Re: Livecode Future - End User Cost Extravaganza

2024-07-29 Thread Kevin Miller via use-livecode
We have discussed internally whether to produce an option without the Cloud backend for Create. We're not going to do it. It would create additional engineering costs, confusion about the offering for new users and a lot of the value in Create is elsewhere in the redevelopments we've done not ju

Re: Livecode Future - End User Cost Extravaganza

2024-07-29 Thread Kevin Miller via use-livecode
Don't forget we have videos that explain both the rationale and the model. https://future.livecode.com Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Build Amazing Things On 28/07/2024, 1

Re: Livecode Future - End User Cost Extravaganza

2024-07-29 Thread Sean Cole via use-livecode
Seriously, Curry, you are so good at summing these things up. It's what makes you such a great writer and consultant no doubt. I hope you are heard through this mist. On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 at 23:21, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Skip: > > > Wow… just c

Re: Livecode Future - End User Cost Extravaganza

2024-07-28 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Skip: > Wow… just catching up on this thread ... more confused than ever! Yes; big licensing changes, huge threads with generic subject lines. Quick Recap with quotes from Buy and FAQ: - 2 main licensing models: 'Internal Users' and 'Apps for Sale.' - Apps for Sale: developer seat(s) + '5% o

Re: Livecode Future - End User Cost Extravaganza

2024-07-28 Thread Skip Kimpel via use-livecode
Wow… just catching up on this thread, and I have to say, I am more confused than ever! Not sure the licensing model needed to be this complicated and questioning if LC even knows who its end user is and what we are developing. I don’t mean to be trouble here, and I am probably misconstruing fa

Re: Livecode Future - End User Cost Extravaganza

2024-07-27 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Mike: > $440/device is not happening. even $100/device is not happening. > we are not paying $100/employee so they can run our payroll app, > for instance, on their phone. Well said! You summed it up perfectly. Thanks. What LC tier would work for you? My experience ... Consulting clients, bi