Richmond Mathewson wrote:
> So, I wonder why there is not a way of putting one's iPad app onot the
> web in a way (and I don't mean via Cydia)
> that will allow people to download it onto their tablets
> independently, as one can do on an Android device?
Because China. And maybe Singapore, and
Mark Waddingham wrote:
> Okay so the thread from which this post came has some glaringly large
> and obvious incorrect statements in it so I think it wise I correct
> them.
Great post. Thanks.
My apologies if anything I wrote was construed as misrepresenting your
opinion. Not my intention. P
That sounds like the best approach.
Whilst it might seem 'annoying' to not use code in download files, I think
LiveCode still makes it easier to not have to.
It is just that you have to work a little bit harder to separate content from
code - and parameterise the parts (using data) which you mi
A very interesting read - thanks Curry :)
I guess I was very much focused on the specific clauses on downloading
executable code - which is no longer just an Apple thing - Google's is now very
similar (i.e. Stricter than it used to be) and I suspect the other app stores
on android will follow s
On 08/11/2017 01:44 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
At the risk of starting a platform war.
No platform war on my part. I hate operating systems. Linux comes
closest to what I want because I can configure it, it (mostly) doesn't
keep dumbing down the interface and (mostly) doesn
I recently heard that Apple is planning a revolutionary smartwatch which
has calling functions built-in. Seriously, no need to carry a phone!
Now Google it and see how many of these have existed for several years.
Revolutionary idea stealin' bunch! lol
~Roger
On Aug 11, 2017 4:44 PM, "J. Landm
On 8/11/17 10:51 AM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote:
I'd be tempted to switch to an android (I actually had the original
gphone), but the privacy, hacks, and whathaveyou stop me.
At the risk of starting a platform war...
I love my Mac but I don't like iOS. It's too dumbed down to be usef
Mark:
> I think Johnathan made the best point here - if you want into the
> iOS world and the AppStore Apple provide you have to abide by their
> rules. However, if you don't care about the AppStore, then just
> jailbreak your phone and run free - no-one is stopping you.
> It is entirely your c
Mark, thanks for the thorough explanation.
I would go on record to say that "vision" for our use of such post/sideloading
option would fall well within th UI/UX of the existing app, since, from a
design point of view our goals would want it to be virtually transparent.
That said, the CMS can g
You too, Richmond! I agree with you that it's more about Apple greed than
making a safe, malware-free environment. Stay safe from the Kool-ade. :)
Kind regards,
~Roger
Roger Eller
Graphics Systems Analyst
803 North Maple Street P: 864.967.1625
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Wow, Roger!
You have "out devil's advocated me".
Hope you have a great weekend.
Richmond.
On 8/11/17 8:38 pm, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote:
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
On 2017-08-11 19:22, Richmond Mathewson
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> On 2017-08-11 19:22, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> So, I wonder why there is not a way of putting one's iPad app onot the
>> web in a way (and I don't mean via Cydia)
>> th
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> Well, I always drive below the speed limit and I always wear a seatbelt
> (and have always done so whether or not it was
> a legal requirement in the country I happened to be living in at
On 2017-08-11 19:22, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
So, I wonder why there is not a way of putting one's iPad app onot the
web in a way (and I don't mean via Cydia)
that will allow people to download it onto their tablets
independently, as one can do on an Android device?
There is -
On 2017-08-11 18:49, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote:
Richmond, this may be rare but I'm 100% in agreement with you! My
device, my management. I don't have the right to do something illegal
or endanger others, but otherwise, I call the shots.
Indeed - you are free to do whatever you want
On 8/11/17 8:18 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
On 2017-08-11 18:54, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
Now putting a LiveCode standalone onto an iPad that does thing that
Apple doesn't like isn't always the same thing as putting things onto
an iPad that is unsafe.
I've a
On 2017-08-11 18:54, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
Now putting a LiveCode standalone onto an iPad that does thing that
Apple doesn't like isn't always the same thing as putting things onto
an iPad that is unsafe.
I've already pointed out that you can put whatever you want onto *you
If we buy an iPad, we are buying both the device and the services that go with
it. To use a service, like iTunes, we are agreeing to operate by their rules.
It seems acceptable for Apple to impose restrictions on use of their device and
their services simply because people have the choice to agr
Well, I always drive below the speed limit and I always wear a seatbelt
(and have always done so whether or not it was
a legal requirement in the country I happened to be living in at the time).
This is not quite the same as keeping goats and hens in the back of your
car (which was not illegal
Richmond:
> I cannot quite see how people are prepared to go on buying
> Apple iPads when there are such draconian restrictions as to
> what one can run on them.
> While the Android "thing" may not be much better, at last one
> can side-load almost anything one wants.
> But, Like Richard Stall
hnny, did you eat a cookie?" scenario. Johnny
>>>>>> says "no" because he did not eat "A" cookie but ate 3 cookies. I am not
>>>>> a 2
>>>>>> year old and know what these rules were intended to prevent.
>>>>
aid in Goodfellows... At least, that's how I feel.
Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
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On 2017-08-11 18:00, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is while telling everyone
to
control themselves is good, removing these capabilities from LC is bad,
so
if the time comes where it is necessary to do something to stop someone
from behaving bad
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is while telling everyone to
control themselves is good, removing these capabilities from LC is bad, so
if the time comes where it is necessary to do something to stop someone
from behaving badly, please make sure we have a switch in place that allows
th
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>
> It is important to remember that the majority of people who use mobile
> phones, tablets and computers use them like they do their car or washing
> machine. They have little interest in
On 2017-08-11 16:44, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
I cannot quite see how people are prepared to go on buying Apple iPads
when
there are such draconian restrictions as to what one can run on them.
While the Android "thing" may not be much better, at last one can
side-load almost an
On 2017-08-11 16:35, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
Unless I read your post incorrectly, mark, "Do" works just fine, at
least
Yes it does - the point I was making was that breaking the rules in the
App Store could end up with us having to restrict what the LiveCode
engine can do when bei
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On 2017-08-11 12:20, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wr
Unless I read your post incorrectly, mark, "Do" works just fine, at least
for ad hoc apps, as well it better, because it is a critically important
part of trying to debug mobile apps at runtime, with some of the rather
annoying things that happen at runtime, like some failure in a script
causing th
oodfellows... At least, that's how I feel.
>>>
>>> Ralph DiMola
>>> IT Director
>>> Evergreen Information Services
>>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>>>
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at's how I feel.
>
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
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On 2017-08-11 12:20
On 2017-08-11 12:20, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote:
I know the reviewers at app stores are not always careful, but
something like an LC player would surely get their notice.
Review, from my understanding, is heavily automated (it has to be - if
you think of the scale of the App Stores
Thank you, Mark.
This was a great explanation.
I know the reviewers at app stores are not always careful, but something like
an LC player would surely get their notice.
They do allow us to import JS, but JS is way more sandboxed than LC.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 11, 2017, at 3:55 AM, Mar
Okay so the thread from which this post came has some glaringly large
and obvious incorrect statements in it so I think it wise I correct
them.
First of all being able to submit apps to the App Stores which exist
today is critically important to our ecosystem - those App Stores come
with rule
Sorry for mixing threads and hijacking Dan's original issue with Apples
rejection because of disabling TS Net
moving this to a new thread. here. This is HUGE from my point of view..
though as Dan says, let's just do it, quietly and not abuse it
Though if Richard and Mark's assessement is corr
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