Re: Teaching LiveCode to Children

2014-10-16 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob- Thursday, October 16, 2014, 8:17:27 AM, you wrote: > What’s wrong with the old way of thinking?? ;-) You mean as opposed to thwimming? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC_iWnt0ooA -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the Natio

Re: LiveCode 6.6.4

2014-10-16 Thread Paul Hibbert
Ralph, I've re-opened bug 13590 [ http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13590 ] to try to get this location services issue resolved. Please feel free to add more to it if you have any comments or if you feel I've missed anything. Paul On Oct 16, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: > Mi

RE: LiveCode 6.6.4

2014-10-16 Thread Ralph DiMola
Get timeouts and eventually get "can't start" message. If I hit the home button on the simulator it will hang for 30-5 seconds and then show the home screen. 33% of the time the app will just start up. 33% it will be on the simulator and I can start it. 33% it will work if I "test" again. Can't pu

Re: LiveCode 6.6.4

2014-10-16 Thread Gerry
> When I get the simulator message, I go to the simulator, make sure there > isn't an instance of the app already running, and if there is, exit it, > then go back, and fire it off, again, from LC. You get the same error message I do? g ___ use-liv

Re: handling push notifications

2014-10-16 Thread Terry Judd
Thanks Mike - makes sense for the app to check in with the server when it starts up so I guess I'll go down that route. Terry... Sent from my iPhone On 17/10/2014, at 1:12 PM, "Mike Kerner" wrote: > Try it. That's my observation. So, what I do, instead, is instead of > sending the payload (

Re: LiveCode 6.6.4

2014-10-16 Thread Mike Kerner
When I get the simulator message, I go to the simulator, make sure there isn't an instance of the app already running, and if there is, exit it, then go back, and fire it off, again, from LC. I suspect we have a communication problem between LC and the simulator. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:30 PM,

Re: handling push notifications

2014-10-16 Thread Mike Kerner
Try it. That's my observation. So, what I do, instead, is instead of sending the payload (which has to be short, anyhow), is have the app recognize that it's gotten a push notification, then hit my server to find out why. The message you send is for the user, anyway. The payload has to be small

Re: handling push notifications

2014-10-16 Thread Gerry
Terry wrote: > That"s disappointing Really? I'm just resigned to the fact that LC doesn't allow us to develop modern iOS apps that have the same capabilities (in terms of background operations) as xCode-developed apps. I've stopped trying and I've stopped being disappointed about it. What I'd

Re: handling push notifications

2014-10-16 Thread Terry Judd
That¹s disappointing. Just to get this straight, the only time I get the payload is if the app is open - either when the notification arrives or if I select it from the Œlist¹ available when swiping down from the top of the screen. If the app isn¹t open then no payload via any method. Terry... On

Re: LiveCode 6.6.4

2014-10-16 Thread Gerry
Yup. g > On 17 Oct 2014, at 12:28 pm, Colin Holgate wrote: > > I have the reverse situation, where I couldn’t before but now I can. Are you > using Xcode 6.0.1? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to s

LiveCode and Yosemite

2014-10-16 Thread Colin Holgate
I updated from Mavericks to Yosemite today, and LiveCode 6.6.4 contuse to test onto Simulator ok. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http:

Re: LiveCode 6.6.4

2014-10-16 Thread Colin Holgate
I have the reverse situation, where I couldn’t before but now I can. Are you using Xcode 6.0.1? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http

Re: LiveCode 6.6.4

2014-10-16 Thread Gerry
And another one: I changed nothing between the RC 2 version and the release version and I can't now run my apps in the simulator - I get a message that says "Unable to start simulation: Unable to run app in simulator". Ugh. Gerry > On 17 Oct 2014, at 7:28 am, Mike Kerner wrote: > > I was su

Re: handling push notifications

2014-10-16 Thread Mike Kerner
you don't. There are several open bug reports on push, and that's one of them. If the app isn't running and the user opens it via the springboard, no payload. If they open it via the notification center, payload. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Terry Judd wrote: > Just starting with push not

Re: 3 questions about your coding habits

2014-10-16 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard Gaskin writes: > 1. When you're working on stack files, do you always keep them somewhere > in your Home folder, or run with admin privileges and keep them > somewhere else (e.g. Applications)? Assuming you mean stackfiles rather than stacks, I try to keep them in the same folder as th

Re: 3 questions about your coding habits

2014-10-16 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard Gaskin writes: > What do you use for auto-saving? Assuming this is an open-ended question, 1. glx2 has auto-saving built in 2. Dropbox saves versions for up to 30 days. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Can you please enlighten me on the LiveCode versions?

