Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-29 Thread Robert Sneidar
Sorry Kevin. I went down the list before posting: Religion? no... Politics? not really. Cheese? Unless they are firing cheese bullets, not. Okay good to post! Apparently not, so I have taken this off list. Thanks for your patience. Bob On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: > Ah

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-29 Thread Kevin Miller
Ah yes, as is longstanding policy, we have established that discussions that mention cheese are not such a good thing. Time to stop this thread I think. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 22:22, "Björnk

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-29 Thread Björnke von Gierke
cheese On 29.01.2013, at 23:07, Peter Haworth wrote: > Where are you getting your information from Bob? > > Pete > lcSQL Software > > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: > >> Peter, I said Assault Weapons, or as some call them Semi-automatic rifle

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-29 Thread Peter Haworth
Where are you getting your information from Bob? Pete lcSQL Software On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: > Peter, I said Assault Weapons, or as some call them Semi-automatic rifles. > Handguns are a whole other matter. The majority of handgun murders

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-29 Thread Robert Sneidar
Peter, I said Assault Weapons, or as some call them Semi-automatic rifles. Handguns are a whole other matter. The majority of handgun murders are committed by known gang members in inner cities. My point is, making guns illegal is not going to stop these people from getting guns, anymore than e

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-29 Thread Peter Haworth
Sorry, but I can't let that pass. Every time the subject of gun control comes up in the press, completely unfounded statements are thrown around by the like of the NRA and others who are against gun control, and the baseball bat/hammer is one of them. According to the FBI 2011 stats, weapons used

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-29 Thread Robert Sneidar
Oh great Jacque! There goes my soapbox! Thanks a lot!!! ;-) Bob On Jan 27, 2013, at 11:23 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > This puts a bit more perspective on it: > > > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay ___

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-29 Thread Robert Sneidar
I was shocked to find out that far fewer people are killed with semi-automatic rifles (called Assault weapons) than with hammers or baseball bats. No one would ever think of even registering who has a hammer or baseball bat! Never mind making them illegal. New laws will solve nothing. If it be

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-27 Thread J. Landman Gay
This puts a bit more perspective on it: -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-27 Thread Richmond
On 01/27/2013 08:42 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: "Was" the operative word there. Historically laws start out with the intent of creating an ordered society to the end that the law abiding will be safe and free. As time goes on it seems people who love power turn the law in to a means to control an

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-27 Thread Richmond
On 01/27/2013 08:38 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: I fear a great many more things are going to become illegal that ought not to be as time goes on. Bob I have a small pocket knife that I bought when I was about 7 years old; only really any good for slitting envelopes, slicing apples and (at a pu

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-27 Thread Robert Sneidar
"Was" the operative word there. Historically laws start out with the intent of creating an ordered society to the end that the law abiding will be safe and free. As time goes on it seems people who love power turn the law in to a means to control and subjugate the general populace. Bob On Jan

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-27 Thread Robert Sneidar
I fear a great many more things are going to become illegal that ought not to be as time goes on. Bob On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Wow... > > http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/now-illegal-unlock-cellphone/story?id=18319518 > > -- > -Mark Wieder > mwie...@ahsoftware.net

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-27 Thread Andre Garzia
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:09 AM, Richmond wrote: > Ha,Ha,Ha . . . > > No wonder you have a Bulgarian for President :/ > Wait Are you telling me that we actually have a government here??? :-D -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening se

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-26 Thread Richmond
On 01/27/2013 12:10 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: On another news its illegal not to offer an option to unlock your phone in Brazil. You can go to any carrier shop and ask "please, unlock my phone" and they must do it. Brazil, land of FOSS Ha,Ha,Ha . . . No wonder you have a Bulgarian for President

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-26 Thread Gerry Orkin
Andre wrote: > So in effect, all phones are a step away from > being unlocked. That's the situation in Australia too. Happily. Gerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manag

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-26 Thread Colin Holgate
That's effectively the way things already work with AT&T, except that you only get permission to do the unlock after you have completed most of your contract. AT&T let me unlock my old iPhone 4, which I sold to a colleague for him to use on another network. On Jan 26, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Andre G

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-26 Thread David C.
> http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/now-illegal-unlock-cellphone/story?id=18319518 > > -- > -Mark Wieder As the owner of an unlocked original iPhone (now being used as an iPod), I feel the same way on this issue as I do when it comes to any other kind of bundling of hardware along with software and

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-26 Thread Peter Haworth
That's more sensible Andre. I think most countries do it that way, or something similar, but the US had to do its own thing of course - government by lobbying! Pete lcSQL Software On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: > Peter, > > Here in Brazil, carrier st

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-26 Thread Andre Garzia
Peter, Here in Brazil, carrier still give you discounted rates on phones if you apply for a long term plan. They may still give you a locked phone but they must unlock it if you ask. So in effect, all phones are a step away from being unlocked. Still, you're locked to the carrier because of long t

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-26 Thread Peter Haworth
Actually, I'm surprised it's not already illegal, at least in terms of breaking your contract with the provider.. As mentioned in the article, in return for using a carrier's network exclusively, you get the phone either for free or at a highly discounted rate. If you want the freedom of using an

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-26 Thread Andre Garzia
On another news its illegal not to offer an option to unlock your phone in Brazil. You can go to any carrier shop and ask "please, unlock my phone" and they must do it. Brazil, land of FOSS On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Richmond wrote: > On 01/26/2013 10:58 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > >> Wow...

Re: Now illegal to unlock your cellphone (U.S.)

2013-01-26 Thread Richmond
On 01/26/2013 10:58 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Wow... http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/now-illegal-unlock-cellphone/story?id=18319518 Somebody told me the USA was "the land of the free"; obviously not. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livec