch resulting from requesting a HTTPS page from the web server for a domain which was not configured to use HTTPS. This has now been fixed to direct to a more approp

Re: OT, https <> http | WAS Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

Hi Mark, > Am 12.07.2016 um 19:39 schrieb Mark Wieder : > > Klaus major-k writes: > >> I'm completely puzzled, what the hell is going on here? >> Any insights highly welcome! > > That's the problem with shared servers. > Try this in a terminal window: > > dig major-k.de > dig legacytrees.org

Re: OT, https <> http | WAS Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

Klaus major-k writes: > I'm completely puzzled, what the hell is going on here? > Any insights highly welcome! That's the problem with shared servers. Try this in a terminal window: dig major-k.de dig legacytrees.org -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com __

Re: OT: https <> http | WAS Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

I’m interested in the response too. Https requests to my on-rev site also link to legacytrees.org Paul > On Jul 12, 2016, at 5:23 AM, Klaus major-k wrote: > > Hi all, > > OK, mail sent to support, wainting for a response now, I will keep you > informed! > >> Am 12.07.2016 um 13:50 schrieb K

Re: OT: https <> http | WAS Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

When I go to either of these pages i get: Your connection is not private Attackers might be trying to steal your information from *www.kangaroo.on-rev.com * (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards). NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID Automatically repor

Re: OT: https <> http | WAS Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

Hi all, OK, mail sent to support, wainting for a response now, I will keep you informed! > Am 12.07.2016 um 13:50 schrieb Klaus major-k : > > Hi Peter, > >> Am 12.07.2016 um 13:47 schrieb Peter TB Brett : >> > On 12/07/2016 12:46, Klaus major-k wrote: >>> Hi Rolf, >>> Am 12.07.2016 um 13

Re: OT: https <> http | WAS Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

Hi Peter, > Am 12.07.2016 um 13:47 schrieb Peter TB Brett : > On 12/07/2016 12:46, Klaus major-k wrote: >> Hi Rolf, >> >>> Am 12.07.2016 um 13:36 schrieb Rolf Kocherhans : >>> >>> If I do the same I land on artisansofscotland.com :-( >>> My original page: www.kangaroo.on-rev.com >>> >>> If I g

Re: OT: https <> http | WAS Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

On 12/07/2016 12:46, Klaus major-k wrote: Hi Rolf, Am 12.07.2016 um 13:36 schrieb Rolf Kocherhans : If I do the same I land on artisansofscotland.com :-( My original page: www.kangaroo.on-rev.com If I go here: https://www.kangaroo.on-rev.com I land here: https://artisansofscotland.com

Re: OT: https <> http | WAS Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

Hi Rolf, > Am 12.07.2016 um 13:36 schrieb Rolf Kocherhans : > > If I do the same I land on artisansofscotland.com :-( > My original page: www.kangaroo.on-rev.com > > If I go here: https://www.kangaroo.on-rev.com > I land here: https://artisansofscotland.com thanks for checking, good to know

Re: OT: https <> http | WAS Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

If I do the same I land on artisansofscotland.com :-( My original page: www.kangaroo.on-rev.com If I go here: https://www.kangaroo.on-rev.com I land here: https://artisansofscotland.com Whats going on ? > Am 12.07.2016 um 12:00 schrieb use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com: > > Hi friend

OT, https <> http | WAS Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

Hi friends, I have my website at ON-REV: and inspired by the ATS discussion I was curious and just entered this into the address line of my browser: I really did not exspect anything but an error like "Not configured" or whatever, but got a

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

What does ATS mean for people using on-rev ? I am not at all familiar with this subject, therefor I have a couple of questions: Will it be a per person thing, do I have to install a cert just for me ? Or will LiveCode do this for all users ? Or will this be implemented into the cPanel ? > > Am

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

cle on TechRepublic ( >> http://www.how-to-migrate-to-https-using-app-transport-security-when-developing-ios-apps >> <http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-migrate-to-https-using-app-transport-security-when-developing-ios-apps/> >> >> ) >> >> "If yo

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

, that cannot be worked around using UIWebView. > On Jul 11, 2016, at 8:37 PM, jameshale wrote: > > According to an article on TechRepublic ( > http://www.how-to-migrate-to-https-using-app-transport-security-when-developing-ios-apps > <http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-t

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

According to an article on TechRepublic ( http://www.how-to-migrate-to-https-using-app-transport-security-when-developing-ios-apps <http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-migrate-to-https-using-app-transport-security-when-developing-ios-apps/> ) "If you're using WKWebVi

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

Paul Dupuis wrote: >>> On 12 Jul 2016, at 6:55 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: >>> >>> I wonder what happens if your app allows general browsing with, >>> say, a browser widget? > > And this is why I think what Apple is doing - regardless of the > security benefits - is wrong. Someone tell their friend

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

On 7/11/2016 5:21 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > The browser widget will be blank. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 12 Jul 2016, at 6:55 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: >> >> I wonder what happens if your app allows general browsing with, say, a >> browser widget? > And this is why I think what Apple is d

