Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-26 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On Aug 22, 2016, at 3:16 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > And long live synonyms. And beginning sentences or sentence fragments with > conjunctions. "This is the sort of English up with which I shall not put." -- Winston Churchill -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com _

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-24 Thread Mike Kerner
It's interesting that a hit game "Human Resource Machine" is essentially teaching players to program in a type of assembly language. On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:34 AM, Richmond wrote: > Really; that's nothing; we used to program with lumps of brown, squidgy > stuff we fished > out of the open sewe

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-24 Thread Richmond
Really; that's nothing; we used to program with lumps of brown, squidgy stuff we fished out of the open sewers. Of course this probably says a lot about the standard of my coding . . . R. On 24.08.2016 01:40, Devin Asay wrote: On Aug 23, 2016, at 3:27 PM, stephen barncard wrote: Imagine wr

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Devin Asay
> On Aug 23, 2016, at 3:27 PM, stephen barncard > wrote: > > Imagine writing a Z80 disassembler in a 6502 assembler. > On Aug 23, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > > I did once have to program a machine using toggle switches. But that was as > part of a computer course in 1982, long

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread stephen barncard
Imagine writing a Z80 disassembler in a 6502 assembler. Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription p

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
. Craig -Original Message- From: stephen barncard To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Tue, Aug 23, 2016 12:34 pm Subject: Re: Strict is in; lax is out On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Richmond wrote: C "is the mother of all languages": I assume you are being extremely coarse,

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
e lamps (this was before LED's). Craig -Original Message- From: stephen barncard To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Tue, Aug 23, 2016 12:34 pm Subject: Re: Strict is in; lax is out On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Richmond wrote: C "is the mother of all languages"

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
Holereth my ass. >>>> I have not found an assembly language that I didn't like. On some >>>> processors, it's like writing in a high-level language. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:27 PM, wrote: >>>> >>>> I miss eight toggle switches with eig

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
x27;s like writing in a high-level language. On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:27 PM, wrote: I miss eight toggle switches with eight little lamps (this was before LED's). Craig -Original Message- From: stephen barncard To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Tue, Aug 23, 2016 12:34 pm Subje

RE: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Ralph DiMola
>Mike Kerner wrote: >On some processors, it's like writing in a high-level language. Like Vaxs(before Alpha risc). There are 15 addressing modes(like register auto increment) and instructions like Polynomial Evaluation and CRC. By the way I maintain an old VMS system for a customer that has bee

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Mike Kerner
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:27 PM, wrote: > > > >> I miss eight toggle switches with eight little lamps (this was before > >> LED's). > >> > >> > >> Craig > >> > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- >

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Colin Holgate
(this was before >> LED's). >> >> >> Craig >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: stephen barncard >> To: How to use LiveCode >> Sent: Tue, Aug 23, 2016 12:34 pm >> Subject: Re: Strict is in; lax is out >> >> On Tue

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Mike Kerner
;> I miss eight toggle switches with eight little lamps (this was before >>> LED's). >>> >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: stephen barncard >>> To: How to use LiveCode

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
23, 2016 at 1:27 PM, wrote: I miss eight toggle switches with eight little lamps (this was before LED's). Craig -Original Message- From: stephen barncard To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Tue, Aug 23, 2016 12:34 pm Subject: Re: Strict is in; lax is out On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:41 A

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
Well, I've forgotten more Zilog than young I have eaten. Do I regret forgetting it? Do I feel a great sense of loss? Not a bit of it: in fact I was "born again" through xTalk languages. Richmond "Dvija Bandhu" Mathewson. On 23.08.2016 19:34, stephen barncard wrote: On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Mike Kerner
little lamps (this was before > LED's). > > > Craig > > > > -Original Message- > From: stephen barncard > To: How to use LiveCode > Sent: Tue, Aug 23, 2016 12:34 pm > Subject: Re: Strict is in; lax is out > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:41 A

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread dunbarx
I miss eight toggle switches with eight little lamps (this was before LED's). Craig -Original Message- From: stephen barncard To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Tue, Aug 23, 2016 12:34 pm Subject: Re: Strict is in; lax is out On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Richmond wrote: &g

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread stephen barncard
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Richmond wrote: > C "is the mother of all languages": I assume you are being extremely > coarse, > > because C is not the "Mummy" of all languages. > the most granular of all computer languages are the hex opcodes that drive your favorite processor of choice...

