Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-15 Thread Mark Wieder
On 09/15/2016 05:39 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mark Wieder wrote: On 09/14/2016 12:33 PM, Ali Lloyd wrote: This should (in theory) have been fixed in 8.1.0 rc 1 ( http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18183) Added my comment. Works on OSX, but not on linux. Here it's working nicely o

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: On 09/14/2016 12:33 PM, Ali Lloyd wrote: This should (in theory) have been fixed in 8.1.0 rc 1 ( http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18183) Added my comment. Works on OSX, but not on linux. Here it's working nicely on Ubuntu 14.04 (haven't yet tested on my 16.04

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread Mark Wieder
On 09/14/2016 12:33 PM, Ali Lloyd wrote: This should (in theory) have been fixed in 8.1.0 rc 1 ( http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18183) Added my comment. Works on OSX, but not on linux. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-l

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 15 Sep 2016, at 6:11 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > I'll check but I'm pretty sure the default preference is 15. There was a bug > where setting it to 0 didn't function right and there was also a regression > when the new menubar was made a different preference was used. Hi Terrance It a

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread Monte Goulding
I'll check but I'm pretty sure the default preference is 15. There was a bug where setting it to 0 didn't function right and there was also a regression when the new menubar was made a different preference was used. Sent from my iPhone > On 15 Sep 2016, at 4:11 AM, Terence Heaford wrote: > >

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ali Lloyd wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 7:37 PM Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> But for the Dictionary specifically, even though I have no technical >> problem preventing me from using the Dictionary I shared Jacque's >> preference for a different design (for me the biggest feature is >> among the

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread Ali Lloyd
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 7:37 PM Richard Gaskin wrote: > But for the Dictionary specifically, even though I have no technical > problem preventing me from using the Dictionary I shared Jacque's > preference for a different design (for me the biggest feature is among > the smallest to implement: I

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: 1. Do the .rev stacks here: /home/richmond/.runrev/components/livecodecommunity-8.1.0.x86_64/Documentation/rev/ contain ALL the Documentation? The dict data is in the SQList file I referred to earlier: I've been exploring the dictionary data in Documentation/resources/api

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread Mike Kerner
never mind. "revnewScriptEditor" spawns "revNewScriptEditor 1", so setting anything for "revnewscripteditor" won't help. On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > Anyone have a suggestion on how to fix the position of the script editor > when it stubbornly wants to stay offscreen?

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread Mike Kerner
Anyone have a suggestion on how to fix the position of the script editor when it stubbornly wants to stay offscreen? This is something in 8.1 I just ran into, today. I have only the built-in display on this lappie. I've tried setting the rect to the screenRect, moving the location around, etc., a

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread Richmond
Ha, Ha: answering my own question, again: No they don't: blast. On 14.09.2016 21:50, Richmond wrote: At the risk of seeming very stupid indeed . . . 1. Do the .rev stacks here: /home/richmond/.runrev/components/livecodecommunity-8.1.0.x86_64/Documentation/rev/ contain ALL the Documentation?

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread Richmond
At the risk of seeming very stupid indeed . . . 1. Do the .rev stacks here: /home/richmond/.runrev/components/livecodecommunity-8.1.0.x86_64/Documentation/rev/ contain ALL the Documentation? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@list

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread Richmond
The documentation works superbly in Xubuntu 14.04 32-bit (all my school computers bar one are that) for LC 8.1; everything popping up in Firefox "without a backward glance". I wish I knew why that does not happen in the 64-bit variant. On 14.09.2016 21:37, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrot

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: > Oddly enough, on Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit 8.1 is ahead of the curve in > this respect as populated the recent menu as soon as I started it up. Same here under Ubuntu 14.04. > Mind you; no documentation . . . Still. But not for lack of trying. There are 74 comments in this bug r

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread Richmond
Oddly enough, on Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit 8.1 is ahead of the curve in this respect as populated the recent menu as soon as I started it up. Mind you; no documentation . . . Still. Richmond. On 14.09.2016 21:11, Terence Heaford wrote: It appears the preference for the number of recent files is set

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Terence, > Am 14.09.2016 um 19:58 schrieb Terence Heaford : > > Just installed on my Mac. > The "Open Recent” menu does not seem to function. Does it work or does it not work or only seems to not work, but actually does? :-D > Has something changed? "Open Recent" works as exspecterd on my