RE: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

dman Gay Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:56 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps On 7/11/2016 9:31 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: > Of course, it should be pointed out here that ATS relates to app > developers writing apps *not* general

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

The browser widget will be blank. Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Jul 2016, at 6:55 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > I wonder what happens if your app allows general browsing with, say, a > browser widget? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

On 7/11/2016 9:31 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: Of course, it should be pointed out here that ATS relates to app developers writing apps *not* general internet usage through browsers on iOS and Mac devices. i.e. Apple are saying - "if you have control over your servers and such then we expect you to

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

On 2016-07-11 16:43, Richard Gaskin wrote: HTTPS serves two purposes: one is encryption of data in transport, which may or may not be truly necessary. When when a server only hosts publicly-available information it may indeed seem overkill. I'd perhaps suggest that encryption of all internet t

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

Peter TB Brett wrote: On 11/07/2016 15:43, Richard Gaskin wrote: Paul Dupuis wrote: On 7/11/2016 7:05 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: ... Apple will be requiring ATS for all iOS apps submitted to the app store from the beginning of 2017. ... The "Let's Encrypt" project may b

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

On 11/07/2016 15:43, Richard Gaskin wrote: Paul Dupuis wrote: On 7/11/2016 7:05 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: ... Apple will be requiring ATS for all iOS apps submitted to the app store from the beginning of 2017. ... The "Let's Encrypt" project may be useful. https://letse

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

Paul Dupuis wrote: > On 7/11/2016 7:05 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: ... >> Apple will be requiring ATS for all iOS apps submitted to the app >> store from the beginning of 2017. ... >> The "Let's Encrypt" project may be useful. https://letsencrypt.org/ > >

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

Having a pass-through would work, it just always amazes me that "increased security" forces work arounds that in the end will decrease it. Forcing a developer to route all traffic through one hole in this manner so that they can actually keep things working basically sets up a huge clearinghouse t

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

On 2016-07-11 16:15, Paul Dupuis wrote: It is good to know that, at least for a time, some way to make exceptions exists. I still think, that all the benefits of HTTPS aside, taking choice away from consumers, is wrong and a "bad" move on Apple's part. They aren't taking the choice away from co

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

You (i.e. a developer who has one of these apps that scrapes from non-hhtp sites) could always provide a "relay" site that took https connections, made the request to the http site and then forwarded the end result. -- Alex. On 11/07/2016 15:13, Paul Dupuis wrote: On 7/11/2016 9:42 AM, Peter

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

On 7/11/2016 9:52 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: > Of course, Apple will likely become more and more strict over time - > but it sounds like there is still 'plenty' of time for third-party > HTTP-only services to upgrade. I imagine there will be a great deal > less time for web services owned and contr

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

On 7/11/2016 9:42 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > If taken to court, I expect Apple would show evidence of the above and > argue that they are taking much-needed steps to ensure users' security > and safety, by making sure that the data the user receives is the same > as the data that was sent, and tha

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

them over such censorship on 1st amendment (freedom of speech) grounds. It seems that Apple are putting the infrastructure in place to deal with the situations you describe: http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-migrate-to-https-using-app-transport-security-when-developing-ios-apps/ In p

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

On 11/07/2016 13:25, Paul Dupuis wrote: I truly hope someone sues them over such censorship on 1st amendment (freedom of speech) grounds. According to my recollection of judicial precedent, the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution enjoins state and federal from prior restraint of speech, and

Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

On 7/11/2016 7:05 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > Hi all, > > Many LiveCode developers currently disable (Application Transport > Security) ATS when deploying to iOS in order to access web resources > over insecure HTTP, rather than HTTPS > > Apple will be requiring ATS for all

Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

Hi all, Many LiveCode developers currently disable (Application Transport Security) ATS when deploying to iOS in order to access web resources over insecure HTTP, rather than HTTPS Apple will be requiring ATS for all iOS apps submitted to the app store from the beginning of 2017. At that

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

I have seen this, but it isn't because iOS devices are necessarily better for businesses, but it's more of a perception of security and control. Apple does a great job of marketing this. My experience with Android has never involved malware infections, and any that have shown up in the media h

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > > On 13 Aug 2015, at 5:08 am, Richard Gaskin > wrote: > > > > To put it into perspective, half of all iOS revenues go to only the top > 100 developers, and the majority of those apps are available on both > platforms. The top 1,000 deve

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

> On 13 Aug 2015, at 5:08 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > To put it into perspective, half of all iOS revenues go to only the top 100 > developers, and the majority of those apps are available on both platforms. > The top 1,000 developers consumer most of the app store revenue, with the > othe

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

Platform wars are best left for OS vendor marketing staff. Consumers don't care because they buy whatever fits their personal needs and desires. Developers don't care because most of the ones making any serious money are deploying to both. To put it into perspective, half of all iOS revenues