2014-10-16 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Richard Gaskin wrote > rsync is licensed under GPL 3.0, so RunRev could only integrated its > code into the Community Edition. > > But moreover, rsync is freely available to anyone, and is most commonly > used through the command line (its pre-installed on Ubuntu and most > Linux distros, it's

Re: Enhancing the volumes function (was Volume Size)

2014-10-16 Thread JB
I would like the proper info about the volume path, size in bytes, available space in bytes and amount of bytes used along with the type of drive etc and if it is mounted so I can sector read and write to the volume. I have no intention of creating a program for people to sector read and write fil

handling push notifications

2014-10-16 Thread Terry Judd
Just starting with push notifications and have managed to get a simple example working using the livecode example code and AWS’s SNS service. So far so good! Now, in the livecode example it an ‘alert’ and a ‘payload’ are sent. The payload is received if the app is open and the alert is displayed

binaryDecode in LC 7.0(rc2) and EXIFLib

2014-10-16 Thread Jacques Hausser
To the people using Alex Tweedly's EXIFLib: For the others, EXIFLib is a very useful library extracting the EXIF data (if any) of .jpg pictures. I'm really indebted to Alex for it and I'm using it for years now. It can be found here: http://tweedly.org/showpage.lc?page=EXIFLib This library works

Re: Can you please enlighten me on the LiveCode versions?

2014-10-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alejandro Tejada wrote: > rsync! Thanks for reminding me this topic. I knew that something > was missing when I tested LiveCode Server on Linux and Windows > (using XAMPP) > > http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13701 rsync is licensed under GPL 3.0, so RunRev could only integrated its cod

Re: Volume Size

2014-10-16 Thread JB
Thanks, Bob! So it walks like a duck and quacks likea duck but if you say unix to linux people it is time to duck. NBG! sorry Richmond I did not know. John Balgenorth On Oct 16, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > In a word, no. Linux is the result of someone writing a unix-like OS witho

Re: Can you please enlighten me on the LiveCode versions?

2014-10-16 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Richard Gaskin wrote > Yeah, too many late nights this week, thankfully punctuated with rounds > of rsync backups so I can take time to post. rsync! Thanks for reminding me this topic. I knew that something was missing when I tested LiveCode Server on Linux and Windows (using XAMPP) http://quali

Re: Programming LiveCode with LiveCode

2014-10-16 Thread Bob Sneidar
That sounds like what Sun said when they released Java! And look what happened. Bob S On Oct 16, 2014, at 10:32 , Jim Lambert mailto:j...@netrin.com>> wrote: I am of the opinion that all of the platform/device specific approach to software is going the way of the dinosaur. ___

Re: LiveCode 6.6.4

2014-10-16 Thread Mike Kerner
I was surprised that they threw this out as a finished version, since every RC so far has had issues that we've been finding as we go. This one has at least two, then. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: > Mike, > > Yes they do seem slower. It gets worse though. If you cancel t

RE: LiveCode 6.6.4

2014-10-16 Thread Ralph DiMola
Mike, Yes they do seem slower. It gets worse though. If you cancel the dialog and allow your app to continue the keyboard is invisible for both LC and native input fields. Bug report==> http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13699 I could check the permissions and kick the user out until they

Re: Volume Size

2014-10-16 Thread Bob Sneidar
I was making a vague reference to the lawsuit that ensued when Linux was first becoming popular. Bob S On Oct 16, 2014, at 09:19 , Richard Gaskin mailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com>> wrote: On the contrary, the reason Linux was invented was a desire to enjoy what Unix brings to the table, but

Re: LiveCode 6.6.4

2014-10-16 Thread Mike Kerner
Do your apps seem slower in this version, anybody, or is that just an ios8 thing? Some of my screen transitions in this version seem downright pokey. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: > +1 for the Mother ship on the rapid 6.6.4 fixes. > > I have one thing I can't understand.

