Re: Problem building standalone

It seems that if I first launch livecode, then turn off messages and load my monolithic stack, then build, I get a working binary in 8.1.2. I suspect that the startup routines are making changes that later confuse the compiler, but . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 __

Problem building standalone

I no have my merged stack, with the many sub stacks. Livecode crashes every time I try to build a standalone. Sometimes it runs for a while and explains what it's doing; other times I've barely let go of the menu choice. This is 8.1.2-release. Is this a common problem? I tried turning off mess

Re: 8.1.2 Offset bug fixed!

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I knew there was a reason they called base 16 "hex"! Remember to always draw a pentium around your computer before booting windows or otherwise trafficking with demons . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 _

Re: Not Corruption

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 3:33 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Sounds remarkably like a possible urban legend I read, where a secretary > was asked to copy a floppy disk, so she put it into the Xerox machine. In this case, I was speaking to the guy that got the call. Frankly, though, this is one that

Re: save stack as filename failing most of the time

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 3:39 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 1/4/17 4:37 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > >> "the sub stacksof" also reveals no substack. >> > > Is that a typo? Does "substacks of" also fail? > failed autocorrect? It was actually "substacks of" -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508

Re: Jumping cursors

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 5:26 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > I'm a little surprised that works at all. The "selectedtext" returns a > string, not a position. I'd use "selectedChunk" which would provide a > character location, enabling you to set the cursor at a specific position. > Whilst your defini

Re: save stack as filename failing most of the time

On 1/4/17 4:37 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: "the sub stacksof" also reveals no substack. Is that a typo? Does "substacks of" also fail? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

Re: Not Corruption

On 1/4/17 4:46 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:18 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: You did the right thing posting here. I have a client who runs into problems all the time, so we schedule a Skype session where I can see what's going wrong. Invariably, as soon as she tells me about t

Re: 8.1.2 Offset bug fixed!

I knew there was a reason they called base 16 "hex"! Bob On Jan 4, 2017, at 15:14 , Kay C Lan mailto:lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:53 AM, Richmond Mathewson > Surely it's better to appeal to Kevin and his team as, last time I looked Jesus wasn't doing much programmi

Re: 8.1.2 Offset bug fixed!

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:53 AM, Richmond Mathewson > > Surely it's better to appeal to Kevin and his team as, last time I looked > Jesus wasn't doing much programming. > Hmmm, maybe you haven't opened a Bible in a while. In Matthew 5:37 (and others) it clearly states: "But let your communications b

Subject: Re: Subject - LiveCode - I'm not a very happy Bunny

Richmond wrote: > What this message should tell the people on the mother-ship is that they > need to shout a bit louder about the Open Source version, instead of having a > green button "buried" at the bottom of a scroll-down on the title page. +1 In fact a green button that takes you to a sit

Re: button width on different platforms

Bob Sneidar wrote: > On Jan 4, 2017, at 12:39 , Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> Are the buttons narrower or is the font larger? >> >> If the latter, try setting the font size of the stack. >> >> By default LC will use the OS default font and size, which is >> smaller on Windows than on most Linux dist

Re: Not Corruption

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:18 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > You did the right thing posting here. I have a client who runs into > problems all the time, so we schedule a Skype session where I can see > what's going wrong. Invariably, as soon as she tells me about the issue and > I'm watching her sc

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How can this be fixed? Very annoying. s q b -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org -- Forwarded message -- From: Date: Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:23 PM Subject: confirm 7bd38c96cb9f5af1feed079d3665414e9314e8a5 To: step...@barncard.com Your membership in the mailing

Re: Not Corruption

This is the case will all tech problem solving. And why I can't find my keys and my daughter can, instantly, with a smirk. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:18 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Invariably, as soon as she tells me about the issue and I'm watching her > screen, she immediately figures out the re

Re: save stack as filename failing most of the time

Now I'm seeing "put" fail to put things in the message box, which I suspect is related. And the application browser insists that there is a substack to one of my stacks that shouldn't be there. It strives saving and duplication, but when I open that stack by itself, it shows no sub stack. "the s