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread Terence Heaford
It appears the preference for the number of recent files is set to 0 when installing. Could have swore LC remembered this setting when installing a new version? Terry > On 14 Sep 2016, at 18:58, Terence Heaford wrote: > > Just installed on my Mac. > > The "Open Recent” menu does not seem t

RE: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread Ralph DiMola
LiveCode Subject: Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 Just installed on my Mac. The "Open Recent” menu does not seem to function. Has something changed? All the best Terry > On 13 Sep 2016, at 17:11, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > Dear list members, > > We are pleased to announce the relea

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread Terence Heaford
Just installed on my Mac. The "Open Recent” menu does not seem to function. Has something changed? All the best Terry > On 13 Sep 2016, at 17:11, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > Dear list members, > > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0, our latest feature > release. > > R

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-14 Thread AndyP
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-13 Thread Mike Kerner
The .1 doesn't do this one justice. This is a big deal. On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Skip Kimpel wrote: > Really, really excited about this release, especially sFTP and SMTP > support! > > SKIP > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Mike Kerner > wrote: > > > Oh, yeah. 8.1

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-13 Thread Skip Kimpel
Really, really excited about this release, especially sFTP and SMTP support! SKIP On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > Oh, yeah. 8.1 is out. > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Peter TB Brett > > wrote: > > > Dear list members, > > > > We are pleased to ann

[ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-13 Thread Peter TB Brett
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0, our latest feature release. Read more about LiveCode 8.1 here: https://livecode.com/livecode-8-1-is-a-major-minor-release Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0

2016-09-13 Thread Mike Kerner
Oh, yeah. 8.1 is out. On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > Dear list members, > > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0, our latest > feature release. > > Read more about LiveCode 8.1 here: > https://livecode.com/livecode-8-1-is-a-major-mi

Re: [[ ANN ]] Release 8.1.0 RC-2

2016-09-05 Thread Mike Kerner
WOOHOO! 8.1! 8.1! On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 8:58 AM, panagiotis merakos < panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote: > Dear list members, > > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-2. > > > Getting the Release > === > You can get the release at https://downloads.liveco

[[ ANN ]] Release 8.1.0 RC-2

2016-09-05 Thread panagiotis merakos
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-2. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-2 contains 9 bug fixes

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-29 Thread Bob Sneidar
I've been getting random CTD on 8.0.2 in El Capitan. I was going to revert to 8.0.1 which seemed very stable to me. I'm sorry for not researching it further. I usually run into the issue while I am using the app in a production environment and I don't have the luxury of troubleshooting inline.

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-26 Thread Richmond
Are you really banned from the Use-List? That's amazing, did you, as they suggest in that lovely film "Educating Rita", 'bugger the bursar'? As someone who has been banned twice, and, arguably, should have been banned a fair few other times, I really wonder what did that. Mark, you have just

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-26 Thread panagiotis merakos
@Mark Can you please submit a bug report, and attach the crash log(s)? We plan to do a RC2 release late next week, so if what you see is a RC1 regression we will have to fix it for RC2. PS: A sample stack/pattern/recipe would be helpful as well On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:24 PM, mwieder wrote: >

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-26 Thread mwieder
(using Nabble since I'm still banned from the use-list) 8.1.0-rc-1 crashes pretty regularly and unexpectedly on me on osx, so I'm reverting to the latest dp release. Crashed Thread:0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Exception Type:EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) Exception Codes:

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 7:40 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Monte Goulding wrote: > > >> On 26 Aug 2016, at 7:03 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> > >> You'll also want to use those properties for any getters as well, > >> given that they are global and perhaps settable by third-party > >> plugins. >

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: >> On 26 Aug 2016, at 7:03 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> You'll also want to use those properties for any getters as well, >> given that they are global and perhaps settable by third-party >> plugins. > > Here’s where the problems settle in. By using revIDESetPreference >

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 7:03 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > You'll also want to use those properties for any getters as well, given that > they are global and perhaps settable by third-party plugins. Here’s where the problems settle in. By using revIDESetPreference anything that has subscribed to