Re: Can you please enlighten me on the LiveCode versions?

2014-10-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alejandro Tejada wrote: By the way, When are you going to share your secrets for time management? Looks like your working days have 36 or 48 hours... :-D Yeah, too many late nights this week, thankfully punctuated with rounds of rsync backups so I can take time to post. But if I were really

Re: Can you please enlighten me on the LiveCode versions?

2014-10-16 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Richard Gaskin wrote > Heather doesn't normally monitor this list, but your questions are > similar to ones raised in my local LC user group and elsewhere, so let > me don my Community Manager cap and see if I can help answer them: > [snip] Your answer was really useful, Richard! Many, many than

Re: Programming LiveCode with LiveCode

2014-10-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jim Lambert wrote: > Larry wrote: > >> I am of the opinion that all of the platform/device specific >> approach to software is going the way of the dinosaur. > > That may be true with desktop software, but I respectfully disagree > when it comes to mobile. > > There’s ever-growing fragmentation o

Re: LiveCode scripts on Rosseta Code

2014-10-16 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/15/2014, 10:25 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi All, After reading in Rosetta Code's website, about tasks not implemented in LiveCode, I am sure that many of you have published scripts that implement these task using LiveCode: http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Reports:Tasks_not_implemented_in_Liv

Re: Extend compress function

2014-10-16 Thread Alejandro Tejada
I just noticed that Mark Waddingham wrote in 2011: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9553 --- [snip] Of course, this does suggest several potential improvements... Add 'command' forms of compress and base64decode which wo

Extend compress function

2014-10-16 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi All, On December 13 of 2012, Jan Schenkel - http://www.quartam.com wrote on Livecode Quality Center: Currently the compress/decompress function pair only supports 'gzip' compression as defined in

Re: 3 questions about your coding habits

2014-10-16 Thread Richmond
On 16/10/14 06:22, Richard Gaskin wrote: 1. When you're working on stack files, do you always keep them somewhere in your Home folder, or run with admin privileges and keep them somewhere else (e.g. Applications)? I keep all my stacks in a folder called 'xCode' and its subfolders, on the desk

Re: Programming LiveCode with LiveCode

2014-10-16 Thread larry
Hi Jim, I'm not trying to argue (don't know enough.) But what you say below (I put in italics) seems only to underscore what I believe: that it will be easier to deal with those differences by just developing apps that run within a browser. Because don't both Android and iOS both run browsers?

RE: LiveCode 6.6.4

2014-10-16 Thread Ralph DiMola
+1 for the Mother ship on the rapid 6.6.4 fixes. I have one thing I can't understand. When the Privacy==>Location Services for my app is set to "While Using the App" A dialog pops up every time the app is launched with this dialog: Background location is not enabled To use background location yo

Re: Programming LiveCode with LiveCode

2014-10-16 Thread Jim Lambert
Larry wrote: > I am of the opinion that all of the platform/device specific approach to > software is going the way of the dinosaur. That may be true with desktop software, but I respectfully disagree when it comes to mobile. There’s ever-growing fragmentation on Android, sometimes the develo

Re: Can you please enlighten me on the LiveCode versions?

2014-10-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Heather doesn't normally monitor this list, but your questions are similar to ones raised in my local LC user group and elsewhere, so let me don my Community Manager cap and see if I can help answer them: MCLAWHORN, TONY wrote: > Heather > > I've been searching for some answers but have not fo

Re: LiveCode 6.6.4

2014-10-16 Thread Colin Holgate
I tried iPhone and iPad, 7.1 and 8.0, and apart from one time when there was an error dialog it worked fine, and gave me the right device. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and man

Re: LiveCode 6.6.4

2014-10-16 Thread Dave Kilroy
Hmm, in the new 6.6.4 my iOS simulator always defaults to iPhone 4s (in which my apps appear to run fine except for the fact no keyboard appears when focusing on a native field ) - but if I choose iPhone 5 or above there is no sign of my app, the only iPhone simulator my apps appear in is the 4s T

Re: Can you please enlighten me on the LiveCode versions?

