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On 1/23/13 4:44 PM, As_Simon wrote: J. Landman Gay wrote Since the client will be creating the video, my current thinking is to create two versions, one in WMP native format and another in QT format. The software will download the right one according to platform. That seems the simplest way. The

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of both WMP and > QT in the end. > > Simon > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/More-about-audio-video-tp4659056p4659424.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

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On 1/23/13 3:31 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: To say it needs to be portable, play audio and video, and you cannot require the installation of any software is perhaps a bridge to far. Given the nature of the software though, the requirement is legitimate. Does any other development environment h

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I think poor Jacque is in one of those situations where the requirements for her project are self contradictory. An extreme example might be if someone wanted me to write a game that was completely portable, and required advanced 3D graphics capabilities, but had to work without requiring the us

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On Jan 23, 2013 12:07 AM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > > On 1/22/13 10:56 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: >> >> On 1/22/13 9:46 PM, Roger Eller wrote: >>> >>> I think MPEG1 & 2, as well as AVI. >> >> >> It can't just be MPEG1 and 2, can it? >> > > Never mind, I see that's exactly what you meant. MPEG 1 and

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That list continues to support what I've argued, in that they don't list MPEG-2 as a built in codec. For what it's worth, WMV 9 is a decent codec. On Jan 22, 2013, at 10:46 PM, Roger Eller wrote: > I think MPEG1 & 2, as well as AVI. > > If playing externally, Microsoft has a list. I would ho

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On 1/22/13 10:56 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 1/22/13 9:46 PM, Roger Eller wrote: I think MPEG1 & 2, as well as AVI. If playing externally, Microsoft has a list. I would hope that most people have moved past Win95 to Win2k. Assuming a minimum of XP, here's what should work without installing ad

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On 1/22/13 9:46 PM, Roger Eller wrote: I think MPEG1 & 2, as well as AVI. If playing externally, Microsoft has a list. I would hope that most people have moved past Win95 to Win2k. Assuming a minimum of XP, here's what should work without installing additional software: http://support.microsoft

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I think MPEG1 & 2, as well as AVI. If playing externally, Microsoft has a list. I would hope that most people have moved past Win95 to Win2k. Assuming a minimum of XP, here's what should work without installing additional software: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899113 If you install VLC, you c

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I'm still not sure which video formats are supported in LiveCode on Windows machines that don't have QuickTime. Does anyone have a list? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___

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bble.com/My-poll-for-externals-the-quot-punchline-quot-td4656532.html Have a nice weekend! Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/More-about-audio-video-tp4659056p4659181.html Sent from the Revolution - User mail

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Hi friends, Am 18.01.2013 um 21:51 schrieb Alejandro Tejada : > Hi Stephen, > > Stephen Barncard-4 wrote >> VLC is also apple-scriptable. > Some months ago, Klaus Major posted > a message asking for developers interested > in a VLC dll for LiveCode. > What happened with this DLL? Klaus? sorry,

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Yes, exactly. Anyone who doesn't have a DVD-ROM drive and bundled DVD-Video software, or gone to the trouble of installing MPEG-2 playback by some other means, would end up having to install something. QuickTime is probably the easiest thing to require, because of the millions of users who have

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Right. But wasn't the question about being able to play audio and video cross platform without having to make the user install anything? Also, I have played ripped DVD content off my hard drive, and the format of the ripped video is MPEG2, so strictly speaking, you don't *have* to play MPEG2 off

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On 1/18/13 2:57 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi Jacque, J. Landman Gay wrote I've been testing in Windows 7 without QuickTime installed to see how video and audio files work in a player object. [snip] I need a video format that will play in Windows without QT. Which of the many others should I

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m, or if you need to create a different one for Windows XP, Vista, 7 and Aero... Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/More-about-audio-video-tp4659056p4659141.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list a

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deo window floating above a fullscreen stack. It looks... different, but that was the way in which video was played in many old multimedia apps. Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/More-about-audio-video-tp4659056p4659139.html Sent from

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MPEG-2 isn't needed to use DVD-ROMs. It is needed to play DVD-Video. The license for MPEG-2 is covered in the cost of the software that you buy for playing DVDs. You may well get bundled software, and so the cost is hidden from you. I think that each way of playing back DVD-Video will have its o

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Righto. That's one of the commercial apps that uses it. p On 1/18/13 11:05 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: Hi Phil, I use ffmpeg too and I found a GUI interface to it - ffmpegx, available at http://www.ffmpegx.com/ Pete lcSQL Software On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Phil Dav

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Hi Phil, I use ffmpeg too and I found a GUI interface to it - ffmpegx, available at http://www.ffmpegx.com/ Pete lcSQL Software On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Phil Davis wrote: > One tool l I have found to be almost magical in its media conversion > capabilities is ff

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Really? My mistake then I as under the impression that this was included in all operating systems because they will need to play DVD ROM's. Bob On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > MPEG-2 isn't really an option. Only systems that have DVD-ROMs, and DVD-Video > playing software

