Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Geoff Canyon Rev
Have you read the latest on how AT&T is treating those of us hanging onto our "unlimited" plans? (I do the same thing) I've seen demonstrations of how they throttle your connection once you exceed about 2GB per month. You pay as much as someone with a 3GB plan, but beyond 2.1GB or so, you get rough

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Geoff Canyon Rev
It's just my assumption, but I would think that the *vast* majority of Android users leave in place whatever is on their device. It takes some geek-ish effort to root, and most people want nothing to do with that. On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:14 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Very true, and I don't see

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: > My only real point was that multiple versioning of the OS and > multiple hardware configurations, some compatible with some versions > and some not is the tradeoff for the "openness" of the Android world. > Some like it hot! Indeed, I prefer the steamy jungle, teeming with l

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Roger Eller
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I rooted my iPhone ONLY because I could tether it without having to pay > YET AGAIN for the unlimited data I was grandfathered into. Other than that, > I have advised against it, mainly because there was a possibility of > bricking it (at one ti

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Bob Sneidar
I rooted my iPhone ONLY because I could tether it without having to pay YET AGAIN for the unlimited data I was grandfathered into. Other than that, I have advised against it, mainly because there was a possibility of bricking it (at one time) and also because it voided the warranty for iPhones/i

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Bob Sneidar
Point taken. But it should also be mentioned that Apple got rid of it's BSD underpinnings a few years and couple three OS versions back, and is now running pure Unix (or so I am led to believe). At the time, Apple was not in much of a position to make a real choice in the matter. Their own attem

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Bob Sneidar
erm... not my experience with Apple at all! If you don't want updates, you can tell Software Updates to not check! In fact even if it DOES check, you ALWAYS have to enter a user and password to install them. In fact, one of my great problems I have around here is how to get users with laptops ru

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Roger Eller
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:55 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 2/7/12 11:22 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: > >> On 07/02/2012 05:14, J. Landman Gay wrote: >> >>> Very true, and I don't see much hope for improvement. On the other >>> hand, it's >>> pretty much expected you'll jailbreak an Android tablet so

RE: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Ralph DiMola
use LiveCode Subject: Re: Android stats On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > If I jailbroke my Acer tablet, how would that let me install ICS, if Acer > haven't yet adapted it for that tablet? > > > On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: >

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: > The whole issue highlights the Achilles Heel of Linux (read Open > Source) operating systems. NOT SAYING that OS systems are BAD, > just that there are tradeoffs to letting anyone do anything with > an OS. Some of us like being able to tailor our OS to our tastes and needs.

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Andrew Henshaw
My stats are showing just over 60% of my app users are on Gingerbread, with the rest spread between everything else. The paid apps tend to be more weighted towards the later versions, and the free apps towards the earlier ones, maybe the people with the newer phones are more willing to pay f

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/7/12 11:22 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: On 07/02/2012 05:14, J. Landman Gay wrote: Very true, and I don't see much hope for improvement. On the other hand, it's pretty much expected you'll jailbreak an Android tablet so people update that way. Jacque, Do you have any stats for that, or is i

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 07/02/2012 05:14, J. Landman Gay wrote: Very true, and I don't see much hope for improvement. On the other hand, it's pretty much expected you'll jailbreak an Android tablet so people update that way. Jacque, Do you have any stats for that, or is it anecdotal/instinct? I work in a roomful

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Bob Sneidar
It is apparently not illegal to "jailbreak" or root an iPhone either, according to fairly recent court decisions. However, rooting a device CAN void a warranty, so be advised. And there are lots of places in the world where you don't have to do anything technically illegal to be thrown in jail,

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Bob Sneidar
Wouldn't it be great if the Android market had one large agency powerful enough to force the cell companies to keep the devices updated? That way people would be able to just expect that the latest and greatest were available to them. They would have to be able to control the hardware too of cou

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/7/12 9:07 AM, Roger Eller wrote: On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: If I jailbroke my Acer tablet, how would that let me install ICS, if Acer haven't yet adapted it for that tablet? On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Very true, and I don't see much hope

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Roger Eller
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > If I jailbroke my Acer tablet, how would that let me install ICS, if Acer > haven't yet adapted it for that tablet? > > > On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > Very true, and I don't see much hope for improvement. On the other

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Ken Corey
On 07/02/2012 13:48, Colin Holgate wrote: If I jailbroke my Acer table0t, how would that let me install ICS, if Acer haven't yet adapted it for that tablet? Because someone else (http://cyanogenmod.com) does it. -Ken ___ use-livecode mailing list u

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Colin Holgate
If I jailbroke my Acer tablet, how would that let me install ICS, if Acer haven't yet adapted it for that tablet? On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Very true, and I don't see much hope for improvement. On the other hand, it's > pretty much expected you'll jailbreak an Androi

Re: Android stats

2012-02-07 Thread Ken Corey
On 07/02/2012 05:14, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 2/6/12 8:40 PM, gcanyon+rev wrote: One thing that stands out (which has been mentioned in previous articles numerous times) is how far behind most Android-based phones are on their OS updates. Three-fourths of android phones are two major versions be

Re: Android stats

2012-02-06 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/6/12 8:40 PM, gcanyon+rev wrote: One thing that stands out (which has been mentioned in previous articles numerous times) is how far behind most Android-based phones are on their OS updates. Three-fourths of android phones are two major versions behind. The main fault lies with the carriers,

Re: Android stats

2012-02-06 Thread gcanyon+rev
One thing that stands out (which has been mentioned in previous articles numerous times) is how far behind most Android-based phones are on their OS updates. Three-fourths of android phones are two major versions behind. The main fault lies with the carriers, who customize Android and don't both

Re: (OT) Re: Android stats

2012-02-06 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Andre, thank you. Very infomative. Not too far out of line for the basics I mentioned. I've been impressed with almost everything I've heard about Brazil. Is your "IRS" actually a part of the Government; or as ours, an independent, private, pseudo governmental organization with governmental clou

Re: (OT) Re: Android stats

2012-02-06 Thread Andre Garzia
Hi Joe, Price varies wildly. I am on a medium city 20 minutes from Rio, I live on the prime part of it, so I pay more than people who live 1 hour away from me, a lot more. A milk bottle with 1 liter will cost you about about USD 1,50 A pack of sliced bread will cost about USD 2,00 We pay heavy

(OT) Re: Android stats

2012-02-06 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Andre, for perspective: how much do basics such as bread and milk cost in Brazil? Thanks, Joe Wilkins On Feb 6, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: > Unfortunately, here in Brazil there are a lot of Android 2.1 devices. > They are still popular because they are extremely cheap. > > Brazilian

Re: Android stats

2012-02-06 Thread Andre Garzia
Unfortunately, here in Brazil there are a lot of Android 2.1 devices. They are still popular because they are extremely cheap. Brazilian cheap is not the same as U.S. or Europe cheap. For example the iPhone 4 here costs 1000 USD with a contract, I don't want to think what it would cost without a c

Android stats

2012-02-06 Thread J. Landman Gay
Some info on current Android OS and usage statistics: -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com _