2014-10-16 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Tony, Go to http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ and scroll down to 6.6.4. Find the STABLE release and download that. This is what you can use for production work. Sometimes, you need new features that aren't available in 6.6.4 yet. You might download an RC of a later version and try i

Re: 3 questions about your coding habits

2014-10-16 Thread Peter Haworth
I forgot to mention in my reply that I use my lcStackBrowser plugin's Checkpoint feature for auto saves. It allows me to save at specific intervals or on request and I can assign a description to each checkpoint. The checkpoints are kept in a zip file in the same folder as the stack file and I can

Can you please enlighten me on the LiveCode versions?

2014-10-16 Thread MCLAWHORN, TONY
Heather I've been searching for some answers but have not found any yet. The question is which version of LiveCode should I be using? LiveCode 6.6.4 (rc1) was just announced... what about LiveCode 7.0 (rc2)? I'm just confused as to why LiveCode is putting effort into what seems to me to be t

Re: Volume Size

2014-10-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: >> On Oct 14, 2014, at 20:37 , JB wrote: >> >> The dictionary states, >> This function always returns empty on Unix systems. >> >> So, is Linux a Unix OS? > > In a word, no. Linux is the result of someone writing a unix-like > OS without (ostensibly) copying any of the actual U

Re: 3 questions about your coding habits

2014-10-16 Thread Bob Sneidar
Love it. Bob S On Oct 16, 2014, at 09:14 , Mark Talluto mailto:use...@canelasoftware.com>> wrote: Chronosyc is a Mac backup software (free updates for life). ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscr

Re: 3 questions about your coding habits

2014-10-16 Thread Mark Talluto
On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:22 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > 1. When you're working on stack files, do you always keep them somewhere in > your Home folder, or run with admin privileges and keep them somewhere else > (e.g. Applications)? Most of my development is done on a MacBook Pro with initial tes

Re: LiveCode 6.6.4

2014-10-16 Thread Colin Holgate
Testing to iPad 8.0 Simulator is working again. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

RE: 3 questions about your coding habits

2014-10-16 Thread Ralph DiMola
1. I keep stacks on the server. 2. My main dev platform is Windows. 3. I create Android apps on Windows. 4. I do text/DB/other processing on Windows using stacks/files on server. 5. I use the Mac for: A. Build iOS apps. B. iOS simulator. C. Move apps to physical Apple

Re: LiveCode 6.6.4

2014-10-16 Thread Mark Talluto
Thanks to all the RunRev team for keeping this stable build going while working on the 6.7 and 7 tracks at the same time! Having access to 6.4 for shipping apps is fantastic. Best regards, Mark Talluto livecloud.io canelasoftware.com On Oct 16, 2014, at 8:25 AM, Benjamin Beaumont wrote:

Re: 3 questions about your coding habits

2014-10-16 Thread Peter Haworth
I have a folder on Google Drive for all my Livecode files. That folder includes the following folder structure for each of my projects: Source Files Documentation Resources Utilities (e.g. my production build stack, installer stack, Zygodact key generator stack) User Files (files sent to me to re

Re: 3 questions about your coding habits

2014-10-16 Thread Bob Sneidar
I have a Livecode Projects folder in my documents folder. Each project has it’s own folder. When I start up I set the defaultFolder to the stack path so that everything I need for that project is relative to that path. I switch between Windows and OS X when developing multi platform apps. I use

LiveCode 6.6.4

2014-10-16 Thread Benjamin Beaumont
Dear list members, We're please the announce the release of LiveCode 6.6.4. This is a stable release and addresses issues with LiveCode applications not running correctly on iOS 8 devices. We recommend that LiveCode developers creating apps for iOS install xCode 6.0.1. Release Contents For a fu