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One tool l I have found to be almost magical in its media conversion capabilities is ffmpeg. It's open source, cross-platform, command-line only, but is used as the "engine" in a number of commercial apps. Also, it has a serious learning curve. But a good tool if it's what you need. We use it

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Good to know too. Thanks ! Le 18 janv. 2013 à 04:53, stephen barncard a écrit : > Vimeo, than to depend on > one's own servers. $60/year buys up to 5 gigs of video a month. -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-liv

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Thanks for the info, Stephen ! Will need to test it ... Le 18 janv. 2013 à 04:53, stephen barncard a écrit : > And if one ends up using a browser for displaying video content, then I've > found the JW Player at Longtail to be the the best imbedded player > available today. -- Pierre Sahores mobi

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VLC is also apple-scriptable. Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

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MPEG-2 isn't really an option. Only systems that have DVD-ROMs, and DVD-Video playing software, would be able to play MPEG-2. In the Windows world it's not unusual for people to find illegal ways around that, and on Mac you have the option of buying the $20 MPEG-2 playback component, but overall

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As far as serving video, my experiments have shown that it is often better to use a service that does it for a living, like Vimeo, than to depend on one's own servers. $60/year buys up to 5 gigs of video a month. Far better than youtoob. And if one ends up using a browser for displaying video cont

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Just follow Bob on this : about audio, don't search any best way than mp3. Will works as expected against any end-user target. I'm not so sure as Bob is about mp2 indeed : lowest compression than mp4 and its useful H264 declinaison. Le 18 janv. 2013 à 03:52, Robert Sneidar a écrit : > Lowest co

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As an example, avi encodes mp4. Just to point out that codecs and the ways video contents are encoded are always two distinct things. If you can use a javascript to test the end user installed OS, you will get way to serve the adapted video format for each different target. Not a painless confi

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J. There's one open source app that might be ripe for imbedding: VLC http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html cross-platform, the source is available, and if one can open a window from the command line This idea was inspired a little mac app called NICECAST. A beautiful mac front end with a

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Lowest common denominator then. For audio, use mp3. For video, mpeg2. Just about every modern os supports those 2 out of the box. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Calvary Chapel CM Sent from iPhone On Jan 17, 2013, at 18:38, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > Thanks for all the responses. The audio/video files

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If need be, can you use something other than LiveCode to solve the problem? A Flash projector ought to be able to work, and doesn't rely on any system software to be able to play H.264 video, along with high quality AAC audio. Or, if you can require that the system has Flash Player (which most s

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Thanks for all the responses. The audio/video files will be prepared by my client and served over the internet to customers. We have control over the format, the names, whatever is needed. The catch is that the people who will be viewing the media can be on any computer, often one they don't o

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Jacque, The best is always to test different outputs formats in using MPEGStreamclip (-> Windows formats), Handbrake (MacOS X / Linux formats), QT7 Pro (see export features) and QT 10 (m4v outputs). MPEG1 and MPEG2 are mainly reserved to TV broadband outputs, not featured as web dedicated. Sure

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It's been a long time since I dealt with this, but last I checked, MPEG1 and maybe MPEG2 worked cross platform. As Mark said, file extension doesn't always correspond with the encoding of a video file. If you have control over the format of the videos to played, then you should have no trouble. B

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Do you mean Codecs? To answer your question, yes and no. If you never use WMP, you will probably not have a lot of codecs it supports. Even if you do, you may not have all of them. While the audio codec would probably be installed as a dll in Windows somewhere, and so be an OS function, some app

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Hush! You are not implying Microsoft would develop a proprietary codec that only their player could use?? What self respecting corporation would even think of such a thing??? Bob On Jan 17, 2013, at 3:34 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > J. Landman Gay writes: > >> In the Media Player app itself, al

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On 1/17/13 5:08 PM, Alex Shaw wrote: Hi Jacqueline If you don't need streaming you could try MPEG-1 video files. I don't know if we'll need streaming yet, so I'll keep this in mind. I didn't test MPEG-1 files yet, so we'll see. Maybe it's moot. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...

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On 1/17/13 5:34 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: J. Landman Gay writes: In the Media Player app itself, all the above formats play perfectly. I did not need to download any extra codecs, not even for .mov files. It gets worse. You can't rely on just the file extension. The other day I pulled down a G

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J. Landman Gay writes: > In the Media Player app itself, all the above formats play perfectly. I > did not need to download any extra codecs, not even for .mov files. It gets worse. You can't rely on just the file extension. The other day I pulled down a GoToMeeting archive as a .wmv file and

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Hi Jacqueline If you don't need streaming you could try MPEG-1 video files. When compressed properly they are relatively good quality, just a bit bigger filesize-wise compared to MPEG-4. regards alex On 18/01/13 8:58 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I've been testing in Windows 7 without QuickTime

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I've been testing in Windows 7 without QuickTime installed to see how video and audio files work in a player object. Some formats that work fine in WMP will not work in LiveCode. The same files that fail in LiveCode also fail in the preview panel in Explorer. But they do work in WMP itself. I