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

Thank you for that info, Richard. Intents is definitely a step in the right direction. ~Roger On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > I would agree that the whole process does seem rather Apple-centric at > times, but did you see the Release Notes for 7.1dp1? The LC engine

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

They're also showing that the market trends are in Androids favor as even free (ad sponsored apps) will get downloaded millions of times on android devices. Sure, if your apps are filling a niche big enough that a few thousand will buy it, you're in good shape. But if an app is rather average, a

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Roger Eller wrote: > Read this; it didn't come from Apple though. $22B iOS -vs- $19B Android. > > http://readwrite.com/2014/07/03/ios-developer-android-developer-earnings-gap > Yeah, articles like that. The initial caption about how much easier it is for a dev

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Roger Eller wrote: > If your sources are from a newsfeed on an apple device, I am not surprised > at what thoughts you are allowed to have. > Huh??? I can't eve being to figure out where the is coming from. Does apple even have a newsfeed app??? I'm not a mac

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

Read this; it didn't come from Apple though. $22B iOS -vs- $19B Android. http://readwrite.com/2014/07/03/ios-developer-android-developer-earnings-gap On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Roger Eller > wrote: > > > I think the majority of you

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

If your sources are from a newsfeed on an apple device, I am not surprised at what thoughts you are allowed to have. On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Roger Eller > wrote: > > > I think the majority of you have iOS devices > > because it is

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Roger Eller wrote: > I think the majority of you have iOS devices > because it is what you LIKE, not because it represents what the majority or > even half of the population HAVE. Inexpensive Android devices are getting > better and better specs all the time, and

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

Unfortunately the platforms are relatively different in the way they do things so it's not easy to make things exactly the same unless you whittle things down to the lowest common denominator and that's not always helpful. As far as externals goes I'm keen to help there but there's two road bloc

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

Thankfully, hardware convergence is finally coming. If the latest generation Atom processors had been around when the iPad took the world by storm, we would have seen something quite different. I can now get a fully functional Dell tablet that is lighter and thinner than an iPad, but it can run L

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

On 10/08/15 20:13, Mark Talluto wrote: On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Roger Eller wrote: I wouldn't know. Why? Because I chose LiveCode (actually MetaCard) because my code could be written only once, and it worked the same on Mac, Win, and Irix at that time. Sure there were always shell calls

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

On 10/08/15 20:00, Roger Eller wrote: I wouldn't know. Why? Because I chose LiveCode (actually MetaCard) because my code could be written only once, and it worked the same on Mac, Win, and Irix at that time. Sure there were always shell calls once in a while, but overall, the original designer

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

> On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Roger Eller wrote: > > I wouldn't know. Why? Because I chose LiveCode (actually MetaCard) > because my code could be written only once, and it worked the same on Mac, > Win, and Irix at that time. Sure there were always shell calls once in a > while, but overal

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

I wouldn't know. Why? Because I chose LiveCode (actually MetaCard) because my code could be written only once, and it worked the same on Mac, Win, and Irix at that time. Sure there were always shell calls once in a while, but overall, the original designers of the language put in some real effor

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

> I think the majority of you have iOS devices > because it is what you LIKE, not because it represents what the majority or > even half of the population HAVE. While I agree that feature (and syntax) parity is not (yet) achieved in liveCode (And why on earth do the mobile commands STILL throw er

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

Roger Eller wrote: I have to say this, because I believe ti to be true. LiveCode developers are part of the problem. I think the majority of you have iOS devices because it is what you LIKE, not because it represents what the majority or even half of the population HAVE. Inexpensive Android de

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

Roger Eller wrote: ...a term that is in the dictionary should work exactly the same across all supported platforms. Is that how it works in Microsoft Visual Studio? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

I have to say this, because I believe ti to be true. LiveCode developers are part of the problem. I think the majority of you have iOS devices because it is what you LIKE, not because it represents what the majority or even half of the population HAVE. Inexpensive Android devices are getting bet

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

It is also irritating when the assumption is always that so many features are unavailable to the Android platform, and bright shiny iOS has everything you could ever dream of. I call BS on that as all major apps out there work exactly the same on both platforms. I have never read that "Netflix ca

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

+1 Roger, +1 Pierre. On the first one, Roger, I completely agree, MORE SEAMLESS cross-platform, more attention to Android (and Win 10, etc.) is important, even if it's only because it says to the rest of the world "Cross-platform for realises". I also agree with Pierre on where the investment goes

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

Hi Roger, It’s simply no way to achieve 100% of cross platform ability as long as some features available, say, on the native Xcode’s iOS platform are not on the native Android SDK/NDK/JNI side and vice-versa ! Instead of complaining about this fact and, again, instead of limiting the cross pla

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

Although LC calls itself cross-platform, I despise the fact that commands in the dictionary, particularly for mobile, have quirks that make it a little different for Android than iOS. If it wants to call itself cross-platform, a term that is in the dictionary should work exactly the same across al

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