Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-12-06 Thread BNig
Mark Waddingham-2 wrote > On 2016-12-03 01:47, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> If someone's smart enough to develop software, they're probably smart >> enough to figure out how to grab a resize handle and make a graphic >> larger. :) > > I think that was the problem - and why the check was present. (Of

Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-12-06 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2016-12-03 01:47, Richard Gaskin wrote: If someone's smart enough to develop software, they're probably smart enough to figure out how to grab a resize handle and make a graphic larger. :) I think that was the problem - and why the check was present. (Of course, the check should only ever h

Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-12-05 Thread BNig
Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote > Hmm, I was under the impression that it was scripted using the > "clone" command. I'd forgotten about option-drag... > > ...but that's also done with the pointer tool, not the graphic tool. > So checking the tool would also exempt that case from auto-resizing > small

Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-12-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: > At 12:23 PM -0800 12/2/2016, Richard Gaskin wrote: >>I believe the original post here was about cloning, presumably done >>via Option+drag (on macOS, or Cntrl+drag on Win and Linux). > > Hmm, I was under the impression that it was scripted using the > "clone" command.

Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-12-02 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 12:23 PM -0800 12/2/2016, Richard Gaskin wrote: I believe the original post here was about cloning, presumably done via Option+drag (on macOS, or Cntrl+drag on Win and Linux). Hmm, I was under the impression that it was scripted using the "clone" command. I'd forgotten about option-drag...

Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-12-02 Thread mwieder
In any event, if there's going to be a size trap, I don't believe it belongs in the backscript newGraphic handler. If the intention of the minimum size restriction is to prevent accidental double-clicks, there are better ways to deal with that situation. - -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.

Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-12-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: > At 3:02 AM -0800 12/2/2016, BNig wrote: >> It seems the consensus is to lower the threshold when graphics are >> changed to default sizes. I will do an enhancement request next week >> and propose that the currrent threshold of 8 by 8 and lower will be >> reduced to 5

Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-12-02 Thread hh
Yet another option is a 0.618 x 0.618 pixels threshold. I definitely need that when using a HiRes display ;-) "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." (Douglas Adams)

Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-12-02 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 3:02 AM -0800 12/2/2016, BNig wrote: It seems the consensus is to lower the threshold when graphics are changed to default sizes. I will do an enhancement request next week and propose that the currrent threshold of 8 by 8 and lower will be reduced to 5 by 5 and lower. Is there any reason n

Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-12-02 Thread BNig
Richard Gaskin wrote > Michael Julian Lew wrote: > > > Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> BNig wrote: > >>> that is determined somewhat arbitrarily by the > >>> revBackScriptLibrary in handler > >>> > >>> on newGraphic > >>> if the width of the target < 9 and the height of the target < 9 then > >>

Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-12-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Michael Julian Lew wrote: > Richard Gaskin wrote: >> BNig wrote: >>> that is determined somewhat arbitrarily by the >>> revBackScriptLibrary in handler >>> >>> on newGraphic >>> if the width of the target < 9 and the height of the target < 9 then >>> use default values >>> >> Would that be

Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-12-01 Thread Michael Julian Lew
Seems to me that if the current restriction on the result of “clone” is intended to prevent possible problems when tools palette is being used then a very bad design decision was made. A solution should not affect what happens when the user clones an abject that is already in the stack. The scr

Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-12-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: > At 7:39 AM -0800 12/1/2016, Richard Gaskin wrote: >>BNig wrote: >>> that is determined somewhat arbitrarily by the >>> revBackScriptLibrary in handler >>> >>> on newGraphic >>> if the width of the target < 9 and the height of the target < 9 then >> > use

Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-12-01 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 7:39 AM -0800 12/1/2016, Richard Gaskin wrote: BNig wrote: Scott Rossi wrote It's wrong but it's always been like this. LC doesn't like graphics >> smaller than 9 pixels. > that is determined somewhat arbitrarily by the revBackScriptLibrary in handler on newGraphic if the width

Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-12-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
BNig wrote: > Scott Rossi wrote >> It's wrong but it's always been like this. LC doesn't like graphics >> smaller than 9 pixels. >> >> Regards, >> >> Scott Rossi > > that is determined somewhat arbitrarily by the revBackScriptLibrary in > handler > > on newGraphic > if the width of the target <

Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-12-01 Thread BNig
Scott Rossi wrote > It's wrong but it's always been like this. LC doesn't like graphics > smaller than 9 pixels. > > Regards, > > Scott Rossi that is determined somewhat arbitrarily by the revBackScriptLibrary in handler on newGraphic if the width of the target < 9 and the height of the tar

Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-11-30 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Was the graphic locked? Richmond. On 12/1/16 2:48 am, Michael Julian Lew wrote: When I clone a graphic (an 8 by 8 pixel oval) in LiveCode 8.1.1 the copy comes out at the default size for a new oval, 120 by 120. That would not be a clone, in my opinion. Is it correct behaviour? Michael _

Re: Clone graphic does not respect dimensions

2016-11-30 Thread Scott Rossi
It's wrong but it's always been like this. LC doesn't like graphics smaller than 9 pixels. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media UX/UI Design > On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Michael Julian Lew > wrote: > > When I clone a graphic (an 8 by 8 pixel oval) in LiveCode 8.1.1 the cop