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: > Richard wrote: >> Any chance we can have the scriptTextFont and scriptTextSize global >> properties reinstated as the mechanism for that? >> >> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11596 > > After reading the report I’m not really sure if they are deprecated > or no

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:39 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > If they are deprecated they may be removed so it might be time to move any > code that depends on these to use revIDEGetPreference. After reading the report I’m not really sure if they are deprecated or not… _

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:41 AM, panagiotis merakos wrote: > > Could we probably set them on startup? > > put revIDEGetPreference("cScriptEditor,editor,font") into scriptTextFont > put revIDEGetPreference("cScriptEditor,editor,fontSize") into scriptTextSize Something would need to subscribe to id

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread panagiotis merakos
Could we probably set them on startup? put revIDEGetPreference("cScriptEditor,editor,font") into scriptTextFont put revIDEGetPreference("cScriptEditor,editor,fontSize") into scriptTextSize On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:33 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Monte Goulding wrote: > >> On 26 Aug 2016, at 3

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:33 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Any chance we can have the scriptTextFont and scriptTextSize global > properties reinstated as the mechanism for that? If they are deprecated they may be removed so it might be time to move any code that depends on these to use revIDEGet

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: >> On 26 Aug 2016, at 3:29 AM, Richmond wrote: >> >> Personally I find the teeny-weeny font size in the messageBox a >> bother: and I have had the font in the scriptEditor set to 18 >> for the last 10 years. > > I’ll add that too as they should use the same font + size. Than

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:23 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > > All I know, right now, is that the app crashes on startup. I haven't > gotten much further than trying it in 8.0.2 and 8.1 rc1 In the simulator or on a device? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-liv

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread panagiotis merakos
Mike, you are probably affected by http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18261 On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > All I know, right now, is that the app crashes on startup. I haven't > gotten much further than trying it in 8.0.2 and 8.1 rc1 > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 3:29 AM, Richmond wrote: > > Personally I find the teeny-weeny font size in the messageBox a bother: and I > have had the font in the > scriptEditor set to 18 for the last 10 years. I’ll add that too as they should use the same font + size.

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Kerner
All I know, right now, is that the app crashes on startup. I haven't gotten much further than trying it in 8.0.2 and 8.1 rc1 On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > > On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:15 AM, Mike Kerner > wrote: > > > > Rats. I found an ios crash that appears to be a re

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 3:18 AM, Richmond wrote: > > It might not be a bad idea to put that into the documentation. Why? I’m in the midst of fixing it ;-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, uns

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:15 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > > Rats. I found an ios crash that appears to be a regression from 8.0.2... Can you provide some more detail? We currently know about and will have a fix for a crash using 64 bit simulators + tsNet. Cheers Monte _

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Kerner
Rats. I found an ios crash that appears to be a regression from 8.0.2... On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > > On 26 Aug 2016, at 2:15 AM, Mike Kerner > wrote: > > > > Hopefully, soon, we'll get script color printing back, too. > > Mike unfortunately the issue with scrip

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 2:15 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > > Hopefully, soon, we'll get script color printing back, too. Mike unfortunately the issue with script color printing on Mac is not just isolated to the IDE as it is color printing after setting the htmlText or styleText to something with col

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Bonner
This: set the textsize of field "auto complete" of card "single line" of stack "message box" to 18 On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Oh, theres 2 more fields you'd have to adjust too I guess. (the ones > displaying the "best guess.." as you type. > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Richmond
Thank you very much. Richmond. On 25.08.2016 20:51, panagiotis merakos wrote: I am not sure if this is the expected behavior (i.e. to first open the Script Editor so as to get the msg box text colorized), so I filed a bug to investigate this further. http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Bonner
Oh, theres 2 more fields you'd have to adjust too I guess. (the ones displaying the "best guess.." as you type. On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Richmond.. Short term you can do this.. > > set the textsize of field "message" of card "single line" of stack > "message box" to

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Bonner
Indeed On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Richmond wrote: > Thanks. > > I am aware of that: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=27829 > > I am fairly handy at mucking around with (and mucking up) components of > the IDE. > > However there are lots of end-users, and lots more potential

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Richmond
Thanks. I am aware of that: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=27829 I am fairly handy at mucking around with (and mucking up) components of the IDE. However there are lots of end-users, and lots more potential end-users (especially if I get my wicked way and get my book out to p

