Re: Parent of Target

2017-08-22 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 8/23/17 1:33 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: On 8/22/17 11:42 PM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote: Why do you need to turn the long id of the parent into a small array and dispatch to to any object along the path? From the search custom control I would just do the following:

Re: Parent of Target

2017-08-22 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 8/22/17 11:42 PM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote: Why do you need to turn the long id of the parent into a small array and dispatch to to any object along the path? From the search custom control I would just do the following: dispatch "behaviorSearchAndFilter" This sends the message d

Re: Bad Crash on Attempt to Group Radio Buttons

2017-08-22 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 23 Aug 2017, at 1:47 pm, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode > wrote: > > Before I report… anyone seeing this or know this has been addressed in more > recent versions. A crash log should help us find this relatively quickly if you can’t come up with a good recipe. Cheers Mont

Re: Bad Crash on Attempt to Group Radio Buttons

2017-08-22 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
All crashes are bugs and need reporting. It sounds like in this case you had individual objects selected and tried to edit those as you would a group. The engine couldn't handle it. I've not had a crash if a group itself is selected when I choose "edit group". To create a group inside another

Re: Paint tools and image creation

2017-08-22 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 8/22/17 6:02 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: the paint tools seem to be badly broken here in 8.1.6 if I draw an oval it , appears but selects the entire card rect as the enclosing rect/container instead of the actual oval itself. Attempting bring the area "down" to ed

Re: Parent of Target

2017-08-22 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > > > in this case behavior_SearchAndFilter is attache to the searhView custom > control > > yep I plan that simple dispatch > > hence my function to turn the long idea of the parent into a small array > > when ca

Re: attaching my group id to a control in a subgroup

2017-08-22 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
> > > It would need to be a group-level function, which isn't a problem. I'm > always hesitant, though, to rely on "me" [and finding "me" in the > dictionary is an adventure in itself . . . {now *Bug 20289* > - "me" is nearly > impossible to fi

Bad Crash on Attempt to Group Radio Buttons

2017-08-22 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
I had just now a really bad crash in 8.1.6 created custom control/group then I needed to create two groups of five @ radio buttons in that group. I layed out the radio buttons and then with selectedGroupedControls selected, I tried to group one set of radio buttons by selecting them and click "

Re: Parent of Target

2017-08-22 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Trevor I'm sorry I muddied the waters by using the word "widget" which I have carelessly tossed around in the past for "small group of objects that team up for a job" But really widgets are widgets now and what I mean is "custom Control" You understand me very well…. The card or Search

Re: attaching my group id to a control in a subgroup

2017-08-22 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Can you have a function in the appropriate group that returns its unDna? > This way, it will not matter about any subgrouping. > > Function MyUnDna > Return the unDna of me > End MyUnDna > >

Re: Paint tools and image creation

2017-08-22 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
This is important in our world. not sure if I follow exactly what the issues are, but I can tell you what users need. But first of all, the paint tools seem to be badly broken here in 8.1.6 if I draw an oval it , appears but selects the entire card rect as the enclosing rect/container instead o

Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-08-22 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > I suppose it depends on what your priorities are. If I could be > virtually guaranteed that going to a web site wouldn't hijack my > computer, and there were alternatives to having a native file system > so that it wasn't nearly so important (the iOS does have a file system >

Re: Parent of Target

2017-08-22 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > > See earlier longer memo. > USE CASE aka "Problem to Solve" > > is a frame work with multiple stacks/aka "modules" with content. > > Search will be a global requirement. > > I can identify, at least for now, th

Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-08-22 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I suppose it depends on what your priorities are. If I could be virtually guaranteed that going to a web site wouldn't hijack my computer, and there were alternatives to having a native file system so that it wasn't nearly so important (the iOS does have a file system it's just sandboxed heavily

Re: attaching my group id to a control in a subgroup

2017-08-22 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Can you have a function in the appropriate group that returns its unDna? This way, it will not matter about any subgrouping. Function MyUnDna Return the unDna of me End MyUnDna Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2017, at 6:08 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode > wrote: > > I have a uniqDna value

Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-08-22 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 8/22/17 3:43 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode wrote: the Android world creeps me out. And those phones always seem to break. None of my phones are newer than 3 years old and they all work. I prefer Android because it's a real operating system with a file system where you can open file

attaching my group id to a control in a subgroup

2017-08-22 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
I have a uniqDna value for each datum in my data. This is used to store and retrieve it from a database. When I create an output group for one of these (and there are a great many different output groups), the group is labeled with these IDs. The output group will typically contain label fields

Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-08-22 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Stephen Barncard wrote: > the Android world creeps me out. My wife (definitely not a techie) says the same thing on the rare day when she has to use my iPad. There's no disputing taste. I prefer the ease of deploying my test builds to Android, and the customizability, and having three diffe

Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-08-22 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
the Android world creeps me out. And those phones always seem to break. sqb -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:57 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I did roll my own but it isn't possible to get it quit

Re: Parent of Target

2017-08-22 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
[ignore previous post… hit send prematurely] [@ Trevor if you have thoughts based on your experience with Levure… love to hear the ] Disclaimer: this my first time ever doing something with such a huge, modular architect, all previous experience to data has been in 1 Stack with Many Cards = 1

Re: Parent of Target

2017-08-22 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/22/2017 12:53 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: Mark Wieder via use-livecode" wrote: >># do different things based on calling context. That's exactly the opposite of what behaviors are for. BR: ?? but a behavior may contain a script with a mouseup ha

Re: Parent of Target

2017-08-22 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Mark Wieder via use-livecode" wrote: >># do different things based on calling context. That's exactly the opposite of what behaviors are for. BR: ?? but a behavior may contain a script with a mouseup handler at that responds to different targets with different actions/results.

Re: Paint tools and image creation

2017-08-22 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
If this were 3 years ago, I would be begging for this change. It does not affect me right now, though. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > I added a comment to the bug report, but based on the amount of feedback so > far (almost non

Re: Paint tools and image creation

2017-08-22 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I added a comment to the bug report, but based on the amount of feedback so far (almost none) I'd say the change probably wouldn't affect many people. Whether it's a point-release change or a dev-release change is hard to say, but unless more people object I'd say it isn't a major shift and it

Re: Completely OT - flat earth

2017-08-22 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 6:25 AM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I was in the southwest of England that day. It was very dense cloud, so we > didn’t see the sun at all. Here’s a time-lapse of what we saw: > > Same here: very heavy cloud cover and thunderst

Re: Completely OT - flat earth

2017-08-22 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
I manually fixed each picture to make them match, more or less: https://www.facebook.com/colin.holgate.5/videos/10159333252840694/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage y

Re: lock screen gotcha revisited

2017-08-22 Thread hh via use-livecode
Thanks for your fine explanation. And the future handlers sound very promising, both OnUpdate() and OnMarksPonder(). Graphics are meanwhile pretty fast in LCB. I timed such clock updates (in LCB): The OnPaint of a clock needs, also with a heavy loaded CPU, less than 4 millisecs. Even checking the

Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-08-22 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I did roll my own but it isn't possible to get it quite right. It's called a "toast" because it pops up/slides up from the bottom of the screen and then slides back down again. Doing it in LCS requires visual effects which break the effect if there is anything under the sliding area; everything

Re: Completely OT - flat earth

2017-08-22 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 8/22/17 8:34 AM, jbv via use-livecode wrote: On Mon, August 21, 2017 10:17 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: I read recently that the flat-earther movement is growing. That's because of global warming : earth is slowly melting and will get 100% flat by the year 2100... Okay, I l

Re: Paint tools and image creation

2017-08-22 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Waddingham wrote: > Basically, only the browser, pointer and help tools will recurse into > groups - the paint tools will not ...nor drawing tools or object tools (eg field or button). Any opportunity here to generalize the solution to accommodate this? tool property for groups/creat

Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-08-22 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
jonathandlynch wrote: > It would really be great if we could pop over a substack on all > platforms. Can that be done in LCB? http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2786 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web

Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-08-22 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Export a snapshot of the main stack and use it as the background for the top stack? That could work. Would need to test how fast it is and how well it works when a browser widget is up. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2017, at 2:03 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > It would really be g

Re: Paint tools and image creation

2017-08-22 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > In my mind a paint tool is a 2 dimensional function. I can see using > the paint tool in a window displaying a single object that was not a > group, kind of like Microsoft Word does it. I cannot imagine trying to > paint an object inside a group as though an artist could reac

Re: Completely OT - flat earth

2017-08-22 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
For some reason, I like this guys humor.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvAk9718Jo8&t=201s On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > They have described me as a "flat earth denier" and a "globetard" - so > clearly they have constr

Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-08-22 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
It would really be great if we could pop over a substack on all platforms. Can that be done in LCB? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > Oooh I was thinking about toasting... err rolling my own! > > Bob S > > >> On Aug 22, 2017, at 10

Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-08-22 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Oooh I was thinking about toasting... err rolling my own! Bob S > On Aug 22, 2017, at 10:41 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 2017-08-22 17:10, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: >> Educate me, what is toast? > > It pops up a small overlay on the screen with a message, whic

Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-08-22 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-22 17:10, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Educate me, what is toast? It pops up a small overlay on the screen with a message, which then fades away after a fixed period of time. A bit like notifications on Mac, and the small bubble that can appear above the taskbar on Windows.

Re: Completely OT - flat earth

2017-08-22 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/22/2017 08:21 AM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote: It’s time-lapse. Can’t remember how many minutes it was over, but it wasn’t many pictures. Ah, OK. I think it's probably just Facebook that's annoying. The video is only one second long, and FB keeps looping it. -- Mark Wieder ah

Re: lock screen gotcha revisited

2017-08-22 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-22 17:31, hh via use-livecode wrote: @Mark. Say I have 24 copies of the LC clock widget in order to display different time zones. How can I have them in "seconds-sync"? In LC Script, with LCS-clocks I would do a screenLock, update the clocks and then unlock. In LC Builder I even tried

Re: Daybed 2.0 - A Library for Apache CouchDB

2017-08-22 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
HI Greg, I've just purchased your udemy course to say thank you. I'm sure somewhere down the line this will be very useful Thanks again lagi On 19 August 2017 at 14:20, pink via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > For experimentation, you can setup a free account with IBM f

Re: lock screen gotcha revisited

2017-08-22 Thread hh via use-livecode
@Mark. Say I have 24 copies of the LC clock widget in order to display different time zones. How can I have them in "seconds-sync"? In LC Script, with LCS-clocks I would do a screenLock, update the clocks and then unlock. In LC Builder I even tried to make a composed widget, without improvement.

Re: Array literals and script only stack initialization (was Re: Developing first on android)

2017-08-22 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Here's the problem. Any project with a datagrid is going to tear through those ID's in a heartbeat as you are testing. Bob S > On Aug 21, 2017, at 21:58 , Brian Milby via use-livecode > wrote: > > I think there may be a strategy to avoid a large part of the ID collision > issue.Wouldn'

Re: Completely OT - flat earth

2017-08-22 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
It’s time-lapse. Can’t remember how many minutes it was over, but it wasn’t many pictures. > On Aug 22, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 08/22/2017 06:25 AM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote: >> I was in the southwest of England that day. It was very dense clo

Re: Completely OT - flat earth

2017-08-22 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
They have described me as a "flat earth denier" and a "globetard" - so clearly they have constructed their own vocabulary and subculture. If they change their minds, they lose that feeling of belonging to a special club. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2017, at 11:06 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-li