Re: Volume Size

2014-10-16 Thread Bob Sneidar
In a word, no. Linux is the result of someone writing a unix-like OS without (ostensibly) copying any of the actual UNIX code. It walks like UNIX, it quacks like UNIX, but it is decidedly *NOT* UNIX! Never say those words again!!! (It makes LINUX people queasy). ;-) Bob S On Oct 14, 2014, at

Re: Teaching LiveCode to Children

2014-10-16 Thread Bob Sneidar
What’s wrong with the old way of thinking?? ;-) Bob S On Oct 14, 2014, at 17:57 , Alejandro Tejada mailto:capellan2...@gmail.com>> wrote: I wholeheartedly believe that teaching LiveCode to these children will creatively and effectively help them develop a new way to think and thrive.

Re: Enhancing the volumes function (was Volume Size)

2014-10-16 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 10/16/2014 10:24 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > The other day I wrote: > > > Warren Samples wrote: > > > The dictionary does indicated, by omission of the penguin icon, > > > that 'volumes()' is not supported under Linux. > > > > Seems a silly omission, so I just submitted a request for that: > > <

Re: 3 questions about your coding habits

2014-10-16 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, Customers often have special requirements, which ask for a special set-up. Sometimes, I use a dedicated computer and sometimes I use an emulator. I use the OS the customer asks me to use, although I might use a slightly older or newer version. Everything depends on the project and the cus

Re: 3 questions about your coding habits

2014-10-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
AndyP wrote: Each of the project folders have the following subs. RawAssets Assets Source AutoSaved Compiled Installer Docs Nice structure. I use a similar set of folders: admin assets dev docs rel versions After seeing your folder list I'm motivated to add an option for automatically cre

Enhancing the volumes function (was Volume Size)

2014-10-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
The other day I wrote: > Warren Samples wrote: > > The dictionary does indicated, by omission of the penguin icon, > > that 'volumes()' is not supported under Linux. > > Seems a silly omission, so I just submitted a request for that: > That reque

Re: problem with counting words

2014-10-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dick Kriesel wrote: On Oct 14, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: on mouseUp put 1000 into n put "aaa,bbb,ccc#ddd#eee#fff,ggg,hhh" into tSomeData -- put the millisecs into t repeat n get nDepth(tSomeData, 3, comma, 2, "#" ) end repeat put the millisecs - t into t1 pu

Re: 3 questions about your coding habits

2014-10-16 Thread AndyP
Windows User Everything is in a DropBox folder I have a projects directory and each project gets its own project sub folder. Each of the project folders have the following subs. RawAssets Assets Source AutoSaved Compiled Installer Docs The root project folder is auto copied to a Cloud folder a

Re: 3 questions about your coding habits

2014-10-16 Thread Kay C Lan
1. Burried deep deep within the Documents folder. 3 levels down I have a 'my stacks' folder and in there each project has it's own folder, usually because there is hodge podge of ancilliary files; some required by the stack, i.e. SQLite file or folder full of images, but also files not required by

AW: 3 questions about your coding habits

2014-10-16 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
1. I keep them on our server 2. My main dev platform is Windows, where I am using the files on our server. For finishing I take a copy over to my Mac. I don't trust Apple to handle my files on a windows server correctly AND up to today, runrev destroys the standalone setting of each stack, if you a

Re: problem with counting words

2014-10-16 Thread Dick Kriesel
On Oct 14, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > on mouseUp > put 1000 into n > put "aaa,bbb,ccc#ddd#eee#fff,ggg,hhh" into tSomeData > -- > put the millisecs into t > repeat n > get nDepth(tSomeData, 3, comma, 2, "#" ) > end repeat > put the millisecs - t into t1 > put

Re: problem with counting words

2014-10-16 Thread Kay C Lan
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > > a=1,b=2,c=3 > > That's pretty basic and is easily handled by: replace comma with cr Then just work through the lines and the itemDelimiter to =. What I was thinking about was: "A","B","C","D" etc and being able to specify the chunkDe