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Bonner
Richmond.. Short term you can do this.. set the textsize of field "message" of card "single line" of stack "message box" to 18 set the textsize of field "results" of card "single line" of stack "message box" to 18 set the textsize of field "message" of card "multiple lines" of stack "message box"

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: > But it would be even more marvellous if one could set the font and > the font size for the messageBox like one can the scriptEditor. xTalks have long supported scriptTextFont and sciptTextSize for all sorts of use cases where displaying things as we're accustomed to seeing th

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Kerner
hmmm, a good idea, letting the user right-click in the message box to edit the font sizes, or having a settings card... On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Richmond wrote: > Thank you very much. > > Richmond. > > > On 25.08.2016 20:51, panagiotis merakos wrote: > >> I am not sure if this is the exp

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread panagiotis merakos
I am not sure if this is the expected behavior (i.e. to first open the Script Editor so as to get the msg box text colorized), so I filed a bug to investigate this further. http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18265 Best, Panos -- On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Richmond wrote: > Yes;

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Richmond
Colourising the messageBox is marvellous . . . But it would be even more marvellous if one could set the font and the font size for the messageBox like one can the scriptEditor. Personally I find the teeny-weeny font size in the messageBox a bother: and I have had the font in the scriptEditor

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Richmond
Yes; you are quite right. I opened the scriptEditor and then the messageBox. It might not be a bad idea to put that into the documentation. Thank you, Richmond. On 25.08.2016 20:14, panagiotis merakos wrote: I think you must have opened the script editor first On 25 Aug 2016 18:11, "Richmond"

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread panagiotis merakos
I think you must have opened the script editor first On 25 Aug 2016 18:11, "Richmond" wrote: > At the risk of sounding very stupid indeed . . . > > I installed 8.1.0 rc 1 and typed this into the Message Box: > > put 5 into AA > add 1 to AA > put AA > > and saw no colourisation at all. What did I

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Richmond
At the risk of sounding very stupid indeed . . . I installed 8.1.0 rc 1 and typed this into the Message Box: put 5 into AA add 1 to AA put AA and saw no colourisation at all. What did I do wrong? Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit. Richmond. On 25.08.2016 17:01, panagiotis merakos wrote: Nice to hear tha

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread panagiotis merakos
@Peter: You are right, this should read: "On Windows, the default value of the global dontUseQt and dontUseQtEffects properties has changed **from false to true**. Regarding OSX: - If OS X version >= 10.8 then dontUseQT=true - If LC engine == 64 bit then dontUseQT=true On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 a

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
>From the release notes: "On Windows, the default value of the global dontUseQt and dontUseQtEffects properties has changed from true to false. This means that by default players created on Windows will use the DirectShow API for multimedia playback.” The second sentence seems to contradict th

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Kerner
Hopefully, soon, we'll get script color printing back, too. 8 is On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 10:01 AM, panagiotis merakos wrote: > Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because apart > from 80+ bug fixes, it contains a lot of enhancement requests, including > keyboard navigatio

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mark Talluto
> On Aug 25, 2016, at 5:58 AM, panagiotis merakos > wrote: > > Dear list members, > > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1. Thanks! This is wonderful. Best regards, Mark Talluto livecloud.io canelasoftware.com ___ us

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread panagiotis merakos
Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because apart from 80+ bug fixes, it contains a lot of enhancement requests, including keyboard navigation in the Project Browser, script colorization in the msg box and some more: https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pulls?q=is%3Apr+

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Kerner
I am really excited about 8.1. I've been working with it for a while. There are several nifty things in here. On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, panagiotis merakos < panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote: > Dear list members, > > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1. > > > Get

[ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread panagiotis merakos
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1 contains 85 bug fixe

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-17 Thread Ben Rubinstein
Ah thanks Charles, I'd misunderstood - that's just what I needed. cheers, Ben On 17/08/2016 08:59, Charles Warwick wrote: Hi Ben, That's exactly what calling that dispatch command will do, if it is executed in the IDE before you build the standalone. If the tsNetLibURL stack is unloaded, tsN

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-17 Thread Charles Warwick
Hi Ben, That's exactly what calling that dispatch command will do, if it is executed in the IDE before you build the standalone. If the tsNetLibURL stack is unloaded, tsNet will not be included in any standalone builds that use libURL unless tsNet is selected specifically as an inclusion.

