Re: LiveCode Commercial License

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:03 PM, JB wrote: > By the way if anyone is interested in learning > Objective-C one of the best tutorial I’ve found > so far is free and here is a link. > > http://rypress.com/tutorials/objective-c/index.html > Thanks. That looks far more accessible than Apple's spaghett

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

Thank you so much, Trevor! I haven’t used it yet but I opened the calendar Xcode project. I see it has a .mm file which I read is one thing that is needed and it has foundation which is definitely Objective-C. I am still learning but this will help a whole bunch. Thank you again for the help an

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:56 PM, JB wrote: > I would love to have a copy of that! If you > find it please send me a copy. > Here is a ZIP of what I have. I don't recall if I needed to make any tweaks to anything to get it working. http://www.bluemangolearning.com/livecode/wp-content/uploads/20

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I could be wrong but I previously looked at ell of the links I could find in the externals lesson and did not see it. I am using a Mac and it shows links for ExternalsEnvironmentV1 and ExternalsEnvironmentV2. Then I looked at Linux and it showed a link for ExternalsEnvironmentV3. I downloaded an

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This should help. Download links are in there: http://livecode.com/developers/guides/desktop-externals/ On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 12:44 AM, JB wrote: > I see the Foundation.h library was added and that > is what I needed because I am interested in using > Objective-C and the NSFileManager. > > I am

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

I see the Foundation.h library was added and that is what I needed because I am interested in using Objective-C and the NSFileManager. I am new to Obhective-C and the ExternalsEnvironmentV3_WithObjC distribution would really help a lot. Are there any other examples of externals made with Objectiv

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I would love to have a copy of that! If you find it please send me a copy. John Balgenorth On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:40 AM, JB wrote: > >> How can you use Objective-C right now? >> I downloaded the recent community version >> of LIveCode

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:40 AM, JB wrote: > How can you use Objective-C right now? > I downloaded the recent community version > of LIveCode and it looks to me to write an > external you still use C++ and Xcode 2.4. > > What is the trick to use Objective-C? > I have an ExternalsEnvironmentV3_W

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How can you use Objective-C right now? I downloaded the recent community version of LIveCode and it looks to me to write an external you still use C++ and Xcode 2.4. What is the trick to use Objective-C? John Balgenorth On Sep 19, 2014, at 7:20 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: > On Friday, September

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

On Friday, September 19, 2014, JB wrote: > Thanks for the links and info Trevor. > > Everything you said sounds really good. > Cocoa will open the door for Objective-C > and Swift. > Cocoa is primarily at the UI layer and doesn't really affect whether or not you can use objective-c. You can use

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Thanks for the links and info Trevor. Everything you said sounds really good. Cocoa will open the door for Objective-C and Swift. John Balgenorth On Sep 19, 2014, at 4:35 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:45 AM, JB wrote: > >> >> A better thing to discuss is when will L

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

You are right we were talking about software. I mentioned the computers because it related to the architectural firm buying 20 mac pros etc. You make some good points. As for english being your second language I only know english and you do better than me in many ways. John Balgenorth On Sep

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:45 AM, JB wrote: > > A better thing to discuss is when will LiveCode be > releasing the version that Kevin recently posted a > video where he talked about extensions and Swift. > He mentioned they will be able to program LiveCode > with LIveCode. This sounds really int

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:45 PM, JB wrote: > Hi Kay, > > The minute you use the computers they > have already lost value no matter what > brand you bought. > Sorry, I thought we were talking about Software licensing. As English is my second language I'm easily confused. If this thread is about ha

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lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag > von JB > Gesendet: Freitag, 19. September 2014 10:19 > An: How to use LiveCode > Betreff: Re: LiveCode Commercial License > > Disconnect your computer from the web and see if it still works. If still > works you still do not know for sure but if

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >> Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im > Auftrag >> von Kay C Lan >> Gesendet: Freitag, 19. September 2014 05:46 >> An: How to use LiveCode >> Betreff: Re: LiveCode Commercial License >> &

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actually works? Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag > von Kay C Lan > Gesendet: Freitag, 19. September 2014 05:46 > An: How to use LiveCode > Betreff: Re: LiveCode Commercial License > > On Fri,

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

Hi Kay, The minute you use the computers they have already lost value no matter what brand you bought. Here is another business example that would show you a reason for concern. You are a general contractor and build houses for a living. Your business is using a tool called a hammer. In the pas

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:06 AM, JB wrote: > People value their software and the programming > tools they spend time using to make it. > > What if for some reason or another LiveCode went > out of business. If I remember correctly JB you are on Mac, so maybe a better question would be what happe

