Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-18 Thread Richmond
On 18/08/15 16:07, Peter W A Wood wrote: Richmond Does "after LiveCode 8" mean "8.1" or does it mean "9 or maybe 10"? Because that could make quite a difference. It means that I don’t think it is going to be in any of the LiveCode 8.xx releases based on my memory of snippets of information o

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-18 Thread Peter W A Wood
Richmond > Does "after LiveCode 8" mean "8.1" or does it mean "9 or maybe 10"? Because > that could make quite a difference. It means that I don’t think it is going to be in any of the LiveCode 8.xx releases based on my memory of snippets of information on this list and in the forums. (Which c

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-18 Thread Richmond
On 18/08/15 05:12, Peter W A Wood wrote: I have updated my KickStarter report card thanks to the information about the new player for Windows being planned for LiveCode 8.0 that Tom Bodine kindly provided. As I understand, the phrase “new visual editor” refers to the new IDE. LIVECODE KICKSTA

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-18 Thread Roger Eller
You'd think that a software company would make the dictionary available as a searchable e-book too, if not an actual mobile app for all supported platforms, and made with LiveCode itself. On Aug 18, 2015 3:22 AM, "Peter W A Wood" wrote: > > LIVECODE KICKSTARTER REPORT CARD -Version 4 > > The firs

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-18 Thread Peter W A Wood
LIVECODE KICKSTARTER REPORT CARD -Version 4 The first thing to note is that LiveCode Ltd has open-sourced LiveCode under the GPL licence. It is freely accessible on Github. The second thing to note is that the majority of the Kickstarter rewards have been delivered. Only delivery of printed co

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-18 Thread Peter W A Wood
Matthias > On 18 Aug 2015, at 14:32, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D > wrote: > > > > >> Am 18.08.2015 um 04:45 schrieb Peter W A Wood : >> >> There have been quite a few comments and clearly a number of different views >> amongst members of the community. I would like to add my perspective. >> >>

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D
> Am 18.08.2015 um 04:45 schrieb Peter W A Wood : > > There have been quite a few comments and clearly a number of different views > amongst members of the community. I would like to add my perspective. > > The LiveCode Kickstarter campaign was very unusual in that the LiveCode could > fulfi

RE: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> "If your app includes FOSS, it must not cause any > non-FOSS Microsoft > software to become subject to the terms of any FOSS license." > Although Microsoft didn't name it, it's talking about GPL. > > But is it? GPL v2 and v3 are both on the OSI list of "approved" > licenses (what

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter W A Wood wrote: > I believe that the statement “ it must not cause any non-FOSS > Microsoft software to become subject to the terms of any FOSS > license.” would specifically exclude the use of GPL licensed software > -

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Peter W A Wood
Richard > On 18 Aug 2015, at 12:51, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Peter W A Wood wrote: > > > I interpreted this clause from the latest Windows Store App Developer > > Agreement, to mean that GPL software cannot be sold via the App Store: > > > > d. FOSS Software. If your App includes FOSS, (i) y

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter W A Wood wrote: > I interpreted this clause from the latest Windows Store App Developer > Agreement, to mean that GPL software cannot be sold via the App Store: > > d. FOSS Software. If your App includes FOSS, (i) you are > responsible for compliance with all applicable FOSS license terms,

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Peter W A Wood
> On 18 Aug 2015, at 11:29, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Peter W A Wood wrote: > > > After all, it looks to me that you cannot sell GPL licensed software > > through the Windows App Store > > I couldn't find anything definitive on that. I did find some older articles > about Win8 licensing

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter W A Wood wrote: > After all, it looks to me that you cannot sell GPL licensed software > through the Windows App Store I couldn't find anything definitive on that. I did find some older articles about Win8 licensing suggesting FOSS was prohibited, but I also found this one from 2011

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter W A Wood wrote: > Does anybody still think it is worth LiveCode supporting Windows > 8 Phone? If you and I bought Win8 phones to test with we'd double the installed base. :) I don't think there's a need for Win *phone* per se, but we do need touch support on Windows, and Ubuntu as well

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Peter W A Wood
Monte > On 18 Aug 2015, at 10:52, Monte Goulding wrote: > > >> On 18 Aug 2015, at 12:45 pm, Peter W A Wood wrote: >> >> PS Does anybody still think it is worth LiveCode supporting Windows 8 Phone? > > Nope… I presume the goal will be bumped to Windows 10??? Perhaps there is no need for a re

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Roger Eller
I think MS learned a valuable lesson from RT with its limited subset of apps written for the ARM CPU. Modern MS tablets are using the new quad-core Atom which is Intel. It will even run LiveCode on a tablet! If Windows phone does the same, there's no reason not to support it. On Aug 17, 2015 10:

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Mike Bonner
Windows 8? No. 10? Yeah probably. If LC can be updated to be compliant with the UAP (universal app platform) If I understand correctly, dong that means it'll run on win 10, win 10 phones etc. Not sure how the backwards compatibility works though, and its possible I am way off base here too. On M

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 18 Aug 2015, at 12:45 pm, Peter W A Wood wrote: > > PS Does anybody still think it is worth LiveCode supporting Windows 8 Phone? Nope… I presume the goal will be bumped to Windows 10??? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Peter W A Wood
There have been quite a few comments and clearly a number of different views amongst members of the community. I would like to add my perspective. The LiveCode Kickstarter campaign was very unusual in that the LiveCode could fulfil all of the rewards without actually having to complete the proje

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Peter W A Wood
I forgot to add the most important promise … LiveCode being open-sourced … as kindly pointed out by Jacque Landman Gay. LIVECODE KICKSTARTER REPORT CARD The first thing to note is that all the Kickstarter rewards have been delivered. The second thing to note is that LiveCode has open-sourced Li

Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Peter W A Wood
I have updated my KickStarter report card thanks to the information about the new player for Windows being planned for LiveCode 8.0 that Tom Bodine kindly provided. As I understand, the phrase “new visual editor” refers to the new IDE. LIVECODE KICKSTARTER REPORT CARD The first thing to note i