Re: OK, the list *really* needs to be fixed

Just got kicked again. *sigh* Despite successfully receiving a boatload of messages from the list today. On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Fair enough, except that list servers are supposed to be configured in > such a way so as to get around this. A list server *should* se

Re: Jumping cursors

Neither construction works in HC. You would have had to: put "foo" into the selectedChunk. Both work in LC, though, and it is a case where LC is more forgiving than HC. Craig -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Jumping-cursors-tp4711385p4711414.htm

Re: Not Corruption

On 1/4/17 4:05 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I feel so stupid. But I must confess I screwed up. You did the right thing posting here. I have a client who runs into problems all the time, so we schedule a Skype session where I can see what's going wrong. Invariably, as soon as she tells me about the

Not Corruption

I feel so stupid. But I must confess I screwed up. I have a login stack that when a user logs in it sets properties of the mainstack to which it belongs, like the userid, the login name, the permissions level etc. Well one of the properties it sets is... wait for it... PASSWORD!!! I was settin

Re: Jumping cursors

I have been using "the selectedText" without a backward glance extremely successfully for 6 years. Richmond. On 1/4/17 11:26 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 1/4/17 10:33 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: set the text of the selectedText to numToCodePoint(0xFF001) and it does do what it is meant to

Re: button width on different platforms

Um, well, yes: but whether the operating system that your end-user is going to play with your font the same way as your operating system plays with it is another potential pitfall. Certainly I am wondering what Windows 10 is going to do with the latest version of my Devawriter when I hive off

Re: button width on different platforms

Actually I had to do that myself because the font size in a standalone was different than the font size in the IDE. Bob S On Jan 4, 2017, at 12:39 , Richard Gaskin mailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com>> wrote: Matt Maier wrote: > I've got some buttons with text in them. On Windows (where I deve

Re: button width on different platforms

Matt Maier wrote: > I've got some buttons with text in them. On Windows (where I develop) > they look fine. On Linux the buttons are a little bit narrower so the > text is cut off. Are the buttons narrower or is the font larger? If the latter, try setting the font size of the stack. By default

Re: button width on different platforms

I did not know that! Very cool. Bob S > On Jan 4, 2017, at 13:28 , J. Landman Gay wrote: > > On 1/4/17 1:41 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: >> I was under a vague impression that you could bundle font files with >> the app (of course there may be licensing issues etc so this may not >> be viable in ev

Re: button width on different platforms

On 1/4/17 1:41 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I was under a vague impression that you could bundle font files with the app (of course there may be licensing issues etc so this may not be viable in every case). The trick at that point would be installing the fonts. You can ship the app with a font inclu

Re: Jumping cursors

On 1/4/17 10:33 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: set the text of the selectedText to numToCodePoint(0xFF001) and it does do what it is meant to do; i.e. pops character 0xFF001 at the end of the line in my text entry field, but I really want the cursor to end up after that character not in front of

Re: button width on different platforms

On 01/04/2017 01:05 PM, Matt Maier wrote: I've got some buttons with text in them. On Windows (where I develop) they look fine. On Linux the buttons are a little bit narrower so the text is cut off. Anyone handled a similar problem? Matt, I would suggest dynamically setting the width of the

Re: Contains vs is in

Please forget my last two posts, they contain wrong statements. Haven't seen that this is already implemented using the term "subsequence of elements": >From the dictionary. Target contains Needle if and only if the elements of Needle occur as a _subsequence of the elements_ of Target. So I sho

Re: 8.1.2 Offset bug fixed!

That made me laugh out loud! Richmond. On 1/4/17 9:46 pm, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Richmond Mathewson < richmondmathew...@gmail.com> wrote: Surely it's better to appeal to Kevin and his team as, last time I looked Jesus wasn't doing much programming. Actually, Jes

Re: 8.1.2 Offset bug fixed!

Ok sorry for blowing up the list I was in a panic and was hoping someone had run into my issues and had found some easy resolution. In the end I had to restore a backup copy (yes 8.0.1 corrupts stacks!) and then I had to go through the code and redo a number of code changes I had made. Now I a

Re: Contains vs is in

(LC Builder 'contains' vs 'is in') = Ali, are the following TRUE statements? 1. Every list "contains" the empty list. 2. [x] "contains" [x, x]. 3. nothing "is in" the empty list. > (Corrected in line 5 contains to "contains"): > TMHO this abstract writing of Ali's

Re: 8.1.2 Offset bug fixed!

