On 2/2/13 11:11 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote:
Ok now I see. If the button is NOT a part of the group, the card gets
the message first, THEN any background group. I have to say though
that is an odd duck.
It provides HC compatibility, with some differences. Since HC didn't
have "groups" per se, we
This is actually a fairly good point. What most companies want to avoid is
having to marry their developer. If only one or two people at a company knows
how to develop in Livecode, and the company decides they are not working in the
best interests of the company and want to get rid of them, this
Is this some kind of video game you are working on? Can I beta test it? ;-)
Bob
On Feb 1, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Nigel Soden wrote:
> Hi Joe
> So we've gone to the moon and back and are dreaming up scenarios that require
> us to alter the inevitable courses of meteors to save a planet whose
> inha
Ok now I see. If the button is NOT a part of the group, the card gets the
message first, THEN any background group. I have to say though that is an odd
duck. Also, my example is causing LC to lock up after two or three times, and
then attempting to select something. I'm not even going to try and
Okay I tested this. I put a simple handler in each object, the button, the
group the button belonged to and the card. In each handler I passed the
message. All the handler does is pop an answer dialog saying which object got
the message. I set the group's background behavior to true. First the b
That I did NOT know. So object, card, group object belongs to?? That doesn't
make a helluvalotta sense to me.
Bob
On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:58 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
> On 2/1/13 8:29 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
>> In terms of hierarchy, where does that group fall? Like, if a card
>> script does a
Object/group/card.
Bob
On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
> In terms of hierarchy, where does that group fall? Like, if a card script
> does a pass, does it go to the groups on the card?
>
>
> On Feb 1, 2013, at 9:19 PM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote:
>
>> To reproduce HC backgroun
It may help to not think of them as "backgrounds" anymore. They are shared
groups. Any card can use any of the shared groups. This is really a vastly
superior way of managing things, especially since the whole card = record
moniker doesn't really work well in Livecode. Cards are really like form
> Imagine the O-S version of Livecode in the Ubuntu repositories (let alone
> Debian and further afield);
> even, think of it as being installed in a default install alongside Python.
>
> My toes have curled up with excitiment!
>
Exactly!
___
use-liveco
So I suspect such a rapid app dev tool as LiveCode will get their
attention.
Imagine the O-S version of Livecode in the Ubuntu repositories (let
alone Debian and further afield);
even, think of it as being installed in a default install alongside Python.
My toes have curled up with exciti
Nigel Soden wrote:
> ...here are some of the comments I got from my esteemed colleagues.
>
> 1. How can such a simple language possibly create commercial
>applications
> 2. The language is too simple
> 3. What the hell is LiveCode, what best practices does it follow.
> 4. It's not main strea
Richard
I entend too do so, but I live with a very tight budget so I hope that this
continues for awhile to allow me a little 'slice of the cake' so to speak. I
must be the ONLY user in South Africa as I have not heard of anyone else using
LC.
A little while ago the company I work was look
Nigel Soden wrote:
> ...I'm a fairly new-bee to LC and to date I must say that I look
> forward to coming home after working in C# .Net (F...$%^&* usless.
> s) and working on some projects for my son.
How much more fun would things be if your day job also had you working
in LiveCode?
This
Nigel,
If you were able to use the original HyperCard, but with the advanced
capabilities of Revolution/LiveCode, on today's hardware you cannot imagine how
ecstatic you would be doing the same thing. Your learning curve would be a
matter of hours, rather than a couple of weeks. Of course we di
Hi Joe
So we've gone to the moon and back and are dreaming up scenarios that require
us to alter the inevitable courses of meteors to save a planet whose
inhabitants don't see that it is being destroyed by their collective stupidity.
I want to stop and smell the roses for a while; or do somethin
On 2/1/13 8:29 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
In terms of hierarchy, where does that group fall? Like, if a card
script does a pass, does it go to the groups on the card?
Background groups receive messages after the card does, so passing a
message on the card will send it to the background group. If
Hi Jacqi,
I've always appreciate your attempts to "educate" me on this subject. I just
didn't want to do things that way, so I ignored your efforts, figuring your
postings on the topic must be helping someone else on the list. So I guess I
was both deaf and blind to the issue. My biggest compla
In terms of hierarchy, where does that group fall? Like, if a card script does
a pass, does it go to the groups on the card?
On Feb 1, 2013, at 9:19 PM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote:
> To reproduce HC backgrounds, just make a group, set its backgroundBehavior to
> true, and it's layer to 1. That's
Steven,
No doubt you are probably right, but I'd have done it differently; which is why
it didn't get done the way I think it should have been done. Hind-sight is
always perfect. There were many stacks I created that raw neophyte, computer
illiterate teen agers were able to use in a high-pressu
On 2/1/13 5:42 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
I want my background
layer back. Not going to happen, I know. (sigh)
I realize this is a bit tangential to your main point, but I'm not sure
what you're missing with backgrounds. I still occasionally port old HC
stacks and their backgrounds work fi
1. One have to remember that the Metacard engine roots go way back (1992)
before Revolution and Runrev.
Whatever Dr. Raney did a long time ago he did for a good reason and set the
stage for where we are at now and the absence of a background layer has
been part of the design. I think he saw the li
Björnke, et al,
I suppose you've hit the nail right on the head. My 80th birthday will be here
in little over a month; and, by being nearly blind for the past 5 years, I have
trouble getting out of bed in the morning, much less learning stuff that
requires me to unlearn and do-over things I've
> So, I don't think Apple would go for the idea of having a killer development
> tool included with each Mac anymore. Again, with the Kickstarter initiative
> it won't matter, everyone on Mac, Windows , or Linux, will be able to use
> LiveCode for free.
In this world of today, nothing is free, e
HyperCard's way of doing background was often a problem. You might want to have
a set of things in the interface appear on every card, but much of the rest of
the background be different. That meant making a new background for every
variation, instead of having a "super background" that had most
Hi Joe
On 02/02/2013, at 10:42 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
> 1. I had little problem with the initial cost to sign up for Revolution;
> but, very soon I discovered that it was going to be MUCH more expensive for
> the "H/C" accustomed user to adopt. I'll talk about this more, later on.
The
The past is dead. Those who strive to life in the past, only aim for their own
death.
On 02.02.2013, at 00:42, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
> I'd like to take a completely tangential approach to this whole dilemma.
>
> When I first came aboard, I was thrilled by what I thought was to be a
> conti
I'd like to take a completely tangential approach to this whole dilemma.
When I first came aboard, I was thrilled by what I thought was to be a
continuation of "H/C"; but, shortly I was to be disillusioned by a number of
factors.
1. I had little problem with the initial cost to sign up for R
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