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
C "is the mother of all languages": I assume you are being extremely coarse, because C is not the "Mummy" of all languages. Richmond. On 23.08.2016 17:57, Bob Sneidar wrote: Err... Wh??? Bob S On Aug 22, 2016, at 21:21 , Erik Beugelaar mailto:beugel...@solidit.nl>> wrote: Shortly, In

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Bob Sneidar
Err... Wh??? Bob S On Aug 22, 2016, at 21:21 , Erik Beugelaar mailto:beugel...@solidit.nl>> wrote: Shortly, In my opinion you should always have a good knowledge of C (strict typed) because it is the mother of all languages ___ use-livecode mail

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Mike Kerner
Golf clap for Jerry. On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:22 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami < bra...@hindu.org> wrote: > m...@jerrydaniels.com> wrote: > > Exactly, Mike. I remembered the exclamation mark. But I was exercising > my laxness. > > LOL (good one…) > > We live in laxness land (Hawaii) and my

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-22 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
m...@jerrydaniels.com> wrote: Exactly, Mike. I remembered the exclamation mark. But I was exercising my laxness. LOL (good one…) We live in laxness land (Hawaii) and my coding is even more lax. (always in need of optimization…) I can't even get myself to turn on explicitVars. But I am su

RE: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-22 Thread Erik Beugelaar
:40 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Strict is in; lax is out Exactly, Mike. I remembered the exclamation mark. But I was exercising my laxness. On Aug 22, 2016, 3:36 PM -0500, Mike Kerner , wrote: > I was going to mention CompileIt! and Double-XX!, as well (you forgot > the excla

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-22 Thread me
Exactly, Mike. I remembered the exclamation mark. But I was exercising my laxness. On Aug 22, 2016, 3:36 PM -0500, Mike Kerner , wrote: > I was going to mention CompileIt! and Double-XX!, as well (you forgot the > exclamation points). I wasn't overjoyed with the restrictions, but I was > at not h

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-22 Thread Mike Kerner
I was going to mention CompileIt! and Double-XX!, as well (you forgot the exclamation points). I wasn't overjoyed with the restrictions, but I was at not having to use Think C to make externals, any more. On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 4:30 PM, wrote: > With builder the LC platform is becoming almost

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-22 Thread me
With builder the LC platform is becoming almost like a meta OS. Before it was great at the high an mid level. Now we get lower level and extensibility. I felt the same way when CompileIt came along for HyperCard. Like then, I have no interest in foregoing LC scripting. On Aug 22, 2016, 3:21 PM

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: > language: something that Livecode has inherited. Please do not chuck > that out. Nothing to worry about, Richmond. LiveCode Script and LiveCode Builder are different languages for different purposes. As an extensibility subsystem, LC Builder benefits from being more restri

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-22 Thread Richmond
What I like about Livecode is that it has a multiplicity of ways of achieving things. I have just rescued my BBC Master Compact from Scotland and bought a cable that connects its video-out to a SCART socket: I had forgotten about the 'LET' statement . . . I feel that strict variable declarat

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-22 Thread Roger Eller
> "LCB is less bad than most other languages" lol On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > I can't stand strict. That's part of the reason why I choose to use LC > instead of C. I would rather have to find and fix typos in variable names > than have to coerce type changes when I

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-22 Thread Mike Kerner
ing work. > > On Aug 22, 2016, 12:39 PM -0500, dunb...@aol.com, wrote: > > Everything you say is true, modern and relevant. > > > > > > That said, long live lax. > > > > > > Craig Newman > > > > > > > > -----Original Message- &

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-22 Thread me
--Original Message- > From: me To: LiveCode List Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2016 12:34 pm > Subject: Strict is in; lax is out > > With the advent of LCB, 'strict' is becoming the watchword in the v8 era. I > applaud this new direction. Yes, there's short term discomfort

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-22 Thread dunbarx
Everything you say is true, modern and relevant. That said, long live lax. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: me To: LiveCode List Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2016 12:34 pm Subject: Strict is in; lax is out With the advent of LCB, 'strict' is becoming the watchword in the

Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-22 Thread me
With the advent of LCB, 'strict' is becoming the watchword in the v8 era. I applaud this new direction. Yes, there's short term discomfort with LCB (learning curve), but in the near-to-long term I believe there will be huge dividends paid to developers with high performance, low maintenance apps