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Richmond Mathewson < richmondmathew...@gmail.com> wrote: > Surely it's better to appeal to Kevin and his team as, last time I looked > Jesus wasn't doing much programming. Actually, Jesus & Satan had a well-known computing contest to resolve a dispute. The Devil

Re: button width on different platforms

I was under a vague impression that you could bundle font files with the app (of course there may be licensing issues etc so this may not be viable in every case). The trick at that point would be installing the fonts. On linux and mac, I think this can be done via command line. Not sure about W

Re: 8.1.2 Offset bug fixed!

If you accept the premise of Westworld, then bugs are important. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > The password protecting issue was version 8.0.1. I need to be running > 8.0.2. For some reason 8.0.2 was not on my dock. I'm trying to track down > all the other issues before fi

Re: Contains vs is in

(LC Builder 'contains' vs 'is in') = TMHO this abstract writing of Ali's examples is easy to remember, the different "level" of the comparison is visible by the brackets. x "is in" A if and only if A "contains" [x]. (x "is in" A and y "is in" A) if and only if A con

button width on different platforms

I've got some buttons with text in them. On Windows (where I develop) they look fine. On Linux the buttons are a little bit narrower so the text is cut off. Anyone handled a similar problem? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Ple

Re: button width on different platforms

Yes; many, many times: this is even, potentially a problem on a single platform as you have no idea as to what fonts someone has installed in their system. I gave up using real buttons about 12 years ago just because I was deploying stuff across Windows, Macintosh and Linux. What I do, instea

Re: 8.1.2 Offset bug fixed!

The password protecting issue was version 8.0.1. I need to be running 8.0.2. For some reason 8.0.2 was not on my dock. I'm trying to track down all the other issues before filing a bug report if necessary. It's hard to track down as the debugger will hit a line and then skip over a bunch of line

Re: 8.1.2 Offset bug fixed!

Not so sure about that. Remember he is the mastermind behind everything. I take everything to also mean bugs. :-) Tore > 4. jan. 2017 kl. 19.57 skrev Bob Sneidar >: > > There wouldn't be any bugs id He did. :-) _

Re: 8.1.2 Offset bug fixed!

There wouldn't be any bugs id He did. :-) Bob S On Jan 4, 2017, at 10:53 , Richmond Mathewson mailto:richmondmathew...@gmail.com>> wrote: Surely it's better to appeal to Kevin and his team as, last time I looked Jesus wasn't doing much programming. Richmond.

Re: 8.1.2 Offset bug fixed!

On 1/4/17 8:46 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote: I think it's time to open a bug report and send the stack to the team. It sounds like file corruption to me. Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On January 4

Re: 8.1.2 Offset bug fixed!

I think it's time to open a bug report and send the stack to the team. It sounds like file corruption to me. Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On January 4, 2017 11:37:00 AM Bob Sneidar wrote: Now

Re: Foundation Framework

LC could definitely be extended to do anything. But the team has limited resources and chooses new features carefully depending on a number of factors, and one person's need may not be enough to justify the work. In the spirit of OSS, we now have a way to implement those extensions ourselves.

Re: standalone settings .zip

That'd be nice – but if it's possible it's news to me. I've use a third-party zip tool to avoid including Mac-specific ghost files in zip archives for Windows users. :-/ k On 4 Jan 2017, at 17:45, Matt Maier wrote: I haven't actually build a standalone in many months, so perhaps my memory i

standalone settings .zip

I haven't actually build a standalone in many months, so perhaps my memory is fooling me. Did Livecode used to automatically create .zip files for each of the platforms? I'm using Indy 8.1.1 at the moment. It's not creating separate .zip copies and there's no option for that in the standalone set

Re: 8.1.2 Offset bug fixed!