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-17 Thread Ben Rubinstein
Thanks Monte. Is there a way in the build process to include the libURL stack, but not include the tsNet external? Ben On 17/08/2016 00:54, Monte Goulding wrote: On 17 Aug 2016, at 7:08 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: Is there any way in dp3 to step back a bit further, and include libURL in a

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-16 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 17 Aug 2016, at 7:08 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: > Is there any way in dp3 to step back a bit further, and include libURL in a > standalone without including tsNet? At the moment (and perhaps this will be the long term recommendation rather than any preferences) for projects that don’t want

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-16 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 30/07/2016 09:38, Monte Goulding wrote: At the moment we don’t have a facility for turning tsNet off in the event you want to use libURL (not really sure why you would want that but I guess it’s possible). You can turn tsNet off if you want to with `dispatch “revUnloadLibrary" to stack “tsN

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-08 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 2:14 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > I wonder if it's because I use BBEdit for editing. I hope not. I've only had a minor poke around LCB but I regularly use BBEdit to fix 'anomalies' with my scripts in LC and find it indispensable. ___

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/8/2016 6:40 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 2:41 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: During my brief forray, I discovered that the same simple LCB script threw the "format not supported" error if my formatting included tabs. Replacing tabs with spaces made it work again. I looked a

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-08 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 2:41 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > During my brief forray, I discovered that the same simple LCB script threw > the "format not supported" error if my formatting included tabs. Replacing > tabs with spaces made it work again. I looked at your "round corners" > widget and it

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-06 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/6/2016 12:18 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: Modules need to be recompiled for 8.1. During my brief forray, I discovered that the same simple LCB script threw the "format not supported" error if my formatting included tabs. Replacing tabs with spaces made it work again. I looked at your "round

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-06 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Saturday, August 6, 2016, pink wrote: > I started to use 8.1.0 DP-3 for the first time, and I noticed that all of > the > widgets that are not made by Livecode are flagged. (For example, I have all > of Trevor's installed) > > When using one, I get "Widget could not be created because there wa

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-06 Thread pink
I started to use 8.1.0 DP-3 for the first time, and I noticed that all of the widgets that are not made by Livecode are flagged. (For example, I have all of Trevor's installed) When using one, I get "Widget could not be created because there was an error while loading it. To resolve, please go to

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-02 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Note recent update on the other thread BR: I hit the "no business license" wall on attempt to use "tsNetUploadFileSync" CHARLES: Ah, yes. Sorry, I have forgotten that detail and it was not mentioned in the DP3 release announcement. For Indy users, SFTP and SMTP(S) protocols do not support "file

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-02 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Charles, Not a big deal but I'm wondering why the library stack for tsNet does not have a name that begins with "rev". There are a few other exceptions to that convention but I don't recall any recent IDE stack additions that weren't named that way. On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:51 AM Charles Warwi

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-02 Thread Charles Warwick
On 2/08/2016 5:25 am, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 8/1/2016 12:41 AM, Charles Warwick wrote: You can issue post/get/put asynchronous commands even to the same server with the Indy license using tsNet commands directly Remind me, is "get url" blocking? Yes :-) ___

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-02 Thread Charles Warwick
On 2/08/2016 4:10 am, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: @Charles: So, in effect, just to clarify my understanding… the *only* difference between the TSnet indy and business license is that the indy user has the added burden of coding explicit tsNet commands to get the same asynchronous behavi

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/1/2016 12:41 AM, Charles Warwick wrote: You can issue post/get/put asynchronous commands even to the same server with the Indy license using tsNet commands directly Remind me, is "get url" blocking? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-01 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
@Charles: So, in effect, just to clarify my understanding… the *only* difference between the TSnet indy and business license is that the indy user has the added burden of coding explicit tsNet commands to get the same asynchronous behavior that the business user can get with simple calls that

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-01 Thread Terry Judd
On 1/08/2016 3:51 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of J. Landman Gay" wrote: >On 8/1/2016 12:41 AM, Charles Warwick wrote: >> On 1/08/2016 3:16 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote: >>> On 7/31/2016 11:58 PM, Charles Warwick wrote: Within the Indy version of DP3, tsNet with libUrl is designed to replica