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

Even though I mostly use LiveCode to develop in-house solutions and could get away with Community, I buy the Commercial license because I want RunRev to survive and thrive. And because it is a bargain. Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-live

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

That brings up a very interesting question about the license being a subscription instead of you owning the program like you did with Revolution Enterprise. People value their software and the programming tools they spend time using to make it. What if for some reason or another LiveCode went out

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

On 9/18/2014, 11:48 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: You're saying that RunRev doesn't care about 95% of the market. I find that hard to believe, but if it is true, why isn't there a free license for iOS? Just make it closed-source but free instead of $99, if it can't be open-source. I'm trying to f

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

Thanks Richard, Both you and Mark helped explain things pretty good. The ability to develop your program with a free version and then buy a license later is a major plus. That is similar to the Apple Developer Program which cost $99 per year. You can be a developer with Apple for free but you do

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

JB wrote: ...here is a question about the indy license for $299. You can have sales up to 500k. They do not have much sales the first year and cancel the license. The next year sales are $2 million. Is there license to market the program still good? My understanding is that the license peri

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Thanks Richard, So the logical economical way to go is use the free version until you are ready to put your program on the market unless you do have enough money to invest in a license which ends up helping everyone. Out of curiosity here is a case that I do not think would involve me because if

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

Mark Schonewille wrote: You're saying that RunRev doesn't care about 95% of the market. I find that hard to believe... Then we're on the same page because that's not what I wrote. What I wrote is here: ...but if it

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

Richard, You're saying that RunRev doesn't care about 95% of the market. I find that hard to believe, but if it is true, why isn't there a free license for iOS? Just make it closed-source but free instead of $99, if it can't be open-source. The Enterprise license was a little expensive, but

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

JB wrote: Thank you for the information. That sounds perfectly reasonable to me and isn’t really much different that the Rev license. If you did not renew your license you did not get the new versions. The only difference is now you also are not allowed to continue writing with the version you

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

Hi Mark, I fully agree with everything you said! And I am still happy I own Enterprise 4.x. John Balgenorth On Sep 18, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > Hi John, > > I'm glad it sounds reasonable to you, but to me it doesn't sound right. I > don't like subscription-ware. If I pay

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Hi Antti, Hence the distinction between Enterprise and open-source. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/4

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Hi John, I'm glad it sounds reasonable to you, but to me it doesn't sound right. I don't like subscription-ware. If I pay for something, I want to call it mine --to some extent. Moreover, the annual subscription license is more expensive than the old Enterprise license, because the Enterpris

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

> > > RunRev has never charged royalties. If you create an app with a licensed > copy of LiveCode, you can sell that app forever, even after your license > expires. However, after your LiveCode license expires, you will no longer > be able to release commercial copies of a newly built standalone, b

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

Thanks again, Mark. John Balgenorth On Sep 18, 2014, at 3:09 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > John, > > The commercial version of LiveCode can do everything your Revolution > Enterprise can do. The open-source version of LiveCode doesn't let you > protect your stacks with a password and I ha

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

John, The commercial version of LiveCode can do everything your Revolution Enterprise can do. The open-source version of LiveCode doesn't let you protect your stacks with a password and I have read something about the unavailability of an Oracle database driver. -- Best regards, Mark Schone

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

Hi Mark, Thank you for the information. That sounds perfectly reasonable to me and isn’t really much different that the Rev license. If you did not renew your license you did not get the new versions. The only difference is now you also are not allowed to continue writing with the version you l

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

Hi John, RunRev has never charged royalties. If you create an app with a licensed copy of LiveCode, you can sell that app forever, even after your license expires. However, after your LiveCode license expires, you will no longer be able to release commercial copies of a newly built standalone,

Re: LiveCode Commercial License

com] Im > Auftrag >> von JB >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. September 2014 11:28 >> An: How to use LiveCode >> Betreff: LiveCode Commercial License >> >> I was not awary LiveCode updated their commercial license. >> My question is they say you are billed annual

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e LiveCode > Betreff: LiveCode Commercial License > > I was not awary LiveCode updated their commercial license. > My question is they say you are billed annually which is like was done for > Revoluton Enterprise. Then they say you can cancel anytime and you are never > charged

LiveCode Commercial License

I was not awary LiveCode updated their commercial license. My question is they say you are billed annually which is like was done for Revoluton Enterprise. Then they say you can cancel anytime and you are never charged royalties. That was my problem with LiveCode is if I remember correctly when t