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be restricted to the book exercises and additional intermediate and advanced tasks for brighter students. Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Why-killing-Media-was-killing-an-investment-in-the-future-tp4652364p4652702.html Sent from the

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my purposes 100% for 7 years entirely WITHOUT support. > There is only ONE like you. (This is a compliment) :-D Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Why-killing-Media-was-killing-an-investment-in-the-future-tp4652364p4652701.html Sent from the

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was Alejandro Tejada. http://www.xaraxtreme.org/ Hoisted by your own petard me old mucker. I want to be wrong about releasing free software without support... Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Why-killing-Media-was-killing-an-investment-in-the

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cat out of the bag in a public space. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Why-killing-Media-was-killing-an-investment-in-the-future-tp4652364p4652691.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at

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On 07/23/2012 09:26 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I have two issues with that statement: "Worshipping" and "at any cost". Excuse me, that is a mouthful. Can you cite some examples of "the USA" (whatever that means specifically) "worshipping" as in raising up to the level of God, "successful people" (I

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I will use this occasion to beg for something of the order of RunRev 2.0.1 for Mac, Win and Linux to be released for FREE; possibly with a fair few of the capabilities removed. Just remember that this kind of gift is not free for RunRev, because associated cost with supporting a free version

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ob. > > Thanks in advance! > > Alejandro > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Why-killing-Media-was-killing-an-investment-in-the-future-tp4652364p4652691.html > Sent from the R

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I have two issues with that statement: "Worshipping" and "at any cost". Excuse me, that is a mouthful. Can you cite some examples of "the USA" (whatever that means specifically) "worshipping" as in raising up to the level of God, "successful people" (I need names please) "at any cost". If you ar

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bilities removed. > Just remember that this kind of gift is not free for RunRev, because associated cost with supporting a free version could go a lot higher that paid versions. But, I agree with you that a free, but limited version could be useful to attract new educators and their students.

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Huh?? Bob On Jul 21, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: > Oh, bob slylabs is posting again? What a pity. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription pr

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List-users who are NOT interested in my "Social Commentary", but are interested in what my Summer Kids did with RR/LC should scroll down to this mark: Right, Alejandro, you asked for it . . . :) Richmond wrote: [snip] Certainly in Britain (and here in Bulgaria) the end result of ye

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??? Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Why-killing-Media-was-killing-an-investment-in-the-future-tp4652364p4652647.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-liv

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On 07/20/2012 03:25 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: It's my personal opinion that we ought to be making a much bigger effort to improve education across the board, and no, more money does not accomplish that goal. Im going to dodge the political bullets I hear a buzzing in the air, Bob ;-) For any ed

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s USA students have supportive and loving parents. Well... hope was the last one to leave the Pandora Box, in which our whole world has become. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Why-killing-Media-was-killing-an-investment-in-the-future-tp4652

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It's not just that many people who develop for mobile have already settled on their tools, e.g. Java, Objective-C or in some cases the Lua based platforms. Which means for pure ease of use they prefer to stay where they are even if overall they may save time/money by switching to RR. While you can

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Probably a true worldwide diagnostic, especially applicable in France too... Le 19 juil. 2012 à 22:07, Bob Sneidar a écrit : > It's my personal opinion that we ought to be making a much bigger effort to > improve education across the board, and no, more money does not accomplish > that goal. Ca

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Le 19 juil. 2012 à 20:23, Bob Sneidar a écrit : > I think the real key to making LC insanely profitable for RR is for us, the > developers, to produce really good commercial apps on a regular basis using > LC, and proudly display on our splash screens: Made With Livecode! -- Pierre Sahores mo

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On Jul 19, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > If you haven't been to the runrev.com site lately, they have a whole section > on EDU, split into K-12 and higher ed: > That is a section on school. Homeschooled kids and self-motivated kids take

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It also reminds me of the great class sizes debate which raged in Britain for years. I forget the exact numbers but essentially simply having smaller class sizes does not always improve attainment i.e. there is a point that was optimal, beyond that the improvement in the students was minimal if at

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> It's my personal opinion that we ought to be making a much > bigger effort to improve education across the board, and no, > more money does not accomplish that goal. Im going to dodge the political bullets I hear a buzzing in the air, Bob ;-) For any education to be at its best, you need to h

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I am not sure about the situation in the US but in the UK (as noted elsewhere on the lists) there is a big drive to get kids programming again and not just using MS Word. Therefore the door is more than a little open right now for LiveCode or other tools to make their way in. For it's part LiveCode

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Bob Sneidar wrote: > I think the real key to making LC insanely profitable for RR is > for us, the developers, to produce really good commercial apps > on a regular basis using LC, and proudly display on our splash > screens: Made With Livecode! Agreed. And on the EDU front, LiveCode continues

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On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > It's my personal opinion that we ought to be making a much bigger effort to > improve > education across the board, and no, more money does not accomplish that > goal. California has one of the highest per capita budgets for education, and >

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There are still a few RevMedia kids out there and a few kids are taking over copies that siblings or cousins had been using. Dar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage you

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It's my personal opinion that we ought to be making a much bigger effort to improve education across the board, and no, more money does not accomplish that goal. California has one of the highest per capita budgets for education, and yet one of the worst records. If spending more money fixed thi

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> I need to repeat again, what I have posted before: > To gain a foothold in the schools, this platform have to > convince the leaders to use LiveCode, not the followers. I think its important to narrow down what schools you are talking about (K-12 vs else), and the relative importance of compute

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Development software has the same conundrum that new OSes do, namely that they have to pull themselves up by the bootstraps. There have to be enough developers onboard ready to release software when the OS becomes available, so that enough people will be interested in taking the plunge. Simila

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advantage, according to their developers and faithful user base." I need to repeat again, what I have posted before: To gain a foothold in the schools, this platform have to convince the leaders to use LiveCode, not the followers. Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolu

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Mark Wieder wrote: ...and do notice the final paragraph of the article: And what happens beyond Code Club? "Hopefully after two years with Code Club," Sandvik continues, "they'd be inspired to strike out on their own and explore languages like JavaScript." "...well, we started out with Scratch

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Peter Alcibiades writes: > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/schools/code-club-afterschool-group-teaches-children-how-to-become-programming-whizz-kids-7956967.html The video is hilarious. ...and do notice the final paragraph of the article: And what happens beyond Code Club? "Hopeful

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On 7/19/12 9:25 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: All that said, it's worth noting that even with only paid products and only products that require scripting, the company continues to make considerable progress in education RR also offers very attractive educational discounts for schools. -- Jacqueli

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Scratch is awesome! My 10 year old son has been programming in Scratch for 3 or 4 years now. He understands variables, loops, if then logic flow, message passing, math algorithms, sub-routine functions, a whole range of programming concepts. When he has a question that is easily solved with a sm

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It would have been nice if they could have bundled it with the Mac OS the way Hypercard was, only with certain limitations that would prevent it from being used for any serious business app creation. No standalones, no mobile apps, sqLite support only, things like that. Bob On Jul 19, 2012,

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Peter Alcibiades wrote: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/schools/code-club-afterschool-group-teaches-children-how-to-become-programming-whizz-kids-7956967.html Scratch != LiveCode Or, translated into LiveCode: Scratch <> LiveCode In that translation we see one of many reasons why

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