Re: Completely OT - flat earth

2017-08-22 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/22/2017 06:25 AM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote: I was in the southwest of England that day. It was very dense cloud, so we didn’t see the sun at all. Here’s a time-lapse of what we saw: https://www.facebook.com/colin.holgate.5/videos/10159330354275694/ That's pretty annoying. Di

Re: Paint tools and image creation

2017-08-22 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
When I created Ready Wrigley Activities, I had to jump through all kinds of hoops to be able to draw inside a group. I think that drawing on a grouped image should be standard. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2017, at 11:01 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > In my mind a paint to

Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-08-22 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Educate me, what is toast? Bob S > On Aug 21, 2017, at 23:50 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > I wouldn't usually suggest duplicating effort / code - however the Toast > function is too hard to resist in this case... If only to show a direct > comparison between LCB vs C++!

Re: Completely OT - flat earth

2017-08-22 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Here's the problem though. Trying to convince those who have made their living teaching that the earth is flat, would have to admit that all those hard long days and nights and years spent refining their "science" was all for naught, a fools errand, and that indeed their entire life and reputati

Re: Paint tools and image creation

2017-08-22 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
In my mind a paint tool is a 2 dimensional function. I can see using the paint tool in a window displaying a single object that was not a group, kind of like Microsoft Word does it. I cannot imagine trying to paint an object inside a group as though an artist could reach his paintbrush 3 dimensi

Re: lock screen gotcha revisited

2017-08-22 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
The general consensus is that it doesn't. I think there was something else going on where my screen was not updating even after 5 successive screen unlocks, and I never figured out why, but I went through my app and every place there was a lock screen, I added an unlock screen to the end of the

Paint tools and image creation

2017-08-22 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi all, We had an issue come into support about using the paint tools on a grouped image - this has come up before (years ago, at least). Basically, only the browser, pointer and help tools will recurse into groups - the paint tools will not. This means that if you use the paint tools over a

Re: Completely OT - flat earth

2017-08-22 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
Totality in Corvallis, Or, USA. Awesome! Bill P William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > On Aug 22, 2017, at 7:09 AM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode > wrote: > > Here’s a video I took from my plane seat yesterday: > > https://www.facebook.com/colin.holgate.5/videos/10159330358430694/ > >

Re: Completely OT - flat earth

2017-08-22 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
Here’s a video I took from my plane seat yesterday: https://www.facebook.com/colin.holgate.5/videos/10159330358430694/ Unfortunately we crossed the eclipse path sooner than I hoped, and so only got around 75% eclipse. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-

Re: Completely OT - flat earth

2017-08-22 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Have you ever met/heard-of a 'Flat-Earth' pilot? Or geologist? Or astrophysicist? Or plain physicist? Me neither. Sean Cole *Pi Digital Productions Ltd* www.pidigital.co.uk +44(1634)402193 +44(7702)116447 'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There is no box!' 'For then you

Re: Completely OT - flat earth

2017-08-22 Thread jbv via use-livecode
On Mon, August 21, 2017 10:17 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: > > I read recently that the flat-earther movement is growing. That's because of global warming : earth is slowly melting and will get 100% flat by the year 2100... ___ use-live

Re: Completely OT - flat earth

2017-08-22 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
I was in the southwest of England that day. It was very dense cloud, so we didn’t see the sun at all. Here’s a time-lapse of what we saw: https://www.facebook.com/colin.holgate.5/videos/10159330354275694/ > On Aug 22, 2017, at 5:03 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon via use-livecode > wrote: > > 11 Aug

AW: Completely OT - flat earth

2017-08-22 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
:) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Francis Nugent Dixon via use-livecode Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. August 2017 14:04 An: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: Francis Nugent Dixon Betreff: Completely OT - flat earth 11 A

Completely OT - flat earth

2017-08-22 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon via use-livecode
11 August 1999 - We went out on our (Honda) bikes to find THE SPOT. It was somewhere North-East of Paris. The birds were so petrified, they stopped singing - A once in a lifetime experience (next one here is far enough away from today to not interest me, as I most definitely WILL NOT be there !!!)