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-31 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/1/2016 12:41 AM, Charles Warwick wrote: On 1/08/2016 3:16 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 7/31/2016 11:58 PM, Charles Warwick wrote: Within the Indy version of DP3, tsNet with libUrl is designed to replicate this behaviour. This restriction is removed within the Business edition and multiple

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-31 Thread Charles Warwick
On 1/08/2016 3:16 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 7/31/2016 11:58 PM, Charles Warwick wrote: Within the Indy version of DP3, tsNet with libUrl is designed to replicate this behaviour. This restriction is removed within the Business edition and multiple handlers can make blocking requests (put url

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-31 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/31/2016 11:58 PM, Charles Warwick wrote: Within the Indy version of DP3, tsNet with libUrl is designed to replicate this behaviour. This restriction is removed within the Business edition and multiple handlers can make blocking requests (put url x into y, post x to url y, etc.. ) without wa

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-31 Thread Charles Warwick
On 1/08/2016 7:19 am, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: Charles, first… let me congratulate you for getting this into LiveCode As it turns out, I was experiencing the infamous silent network API blocking when there is a failed network call… I think there is an error reporting bug somewhere as

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-31 Thread Charles Warwick
On 1/08/2016 7:04 am, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Am 31.07.2016 um 05:37 schrieb Charles Warwick : Yes, FTPS is supported by the external, though you have to use the tsNet commands directly, rather than the standard libUrl calls. For explicit FTPS transfers, you can do something like this: local tE

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-31 Thread J. Landman Gay
On July 31, 2016 4:20:47 PM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: Charles, first… let me congratulate you for getting this into LiveCode Amen! As it turns out, I was experiencing the infamous silent network API blocking when there is a failed network call… I think there is an error reporting

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-31 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Charles, first… let me congratulate you for getting this into LiveCode As it turns out, I was experiencing the infamous silent network API blocking when there is a failed network call… I think there is an error reporting bug somewhere as I believe in earlier versions a script error would be tri

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-31 Thread Matthias Rebbe
> Am 31.07.2016 um 05:37 schrieb Charles Warwick > : > > Yes, FTPS is supported by the external, though you have to use the tsNet > commands directly, rather than the standard libUrl calls. > > For explicit FTPS transfers, you can do something like this: > > local tEmptyHeaderVar, tData, tRe

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Charles Warwick
On 31/07/2016 11:02 am, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: TS NET: > No, you don’t need to do anything unless you are explicitly selecting inclusions during the standalone build. Then if you don’t have the internet library (libURL) included you need to include it as an extra inclusion. tsNet is

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Charles Warwick
On 31/07/2016 12:01 am, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Charles, is FTP with TLS/SSL (AUTH TLS - Explicit) also supported by your external? Yes, FTPS is supported by the external, though you have to use the tsNet commands directly, rather than the standard libUrl calls. For explicit FTPS transfers, y

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Charles Warwick
On 31/07/2016 9:53 am, Alex Tweedly wrote: No, you don’t need to do anything unless you are explicitly selecting inclusions during the standalone build. Then if you don’t have the internet library (libURL) included you need to include it as an extra inclusion. tsNet is resolved as a dependency

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
TS NET: Awesome! thank you… my begging bowl was out for this for s long! Monte Goulding wrote: > Or do I need to do something to use it ? >>If so, what ? > No, you don’t need to do anything unless you are explicitly selecting inclusions during the standalone build. Then if yo

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Alex Tweedly
Thanks Monte - but more questions open up On 30/07/2016 09:38, Monte Goulding wrote: Or do I need to do something to use it ? If so, what ? No, you don’t need to do anything unless you are explicitly selecting inclusions during the standalone build. Then if you don’t have the internet

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Charles, is FTP with TLS/SSL (AUTH TLS - Explicit) also supported by your external? If so, could you add an example for that also, please? Regards, Matthias > Am 30.07.2016 um 12:13 schrieb Charles Warwick >: > > > To add to what Monte has said, the ts

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Kevin Miller
The new URL library is licensed with per-user costs so it can¹t go into OSS. There are libraries out there. The platform is open source. That means that you can add any one you choose free of charge. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Every

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