Now the IDE is randomly password protecting my scripts. Jesus. Bob S > On Jan 4, 2017, at 08:25 , Bob Sneidar wrote: > > Apparently it's far, far worse than I thought. Now every time I open my > stack, it hits the line where I start using stack libSqlYoga in a try catch > loop. It skips ove

Jumping cursors

Hey-Ho: more fun with my endless Devawriter Pro (Grantha Samyuktaksharas for those who care about that sort of thing). So, I have a line of code that says this: set the text of the selectedText to numToCodePoint(0xFF001) and it does do what it is meant to do; i.e. pops character 0xFF001 at th

Re: 8.1.2 Offset bug fixed!

Apparently it's far, far worse than I thought. Now every time I open my stack, it hits the line where I start using stack libSqlYoga in a try catch loop. It skips over the try catch loop, not even generating an error. Opening my stack/libSQLYoga in 8.1.2 has completely borked my app. I've rest

Re: Subject - LiveCode - I'm not a very happy Bunny

On 4 Jan 2017, at 14:11, Richmond Mathewson wrote: What this message should tell the people on the mother-ship is that they need to shout a bit louder about the Open Source version Amen! The FOSS, Community edition is a great thing, and it's It'd also be great if the mother ship would also c

Re: Contains vs is in

As an example, consider a list ["a", "b", "c"]. "a" is in the list. But the list ["a", "b"] is *not* in the list, as it is not an element of the list - all the elements of the list are strings, and ["a", "b"] is a list. However, ["a", "b", "c"] *does* contain ["a", "b"] as the latter occurs as a 's

Re: Subject - LiveCode - I'm not a very happy Bunny

What this message should tell the people on the mother-ship is that they need to shout a bit louder about the Open Source version, instead of having a green button "buried" at the bottom of a scroll-down on the title page. Richmond. On 1/4/17 2:32 pm, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beaut

LiveCode language package for SublimeText 3

I've added a LiveCode language package for SublimeText 3 to packagecontrol.io (the package manager for SublimeText). https://packagecontrol.io/packages/LiveCode https://github.com/trevordevore/livecode-sublimetext -- Trevor DeVore ScreenSteps www.screensteps.com-www.clarify-it.com _

Re: Contains vs is in

WHAT? There is some subtlety that I am missing, Ali. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:22 AM, Ali Lloyd wrote: > Peter has pointed out that I am technically using the word 'subsequence' in > error, and should probably have used 'substring' instead! > (cf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsequence vs > htt

Re: Subject - LiveCode - I'm not a very happy Bunny

Look here https://livecode.org for more information about the open source version of LC. Regards, Matthias > Am 04.01.2017 um 13:32 schrieb Francis Nugent Dixon >: > > Hi from Beautiful Brittany, > > I am obviously in a physical and technol

Re: Subject - LiveCode - I'm not a very happy Bunny

Livecode community is what you're looking for. Go to downloads.livecode.com On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:32 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: > Hi from Beautiful Brittany, > > I am obviously in a physical and technological backwater. > > With my 4 Macs, I spend happy 8 hours a day - every day of the w

Subject - LiveCode - I'm not a very happy Bunny

Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I am obviously in a physical and technological backwater. With my 4 Macs, I spend happy 8 hours a day - every day of the week. I run Mac OS 10.9 (can’t see why I should keep updating to later versions) With LiveCode, ’tis the same - I’m on 5.5.4, happy as a pig in shi

Re: Contains vs is in

Peter has pointed out that I am technically using the word 'subsequence' in error, and should probably have used 'substring' instead! (cf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsequence vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substring) On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:16 AM Ali Lloyd wrote: > 'contains' and 'is in

Re: Contains vs is in

'contains' and 'is in' are implemented exactly the same in LiveCode Script, so there shouldn't be any difference. However there is an interesting subtlety that emerges when you consider what these two bits of syntax should do, which explains why they are different in LCB. When we say 'A contains B

Re: Foundation Framework

Thank you for a very clear explanation which improved the taste of my breakfast no end. Although . . . it still doesn't quite explain why we need LCB to do some "heavy lifting": why can LC not be extended to encompass that? Richmond. On 1/3/17 11:40 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 1/3/17 1:54